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LeeAnne
August 20th 03, 02:51 PM
Bring her out to the middle of the ocean and make her swim 'til she's
exhausted then do it again?
:-D

"Bobcat" > wrote in message
...
> We watched last night's TV show "What Were You Thinking". It featured a
> woman who must rank at the very top of misguided, stupid cat owners. At
the
> beach she takes her cat along with her on her surf board. We saw the poor
> wet miserable bedraggled creature hunched down on the board, ears
flattened,
> hanging on for dear life. But it got worse. Then she tossed her cat
> overboard and it paddled desperately for shore, but apparently she drags
it
> back and makes it do it again to the point of exhaustion, saying that the
> cat loves to swim! Any suggestions for what we should do with the woman,
> after we rescue the cat?
>
>

Hopitus2
August 20th 03, 03:22 PM
Drop woman and her longboard out in the middle of the GreatWhites lurking at
Great Barrier Reef near OZ.......and find a new, peaceful foreverhome for
her stressed-out cat!
Kowabunga!



"LeeAnne" > wrote in message
...
: Bring her out to the middle of the ocean and make her swim 'til she's
: exhausted then do it again?
: :-D
:
: "Bobcat" > wrote in message
: ...
: > We watched last night's TV show "What Were You Thinking". It featured a
: > woman who must rank at the very top of misguided, stupid cat owners. At
: the
: > beach she takes her cat along with her on her surf board. We saw the
poor
: > wet miserable bedraggled creature hunched down on the board, ears
: flattened,
: > hanging on for dear life. But it got worse. Then she tossed her cat
: > overboard and it paddled desperately for shore, but apparently she drags
: it
: > back and makes it do it again to the point of exhaustion, saying that
the
: > cat loves to swim! Any suggestions for what we should do with the woman,
: > after we rescue the cat?
: >
: >
:
:

bunny_baby
August 20th 03, 04:19 PM
put her in a lake with crocs and let her know how it feels to be in out of
her deth. my foster kitten is trying to nick my cream doughnut.

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"LeeAnne" > wrote in message
...
> Bring her out to the middle of the ocean and make her swim 'til she's
> exhausted then do it again?
> :-D
>
> "Bobcat" > wrote in message
> ...
> > We watched last night's TV show "What Were You Thinking". It featured a
> > woman who must rank at the very top of misguided, stupid cat owners. At
> the
> > beach she takes her cat along with her on her surf board. We saw the
poor
> > wet miserable bedraggled creature hunched down on the board, ears
> flattened,
> > hanging on for dear life. But it got worse. Then she tossed her cat
> > overboard and it paddled desperately for shore, but apparently she drags
> it
> > back and makes it do it again to the point of exhaustion, saying that
the
> > cat loves to swim! Any suggestions for what we should do with the woman,
> > after we rescue the cat?
> >
> >
>
>

bewtifulfreak
August 20th 03, 04:24 PM
bunny_baby wrote:
> put her in a lake with crocs and let her know how it feels to be in
> out of her deth.

Absolutely! I mean, it's one thing if you have one of those unique cats who
loves water, but from all the signs (flat ears and whatnot), sounds like
this kitty was going through sheer *hell*. >:(


> my foster kitten is trying to nick my cream doughnut.

LOL, I know the feeling....you should see my Greebo when we eat ice cream or
yogurt (I always thought he'd make a great spokespurrson)!

Ann

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polonca12000
August 20th 03, 05:18 PM
That's terrible! Poor kitty! The woman is positively torturing her. I do
hope someone stops the woman from doing that.
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"Bobcat" > wrote in message
...
> We watched last night's TV show "What Were You Thinking". It featured a
> woman who must rank at the very top of misguided, stupid cat owners. At
the
> beach she takes her cat along with her on her surf board. <snip>

BricksInTheWall8
August 20th 03, 07:55 PM
I saw that show too. I thought the cat looked fine when she was actually
swimming in the water, but she DID look kind of upset about the surfing
part.It's hard to judge someone based on just a minute or two of clips, though.
Her ears were back, but it could be because she was soaking wet? If she really
hated it, you'd think she'd be giving her owner more of a hard time about it,
like trying to run away (before she was dragged into the water) or crying or
something. I mean, my cat goes absolutely BALLISTIC when I try to make her do
something she doesn't want to do. (i.e. take medicine, not attack other cat)

But the whole thing did just seem like a plain old bad idea. I just don't think
it's very fair to accuse this lady of being horrible when we really don't know
what happened.

