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polonca12000
August 10th 03, 03:39 PM
Continued purrs and best wishes for Tasha,
--
Polonca & Soncek

"Jeanne Hedge" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks to all who have posted here re: Natasha :)
>
> Although she's spent most of the day snoozing, she definitely seems to
> be feeling better, although not 100% I think. <snip>

Stacey
August 10th 03, 04:14 PM
Jeanne -

Re: the leukemia vac... an acquaintance of mine had 3 indoor cats with no
leukemia vac for the same reason you mentioned. Unfortunately, one got out
and galavanted about the neighborhood for a few days and upon returning,
brought home Fel Leuk with him... and ended up giving it to the other
kitties :(. I get mine all vacced for this very reason.. just in case! :)

Glad Natasha is feeling better!

Stacey :)

"Jeanne Hedge" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 03:23:36 GMT, "jen.d" > wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> >By shots do you mean vaccinations?
> >>
> >> Yes. In the part of the US I grew up in, vaccinations = shots.
> >>
> >> OTOH, shots = a lot more than just vaccinations. Pretty much anything
> >> injected into a body (H.sapiens or other) using a needle falls under
> >> the category of "shots" ^_^
> >
> >Just wondering - they're called that in Canada too obviously, but wasn't
> >sure if there were shots of any other kind being given (ie: vitamins or
> >something). The reason I inquire is that I'm just wondering if vaccines
are
> >absolutely necessary for Natasha? I'd be very cautious giving
vaccinations
> >to such a senior kitty, particularly with any kind of issue concerning
> >health (or even if there isn't) since they're so tough on the body even
for
> >the youngins and past shots should still be active in the system for
years
> >on end. Many vets don't share both sides of the story. But if you already
> >know, then never mind ;)
>
>
> Thanks to all who have posted here re: Natasha :)
>
> Although she's spent most of the day snoozing, she definitely seems to
> be feeling better, although not 100% I think. The vet called a bit ago
> to check on her (5:30pm on a Saturday?! quite amazing to me!), and
> said that it may take 2-3 days just to recover throwing up that much
> (regardless of the cause)
>
> Tasha wasn't interested in her food (dry) this morning, so I bought a
> few cans of food for her. This is a cat who has never had canned food
> in her life, and I thought the change might interest her.
>
> I don't think she's quite sure what to do - she's *licking* at it!
> It's quite funny to watch :) I've taken a fork to it, to rough it up
> some, hoping she'll get the idea eventually. But I take it as a good
> sign that she is now showing some interest in the food dish (and not
> as something to play in)
>
> In answer to a couple questions, yes, Tasha was given fluids several
> times Friday to rehydrate her. Also some antibiotics, and I was given
> some to take home.
>
> The vet (Dr Grant) actually took time to give me instruction on how to
> squirt the liquid antibiotic into Tasha's mouth. It's 1.5 ml, and the
> dropper will only do 1 ml at a time.
> #1 - do it in two 0.75 ml increments, because it's difficult to fill
> the dropper all the way.
> #2 - wrap the cat in a towel or blanket first so she won't fight you.
> #3 - squirt half of that 0.75 ml at a time, if you don't she'll
> probably spit it out and you'll end up wearing it.
> Have I mentioned that Dr Grant has a great sense of humor?
>
>
> Dr Grant also says that a lot of the animals they're seeing right now
> are shedding badly. Being August it's the height of summer here, but
> summer's been very mild in Illinois this year so I don't know why
> anyone would be shedding excessively...
>
>
> As for the question about Natasha's annual vaccinations, the law
> requires she get certain ones, like rabies, so there's no getting
> around that. Some vaccinations (I'm not sure which ones) she gets once
> every 3 years. Others, such as for feline leukemia, she doesn't get at
> all because, being an indoor cat with no contact with unknown cats,
> she's very low-risk.
>
> It was decided to not give her any vaccinations yesterday, because of
> her being sick. We're going to get her over this, and then see what
> the results of the blood retest next week are, before we decide where
> to go from there.
>
> I've got all available appendages crossed that this mess is indeed due
> to a badly placed (and expensive!) hairball and not something else...
>
>
> Thanks again everyone :)
>
>
> Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha
>
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jen.d
August 10th 03, 06:07 PM
> Re: the leukemia vac... an acquaintance of mine had 3 indoor cats with no
> leukemia vac for the same reason you mentioned. Unfortunately, one got out
> and galavanted about the neighborhood for a few days and upon returning,
> brought home Fel Leuk with him... and ended up giving it to the other
> kitties :(. I get mine all vacced for this very reason.. just in case! :)
>
> Glad Natasha is feeling better!
>
> Stacey :)

Well, I can share many stories from the other side of the fence where the
over-vaccinations have caused the problems and cats get sick, lifelong
health problems, or die. But I don't want to start a debate ;) I strongly
believe it's just about carefully reading about *both*, and choosing "what's
the greatest risk? Potential problems from vaccinations or escaping and
encountering an ill cat". And yes, you're right - there's a risk not
vaccinating, but there is also a risk from vaccinating.

