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John Kasupski
February 10th 17, 01:38 AM
Minnie is going to the vet tomorrow to be spayed, get her shots, and be
microchipped. It'll be her first time ever going to a vet so I don't expect her
to be happy about it. I hope she won't hate me forever after we get home.

She'll get plenty of attention if she'll tolerate it, and I won't be too proud
to resort to bribery - for which purpose I've got three different kinds of kitty
treats and a bag of catnip in a kitchen cupboard.

Any additional advice from fellow ailurophiles who have successfully convinced
their cat not to hold a grudge after a trip to the vet is appreciated.

John D. Kasupski
Niagara Falls, NY

Joy[_3_]
February 10th 17, 02:22 AM
On 2/9/2017 4:38 PM, John Kasupski wrote:
>
> Minnie is going to the vet tomorrow to be spayed, get her shots, and be
> microchipped. It'll be her first time ever going to a vet so I don't expect her
> to be happy about it. I hope she won't hate me forever after we get home.
>
> She'll get plenty of attention if she'll tolerate it, and I won't be too proud
> to resort to bribery - for which purpose I've got three different kinds of kitty
> treats and a bag of catnip in a kitchen cupboard.
>
> Any additional advice from fellow ailurophiles who have successfully convinced
> their cat not to hold a grudge after a trip to the vet is appreciated.
>
> John D. Kasupski
> Niagara Falls, NY
>

Just don't give up. Most of the cats I've known have gotten over it
fairly quickly. I think it depends partly on how happy Minnie is with
you now. However, probably part of how long it takes depends on the
personality of the animal. In my experience, pets don't hold grudges.
She may very well punish you at first, but she'll get over it. A
previous cat I had used to punish me for going away on a trip. She'd
hide for the first few hours after I got home. About the time I was
getting serious worried, she would show up, make sure that I saw her,
and sit with her back to me, as far away as she could get and still be
in my line of view. After a while she'd forgive me.

jmcquown[_2_]
February 10th 17, 04:40 PM
On 2/9/2017 7:38 PM, John Kasupski wrote:
>
> Minnie is going to the vet tomorrow to be spayed, get her shots, and be
> microchipped. It'll be her first time ever going to a vet so I don't expect her
> to be happy about it. I hope she won't hate me forever after we get home.
>
> She'll get plenty of attention if she'll tolerate it, and I won't be too proud
> to resort to bribery - for which purpose I've got three different kinds of kitty
> treats and a bag of catnip in a kitchen cupboard.
>
> Any additional advice from fellow ailurophiles who have successfully convinced
> their cat not to hold a grudge after a trip to the vet is appreciated.
>
> John D. Kasupski
> Niagara Falls, NY
>
Cats may not like going to the vet but they don't usually hold a grudge
for very long. The thing is, after just being being spayed she will not
be as active. She will need some time to heal. Give her some space,
talk to her softly.

She'll be fine. You'll both be fine. Just don't try to rush it.

Jill

jmcquown[_2_]
February 10th 17, 04:47 PM
On 2/9/2017 10:10 PM, The Newest Other Guy wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:38:00 -0500, John Kasupski > wrote:
>
>>
>> Minnie is going to the vet tomorrow to be spayed, get her shots, and be
>> microchipped. It'll be her first time ever going to a vet so I don't expect her
>> to be happy about it. I hope she won't hate me forever after we get home.
>>
>> She'll get plenty of attention if she'll tolerate it, and I won't be too proud
>> to resort to bribery - for which purpose I've got three different kinds of kitty
>> treats and a bag of catnip in a kitchen cupboard.
>>
>> Any additional advice from fellow ailurophiles who have successfully convinced
>> their cat not to hold a grudge after a trip to the vet is appreciated.
>
> Just HOPE she will handle it gracefully.
>
> GLyN doesn't like the Vet, but doesn't hold a grudge (mostly).
> And he isn't the slightest bit impressed by cat treats either.
>
> I had an orange cat who loved going ANYWHERE, even the Vet,
> and he had the entire staff wrapped around his paw.
>
There used to be a guy who posted here, Dan, who drove a long-haul truck
for a while. Remember his cat, Harri[et] Roadcat? She loved to ride in
the cab of that truck. Used to get out and walk around on a leash at
truck stops. Everyone loved Harri Roadcat. RIP, sweet girl.