Yoj
August 20th 03, 08:50 PM
"BricksInTheWall8" > wrote in message
...
> I saw that show too. I thought the cat looked fine when she was
actually
> swimming in the water, but she DID look kind of upset about the
surfing
> part.It's hard to judge someone based on just a minute or two of
clips, though.
> Her ears were back, but it could be because she was soaking wet? If
she really
> hated it, you'd think she'd be giving her owner more of a hard time
about it,
> like trying to run away (before she was dragged into the water) or
crying or
> something. I mean, my cat goes absolutely BALLISTIC when I try to make
her do
> something she doesn't want to do. (i.e. take medicine, not attack
other cat)
>
> But the whole thing did just seem like a plain old bad idea. I just
don't think
> it's very fair to accuse this lady of being horrible when we really
don't know
> what happened.

You make a very good point. I know there are cats who like to swim.

When I was a baby, my parents lived on a farm that had a reservoir. One
of the cats (I don't remember whether it was Myih or Myah) was pestering
my Dad and almost tripped him when he was walking near the reservoir.
Finally he picked up the cat and threw it into the reservoir. He
watched closely, and would have rescued it if it had been in trouble.
The cat swam out easily. After that, every time my Dad went near the
reservoir, that cat would come around and pester until my Dad threw him
in the reservoir.

Joy

Bobcat
August 20th 03, 09:06 PM
"BricksInTheWall8" > wrote in message
...
> I saw that show too. I thought the cat looked fine when she was actually
> swimming in the water, but she DID look kind of upset about the surfing
> part.It's hard to judge someone based on just a minute or two of clips,
though.
> Her ears were back, but it could be because she was soaking wet? If she
really
> hated it, you'd think she'd be giving her owner more of a hard time about
it,
> like trying to run away (before she was dragged into the water) or crying
or
> something. I mean, my cat goes absolutely BALLISTIC when I try to make her
do
> something she doesn't want to do. (i.e. take medicine, not attack other
cat)
>
> But the whole thing did just seem like a plain old bad idea. I just don't
think
> it's very fair to accuse this lady of being horrible when we really don't
know
> what happened.

Like you, I'm only judging by what the program showed us, and I didn't like
it at all. For one thing as I said, the angle of the camera indicated that
the cat seemed to be swimming desperately for shore. If it were enjoying
swimming it would more likely be heading for its owner, or swimming around,
or playing. IMO, I saw the nothing to indicate the cat found any pleasure in
being in the water - in fact quite the opposite. Besides, although there are
exceptions, by far the greatest percentage of cats have an aversion to being
wet than not.

bewtifulfreak
August 20th 03, 09:06 PM
Yoj wrote:

> You make a very good point. I know there are cats who like to swim.

Yeah, and it's true you can't normally get a cat near a *sink* of water that
doesn't want to be. We just get so protective, don't we? :)

Ann

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bewtifulfreak
August 20th 03, 09:25 PM
Bobcat wrote:
> "BricksInTheWall8" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I saw that show too. I thought the cat looked fine when she was
>> actually swimming in the water, but she DID look kind of upset about
>> the surfing part.

> Like you, I'm only judging by what the program showed us, and I
> didn't like it at all. For one thing as I said, the angle of the
> camera indicated that the cat seemed to be swimming desperately for
> shore. If it were enjoying swimming it would more likely be heading
> for its owner, or swimming around, or playing. IMO, I saw the nothing
> to indicate the cat found any pleasure in being in the water - in
> fact quite the opposite. Besides, although there are exceptions, by
> far the greatest percentage of cats have an aversion to being wet
> than not.

Well, it does seem unlikely that a cat would enjoy something like that, but
it really is hard to know for sure. I tend to agree with you, but I know I
have a habit of jumping to conclusions about things when I feel protective,
so I'm trying to reserve making judgements without all the facts from now
on. But I certainly agree that it seems hard to believe that a cat could
enjoy something like that, though there are, of course, exceptions to every
rule.

Ann

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Cat Protector
August 20th 03, 09:53 PM
Drown her. I think it is terrible what she is doing to this cat to get
publicity.

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"Bobcat" > wrote in message
...
> We watched last night's TV show "What Were You Thinking". It featured a
> woman who must rank at the very top of misguided, stupid cat owners. At
the
> beach she takes her cat along with her on her surf board. We saw the poor
> wet miserable bedraggled creature hunched down on the board, ears
flattened,
> hanging on for dear life. But it got worse. Then she tossed her cat
> overboard and it paddled desperately for shore, but apparently she drags
it
> back and makes it do it again to the point of exhaustion, saying that the
> cat loves to swim! Any suggestions for what we should do with the woman,
> after we rescue the cat?
>
>

Yowie
August 20th 03, 11:08 PM
"bewtifulfreak" > wrote in message
...
> Yoj wrote:
>
> > You make a very good point. I know there are cats who like to swim.
>
> Yeah, and it's true you can't normally get a cat near a *sink* of water
that
> doesn't want to be. We just get so protective, don't we? :)

Missy, a cat who resided at an outdoors cafe in Magnetic Island, Queensland,
Australia, took regular dips in the fishpond to try to get the customers to
feel sorry enough for her to give her their cream from their coffee.

