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dgk
September 22nd 16, 03:39 AM
Marlo went to the vet yesterday and the vet somewhat reluctantly
allowed me to remove Marlo's soft Elizabethean coller - the blue
dress. He wasn't thrilled with the level of fur regrowth on her
abdomen but figured that because the probable cause of the
overgrooming was anxiety over the feral at my house, Marlo might be ok
since she's in a different environment.

When we took her back to Mom's house, she did start licking at her
abdomen but then started licking all over. She hasn't been able to
groom herself for over a month because of the collar so it makes sense
that she's cleaning all of her fur. But she doesn't seem to be
overgrooming her abdomen so we're cautiously optimistic that she will
return to normal grooming.

Of course, this is while she's over at Mom's. The plan is to
eventually bring her back to my house but there is no immediate move
to do so. She seems to be happy at Mom's and Mom is happy with her. Of
course, now that she's licking herself, a hairball is certainly a
possibility and if she drops a messy on in the middle of Mom's living
room rug, that could speed up the timetable.

The appointment with the behavioral specialist is rapidly approaching
(early October) and I don't know whether to keep it or not. The
immediate problem is solved but once I re-introduce her to the cats at
my house, maybe it will come back. I'll probably go through with it
just to get a professional opinion on what to do next.

The New Other Guy
September 22nd 16, 06:26 AM
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:39:48 -0400, dgk > wrote:

>Marlo went to the vet yesterday and the vet somewhat reluctantly
>allowed me to remove Marlo's soft Elizabethean coller - the blue
>dress. He wasn't thrilled with the level of fur regrowth on her
>abdomen but figured that because the probable cause of the
>overgrooming was anxiety over the feral at my house, Marlo might be ok
>since she's in a different environment.
>
>When we took her back to Mom's house, she did start licking at her
>abdomen but then started licking all over. She hasn't been able to
>groom herself for over a month because of the collar so it makes sense
>that she's cleaning all of her fur. But she doesn't seem to be
>overgrooming her abdomen so we're cautiously optimistic that she will
>return to normal grooming.
>
>Of course, this is while she's over at Mom's. The plan is to
>eventually bring her back to my house

It's great that she is acting normally now,
and it's NOT our place to tell you what to do,
but I think it's the general consensus that
Marlo would be better served by staying with
your Mom, and it seems your Mom might be too.

That, OR rehome the feral.

It's only fair that Marlo NOT be subject to
an invasion of her space if she doesn't want it.

jmcquown[_2_]
September 23rd 16, 02:39 PM
On 9/22/2016 1:26 AM, The New Other Guy wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:39:48 -0400, dgk > wrote:
>
>> Marlo went to the vet yesterday and the vet somewhat reluctantly
>> allowed me to remove Marlo's soft Elizabethean coller - the blue
>> dress. He wasn't thrilled with the level of fur regrowth on her
>> abdomen but figured that because the probable cause of the
>> overgrooming was anxiety over the feral at my house, Marlo might be ok
>> since she's in a different environment.
>>
>> When we took her back to Mom's house, she did start licking at her
>> abdomen but then started licking all over. She hasn't been able to
>> groom herself for over a month because of the collar so it makes sense
>> that she's cleaning all of her fur. But she doesn't seem to be
>> overgrooming her abdomen so we're cautiously optimistic that she will
>> return to normal grooming.
>>
>> Of course, this is while she's over at Mom's. The plan is to
>> eventually bring her back to my house
>
> It's great that she is acting normally now,
> and it's NOT our place to tell you what to do,
> but I think it's the general consensus that
> Marlo would be better served by staying with
> your Mom, and it seems your Mom might be too.
>
> That, OR rehome the feral.
>
> It's only fair that Marlo NOT be subject to
> an invasion of her space if she doesn't want it.
>
Agreed. If Mom and Marlo get along and Marlo's skin condition is
improving without the stress, I'd leave Marlo with Mom. My 2 cents.

Before I adopted Buffy I was told she was very shy and hid all the time.
There was another cat in the house that bullied her. Once she didn't
have to worry about another cat she quickly came out of her shell.
She's a regular love bug. :)

Jill

Bastette
September 23rd 16, 09:23 PM
dgk wrote:

> Marlo went to the vet yesterday and the vet somewhat reluctantly
> allowed me to remove Marlo's soft Elizabethean coller - the blue
> dress. He wasn't thrilled with the level of fur regrowth on her
> abdomen but figured that because the probable cause of the
> overgrooming was anxiety over the feral at my house, Marlo might be ok
> since she's in a different environment.