Not all cats like riding in cars. Carriers are usually an indication of
OH NO, pokes and jabs! But I doubt Minnie will hold a grudge for very
long. She will just need a little time to heal after her spay. I'm
sure she'll be back to her normal 7-month old kittenish self in no time.

Jill

Rusty[_2_]
February 11th 17, 08:33 PM
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 10:47:36 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 2/9/2017 10:10 PM, The Newest Other Guy wrote:
> > On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:38:00 -0500, John Kasupski <> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Minnie is going to the vet tomorrow to be spayed, get her shots, and be
> >> microchipped. It'll be her first time ever going to a vet so I don't expect her
> >> to be happy about it. I hope she won't hate me forever after we get home.
> >>
> >> She'll get plenty of attention if she'll tolerate it, and I won't be too proud
> >> to resort to bribery - for which purpose I've got three different kinds of kitty
> >> treats and a bag of catnip in a kitchen cupboard.
> >>
> >> Any additional advice from fellow ailurophiles who have successfully convinced
> >> their cat not to hold a grudge after a trip to the vet is appreciated.
> >
> > Just HOPE she will handle it gracefully.
> >
> > GLyN doesn't like the Vet, but doesn't hold a grudge (mostly).
> > And he isn't the slightest bit impressed by cat treats either.
> >
> > I had an orange cat who loved going ANYWHERE, even the Vet,
> > and he had the entire staff wrapped around his paw.
> >
> There used to be a guy who posted here, Dan, who drove a long-haul truck
> for a while. Remember his cat, Harri[et] Roadcat? She loved to ride in
> the cab of that truck. Used to get out and walk around on a leash at
> truck stops. Everyone loved Harri Roadcat. RIP, sweet girl.
>

Oh yes I remember Dan and Harri Roadcat.
Wonder how the rest of the cats are doing.


Winnie

> Not all cats like riding in cars. Carriers are usually an indication of
> OH NO, pokes and jabs! But I doubt Minnie will hold a grudge for very
> long. She will just need a little time to heal after her spay. I'm
> sure she'll be back to her normal 7-month old kittenish self in no time.
>
> Jill

John Kasupski
February 11th 17, 09:13 PM
On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:38:00 -0500, John Kasupski > wrote:

I did read all the replies I received yesterday afternoon while Minnie was at
the vet's and I was waiting for it to be time to go pick her up. I didn't write
anything back then because I was a nervous wreck worrying about her, and then
last night I was more concerned with keeping an eye on Minnie than anything
else. Thanks to all of you who replied. It meant more to me than I can say,
because...well...

Before yesterday, the last time somebody put Minnie into a carrier and took her
on a long ride somewhere, they left her there and never came back - which was
when her previous owner left her with me...but cats have long memories, and when
Minnie saw the carrier yesterday morning, she got scared and went and hid in her
most secure hiding place under a piece of furniture from where I had to reach in
and remove her against her wishes, which I had never, ever done to her before.

So the last thing I said to her before I handed her over to the vet's assistant
at 7:30 AM was, "I'll be back for you, sweetie, It's okay. I'm coming back. I
promise." Then they ask me...if we find that she's positive for FIV or FeLV do
you want us to just euthanise her?

I almost exploded. They'd just seen me promise my cat that I would be back for
her. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I had broken that promise
- and then let them kill her besides! I managed to keep calm, smile, and say no,
I want her back...she might only live a year or maybe two if we're lucky, but
I'll take whatever time we have together and deal with that when the time comes.

I was a basket case the rest of the day, though. You see, Minnie was part of a
litter of...well, I don't remember now if it was 7 or 9 kittens. I do know that
only Minnie and one other survived, and I was told that the others all came down
with some kind of eye infection before they died. Knowing that conjunctivitis is
one of the symptoms of FIV, I was concerned that the other kittens may have
inherited that virus before birth or been exposed to it soon afterward...and
that Minnie may have been too. So I must admit I was basically terrified all day
yesterday until I went to pick her up and was told she was negative for both.

