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JANET
October 5th 03, 06:27 AM
I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou
of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of
stepping on her.
I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with
coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions?
JH

Sherry
October 5th 03, 06:51 AM
>I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou
>of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of
>stepping on her.
>I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with
>coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions?
>JH
>
She is still a baby, and wants to be with you. If it were me, I'd just resolve
to be more careful and watch out for her. Please don't squirt her just for
coming in the room with her; she probably just thinks you're being mean to her.
If you absolutely can't keep from stepping on her, get a baby gate to restrict
her access to the kitchen until she's older.

Sherry

Sherry
October 5th 03, 06:51 AM
>I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou
>of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of
>stepping on her.
>I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with
>coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions?
>JH
>
She is still a baby, and wants to be with you. If it were me, I'd just resolve
to be more careful and watch out for her. Please don't squirt her just for
coming in the room with her; she probably just thinks you're being mean to her.
If you absolutely can't keep from stepping on her, get a baby gate to restrict
her access to the kitchen until she's older.

Sherry

Philip ®
October 5th 03, 04:14 PM
In ,
JANET > being of bellicose mind posted:
> I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep
> her ou of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am
> afraid of stepping on her.
> I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a
> can with coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any
> suggestions?
> JH

Step on the cat a few times ... but hopefully you don't put your full
weight on her paw. Pain is a powerful teacher.

--

~~Philip

"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

Philip ®
October 5th 03, 04:14 PM
In ,
JANET > being of bellicose mind posted:
> I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep
> her ou of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am
> afraid of stepping on her.
> I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a
> can with coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any
> suggestions?
> JH

Step on the cat a few times ... but hopefully you don't put your full
weight on her paw. Pain is a powerful teacher.

--

~~Philip

"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

Isotope
October 5th 03, 05:29 PM
Two words... Scat Mat... Your cat/kitten isn't strong enough or big enough
to jump on the counters and it's early enough in it's life that you can
create an imprint of what is right and wrong. I have done this with my cats
and dogs and, I have had great success! It's not cheap, but in the end, it's
the best enforcer of boundaries while you are not around. I'll put the link
below so if you are interested you can take a look at it. You can also find
used Scat Mats on Ebay.





http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV=G1





"JANET" > wrote in message
...
> I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou
> of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of
> stepping on her.
> I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with
> coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions?
> JH
>
>

Isotope
October 5th 03, 05:29 PM
Two words... Scat Mat... Your cat/kitten isn't strong enough or big enough
to jump on the counters and it's early enough in it's life that you can
create an imprint of what is right and wrong. I have done this with my cats
and dogs and, I have had great success! It's not cheap, but in the end, it's
the best enforcer of boundaries while you are not around. I'll put the link
below so if you are interested you can take a look at it. You can also find
used Scat Mats on Ebay.





http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV=G1





"JANET" > wrote in message
...
> I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou
> of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of
> stepping on her.
> I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with
> coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions?
> JH
>
>

MaryL
October 5th 03, 05:31 PM
"JANET" > wrote in message
...
> I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou
> of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of
> stepping on her.
> I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with
> coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions?
> JH
>

Could you put her in another room with the door closed while you are working
in the kitchen, then let her out again as soon as it's "safe"? Kittens can
get underfoot quickly, especially when your attention is directed toward
carrying bowls and things.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

MaryL
October 5th 03, 05:31 PM
"JANET" > wrote in message
...
> I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou
> of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of
> stepping on her.
> I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with
> coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions?
> JH
>

Could you put her in another room with the door closed while you are working
in the kitchen, then let her out again as soon as it's "safe"? Kittens can
get underfoot quickly, especially when your attention is directed toward
carrying bowls and things.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

---MIKE---
October 5th 03, 07:06 PM
A baby gate won't work. Any 6 month old kitten would be able to climb
over it. I tried this with Tiger (to keep him separated from Amber) and
he just climbed over it. I had to make a good sized shelf over the top
of the gate to keep him in his room.


-MIKE

---MIKE---
October 5th 03, 07:06 PM
A baby gate won't work. Any 6 month old kitten would be able to climb
over it. I tried this with Tiger (to keep him separated from Amber) and
he just climbed over it. I had to make a good sized shelf over the top
of the gate to keep him in his room.