When i was there, my friend and I nearly fell for the trick until the owners
came out of the house and told us not to. Missy was a "fluffy" cat, even
when soaking wet, and the vet had put her on a no-cream diet. She also had
the most pathetic little mew I've ever heard, but it was all just an act to
get the cream.

Cats are cunning creatures...

Yowie

Hopitus2
August 21st 03, 12:29 AM
I can see that you dudes and ladies know nothing about surfing (although
your cat 411 is good)....what if the idiot's board had knocked the cat on
it's head (certain death for a surfer)? Would she have been able to retrieve
the sinking, stunned or unconcious (sp?) cat from a watery grave while
staying afloat herself? Duh. Zero tolerance for such shenanigans, whether
her cat "enjoyed" swimming or not!




"Yoj" > wrote in message
...
: "BricksInTheWall8" > wrote in message
: ...
: > I saw that show too. I thought the cat looked fine when she was
: actually
: > swimming in the water, but she DID look kind of upset about the
: surfing
: > part.It's hard to judge someone based on just a minute or two of
: clips, though.
: > Her ears were back, but it could be because she was soaking wet? If
: she really
: > hated it, you'd think she'd be giving her owner more of a hard time
: about it,
: > like trying to run away (before she was dragged into the water) or
: crying or
: > something. I mean, my cat goes absolutely BALLISTIC when I try to make
: her do
: > something she doesn't want to do. (i.e. take medicine, not attack
: other cat)
: >
: > But the whole thing did just seem like a plain old bad idea. I just
: don't think
: > it's very fair to accuse this lady of being horrible when we really
: don't know
: > what happened.
:
: You make a very good point. I know there are cats who like to swim.
:
: When I was a baby, my parents lived on a farm that had a reservoir. One
: of the cats (I don't remember whether it was Myih or Myah) was pestering
: my Dad and almost tripped him when he was walking near the reservoir.
: Finally he picked up the cat and threw it into the reservoir. He
: watched closely, and would have rescued it if it had been in trouble.
: The cat swam out easily. After that, every time my Dad went near the
: reservoir, that cat would come around and pester until my Dad threw him
: in the reservoir.
:
: Joy
:
:

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
August 21st 03, 03:16 AM
Bobcat wrote:
>
> We watched last night's TV show "What Were You Thinking". It featured a
> woman who must rank at the very top of misguided, stupid cat owners. At the
> beach she takes her cat along with her on her surf board. We saw the poor
> wet miserable bedraggled creature hunched down on the board, ears flattened,
> hanging on for dear life. But it got worse. Then she tossed her cat
> overboard and it paddled desperately for shore, but apparently she drags it
> back and makes it do it again to the point of exhaustion, saying that the
> cat loves to swim! Any suggestions for what we should do with the woman,
> after we rescue the cat?


Take her out past the three mile limit, toss HER overboard, and let HER
swim for shore? Sure, cats CAN swim, if they have to - I think most
mammals can - but why force them to?

Fred Williams
August 21st 03, 03:22 AM
bewtifulfreak wrote:

> Bobcat wrote:
>> "BricksInTheWall8" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I saw that show too. I thought the cat looked fine when she was
>>> actually swimming in the water, but she DID look kind of upset
>>> about the surfing part.
>
>> Like you, I'm only judging by what the program showed us, and I
>> didn't like it at all. For one thing as I said, the angle of the
>> camera indicated that the cat seemed to be swimming desperately for
>> shore. If it were enjoying swimming it would more likely be
>> heading for its owner, or swimming around, or playing. IMO, I saw
>> the nothing to indicate the cat found any pleasure in being in the
>> water - in fact quite the opposite. Besides, although there are
>> exceptions, by far the greatest percentage of cats have an aversion
>> to being wet than not.
>
> Well, it does seem unlikely that a cat would enjoy something like
> that, but
> it really is hard to know for sure. I tend to agree with you, but I
> know I have a habit of jumping to conclusions about things when I
> feel protective, so I'm trying to reserve making judgements without
> all the facts from now
> on. But I certainly agree that it seems hard to believe that a cat
> could enjoy something like that, though there are, of course,
> exceptions to every rule.
>
> Ann
>

It's likely animal abuse, because this is not a good place for a cat.
Some people shouldn't be trusted around cats. I hesitate to
proscribe punishment, but "education" might be in order.