> When we took her back to Mom's house, she did start licking at her
> abdomen but then started licking all over. She hasn't been able to
> groom herself for over a month because of the collar so it makes sense
> that she's cleaning all of her fur. But she doesn't seem to be
> overgrooming her abdomen so we're cautiously optimistic that she will
> return to normal grooming.

> Of course, this is while she's over at Mom's. The plan is to
> eventually bring her back to my house but there is no immediate move
> to do so. She seems to be happy at Mom's and Mom is happy with her. Of
> course, now that she's licking herself, a hairball is certainly a
> possibility and if she drops a messy on in the middle of Mom's living
> room rug, that could speed up the timetable.

> The appointment with the behavioral specialist is rapidly approaching
> (early October) and I don't know whether to keep it or not. The
> immediate problem is solved but once I re-introduce her to the cats at
> my house, maybe it will come back. I'll probably go through with it
> just to get a professional opinion on what to do next.

I would definitely keep the appointment with the behaviorist. They
might have some good advice for you, if you decide to take Marlo back
to your house. But I'm with the others who think that your mom's is
the best environment for her. Are you afraid your mom won't want to
keep her if she coughs up hairballs or makes other messes? Because from
here it sounds like they are a match made in heaven.

--
Joyce

He spent one-third of the time telling me about the musical he was writing about raccoons, one-third of the time talking about C++, and one-third of the time demonstrating the plot of Othello using the salt and pepper shakers.
-- A Treasury of the World's Worst Online Dating Stories

jmcquown[_2_]
September 23rd 16, 09:57 PM
On 9/23/2016 4:23 PM, Bastette wrote:
> dgk wrote:
>
> > Marlo went to the vet yesterday and the vet somewhat reluctantly
> > allowed me to remove Marlo's soft Elizabethean coller - the blue
> > dress. He wasn't thrilled with the level of fur regrowth on her
> > abdomen but figured that because the probable cause of the
> > overgrooming was anxiety over the feral at my house, Marlo might be ok
> > since she's in a different environment.
>
> > When we took her back to Mom's house, she did start licking at her
> > abdomen but then started licking all over. She hasn't been able to
> > groom herself for over a month because of the collar so it makes sense
> > that she's cleaning all of her fur. But she doesn't seem to be
> > overgrooming her abdomen so we're cautiously optimistic that she will
> > return to normal grooming.
>
> > Of course, this is while she's over at Mom's. The plan is to
> > eventually bring her back to my house but there is no immediate move
> > to do so. She seems to be happy at Mom's and Mom is happy with her. Of
> > course, now that she's licking herself, a hairball is certainly a
> > possibility and if she drops a messy on in the middle of Mom's living
> > room rug, that could speed up the timetable.
>
> > The appointment with the behavioral specialist is rapidly approaching
> > (early October) and I don't know whether to keep it or not. The
> > immediate problem is solved but once I re-introduce her to the cats at
> > my house, maybe it will come back. I'll probably go through with it
> > just to get a professional opinion on what to do next.
>
> I would definitely keep the appointment with the behaviorist. They
> might have some good advice for you, if you decide to take Marlo back
> to your house. But I'm with the others who think that your mom's is
> the best environment for her. Are you afraid your mom won't want to
> keep her if she coughs up hairballs or makes other messes? Because from
> here it sounds like they are a match made in heaven.
>
I have to agree with this. Persia used to hork up hairballs but Buffy
has never done that. I realize Marlo has been over grooming but it
sounds like stress from the other cats. I would leave him with Mom if
she's agreeable. I'm sure she can deal with an occasional hairball.

