Does the vitamin E speed up the cat's heat?

[Sip]

My husband said that they give at farms extra vitamin E for cows and
pigs so they'll get in heat earlier than they normally would. He said
that it could be happen to cats as well. I'm breeding my cat soon and
waiting her to get in heat. She's in heat 4 times a year. I have male
cat already here waiting and he's under the castration threat. Does
anyone has knowledge about this e-vitamin? If it works with cats, how
much can I safely give to my female cat?
Husband said that cows came in heat in a week when they got vitamin E.
Any other hints how my cat gets in heat earlier than she normally
does?

Sip

[*~*SooZy*~*]

"Sip" > wrote in message
om...
> My husband said that they give at farms extra vitamin E for cows and
> pigs so they'll get in heat earlier than they normally would. He said
> that it could be happen to cats as well. I'm breeding my cat soon and
> waiting her to get in heat. She's in heat 4 times a year. I have male
> cat already here waiting and he's under the castration threat. Does
> anyone has knowledge about this e-vitamin? If it works with cats, how
> much can I safely give to my female cat?
> Husband said that cows came in heat in a week when they got vitamin E.
> Any other hints how my cat gets in heat earlier than she normally
> does?
>
> Sip

asking a question like that proves you should not be breeding the cats!
please just get them both neutered!

[*~*SooZy*~*]

"Sip" > wrote in message
om...
> My husband said that they give at farms extra vitamin E for cows and
> pigs so they'll get in heat earlier than they normally would. He said
> that it could be happen to cats as well. I'm breeding my cat soon and
> waiting her to get in heat. She's in heat 4 times a year. I have male
> cat already here waiting and he's under the castration threat. Does
> anyone has knowledge about this e-vitamin? If it works with cats, how
> much can I safely give to my female cat?
> Husband said that cows came in heat in a week when they got vitamin E.
> Any other hints how my cat gets in heat earlier than she normally
> does?
>
> Sip

asking a question like that proves you should not be breeding the cats!
please just get them both neutered!

[kaeli]

In article >, sippe1
@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
> My husband said that they give at farms extra vitamin E for cows and
> pigs so they'll get in heat earlier than they normally would. He said
> that it could be happen to cats as well. I'm breeding my cat soon and
> waiting her to get in heat. She's in heat 4 times a year. I have male
> cat already here waiting and he's under the castration threat. Does
> anyone has knowledge about this e-vitamin? If it works with cats, how
> much can I safely give to my female cat?
> Husband said that cows came in heat in a week when they got vitamin E.
> Any other hints how my cat gets in heat earlier than she normally
> does?
>
>

If you were a professional, responsible breeder looking to produce
wonderfully healthy, sound, standard kittens, you would have a whole
breed club and several vets to ask this question of.

Since you do not seem to have that, skip breeding her and get her
spayed. There are enough unwanted cats in this world. You might want to
castrate the tom, too.

Yes, too much Vitamin E can be dangerous, just like anything else. We
eat cows and pigs. I doubt birth defects are an issue for livestock
animals. They are an issue for professional breeders who care about
their breed.

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[kaeli]

In article >, sippe1
@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
> My husband said that they give at farms extra vitamin E for cows and
> pigs so they'll get in heat earlier than they normally would. He said
> that it could be happen to cats as well. I'm breeding my cat soon and
> waiting her to get in heat. She's in heat 4 times a year. I have male
> cat already here waiting and he's under the castration threat. Does
> anyone has knowledge about this e-vitamin? If it works with cats, how
> much can I safely give to my female cat?
> Husband said that cows came in heat in a week when they got vitamin E.
> Any other hints how my cat gets in heat earlier than she normally
> does?
>
>

If you were a professional, responsible breeder looking to produce
wonderfully healthy, sound, standard kittens, you would have a whole
breed club and several vets to ask this question of.

Since you do not seem to have that, skip breeding her and get her
spayed. There are enough unwanted cats in this world. You might want to
castrate the tom, too.

Yes, too much Vitamin E can be dangerous, just like anything else. We
eat cows and pigs. I doubt birth defects are an issue for livestock
animals. They are an issue for professional breeders who care about
their breed.

-------------------------------------------------
~kaeli~
Black holes were created when God divided by 0.
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion
that life is serious.
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-------------------------------------------------

[Arjun Ray]

In >, kaeli
> wrote:

| Yes, too much Vitamin E can be dangerous, just like anything else.

To be more specific, Vitamins A, D and E are fat-soluble, and thus will
accumulate in the body, even up to toxic levels. It's much harder to
overdose on Vitamins B and C, which are water-soluble and thus get
flushed out regularly (and by the same token, can also get depleted and
need to be supplemented.)

| We eat cows and pigs. I doubt birth defects are an issue for livestock
| animals. They are an issue for professional breeders who care about
| their breed.

