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Rock Master
July 14th 16, 06:58 AM
What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the kitchen she will get back on the counter top again

John Doe[_2_]
July 14th 16, 08:21 AM
Rock Master > wrote:

> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her
> laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the
> kitchen she will get back on the counter top again

Simple and very effective solution. Upside down packaging tape. Then you
get to play her rescuer... "Awww, let me help remove that awful
packaging tape!"

It's the most effective and least stress inducing correction there is.
Since you are (in their minds) not the cause, it is almost stress-free.

Always better to modify their environment. Direct confrontation causes
stress, use it with caution. And the reason is because they are captive.
Try to treat them good enough so they would want to stay there if given
an option.

Zob
July 15th 16, 10:29 AM
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:21:34 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
> wrote:

>Rock Master > wrote:
>
>> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her
>> laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the
>> kitchen she will get back on the counter top again
>
>Simple and very effective solution. Upside down packaging tape. Then you
>get to play her rescuer... "Awww, let me help remove that awful
>packaging tape!"
>

Great idea! I'm going to put upside-down packaging tape on my
counters, my dining room table, my refrigerator, my desk, my
bookcases, my... ;-D

Zob
July 15th 16, 10:30 AM
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 05:29:13 -0400, Zob > wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:21:34 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
> wrote:
>
>>Rock Master > wrote:
>>
>>> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her
>>> laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the
>>> kitchen she will get back on the counter top again
>>
>>Simple and very effective solution. Upside down packaging tape. Then you
>>get to play her rescuer... "Awww, let me help remove that awful
>>packaging tape!"
>>
>
>Great idea! I'm going to put upside-down packaging tape on my
>counters, my dining room table, my refrigerator, my desk, my
>bookcases, my... ;-D

p.s. My cat's name is "Minnie," but I'm sure she thinks her name is,
"Minnie get down OFF of there!"

John Doe[_2_]
July 15th 16, 11:46 AM
Zob > wrote:

> John Doe > wrote:
>> Rock Master > wrote:
>>
>>> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her
>>> laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the
>>> kitchen she will get back on the counter top again
>>
>> Simple and very effective solution. Upside down packaging tape. Then
>> you get to play her rescuer... "Awww, let me help remove that awful
>> packaging tape!"
>
> Great idea! I'm going to put upside-down packaging tape on my
> counters, my dining room table, my refrigerator, my desk, my
> bookcases, my... ;-D

Thanks. They do need things to climb on. Mine have a "Skyway" that
includes several 1x4s. The crosswise boards don't need a covering in my
experience.

An easy way to make a ramp is to use 1/4 inch thick recycled car tire
rubber cut in a strip and then hot melt glued to a 1x4. They have been
using those since Mar 2015 and even though the rubber has been roughened
on the surface it has yet to shed anything on the carpet below.

The easiest effort would be to stick the rubber on a 1 x 4 or maybe a 2
x 4 (since heavier wood would be more stable when not tacked down) and
lean it against the corner of a room. Even without a platform at the
top, eventually they might start using it when they play. Likely they
will use it for claw/leg exercise (like a scratch post). The recycled
car tire rubber mat works very well for climbing.

Zob
July 16th 16, 02:30 AM
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:46:26 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
> wrote:

>Zob > wrote:
>
>> John Doe > wrote:
>>> Rock Master > wrote:
>>>
>>>> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her
>>>> laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the
>>>> kitchen she will get back on the counter top again
>>>
>>> Simple and very effective solution. Upside down packaging tape. Then
>>> you get to play her rescuer... "Awww, let me help remove that awful
>>> packaging tape!"
>>
>> Great idea! I'm going to put upside-down packaging tape on my
>> counters, my dining room table, my refrigerator, my desk, my
>> bookcases, my... ;-D
>
>Thanks. They do need things to climb on.

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/zobva1/41h24bEGRcL._SL500_AA300__zpsz8susorx.jpg

obsidianjg
July 16th 16, 12:10 PM
On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 5:30:16 AM UTC-4, Zob wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:21:34 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
> > wrote:
>
> >Rock Master wrote:
> >
> >> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her
> >> laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the
> >> kitchen she will get back on the counter top again
> >
> >Simple and very effective solution. Upside down packaging tape. Then you
> >get to play her rescuer... "Awww, let me help remove that awful
> >packaging tape!"
> >
>
> Great idea! I'm going to put upside-down packaging tape on my
> counters, my dining room table, my refrigerator, my desk, my
> bookcases, my... ;-D

In your case I would say, pick and choose your battles. In my experience cats understand locations. They get if if they are not allowed on the counter or the table in the kitchen. But you can't teach them to understand that not using the table in the kitchen means ALL tables.