Personally, none of my cats are vaccinated after kittenhood... just in
case!! Even if there was a legal thing here, I wouldn't. I look my vet in
the eye, tell them I've read all about vaccines and have chosen not to do
vaccinate after kittenhood. And after 3 years, I've finally found the first
vet who believes the same as me (in a "western" veterinary, no less).

I fully realize it's a personal decision, and I'm in no position to preach.
I only encourage people to read about the harm vaccinations can do as well
in their decision making, because most vets won't educate you on that. Bad
business decision. I've had the seemingly best, kindest vets adamently
denounce that there's a single problem with vaccinating cats (and there
certainly is, even without opinion getting in the way). IMHO, I find that
atrocious. Therefore, I find personal education is the key, taking into
consideration the age, health, location of your cat as well as their history
of vaccines.

Jen.

Karen Chuplis
August 10th 03, 06:38 PM
in article , jen.d at
wrote on 8/10/03 12:07 PM:

>> Re: the leukemia vac... an acquaintance of mine had 3 indoor cats with no
>> leukemia vac for the same reason you mentioned. Unfortunately, one got out
>> and galavanted about the neighborhood for a few days and upon returning,
>> brought home Fel Leuk with him... and ended up giving it to the other
>> kitties :(. I get mine all vacced for this very reason.. just in case! :)
>>
>> Glad Natasha is feeling better!
>>
>> Stacey :)
>
> Well, I can share many stories from the other side of the fence where the
> over-vaccinations have caused the problems and cats get sick, lifelong
> health problems, or die. But I don't want to start a debate ;) I strongly
> believe it's just about carefully reading about *both*, and choosing "what's
> the greatest risk? Potential problems from vaccinations or escaping and
> encountering an ill cat". And yes, you're right - there's a risk not
> vaccinating, but there is also a risk from vaccinating.
>
> Personally, none of my cats are vaccinated after kittenhood... just in
> case!! Even if there was a legal thing here, I wouldn't. I look my vet in
> the eye, tell them I've read all about vaccines and have chosen not to do
> vaccinate after kittenhood. And after 3 years, I've finally found the first
> vet who believes the same as me (in a "western" veterinary, no less).
>
> I fully realize it's a personal decision, and I'm in no position to preach.
> I only encourage people to read about the harm vaccinations can do as well
> in their decision making, because most vets won't educate you on that. Bad
> business decision. I've had the seemingly best, kindest vets adamently
> denounce that there's a single problem with vaccinating cats (and there
> certainly is, even without opinion getting in the way). IMHO, I find that
> atrocious. Therefore, I find personal education is the key, taking into
> consideration the age, health, location of your cat as well as their history
> of vaccines.
>
> Jen.

I'm just scared to do them now because Sugar got SO sick the last time. But
it's just plain hard to decide what to do. Pearl got hers and it didn't
phase her in the least but Grant and Sugar have always had problems with
vacs. *sigh*

Karen

Kim Walters
August 10th 03, 07:15 PM
http://photos.yahoo.com/sir_eg_of_bert
"jen.d" > wrote in message
. ca...
> > Re: the leukemia vac... an acquaintance of mine had 3 indoor cats with
no
> > leukemia vac for the same reason you mentioned. Unfortunately, one got
out
> > and galavanted about the neighborhood for a few days and upon returning,
> > brought home Fel Leuk with him... and ended up giving it to the other
> > kitties :(. I get mine all vacced for this very reason.. just in case!
:)
> >
> > Glad Natasha is feeling better!
> >
> > Stacey :)
>
> Well, I can share many stories from the other side of the fence where the
> over-vaccinations have caused the problems and cats get sick, lifelong
> health problems, or die. But I don't want to start a debate ;) I strongly
> believe it's just about carefully reading about *both*, and choosing
"what's
> the greatest risk? Potential problems from vaccinations or escaping and
> encountering an ill cat". And yes, you're right - there's a risk not
> vaccinating, but there is also a risk from vaccinating.
>
> Personally, none of my cats are vaccinated after kittenhood... just in
> case!! Even if there was a legal thing here, I wouldn't. I look my vet in
> the eye, tell them I've read all about vaccines and have chosen not to do
> vaccinate after kittenhood. And after 3 years, I've finally found the
first
> vet who believes the same as me (in a "western" veterinary, no less).
>
> I fully realize it's a personal decision, and I'm in no position to
preach.
> I only encourage people to read about the harm vaccinations can do as well
> in their decision making, because most vets won't educate you on that. Bad
> business decision. I've had the seemingly best, kindest vets adamently
> denounce that there's a single problem with vaccinating cats (and there
> certainly is, even without opinion getting in the way). IMHO, I find that
> atrocious. Therefore, I find personal education is the key, taking into
> consideration the age, health, location of your cat as well as their
history
> of vaccines.
>
> Jen.
>
>

My Egbert will be 14 in December. The last couple of time he has gotten his
shots, the hair has fallen out around the injection site and he has acted
like he was sick for a couple of days. I brought this up at the vets during
his last annual exam. The vet suggested a cortisone (I hoped I spelled that
correct) shot. He didn't have any problems.

--
-Kim

owned by Egbert, Niobe, Sekhar and Rocket

one cat just leads to another...