Professional = in it for the money?

[Arjun Ray]

In >, kaeli
> wrote:

| Yes, too much Vitamin E can be dangerous, just like anything else.

To be more specific, Vitamins A, D and E are fat-soluble, and thus will
accumulate in the body, even up to toxic levels. It's much harder to
overdose on Vitamins B and C, which are water-soluble and thus get
flushed out regularly (and by the same token, can also get depleted and
need to be supplemented.)

| We eat cows and pigs. I doubt birth defects are an issue for livestock
| animals. They are an issue for professional breeders who care about
| their breed.

Professional = in it for the money?

[Yngver]

(Sip) wrote:

>Any other hints how my cat gets in heat earlier than she normally
>does?

As most others here have said, if you don't know what you are doing, you should
not be breeding cats. What do you intend to do with the kittens?

[Yngver]

(Sip) wrote:

>Any other hints how my cat gets in heat earlier than she normally
>does?

As most others here have said, if you don't know what you are doing, you should
not be breeding cats. What do you intend to do with the kittens?

[kaeli]

In article >,
enlightened us with...
>
> | We eat cows and pigs. I doubt birth defects are an issue for livestock
> | animals. They are an issue for professional breeders who care about
> | their breed.
>
> Professional = in it for the money?
>
>

Not in my opinion. In my opinion,

professional=spends more than earns, shows their animal, belongs to
breed clubs, and strives to improve the breed (including selective
breeding, screening for genetic disorders, neuter contracts on pet
quality animals, etc). They don't breed their females more than is
healthy, about once a year at most. They don't breed their female during
her first heat or while she's too immature to properly bear and nourish
young. They don't wean the young too early and they socialize them and
rear them in a home environment. They breed for both conformation and
temperament, as well as for the absence of genetic disorders.

A professional breeder spends more than they earn, between taking care
of all the animals, having them tested, vaccinated, fed quality food,
groomed, exercised, etc. They spend even more if they do the show
circuit frequently.

Backyard breeder or miller=in it for the money.

Idiot=I let my pet have a litter so my kid could see the miracle of
birth.

Dumbass=Neuter? What's that?

I have no problems with professional breeders. They are few and far
between compared to all the people who let their pets breed (see your
local newspaper), the BB, and the millers who sell to pet stores, etc.

-------------------------------------------------
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Not one shred of evidence supports the notion
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-------------------------------------------------

[kaeli]

In article >,
enlightened us with...
>
> | We eat cows and pigs. I doubt birth defects are an issue for livestock
> | animals. They are an issue for professional breeders who care about
> | their breed.
>
> Professional = in it for the money?
>
>

Not in my opinion. In my opinion,

professional=spends more than earns, shows their animal, belongs to
breed clubs, and strives to improve the breed (including selective
breeding, screening for genetic disorders, neuter contracts on pet
quality animals, etc). They don't breed their females more than is
healthy, about once a year at most. They don't breed their female during
her first heat or while she's too immature to properly bear and nourish
young. They don't wean the young too early and they socialize them and
rear them in a home environment. They breed for both conformation and
temperament, as well as for the absence of genetic disorders.

A professional breeder spends more than they earn, between taking care
of all the animals, having them tested, vaccinated, fed quality food,
groomed, exercised, etc. They spend even more if they do the show
circuit frequently.

Backyard breeder or miller=in it for the money.

Idiot=I let my pet have a litter so my kid could see the miracle of
birth.

Dumbass=Neuter? What's that?

I have no problems with professional breeders. They are few and far
between compared to all the people who let their pets breed (see your
local newspaper), the BB, and the millers who sell to pet stores, etc.

-------------------------------------------------
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Black holes were created when God divided by 0.
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion
that life is serious.
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-------------------------------------------------

[Sip]

To all of you who answered to my question.Thank's for nothing.It's no
need to attack towards me when you don't know the bagrounds.Where I'm
living it's almost impossible to go to vet and just ask things and
even more impossible to call them cause they are always doing
homevisits when I try to reach them,I need to travel 50km's to get to
vet for even vacinations and for vacination I need to start trying
contact vet 1 month before I have planned to get the vacination. Other
breeders I've contacted with this issue were also curious cause they
have never heard about it before and they asked me to write this board
and ask that maybe I can get answer. I'm sorry that you have selters
full of unwanted cats but never I'm going to travel thousands miles
and pic a cat from your shelters. Unwanted cats are problem but not so
big problem in my country as in yours.And there's always going to be
people who are willing to buy purereed cats as well.So far I've
managed to find good homes for my kittens and I do occasionally visit
them.I don't inform the owner when I'm coming to visit them.My cats
are healthy and vacinated and I take good care of them.You can have
your narrowsighted opinions for yourself and have your catproblems,I
don't have problems with cats.This discussion from my part is over.
Sip