The easiest way for me to get them off my book cases was to fill them with books or heavy knickknacks, they can't throw off easily. For the counter tops, upside down tape and some tin cans with buttons worked wonders.

Also, never leave any leftover food on the counter. The temptation is just too strong. They smell it, even if you think they would not like it.

My2Kitties
July 17th 16, 09:05 AM
The only packing tape types I can think of, will not lie flat. They'd curl and stick to themselves. The ones I'm thinking of are the clear or brown thin-plastic wrapping tapes, and then of course duct tape. How do those of you who use reverse packing tape go about using it? What type of tape?

My2Kitties
July 17th 16, 09:07 AM
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Mark Carroll[_2_]
July 17th 16, 03:41 PM
On 17 Jul 2016, My2Kitties wrote:

> The only packing tape types I can think of, will not lie flat. They'd
> curl and stick to themselves. The ones I'm thinking of are the clear or
> brown thin-plastic wrapping tapes, and then of course duct tape. How do
> those of you who use reverse packing tape go about using it? What type
> of tape?

I can't answer your actual question, but one thing that does work is to
make little circular loops of tape with the sticky side outward.

-- Mark

My2Kitties
July 17th 16, 07:30 PM
;823238']On 17 Jul 2016, My2Kitties wrote:

The only packing tape types I can think of, will not lie flat. They'd
curl and stick to themselves. The ones I'm thinking of are the clear or
brown thin-plastic wrapping tapes, and then of course duct tape. How do
those of you who use reverse packing tape go about using it? What type
of tape?

I can't answer your actual question, but one thing that does work is to
make little circular loops of tape with the sticky side outward.

-- Mark

Thank you Mark. It sounds like loops work for you. The question I have is, if I put sticky tape -- either loops or flat -- on the counter and table top, how can I use the counter myself? If the sticky tape is all over it.

Mark Carroll[_2_]
July 18th 16, 08:04 AM
On 17 Jul 2016, My2Kitties wrote:

> Thank you Mark. It sounds like loops work for you. The question I have
> is, if I put sticky tape -- either loops or flat -- on the counter and
> table top, how can I use the counter myself? If the sticky tape is all
> over it.

It doesn't have to be all over it, it just has to be where it'll get in
the cat's way, especially where the cat will want to jump to but can't
see it from below.

-- Mark

My2Kitties
July 18th 16, 08:00 PM
;823238']On 17 Jul 2016, My2Kitties wrote:

The only packing tape types I can think of, will not lie flat. They'd
curl and stick to themselves. The ones I'm thinking of are the clear or
brown thin-plastic wrapping tapes, and then of course duct tape. How do
those of you who use reverse packing tape go about using it? What type
of tape?

I can't answer your actual question, but one thing that does work is to
make little circular loops of tape with the sticky side outward.

-- Mark

Hi Mark, thanks for the explanation...I can see this would work IF the cat were jumping from below. But my cat can see where she wants to go. She has been able to find a "path" around every form of barrier I've tried -- aluminum foil on the counter; metal backing pans blocking -- I THOUGHT -- every potential avenue of access. She was able to step over or around all that. So she'd be bound to walk around the tape loops, too. I have ordered a ssscat device. The one I bought is apparently defective, so the ssscat company is sending a replacement. I hope that will solve the problem. These are expensive.

MaryL[_2_]
July 19th 16, 11:43 AM
On 7/14/2016 12:58 AM, Rock Master wrote:
> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the kitchen she will get back on the counter top again
>
Years ago, my sister "thought" she had succeeded in teaching her cat not
to get on the kitchen counter top. Then she glanced at the kitchen
window one day as she was returning home and saw her cat quickly jump
down from the counter. By the time she entered the house, her cat
approached her while stretching and yawning. It seems that her cat had
simply learned a way to trick her into *thinking* that my sister had
succeeded. I think my sister gave up after that and simply cleaned the
counter very well before using it to prepare food.

MaryL

John Doe[_2_]
July 19th 16, 03:40 PM
Zob > wrote:

> John Doe
> > wrote:
>>Rock Master > wrote:
>>
>>> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her
>>> laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the
>>> kitchen she will get back on the counter top again
>>
>> Simple and very effective solution. Upside down packaging tape. Then you
>> get to play her rescuer... "Awww, let me help remove that awful
>> packaging tape!"
>
> Great idea! I'm going to put upside-down packaging tape on my
> counters, my dining room table, my refrigerator, my desk, my
> bookcases, my... ;-D

Also... It usually takes two or three encounters with the packaging tape,
and then it stops cold.