-MIKE

Philip ®
October 5th 03, 10:20 PM
In ,
Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> Two words... Scat Mat...
>
>
>
http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
=G1

Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro shock
on people with varying degrees of success!
--

~~Philip

"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

Philip ®
October 5th 03, 10:20 PM
In ,
Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> Two words... Scat Mat...
>
>
>
http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
=G1

Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro shock
on people with varying degrees of success!
--

~~Philip

"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

Isotope
October 5th 03, 10:56 PM
It uses a harmless electrical pulse which is similar to static electricity.
There are three settings, and there isn't a fixed current when pressure is
given to the mat. The only point that I am trying to make is, that if
someone wanted to train a cat, with regard to where it is and is not allowed
(i.e. counter top, chairs, couches.) then I would recommend the Scat mat. I
haven't had any unsuccessful endeavors. I have established boundaries for
the animals that I have had, and currently have without using traditional
methods, (i.e. water bottles, loud noises, or booby traps.)


"Philip ®" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> In ,
> Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > Two words... Scat Mat...
> >
> >
> >
> http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
> =G1
>
> Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro shock
> on people with varying degrees of success!
> --
>
> ~~Philip
>
> "Never let school interfere
> with your education - Mark Twain"
>
>
>

Isotope
October 5th 03, 10:56 PM
It uses a harmless electrical pulse which is similar to static electricity.
There are three settings, and there isn't a fixed current when pressure is
given to the mat. The only point that I am trying to make is, that if
someone wanted to train a cat, with regard to where it is and is not allowed
(i.e. counter top, chairs, couches.) then I would recommend the Scat mat. I
haven't had any unsuccessful endeavors. I have established boundaries for
the animals that I have had, and currently have without using traditional
methods, (i.e. water bottles, loud noises, or booby traps.)


"Philip ®" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> In ,
> Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > Two words... Scat Mat...
> >
> >
> >
> http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
> =G1
>
> Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro shock
> on people with varying degrees of success!
> --
>
> ~~Philip
>
> "Never let school interfere
> with your education - Mark Twain"
>
>
>

MaryL
October 5th 03, 11:02 PM
"---MIKE---" > wrote in message
...
> A baby gate won't work. Any 6 month old kitten would be able to climb
> over it. I tried this with Tiger (to keep him separated from Amber) and
> he just climbed over it. I had to make a good sized shelf over the top
> of the gate to keep him in his room.
>
>
> -MIKE
>

My sister bought two extra-tall gates from Drs. Foster and Smith and mounted
them one on top of the other. Together, they completely fill the doorway.
On the other hand, they are made of plastic mesh which restrains her large
cat -- I don't know if the mesh is small enough for a cat of your size.
Youmight want to look at it on their web page.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

Photos of Duffy and Holly (pictorial history of my blind cat Duffy's
integration into our household):
Duffy, Part I: The Introduction -- http://tinyurl.com/8y54
Duffy, Part II: Life at Home -- http://tinyurl.com/8y56

MaryL
October 5th 03, 11:02 PM
"---MIKE---" > wrote in message
...
> A baby gate won't work. Any 6 month old kitten would be able to climb
> over it. I tried this with Tiger (to keep him separated from Amber) and
> he just climbed over it. I had to make a good sized shelf over the top
> of the gate to keep him in his room.
>
>
> -MIKE
>

My sister bought two extra-tall gates from Drs. Foster and Smith and mounted
them one on top of the other. Together, they completely fill the doorway.
On the other hand, they are made of plastic mesh which restrains her large
cat -- I don't know if the mesh is small enough for a cat of your size.
Youmight want to look at it on their web page.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

Photos of Duffy and Holly (pictorial history of my blind cat Duffy's
integration into our household):
Duffy, Part I: The Introduction -- http://tinyurl.com/8y54
Duffy, Part II: Life at Home -- http://tinyurl.com/8y56

Philip ®
October 6th 03, 01:40 AM
"Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok.
Establishing boundaries is a joke with a cat.
--

~~Philip

"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"


>In om,
>Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> It uses a harmless electrical pulse which is similar to static
> electricity. There are three settings, and there isn't a fixed
> current when pressure is given to the mat. The only point that I
> am trying to make is, that if someone wanted to train a cat, with
> regard to where it is and is not allowed (i.e. counter top,
> chairs, couches.) then I would recommend the Scat mat. I haven't
> had any unsuccessful endeavors. I have established boundaries for
> the animals that I have had, and currently have without using
> traditional methods, (i.e. water bottles, loud noises, or booby
> traps.)
>
>
> "Philip ®" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > In ,
> > Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > > Two words... Scat Mat...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
> > =G1
> >
> > Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro
> > shock on people with varying degrees of success!
> > --
> >
> > ~~Philip
> >
> > "Never let school interfere
> > with your education - Mark Twain"

Philip ®
October 6th 03, 01:40 AM
"Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok.
Establishing boundaries is a joke with a cat.
--