OK...so she got her rabies and FVRCP shots, the flea protection revolution,
tapeworm injection, got spayed and microchipped, and had her nails trimmed.

When I picked her up at 5:00 PM, they handed her to me, and I looked into the
carrier and talked to her, but even though she was looking at me, she wasn't
really reacting - she was still woozy from the anesthetic and the pain
medication (meloxicam). Once I got her home and put the carrier down on the
klitchen floor, though, she started moving around in there and letting me know
she was definitely ready to come out of that thing. I got her favorite blanket
and put it on the living floor, went back to the kitchen and got the carrier,
brought it in and setit down on the blanket, got down on the blanket on all
fours next to the carrier, and opened the door.

For about three seconds we just laid there making eye contact. Then I said
quietly, "It's okay now, baby. You're back home. I love you."

Minnie immediately came out of the carrier, walked over to my right hand and
licked it a few times, then turned around and took two steps and gave my left
hand equal treatment. Then she walked once around the coffee table, stopping at
each leg to rub her whiskers on it. When she got back to the blanket, I was
there lying with my face on it on the floor so I could see under the coffee
table to watch her in case she fell over due to still feeling the anesthetic and
pain meds. She plopped herself down next to me, put her head on my right hand,
rolled over on her back, reached up with her front paws and gently placed them
on my cheeks with one on each side of my face, licked my nose several times,
then closed her eyes and fell asleep that way.

It took several minutes for me to decide to carefully extricate my hand and face
and give her space so she could sleep off the effects of the day. It seems so
far today that she's harboring no hard feelings about yesterday. She's been
sleeping a lot, but when awake she's been the same affectionate little creature
she's been since the day she first arrived here.

Joy - You wrote in your reply, "I think it depends partly on how happy Minnie is
with you now." If that's the case, I guess I had nothing to worry about.

Jill - You guessed that "after just being being spayed she will not be as
active" - and she has been a lot less rambunctious than she usually is. Oddly
though...out in the kitchen there's a cardboard box with the toys she seldom
plays with anymore since she found those rawhide shoelaces. One of the items in
it was a balled-up empty cigarette pack I'd given her back in November when I'd
just gotten her and didn't have any "real" kitty toys to give her yet. Last
night she took that cigarette pack and went marching all around the house
carrying it in her mouth with Happy Kitty written all over her. She hadn't even
touched the thing for more than a month and I suppose most other people would
have thrown it away by now. I was going to and just never got around to it. Now
it'll probably be months before I'll again consider disposing of it.

"The Newest Other Guy": You said, "I had an orange cat who loved going ANYWHERE,
even the Vet" - I found that interesting because my Goldie (RB) was an orange
cat too, and he seemed to regard it as a personal insult when we went somewhere
and didn't bring him along. We'd come out of the house and he'd be waaay over on
the other side of the yard, but if he saw or heard keys or if we seemed to be
heading anywhere that was even remotely in the direction of the truck, he'd be
already there waiting for us when we got there.