Jill

dgk
September 23rd 16, 11:26 PM
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:39:48 -0400, dgk > wrote:

>Marlo went to the vet yesterday and the vet somewhat reluctantly
>allowed me to remove Marlo's soft Elizabethean coller - the blue
>dress. He wasn't thrilled with the level of fur regrowth on her
>abdomen but figured that because the probable cause of the
>overgrooming was anxiety over the feral at my house, Marlo might be ok
>since she's in a different environment.
>
>When we took her back to Mom's house, she did start licking at her
>abdomen but then started licking all over. She hasn't been able to
>groom herself for over a month because of the collar so it makes sense
>that she's cleaning all of her fur. But she doesn't seem to be
>overgrooming her abdomen so we're cautiously optimistic that she will
>return to normal grooming.
>
>Of course, this is while she's over at Mom's. The plan is to
>eventually bring her back to my house but there is no immediate move
>to do so. She seems to be happy at Mom's and Mom is happy with her. Of
>course, now that she's licking herself, a hairball is certainly a
>possibility and if she drops a messy on in the middle of Mom's living
>room rug, that could speed up the timetable.
>
>The appointment with the behavioral specialist is rapidly approaching
>(early October) and I don't know whether to keep it or not. The
>immediate problem is solved but once I re-introduce her to the cats at
>my house, maybe it will come back. I'll probably go through with it
>just to get a professional opinion on what to do next.

Thanks everyone. Yes, I am a bit concerned about a big hairball in the
middle of mom's nice blue rug, but it has been known to happen. I just
had a (no kidding) 10 foot vomit trail. I had a video but accidently
deleted it and I'm waiting for a good cheap recovery program. Still,
I've had cats for over 30 years and never saw anything like it.

Marlo, of course, will be dainty about it. A nice little clump,
hopefully fairly dry. Maybe she won't mess at all; I am trying to
brush her every day.

Mom refuses to allow Marlo on her bed and locked her out of the
bedroom last night. I told her Imom) that she's being silly but it's
only a twin bed so there isn't a whole lot of room. Of course, mom is
pretty bony so there should be some place Marlo could fit. We'll see
how that plays out!

MaryL[_2_]
September 24th 16, 08:15 AM
On 9/23/2016 5:26 PM, dgk wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:39:48 -0400, dgk > wrote:
>
>> Marlo went to the vet yesterday and the vet somewhat reluctantly
>> allowed me to remove Marlo's soft Elizabethean coller - the blue
>> dress. He wasn't thrilled with the level of fur regrowth on her
>> abdomen but figured that because the probable cause of the
>> overgrooming was anxiety over the feral at my house, Marlo might be ok
>> since she's in a different environment.
>>
>> When we took her back to Mom's house, she did start licking at her
>> abdomen but then started licking all over. She hasn't been able to
>> groom herself for over a month because of the collar so it makes sense
>> that she's cleaning all of her fur. But she doesn't seem to be
>> overgrooming her abdomen so we're cautiously optimistic that she will
>> return to normal grooming.
>>
>> Of course, this is while she's over at Mom's. The plan is to
>> eventually bring her back to my house but there is no immediate move
>> to do so. She seems to be happy at Mom's and Mom is happy with her. Of
>> course, now that she's licking herself, a hairball is certainly a
>> possibility and if she drops a messy on in the middle of Mom's living
>> room rug, that could speed up the timetable.
>>
>> The appointment with the behavioral specialist is rapidly approaching
>> (early October) and I don't know whether to keep it or not. The
>> immediate problem is solved but once I re-introduce her to the cats at
>> my house, maybe it will come back. I'll probably go through with it
>> just to get a professional opinion on what to do next.
>
> Thanks everyone. Yes, I am a bit concerned about a big hairball in the
> middle of mom's nice blue rug, but it has been known to happen. I just
> had a (no kidding) 10 foot vomit trail. I had a video but accidently
> deleted it and I'm waiting for a good cheap recovery program. Still,
> I've had cats for over 30 years and never saw anything like it.
>
> Marlo, of course, will be dainty about it. A nice little clump,
> hopefully fairly dry. Maybe she won't mess at all; I am trying to
> brush her every day.
>
> Mom refuses to allow Marlo on her bed and locked her out of the
> bedroom last night. I told her Imom) that she's being silly but it's
> only a twin bed so there isn't a whole lot of room. Of course, mom is
> pretty bony so there should be some place Marlo could fit. We'll see
> how that plays out!
>
>

I enjoy having my cats sleep with me, but some people do not. It sounds
like your mom fits that category. I suggest that you not try to force
your mom to let Marlo in her bedroom. It sounds like she and Marlo are
getting along well, so it's best not to make either of them
uncomfortable by trying force changes. I'm really pleased to hear about
how well Marlo is doing now and to hear about how she and your mother
are getting along together.