~~Philip

"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"


>In om,
>Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> It uses a harmless electrical pulse which is similar to static
> electricity. There are three settings, and there isn't a fixed
> current when pressure is given to the mat. The only point that I
> am trying to make is, that if someone wanted to train a cat, with
> regard to where it is and is not allowed (i.e. counter top,
> chairs, couches.) then I would recommend the Scat mat. I haven't
> had any unsuccessful endeavors. I have established boundaries for
> the animals that I have had, and currently have without using
> traditional methods, (i.e. water bottles, loud noises, or booby
> traps.)
>
>
> "Philip ®" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > In ,
> > Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > > Two words... Scat Mat...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
> > =G1
> >
> > Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro
> > shock on people with varying degrees of success!
> > --
> >
> > ~~Philip
> >
> > "Never let school interfere
> > with your education - Mark Twain"

Isotope
October 6th 03, 02:15 AM
Right... So I suppose that these mats are useless, and I love to administer
"Shock Therapy" to cats. Just for the record, if you imprint an animal
(especially a kitten) at an early age, you can set boundaries. Also, a
current of 0.003 ampere causes heart problems and may be fatal for anything
under 1.0 lbs, including a kitten. It's not the voltage; it's the ampere
that causes problems and the Scat Mat doesn't even come close. If you truly
understood the physics of how the Scat Mat works, you would agree with the
behavior modification and boundary establishing with cats. IT CAN BE DONE...




"Philip ®" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> "Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok.
> Establishing boundaries is a joke with a cat.
> --
>
> ~~Philip
>
> "Never let school interfere
> with your education - Mark Twain"
>
>
> >In om,
> >Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > It uses a harmless electrical pulse which is similar to static
> > electricity. There are three settings, and there isn't a fixed
> > current when pressure is given to the mat. The only point that I
> > am trying to make is, that if someone wanted to train a cat, with
> > regard to where it is and is not allowed (i.e. counter top,
> > chairs, couches.) then I would recommend the Scat mat. I haven't
> > had any unsuccessful endeavors. I have established boundaries for
> > the animals that I have had, and currently have without using
> > traditional methods, (i.e. water bottles, loud noises, or booby
> > traps.)
> >
> >
> > "Philip ®" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > > In ,
> > > Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > > > Two words... Scat Mat...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
> > > =G1
> > >
> > > Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro
> > > shock on people with varying degrees of success!
> > > --
> > >
> > > ~~Philip
> > >
> > > "Never let school interfere
> > > with your education - Mark Twain"
>
>
>
>

Isotope
October 6th 03, 02:15 AM
Right... So I suppose that these mats are useless, and I love to administer
"Shock Therapy" to cats. Just for the record, if you imprint an animal
(especially a kitten) at an early age, you can set boundaries. Also, a
current of 0.003 ampere causes heart problems and may be fatal for anything
under 1.0 lbs, including a kitten. It's not the voltage; it's the ampere
that causes problems and the Scat Mat doesn't even come close. If you truly
understood the physics of how the Scat Mat works, you would agree with the
behavior modification and boundary establishing with cats. IT CAN BE DONE...




"Philip ®" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> "Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok.
> Establishing boundaries is a joke with a cat.
> --
>
> ~~Philip
>
> "Never let school interfere
> with your education - Mark Twain"
>
>
> >In om,
> >Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > It uses a harmless electrical pulse which is similar to static
> > electricity. There are three settings, and there isn't a fixed
> > current when pressure is given to the mat. The only point that I
> > am trying to make is, that if someone wanted to train a cat, with
> > regard to where it is and is not allowed (i.e. counter top,
> > chairs, couches.) then I would recommend the Scat mat. I haven't
> > had any unsuccessful endeavors. I have established boundaries for
> > the animals that I have had, and currently have without using
> > traditional methods, (i.e. water bottles, loud noises, or booby
> > traps.)
> >
> >
> > "Philip ®" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > > In ,
> > > Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > > > Two words... Scat Mat...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
> > > =G1
> > >
> > > Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro
> > > shock on people with varying degrees of success!
> > > --
> > >
> > > ~~Philip
> > >
> > > "Never let school interfere
> > > with your education - Mark Twain"
>
>
>
>

Philip ®
October 6th 03, 08:18 AM
Are you another one of these people that I have to punctuate with
smiley faces to save you from your seriousness? Let's try it again:
"Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok."
What part of that passage led you to post the following drivel?
Sheesh
--