John D. Kasupski
Niagara Falls, NY

Joy[_3_]
February 11th 17, 09:45 PM
On 2/11/2017 12:13 PM, John Kasupski wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:38:00 -0500, John Kasupski > wrote:
>
> I did read all the replies I received yesterday afternoon while Minnie was at
> the vet's and I was waiting for it to be time to go pick her up. I didn't write
> anything back then because I was a nervous wreck worrying about her, and then
> last night I was more concerned with keeping an eye on Minnie than anything
> else. Thanks to all of you who replied. It meant more to me than I can say,
> because...well...
>
> Before yesterday, the last time somebody put Minnie into a carrier and took her
> on a long ride somewhere, they left her there and never came back - which was
> when her previous owner left her with me...but cats have long memories, and when
> Minnie saw the carrier yesterday morning, she got scared and went and hid in her
> most secure hiding place under a piece of furniture from where I had to reach in
> and remove her against her wishes, which I had never, ever done to her before.
>
> So the last thing I said to her before I handed her over to the vet's assistant
> at 7:30 AM was, "I'll be back for you, sweetie, It's okay. I'm coming back. I
> promise." Then they ask me...if we find that she's positive for FIV or FeLV do
> you want us to just euthanise her?
>
> I almost exploded. They'd just seen me promise my cat that I would be back for
> her. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I had broken that promise
> - and then let them kill her besides! I managed to keep calm, smile, and say no,
> I want her back...she might only live a year or maybe two if we're lucky, but
> I'll take whatever time we have together and deal with that when the time comes.
>
> I was a basket case the rest of the day, though. You see, Minnie was part of a
> litter of...well, I don't remember now if it was 7 or 9 kittens. I do know that
> only Minnie and one other survived, and I was told that the others all came down
> with some kind of eye infection before they died. Knowing that conjunctivitis is
> one of the symptoms of FIV, I was concerned that the other kittens may have
> inherited that virus before birth or been exposed to it soon afterward...and
> that Minnie may have been too. So I must admit I was basically terrified all day
> yesterday until I went to pick her up and was told she was negative for both.
>
> OK...so she got her rabies and FVRCP shots, the flea protection revolution,
> tapeworm injection, got spayed and microchipped, and had her nails trimmed.
>
> When I picked her up at 5:00 PM, they handed her to me, and I looked into the
> carrier and talked to her, but even though she was looking at me, she wasn't
> really reacting - she was still woozy from the anesthetic and the pain
> medication (meloxicam). Once I got her home and put the carrier down on the
> klitchen floor, though, she started moving around in there and letting me know
> she was definitely ready to come out of that thing. I got her favorite blanket
> and put it on the living floor, went back to the kitchen and got the carrier,
> brought it in and setit down on the blanket, got down on the blanket on all
> fours next to the carrier, and opened the door.
>
> For about three seconds we just laid there making eye contact. Then I said
> quietly, "It's okay now, baby. You're back home. I love you."
>
> Minnie immediately came out of the carrier, walked over to my right hand and
> licked it a few times, then turned around and took two steps and gave my left
> hand equal treatment. Then she walked once around the coffee table, stopping at
> each leg to rub her whiskers on it. When she got back to the blanket, I was
> there lying with my face on it on the floor so I could see under the coffee
> table to watch her in case she fell over due to still feeling the anesthetic and
> pain meds. She plopped herself down next to me, put her head on my right hand,
> rolled over on her back, reached up with her front paws and gently placed them
> on my cheeks with one on each side of my face, licked my nose several times,
> then closed her eyes and fell asleep that way.
>
> It took several minutes for me to decide to carefully extricate my hand and face
> and give her space so she could sleep off the effects of the day. It seems so
> far today that she's harboring no hard feelings about yesterday. She's been
> sleeping a lot, but when awake she's been the same affectionate little creature
> she's been since the day she first arrived here.
>
> Joy - You wrote in your reply, "I think it depends partly on how happy Minnie is
> with you now." If that's the case, I guess I had nothing to worry about.
>
> Jill - You guessed that "after just being being spayed she will not be as
> active" - and she has been a lot less rambunctious than she usually is. Oddly
> though...out in the kitchen there's a cardboard box with the toys she seldom
> plays with anymore since she found those rawhide shoelaces. One of the items in
> it was a balled-up empty cigarette pack I'd given her back in November when I'd
> just gotten her and didn't have any "real" kitty toys to give her yet. Last
> night she took that cigarette pack and went marching all around the house
> carrying it in her mouth with Happy Kitty written all over her. She hadn't even
> touched the thing for more than a month and I suppose most other people would
> have thrown it away by now. I was going to and just never got around to it. Now
> it'll probably be months before I'll again consider disposing of it.
>
> "The Newest Other Guy": You said, "I had an orange cat who loved going ANYWHERE,
> even the Vet" - I found that interesting because my Goldie (RB) was an orange
> cat too, and he seemed to regard it as a personal insult when we went somewhere
> and didn't bring him along. We'd come out of the house and he'd be waaay over on
> the other side of the yard, but if he saw or heard keys or if we seemed to be
> heading anywhere that was even remotely in the direction of the truck, he'd be
> already there waiting for us when we got there.
>
> John D. Kasupski
> Niagara Falls, NY
>