(PeteCresswell)
July 19th 16, 04:00 PM
Per MaryL:
>Years ago, my sister "thought" she had succeeded in teaching her cat not
>to get on the kitchen counter top. Then she glanced at the kitchen
>window one day as she was returning home and saw her cat quickly jump
>down from the counter. By the time she entered the house, her cat
>approached her while stretching and yawning. It seems that her cat had
>simply learned a way to trick her into *thinking* that my sister had
>succeeded.

My impression has always been that dogs are capable of feeling guilt and
cats are not.

My wife thinks she has the cat trained to not get up on the kitchen
table, but actually she has it trained to not get up on the kitchen
table and to get off quickly when it hears somebody approaching.\

OTOH, a dog can be taught to do/not do things even when the owner is not
around - not accepting food from strangers, for instance.
--
Pete Cresswell

Mack A. Damia
July 19th 16, 04:10 PM
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:00:45 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" >
wrote:

>Per MaryL:
>>Years ago, my sister "thought" she had succeeded in teaching her cat not
>>to get on the kitchen counter top. Then she glanced at the kitchen
>>window one day as she was returning home and saw her cat quickly jump
>>down from the counter. By the time she entered the house, her cat
>>approached her while stretching and yawning. It seems that her cat had
>>simply learned a way to trick her into *thinking* that my sister had
>>succeeded.
>
>My impression has always been that dogs are capable of feeling guilt and
>cats are not.

Not so much guilt, but they can sense the feelings of those who love
them, and they don't like negative vibes.

Cats sense it too, but most of the time they don't care.

>My wife thinks she has the cat trained to not get up on the kitchen
>table, but actually she has it trained to not get up on the kitchen
>table and to get off quickly when it hears somebody approaching.\

I have a kitchen ensuite and the main one is upstairs. I have never
had a problem with my two cats except the one off my bedroom has a
garden window, and Pookie liked to jump on the counter to access and
sleep in the window. The solution was to put a decorative screen over
the lower half of the window.

Kitty litter on the cutting board wasn't my thing.

(PeteCresswell)
July 19th 16, 05:20 PM
Per (PeteCresswell):
> but actually she has it trained to not get up on the kitchen
>table and

Shb ...but actually she has it trained not to get up on the kitchen
table when anybody is around and....
--
Pete Cresswell

mark[_3_]
July 24th 16, 02:49 AM
Rock Master > Wrote in message:
> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the kitchen she will get back on the counter top again
>

Lol use a water bottle :)
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John Doe[_2_]
July 24th 16, 06:54 AM
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> Rock Master > Wrote in message:
>> What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her laying
on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the kitchen she will
get back on the counter top again
>>
>
> Lol use a water bottle :)

You have no idea how to manage cats.

My2Kitties
August 14th 16, 10:15 AM
What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the kitchen she will get back on the counter top again

We are making progress. Thanks to those of you who recommended tape loops. The kitchen counter top is/was accessible from the living room and from the kitchen in my apartment. (There is a bar area between the two rooms.) I bought a two-piece cat fence and that blocks most of the access from the living room. Half of the fence on each end of the bar. Between the two fence pieces is a computer printer. I keep a towel over it to keep dust off. When I''m in the kitchen Ebony likes to sit there and sneak down onto the counter while I am preparing food. So I took a big cloth napkin that covers the top of the printer towel. I put loops of clear packaging tape, sticky side out, and stuck the loops on the napkin. Did the trick! Ebony has tried to touch the napkin tape loop with her paw, which she hates. She also tried to bite the tape,and didn't like to do that either. So access from the living room to the kitchen counter is totally blocked now. What remains is if she jumps onto the counter from the kitchen floor. I hope to make some sort of clicker command that will alleviate the problem there. See my new thread "Clicker Training" to discuss.

A.J. Schepis
November 1st 16, 03:33 AM
What should i do to keep the cat off the counter top i caught her laying on it many times i make her get down but when i leave the kitchen she will get back on the counter top again

I don't know how to put this in a P.C. way, but "on top of things" are the cats' natural place to be, if you want to allow them to be a cat. That is where they feel safe. Try laying face up on the kitchen floor with your hands on the floor too and have people stepping all around you to get an idea of what it's like down there. Add or allow room on additional shelves around for them to perch on - give them an alternative. I've always allowed my cats (had 17 in the past 20 years) to be anywhere they want including the counters, and my life hasn't diminished in the slightest. Actually it's better as I allow them to know it's their home too and everyone is happy. Just wipe the counter more often, but know also that we and our "germ-fighters" are more of a threat to them too. A warm, damp cloth and a drop of Dawn dish soap is sufficient.

I see so many complaints about cats being cats, I wonder why those people have them in the first place.