~~Philip

"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

>In ,
>Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> Right... So I suppose that these mats are useless, and I love to
> administer "Shock Therapy" to cats. Just for the record, if you
> imprint an animal (especially a kitten) at an early age, you can
> set boundaries. Also, a current of 0.003 ampere causes heart
> problems and may be fatal for anything under 1.0 lbs, including a
> kitten. It's not the voltage; it's the ampere that causes problems
> and the Scat Mat doesn't even come close. If you truly understood
> the physics of how the Scat Mat works, you would agree with the
> behavior modification and boundary establishing with cats. IT CAN
> BE DONE...
>
>
>
>
> "Philip ®" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > "Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok.
> > Establishing boundaries is a joke with a cat.
> > --
> >
> > ~~Philip
> >
> > "Never let school interfere
> > with your education - Mark Twain"
> >
> >
> > > In om,
> > > Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > > It uses a harmless electrical pulse which is similar to static
> > > electricity. There are three settings, and there isn't a fixed
> > > current when pressure is given to the mat. The only point that
> > > I am trying to make is, that if someone wanted to train a cat,
> > > with regard to where it is and is not allowed (i.e. counter
> > > top, chairs, couches.) then I would recommend the Scat mat. I
> > > haven't had any unsuccessful endeavors. I have established
> > > boundaries for the animals that I have had, and currently have
> > > without using traditional methods, (i.e. water bottles, loud
> > > noises, or booby traps.)
> > >
> > >
> > > "Philip ®" > wrote in
> > > message
> > > ink.net...
> > > > In ,
> > > > Isotope > being of bellicose mind
> > > > posted:
> > > > > Two words... Scat Mat...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
> > > > =G1
> > > >
> > > > Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro
> > > > shock on people with varying degrees of success!
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > ~~Philip
> > > >
> > > > "Never let school interfere
> > > > with your education - Mark Twain"

Philip ®
October 6th 03, 08:18 AM
Are you another one of these people that I have to punctuate with
smiley faces to save you from your seriousness? Let's try it again:
"Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok."
What part of that passage led you to post the following drivel?
Sheesh
--

~~Philip

"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

>In ,
>Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> Right... So I suppose that these mats are useless, and I love to
> administer "Shock Therapy" to cats. Just for the record, if you
> imprint an animal (especially a kitten) at an early age, you can
> set boundaries. Also, a current of 0.003 ampere causes heart
> problems and may be fatal for anything under 1.0 lbs, including a
> kitten. It's not the voltage; it's the ampere that causes problems
> and the Scat Mat doesn't even come close. If you truly understood
> the physics of how the Scat Mat works, you would agree with the
> behavior modification and boundary establishing with cats. IT CAN
> BE DONE...
>
>
>
>
> "Philip ®" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > "Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok.
> > Establishing boundaries is a joke with a cat.
> > --
> >
> > ~~Philip
> >
> > "Never let school interfere
> > with your education - Mark Twain"
> >
> >
> > > In om,
> > > Isotope > being of bellicose mind posted:
> > > It uses a harmless electrical pulse which is similar to static
> > > electricity. There are three settings, and there isn't a fixed
> > > current when pressure is given to the mat. The only point that
> > > I am trying to make is, that if someone wanted to train a cat,
> > > with regard to where it is and is not allowed (i.e. counter
> > > top, chairs, couches.) then I would recommend the Scat mat. I
> > > haven't had any unsuccessful endeavors. I have established
> > > boundaries for the animals that I have had, and currently have
> > > without using traditional methods, (i.e. water bottles, loud
> > > noises, or booby traps.)
> > >
> > >
> > > "Philip ®" > wrote in
> > > message
> > > ink.net...
> > > > In ,
> > > > Isotope > being of bellicose mind
> > > > posted:
> > > > > Two words... Scat Mat...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV
> > > > =G1
> > > >
> > > > Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro
> > > > shock on people with varying degrees of success!
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > ~~Philip
> > > >
> > > > "Never let school interfere
> > > > with your education - Mark Twain"

Iso
October 29th 03, 04:09 PM
Hey JACKASS,



If the product were deemed cruel and inhumane, it wouldn't have received
ASPCA approval. Next time do your homework and investigate the topic before
you make your opinion public.

Iso
October 29th 03, 04:09 PM
Hey JACKASS,



If the product were deemed cruel and inhumane, it wouldn't have received
ASPCA approval. Next time do your homework and investigate the topic before
you make your opinion public.