I'm glad she came through all right and that she obviously doesn't bear
any grudge. Maybe she remembers that cigarette pack as her first toy at
your house. Anyway, she's obviously happy, and I know that's a great
weight off your mind.

Joy
Simi Valley, CA

John Kasupski
February 11th 17, 10:23 PM
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:45:13 -0800, Joy > wrote:

>Maybe she remembers that cigarette pack as her first toy at your house.

Now that you mention it, that's exactly what it was. I remember crushing it up
into a ball and I was going to toss it into the waste basket, then remembered
that I now had a kitten in the house who had literally nothing to play with and
rolled it across the floor and watched her pounce on it. So, yes...and wow, she
went all the way back to her very first toy here. Guess I just learned something
about my cat...and also, I guess she was even happier to be back home last night
than I realized.

John D. Kasupski
Niagara Falls, NY

Rusty[_2_]
February 12th 17, 08:07 PM
On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 3:13:58 PM UTC-5, John Kasupski wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:38:00 -0500, John Kasupski <> wrote:
>
> I did read all the replies I received yesterday afternoon while Minnie was at
> the vet's and I was waiting for it to be time to go pick her up. I didn't write
> anything back then because I was a nervous wreck worrying about her, and then
> last night I was more concerned with keeping an eye on Minnie than anything
> else. Thanks to all of you who replied. It meant more to me than I can say,
> because...well...
>
> Before yesterday, the last time somebody put Minnie into a carrier and took her
> on a long ride somewhere, they left her there and never came back - which was
> when her previous owner left her with me...but cats have long memories, and when
> Minnie saw the carrier yesterday morning, she got scared and went and hid in her
> most secure hiding place under a piece of furniture from where I had to reach in
> and remove her against her wishes, which I had never, ever done to her before.
>
> So the last thing I said to her before I handed her over to the vet's assistant
> at 7:30 AM was, "I'll be back for you, sweetie, It's okay. I'm coming back. I
> promise." Then they ask me...if we find that she's positive for FIV or FeLV do
> you want us to just euthanise her?
>
> I almost exploded. They'd just seen me promise my cat that I would be back for
> her. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I had broken that promise
> - and then let them kill her besides! I managed to keep calm, smile, and say no,
> I want her back...she might only live a year or maybe two if we're lucky, but
> I'll take whatever time we have together and deal with that when the time comes.
>
> I was a basket case the rest of the day, though. You see, Minnie was part of a
> litter of...well, I don't remember now if it was 7 or 9 kittens. I do know that
> only Minnie and one other survived, and I was told that the others all came down
> with some kind of eye infection before they died. Knowing that conjunctivitis is
> one of the symptoms of FIV, I was concerned that the other kittens may have
> inherited that virus before birth or been exposed to it soon afterward...and
> that Minnie may have been too. So I must admit I was basically terrified all day
> yesterday until I went to pick her up and was told she was negative for both.
>
> OK...so she got her rabies and FVRCP shots, the flea protection revolution,
> tapeworm injection, got spayed and microchipped, and had her nails trimmed.
>
> When I picked her up at 5:00 PM, they handed her to me, and I looked into the
> carrier and talked to her, but even though she was looking at me, she wasn't
> really reacting - she was still woozy from the anesthetic and the pain
> medication (meloxicam). Once I got her home and put the carrier down on the
> klitchen floor, though, she started moving around in there and letting me know
> she was definitely ready to come out of that thing. I got her favorite blanket
> and put it on the living floor, went back to the kitchen and got the carrier,
> brought it in and setit down on the blanket, got down on the blanket on all
> fours next to the carrier, and opened the door.
>
> For about three seconds we just laid there making eye contact. Then I said
> quietly, "It's okay now, baby. You're back home. I love you."
>
> Minnie immediately came out of the carrier, walked over to my right hand and
> licked it a few times, then turned around and took two steps and gave my left
> hand equal treatment. Then she walked once around the coffee table, stopping at
> each leg to rub her whiskers on it. When she got back to the blanket, I was
> there lying with my face on it on the floor so I could see under the coffee
> table to watch her in case she fell over due to still feeling the anesthetic and
> pain meds. She plopped herself down next to me, put her head on my right hand,
> rolled over on her back, reached up with her front paws and gently placed them
> on my cheeks with one on each side of my face, licked my nose several times,
> then closed her eyes and fell asleep that way.
>
> It took several minutes for me to decide to carefully extricate my hand and face
> and give her space so she could sleep off the effects of the day. It seems so
> far today that she's harboring no hard feelings about yesterday. She's been
> sleeping a lot, but when awake she's been the same affectionate little creature
> she's been since the day she first arrived here.
>
> Joy - You wrote in your reply, "I think it depends partly on how happy Minnie is
> with you now." If that's the case, I guess I had nothing to worry about.
>
> Jill - You guessed that "after just being being spayed she will not be as
> active" - and she has been a lot less rambunctious than she usually is. Oddly
> though...out in the kitchen there's a cardboard box with the toys she seldom
> plays with anymore since she found those rawhide shoelaces. One of the items in
> it was a balled-up empty cigarette pack I'd given her back in November when I'd
> just gotten her and didn't have any "real" kitty toys to give her yet. Last
> night she took that cigarette pack and went marching all around the house
> carrying it in her mouth with Happy Kitty written all over her. She hadn't even
> touched the thing for more than a month and I suppose most other people would
> have thrown it away by now. I was going to and just never got around to it. Now
> it'll probably be months before I'll again consider disposing of it.
>
> "The Newest Other Guy": You said, "I had an orange cat who loved going ANYWHERE,
> even the Vet" - I found that interesting because my Goldie (RB) was an orange
> cat too, and he seemed to regard it as a personal insult when we went somewhere
> and didn't bring him along. We'd come out of the house and he'd be waaay over on
> the other side of the yard, but if he saw or heard keys or if we seemed to be
> heading anywhere that was even remotely in the direction of the truck, he'd be
> already there waiting for us when we got there.
>
> John D. Kasupski
> Niagara Falls, NY