MaryL

jmcquown[_2_]
September 24th 16, 02:41 PM
On 9/24/2016 3:15 AM, MaryL wrote:
> On 9/23/2016 5:26 PM, dgk wrote:
>> Mom refuses to allow Marlo on her bed and locked her out of the
>> bedroom last night. I told her Imom) that she's being silly but it's
>> only a twin bed so there isn't a whole lot of room. Of course, mom is
>> pretty bony so there should be some place Marlo could fit. We'll see
>> how that plays out!
>
> I enjoy having my cats sleep with me, but some people do not. It sounds
> like your mom fits that category. I suggest that you not try to force
> your mom to let Marlo in her bedroom. It sounds like she and Marlo are
> getting along well, so it's best not to make either of them
> uncomfortable by trying force changes. I'm really pleased to hear about
> how well Marlo is doing now and to hear about how she and your mother
> are getting along together.
>
> MaryL
>
I agree, Mary, no need to try to change things up. Marlo will find a
comfy spot to sleep. Buffy sometimes sleeps with me but not always.
The size of the bed doesn't seem to matter. I'm convinced cats increase
in density at night. LOL

I have a king size bed but when she decides to sleep with me I still
find myself being squeezed into one little spot. :)

As for hairballs... Persia (RB) was always horking up hairballs. We all
know that sound, don't we? Uh oh! She always did have a delicate stomach.

Buffy is an exception. She has very thick fur for a DSH and she sheds
like crazy. The Furminator is a great tool for getting all that excess
fur. Yet, to date, she has never coughed up a hairball. Go figure.

Jill

Tigger[_2_]
September 25th 16, 06:02 AM
jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/24/2016 3:15 AM, MaryL wrote:
>> On 9/23/2016 5:26 PM, dgk wrote:
>>> Mom refuses to allow Marlo on her bed and locked her out of the
>>> bedroom last night. I told her Imom) that she's being silly but it's
>>> only a twin bed so there isn't a whole lot of room. Of course, mom is
>>> pretty bony so there should be some place Marlo could fit. We'll see
>>> how that plays out!
>>
>> I enjoy having my cats sleep with me, but some people do not. It sounds
>> like your mom fits that category. I suggest that you not try to force
>> your mom to let Marlo in her bedroom. It sounds like she and Marlo are
>> getting along well, so it's best not to make either of them
>> uncomfortable by trying force changes. I'm really pleased to hear about
>> how well Marlo is doing now and to hear about how she and your mother
>> are getting along together.
>>
>> MaryL
>>
> I agree, Mary, no need to try to change things up. Marlo will find a
> comfy spot to sleep. Buffy sometimes sleeps with me but not always. The
> size of the bed doesn't seem to matter. I'm convinced cats increase in
> density at night. LOL

Their body heat reaches supernova levels. The area under them can get
extremely warm, and if mine is nestled in the crook of my legs, I almost
have to make him move.

Jack Campin
September 26th 16, 01:45 AM
>> Buffy sometimes sleeps with me but not always. The size of the bed
>> doesn't seem to matter. I'm convinced cats increase in density at
>> night.
> Their body heat reaches supernova levels. The area under them can
> get extremely warm, and if mine is nestled in the crook of my legs,
> I almost have to make him move.

I think they go into some quantum state at night where they are
snuggled into three places in the bed simultaneously so you end
up contorted into a Z with your arm up the wall to make room for
just one of them.

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Bastette
September 26th 16, 10:54 PM
Tigger wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 9/24/2016 3:15 AM, MaryL wrote:
>>> On 9/23/2016 5:26 PM, dgk wrote:
>>>> Mom refuses to allow Marlo on her bed and locked her out of the
>>>> bedroom last night. I told her Imom) that she's being silly but it's
>>>> only a twin bed so there isn't a whole lot of room. Of course, mom is
>>>> pretty bony so there should be some place Marlo could fit. We'll see
>>>> how that plays out!
>>>
>>> I enjoy having my cats sleep with me, but some people do not. It sounds
>>> like your mom fits that category. I suggest that you not try to force
>>> your mom to let Marlo in her bedroom. It sounds like she and Marlo are
>>> getting along well, so it's best not to make either of them
>>> uncomfortable by trying force changes. I'm really pleased to hear about
>>> how well Marlo is doing now and to hear about how she and your mother
>>> are getting along together.
>>>
>>> MaryL
>>>
>> I agree, Mary, no need to try to change things up. Marlo will find a
>> comfy spot to sleep. Buffy sometimes sleeps with me but not always. The
>> size of the bed doesn't seem to matter. I'm convinced cats increase in
>> density at night. LOL

> Their body heat reaches supernova levels. The area under them can get
> extremely warm, and if mine is nestled in the crook of my legs, I almost
> have to make him move.