[Sip]

To all of you who answered to my question.Thank's for nothing.It's no
need to attack towards me when you don't know the bagrounds.Where I'm
living it's almost impossible to go to vet and just ask things and
even more impossible to call them cause they are always doing
homevisits when I try to reach them,I need to travel 50km's to get to
vet for even vacinations and for vacination I need to start trying
contact vet 1 month before I have planned to get the vacination. Other
breeders I've contacted with this issue were also curious cause they
have never heard about it before and they asked me to write this board
and ask that maybe I can get answer. I'm sorry that you have selters
full of unwanted cats but never I'm going to travel thousands miles
and pic a cat from your shelters. Unwanted cats are problem but not so
big problem in my country as in yours.And there's always going to be
people who are willing to buy purereed cats as well.So far I've
managed to find good homes for my kittens and I do occasionally visit
them.I don't inform the owner when I'm coming to visit them.My cats
are healthy and vacinated and I take good care of them.You can have
your narrowsighted opinions for yourself and have your catproblems,I
don't have problems with cats.This discussion from my part is over.
Sip

[*~*SooZy*~*]

"Sip" > wrote in message
om...
> To all of you who answered to my question.Thank's for nothing.It's no
> need to attack towards me when you don't know the bagrounds.

Where I am

>living it's almost impossible to go to vet and just ask things and
> even more impossible to call them cause they are always doing
> homevisits when I try to reach them,
<cut>

that's another good reason not to breed kittens! supposing the queen gets
into difficulties while given birth and maybe needs a cesarian section? she
could die!!!!! if you love your cat how could you possible put her though
so much risk!

> Sip

[*~*SooZy*~*]

"Sip" > wrote in message
om...
> To all of you who answered to my question.Thank's for nothing.It's no
> need to attack towards me when you don't know the bagrounds.

Where I am

>living it's almost impossible to go to vet and just ask things and
> even more impossible to call them cause they are always doing
> homevisits when I try to reach them,
<cut>

that's another good reason not to breed kittens! supposing the queen gets
into difficulties while given birth and maybe needs a cesarian section? she
could die!!!!! if you love your cat how could you possible put her though
so much risk!

> Sip

[kaeli]

In article >, sippe1
@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
> To all of you who answered to my question.Thank's for nothing.It's no
> need to attack towards me when you don't know the bagrounds.Where I'm
> living it's almost impossible to go to vet and just ask things and
> even more impossible to call them cause they are always doing
> homevisits when I try to reach them,I need to travel 50km's to get to
> vet for even vacinations and for vacination I need to start trying
> contact vet 1 month before I have planned to get the vacination. Other
> breeders I've contacted with this issue were also curious cause they
> have never heard about it before and they asked me to write this board
> and ask that maybe I can get answer. I'm sorry that you have selters
> full of unwanted cats but never I'm going to travel thousands miles
> and pic a cat from your shelters. Unwanted cats are problem but not so
> big problem in my country as in yours.And there's always going to be
> people who are willing to buy purereed cats as well.So far I've
> managed to find good homes for my kittens and I do occasionally visit
> them.I don't inform the owner when I'm coming to visit them.My cats
> are healthy and vacinated and I take good care of them.You can have
> your narrowsighted opinions for yourself and have your catproblems,I
> don't have problems with cats.This discussion from my part is over.
> Sip
>

And I had to walk 50 miles to school every morning, in the snow!!!
Barefoot!!! Uphill both ways!!!!!

Please.
Stop with the righteous indignation.

Cell phones are carried by vets and doctors who do home visits. Even if
there are no cell towers, I can't imagine people with no phones at all
to reach the vet. If there are no phones, how did you get online on the
computer?
And if the vets do home visits, why would you have to travel 50km (31
miles) to see them? BTW, 31 miles is not a big deal to me. I work 35
miles (56km) from my home. I drive there and back every weekday. So
don't try to tell me it's some big trek for you.

And just because people are willing to buy your purebred cats is
certainly no reason to breed them - that statement alone marks you as a
BYB. In it for the money.

Know that for every cat you breed and sell, an unwanted shelter cat
dies. And there ARE unwanted cats in EVERY country.

Bye bye.