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>
Remove FFFf to reply, please

JHBennett
August 21st 03, 08:46 AM
"Yowie" > wrote in message
u...
> "bewtifulfreak" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Yoj wrote:
> >
[[[[[[[snip]]]]]]]

> Cats are cunning creatures...
>
> Yowie
Amen to that. My sister has two cats, one of which loves water. His
favorite thing is to lure the other cat into range then swipe water from a
bowl, the sink, the shower stall, or whatever is handy, into the face of the
other cat.
Jack

John Biltz
August 21st 03, 12:05 PM
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 1:59:37 -0700, wrote
(in message >):

> I'd like to know what the *tv show producers* were thinking, filming
> someone doing something stupid and possibly cruel to her cat?
>
> OK, point taken about us not knowing the whole story, and maybe the cat
> doesn't actually hate the water, and so on. But given that the show is
> called "What Were You Thinking?" they must be creating the segments
> with an eye to the *stupid* things people do. Great, someone tormenting
> a cat for entertainment!
>
> Joyce

The cat must enjoy it or at least not mind it. It took me a week of
struggle to cut a mat out of Maya's fur. No way I could keep her on a
surfboard. I don't think it is cruel. I do however think it is damned
stupid and irresponsible. Surfing is fairly dangerous for a person. It
would be a lot more dangerous for a small animal. I don't think that
surf board wax would be real good for a cats fur or the cat. My other
question is how did it happen the first time? That first time you would
not know the cat was going to enjoy it.

bewtifulfreak
August 21st 03, 05:41 PM
John Biltz wrote:

> The cat must enjoy it or at least not mind it. It took me a week of
> struggle to cut a mat out of Maya's fur. No way I could keep her on a
> surfboard. I don't think it is cruel. I do however think it is
> damned stupid and irresponsible. Surfing is fairly dangerous for a
> person. It would be a lot more dangerous for a small animal.

Now, *that*, I don't think there's any question of. Very good point, well
made.


> I don't think that surf board wax would be real good for a cats fur or
> the cat. My other question is how did it happen the first time?
> That first time you would not know the cat was going to enjoy it.

Good question....

Ann

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JHBennett
August 21st 03, 07:05 PM
"Yoj" > wrote in message
...
> "BricksInTheWall8" > wrote in message
> ...
[[[[[[[[[[snip]]]]]]]]
>
> You make a very good point. I know there are cats who like to swim.
>
> When I was a baby, my parents lived on a farm that had a reservoir. One
> of the cats (I don't remember whether it was Myih or Myah) was pestering
> my Dad and almost tripped him when he was walking near the reservoir.
> Finally he picked up the cat and threw it into the reservoir. He
> watched closely, and would have rescued it if it had been in trouble.
> The cat swam out easily. After that, every time my Dad went near the
> reservoir, that cat would come around and pester until my Dad threw him
> in the reservoir.
>
> Joy


Methinks I just heard 'Bre'r Rabbit cry "please don't throw me in that briar
patch."
Jack

Motherthing
August 22nd 03, 01:23 AM
"Bobcat" > wrote in message
...
> We watched last night's TV show "What Were You Thinking". It featured a
> woman who must rank at the very top of misguided, stupid cat owners. At
the
> beach she takes her cat along with her on her surf board. We saw the poor
> wet miserable bedraggled creature hunched down on the board, ears
flattened,
> hanging on for dear life. But it got worse. Then she tossed her cat
> overboard and it paddled desperately for shore, but apparently she drags
it
> back and makes it do it again to the point of exhaustion, saying that the
> cat loves to swim! Any suggestions for what we should do with the woman,
> after we rescue the cat?
>
>

What about the problem of the cat having to lick the SALT water out of it's
fur? Does she give the cat a post-surfing bath? And how traumatic is that
for the poor creature?

--
Motherthing

Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers
are starving to death.
- Rosalind Russell

bewtifulfreak
August 24th 03, 08:51 PM
Hopitus2 wrote:
> I can see that you dudes and ladies know nothing about surfing
> (although your cat 411 is good)....what if the idiot's board had
> knocked the cat on it's head (certain death for a surfer)? Would she
> have been able to retrieve the sinking, stunned or unconcious (sp?)
> cat from a watery grave while staying afloat herself? Duh. Zero
> tolerance for such shenanigans, whether her cat "enjoyed" swimming or
> not!

That's true....we encourage folks to take cats out supervised if they live
near a busy street, even though I'm sure the cat would enjoy wandering on
its own, so why let - or worse, encourage - it to do something else at least
as unsafe, whether it wants to or not? I was hemming and hawing only
because I'm so quick to jump in without all the facts, but after hearing
both sides of the debate, I have to agree that, whether the cat enjoyed it
or not (and that in itself is debatable), it's an irresponsible thing to
involve your pet in. If your cat really likes water, get it a paddling pool
(and if it really likes waves, get it a whirpool attachment for the bath)!
;)

Ann

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