Depends on what time of year it is. Right now we're in a heat wave, so
yeah, I feel the same way. But on chilly nights, the unlimited source of
warmth that is a cat is quite welcome.

--
Joyce

Socialism never took root in America because the poor see
themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily
embarassed millionaires.
--John Steinbeck

The New Other Guy
September 27th 16, 12:24 AM
On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:54:51 -0000 (UTC), Bastette >
wrote:

> >> I agree, Mary, no need to try to change things up. Marlo will find a
> >> comfy spot to sleep. Buffy sometimes sleeps with me but not always. The
> >> size of the bed doesn't seem to matter. I'm convinced cats increase in
> >> density at night. LOL
>
> > Their body heat reaches supernova levels. The area under them can get
> > extremely warm, and if mine is nestled in the crook of my legs, I almost
> > have to make him move.
>
>Depends on what time of year it is. Right now we're in a heat wave, so
>yeah, I feel the same way. But on chilly nights, the unlimited source of
>warmth that is a cat is quite welcome.

GLyN seldom sleeps on the bed, with OR without me,
and when he does, it's usually because it's cold or
raining.

Recently, we had a 'cooler' night, temps got below 60
for the first time in maybe 6 months, so he DID decide
he could spend a few hours napping with me.

But now, just days later, it's 100 daytime and mid 70s
at night, so not seeing a lot of him except when he's
hungry.

Tigger[_2_]
September 27th 16, 02:26 AM
Bastette wrote:
> Tigger wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 9/24/2016 3:15 AM, MaryL wrote:
> >>> On 9/23/2016 5:26 PM, dgk wrote:
> >>>> Mom refuses to allow Marlo on her bed and locked her out of the
> >>>> bedroom last night. I told her Imom) that she's being silly but it's
> >>>> only a twin bed so there isn't a whole lot of room. Of course, mom is
> >>>> pretty bony so there should be some place Marlo could fit. We'll see
> >>>> how that plays out!
> >>>
> >>> I enjoy having my cats sleep with me, but some people do not. It sounds
> >>> like your mom fits that category. I suggest that you not try to force
> >>> your mom to let Marlo in her bedroom. It sounds like she and Marlo are
> >>> getting along well, so it's best not to make either of them
> >>> uncomfortable by trying force changes. I'm really pleased to hear about
> >>> how well Marlo is doing now and to hear about how she and your mother
> >>> are getting along together.
> >>>
> >>> MaryL
> >>>
> >> I agree, Mary, no need to try to change things up. Marlo will find a
> >> comfy spot to sleep. Buffy sometimes sleeps with me but not always. The
> >> size of the bed doesn't seem to matter. I'm convinced cats increase in
> >> density at night. LOL
>
> > Their body heat reaches supernova levels. The area under them can get
> > extremely warm, and if mine is nestled in the crook of my legs, I almost
> > have to make him move.
>
> Depends on what time of year it is. Right now we're in a heat wave, so
> yeah, I feel the same way. But on chilly nights, the unlimited source of
> warmth that is a cat is quite welcome.

True that.

dgk
September 29th 16, 03:16 AM
On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 01:45:41 +0100, Jack Campin
> wrote:

>>> Buffy sometimes sleeps with me but not always. The size of the bed
>>> doesn't seem to matter. I'm convinced cats increase in density at
>>> night.
>> Their body heat reaches supernova levels. The area under them can
>> get extremely warm, and if mine is nestled in the crook of my legs,
>> I almost have to make him move.
>
>I think they go into some quantum state at night where they are
>snuggled into three places in the bed simultaneously so you end
>up contorted into a Z with your arm up the wall to make room for
>just one of them.
>
>

Oh, they don't have to do any advanced physics. You just need to have
enough cats. Nipsy sleeps on my right side, Scooter is on the left.
Marlo (still on vacation at Mom's house) sleeps between my legs.
That's pretty well wedged in.

Actually, Marlo hasn't really been sleeping between my legs since
moving from the old house. Being in Florida now, she doesn't really
need the extra heat. But I reserve that spot for her just in case she
decides that she wants it back.