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Not one shred of evidence supports the notion
that life is serious.
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-------------------------------------------------

[kaeli]

In article >, sippe1
@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
> To all of you who answered to my question.Thank's for nothing.It's no
> need to attack towards me when you don't know the bagrounds.Where I'm
> living it's almost impossible to go to vet and just ask things and
> even more impossible to call them cause they are always doing
> homevisits when I try to reach them,I need to travel 50km's to get to
> vet for even vacinations and for vacination I need to start trying
> contact vet 1 month before I have planned to get the vacination. Other
> breeders I've contacted with this issue were also curious cause they
> have never heard about it before and they asked me to write this board
> and ask that maybe I can get answer. I'm sorry that you have selters
> full of unwanted cats but never I'm going to travel thousands miles
> and pic a cat from your shelters. Unwanted cats are problem but not so
> big problem in my country as in yours.And there's always going to be
> people who are willing to buy purereed cats as well.So far I've
> managed to find good homes for my kittens and I do occasionally visit
> them.I don't inform the owner when I'm coming to visit them.My cats
> are healthy and vacinated and I take good care of them.You can have
> your narrowsighted opinions for yourself and have your catproblems,I
> don't have problems with cats.This discussion from my part is over.
> Sip
>

And I had to walk 50 miles to school every morning, in the snow!!!
Barefoot!!! Uphill both ways!!!!!

Please.
Stop with the righteous indignation.

Cell phones are carried by vets and doctors who do home visits. Even if
there are no cell towers, I can't imagine people with no phones at all
to reach the vet. If there are no phones, how did you get online on the
computer?
And if the vets do home visits, why would you have to travel 50km (31
miles) to see them? BTW, 31 miles is not a big deal to me. I work 35
miles (56km) from my home. I drive there and back every weekday. So
don't try to tell me it's some big trek for you.

And just because people are willing to buy your purebred cats is
certainly no reason to breed them - that statement alone marks you as a
BYB. In it for the money.

Know that for every cat you breed and sell, an unwanted shelter cat
dies. And there ARE unwanted cats in EVERY country.

Bye bye.

-------------------------------------------------
~kaeli~
Black holes were created when God divided by 0.
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion
that life is serious.
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-------------------------------------------------

[Arjun Ray]

In >, "*~*SooZy*~*"
> wrote:

| that's another good reason not to breed kittens! supposing the queen
| gets into difficulties while given birth and maybe needs a cesarian
| section? she could die!!!!! if you love your cat how could you
| possible put her though so much risk!

Well, apparently there were no problems with the last litter, back in
November, so perhaps she figures there is no risk. Maybe she wants two
litters this year? It's about kittens for sale, after all.

[Arjun Ray]

In >, "*~*SooZy*~*"
> wrote:

| that's another good reason not to breed kittens! supposing the queen
| gets into difficulties while given birth and maybe needs a cesarian
| section? she could die!!!!! if you love your cat how could you
| possible put her though so much risk!

Well, apparently there were no problems with the last litter, back in
November, so perhaps she figures there is no risk. Maybe she wants two
litters this year? It's about kittens for sale, after all.

[PawsForThought]

>, sippe1
enlightened us with...
>> To all of you who answered to my question.Thank's for nothing.

>I need to travel 50km's to get to
>> vet for even vacinations and for vacination I need to start trying
>> contact vet 1 month before I have planned to get the vacination

Even more of a reason to spay your cat! What happens if she develops mammary
cancer or pyometria? Please stop putting your cat at risk.

Lauren
________
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Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

[PawsForThought]

>, sippe1
enlightened us with...
>> To all of you who answered to my question.Thank's for nothing.

>I need to travel 50km's to get to
>> vet for even vacinations and for vacination I need to start trying
>> contact vet 1 month before I have planned to get the vacination

Even more of a reason to spay your cat! What happens if she develops mammary
cancer or pyometria? Please stop putting your cat at risk.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

[*~*SooZy*~*]

"Arjun Ray" > wrote in message
...
> In >, "*~*SooZy*~*"
> > wrote:
>
> | that's another good reason not to breed kittens! supposing the queen
> | gets into difficulties while given birth and maybe needs a cesarian
> | section? she could die!!!!! if you love your cat how could you
> | possible put her though so much risk!
>
> Well, apparently there were no problems with the last litter, back in
> November, so perhaps she figures there is no risk. Maybe she wants two
> litters this year? It's about kittens for sale, after all.
>
yeah I know what you mean!

[*~*SooZy*~*]

"Arjun Ray" > wrote in message
...
> In >, "*~*SooZy*~*"
> > wrote:
>
> | that's another good reason not to breed kittens! supposing the queen
> | gets into difficulties while given birth and maybe needs a cesarian
> | section? she could die!!!!! if you love your cat how could you
> | possible put her though so much risk!
>
> Well, apparently there were no problems with the last litter, back in
> November, so perhaps she figures there is no risk. Maybe she wants two
> litters this year? It's about kittens for sale, after all.
>
yeah I know what you mean!