Iso
November 2nd 03, 08:30 PM
Phillip, a.k.a. "Anchovy"



There isn't an electric shock administered at anytime. It sends a STATIC
SHOCK, similar to what you and I receive from clothes directly out of the
drier. You are making a fruitless claim by mistaking the two types of shock.
There is NOT a sufficient quantity of amps to do any harm or cause side
effects, severe mental trauma, emotional and or psychological problems. It
is not an electric chair, or a live wire with 1,800 volts. It is collection
of electrons or charged atoms on the surface which, when touched sends a
static shock. DO YOU RESEARCH! Until then, stay at your flat in Earls Court
or Brighton and stop worrying about how I maintain my cats. Read about
feline physiology, and then come back when you have a point to make. How can
you compare a kitten to a human child? You do know the difference right?

Iso
November 2nd 03, 08:30 PM
Phillip, a.k.a. "Anchovy"



There isn't an electric shock administered at anytime. It sends a STATIC
SHOCK, similar to what you and I receive from clothes directly out of the
drier. You are making a fruitless claim by mistaking the two types of shock.
There is NOT a sufficient quantity of amps to do any harm or cause side
effects, severe mental trauma, emotional and or psychological problems. It
is not an electric chair, or a live wire with 1,800 volts. It is collection
of electrons or charged atoms on the surface which, when touched sends a
static shock. DO YOU RESEARCH! Until then, stay at your flat in Earls Court
or Brighton and stop worrying about how I maintain my cats. Read about
feline physiology, and then come back when you have a point to make. How can
you compare a kitten to a human child? You do know the difference right?

Iso
November 3rd 03, 07:21 AM
Phillip,



Actually, I didn't have to run a search for you in any other groups.
Your TCP/IP settings and how you read your news groups narrow down where you
are. Back to the point, which is you objection? Is it your not understanding
of how the mat works, or is because you are mistaken regarding what the mat
does to the cat? You didn't hit a nerve, but your unawareness, and fruitless
claims of severe mental trauma, emotional and or psychological problems are
what are aggravating. Obviously, you and I see the situation differently. I
have had animals (cats, dogs, cows, pigs.) all my life. I have tried many
other approaches to modifying the habitual behavior of cats, and haven't had
any greater success than I have with these mats. Things are different in the
U.K. The mats, regardless of what you think WORK and are HARMLESS. If I
thought that the mats were harming any of the animals, I wouldn't have
purchased it and the ASPCA wouldn't have issued its seal of approval for
training devices. In conclusion, I respectfully disagree with you opinion of
the Scat Mat, and their operation. I'm sorry that you feel that I am not
worthy of having pets, but I disagree with your position and your opinion.

Iso
November 3rd 03, 07:21 AM
Phillip,



Actually, I didn't have to run a search for you in any other groups.
Your TCP/IP settings and how you read your news groups narrow down where you
are. Back to the point, which is you objection? Is it your not understanding
of how the mat works, or is because you are mistaken regarding what the mat
does to the cat? You didn't hit a nerve, but your unawareness, and fruitless
claims of severe mental trauma, emotional and or psychological problems are
what are aggravating. Obviously, you and I see the situation differently. I
have had animals (cats, dogs, cows, pigs.) all my life. I have tried many
other approaches to modifying the habitual behavior of cats, and haven't had
any greater success than I have with these mats. Things are different in the
U.K. The mats, regardless of what you think WORK and are HARMLESS. If I
thought that the mats were harming any of the animals, I wouldn't have
purchased it and the ASPCA wouldn't have issued its seal of approval for
training devices. In conclusion, I respectfully disagree with you opinion of
the Scat Mat, and their operation. I'm sorry that you feel that I am not
worthy of having pets, but I disagree with your position and your opinion.

J1Boss
November 3rd 03, 07:25 PM
>From: "Iso"
>The mats, regardless of what you think WORK and are HARMLESS.

Just another opinion that Scat Mats are pretty useful tools. Rather than have
my youngest cat continue to ruin my leather furniture, we have Scat Mats on the
sofa and chair. When they are off, and we're sitting on that furniture, Skip
is allowed on and in our laps, etc. When the mats are on, I can be happy with
the fact that he's not urinating on the leather! The static charge isn't
much at all - it's a deterrent, and a good one.


Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

J1Boss
November 3rd 03, 07:25 PM
>From: "Iso"
>The mats, regardless of what you think WORK and are HARMLESS.

Just another opinion that Scat Mats are pretty useful tools. Rather than have
my youngest cat continue to ruin my leather furniture, we have Scat Mats on the
sofa and chair. When they are off, and we're sitting on that furniture, Skip
is allowed on and in our laps, etc. When the mats are on, I can be happy with
the fact that he's not urinating on the leather! The static charge isn't
much at all - it's a deterrent, and a good one.


Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com