Rusty (RB) was an orange cat, and he didn't like going to the vet. In fact, he
developed a bad reputation at the vet. I told the vet Rusty was a different cat
at home. He was very aggressive, lunging at the vet tech who tried to get him out of the cage and into the carrier to go home. But once home, he was his usual self.

Bastette[_4_]
February 15th 17, 04:19 AM
Rusty wrote:

> On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 3:13:58 PM UTC-5, John Kasupski wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:38:00 -0500, John Kasupski <> wrote:
>>
>> I did read all the replies I received yesterday afternoon while Minnie was at
>> the vet's and I was waiting for it to be time to go pick her up. I didn't write
>> anything back then because I was a nervous wreck worrying about her, and then
>> last night I was more concerned with keeping an eye on Minnie than anything
>> else. Thanks to all of you who replied. It meant more to me than I can say,
>> because...well...
>>
>> Before yesterday, the last time somebody put Minnie into a carrier and took her
>> on a long ride somewhere, they left her there and never came back - which was
>> when her previous owner left her with me...but cats have long memories, and when
>> Minnie saw the carrier yesterday morning, she got scared and went and hid in her
>> most secure hiding place under a piece of furniture from where I had to reach in
>> and remove her against her wishes, which I had never, ever done to her before.
>>
>> So the last thing I said to her before I handed her over to the vet's assistant
>> at 7:30 AM was, "I'll be back for you, sweetie, It's okay. I'm coming back. I
>> promise." Then they ask me...if we find that she's positive for FIV or FeLV do
>> you want us to just euthanise her?
>>
>> I almost exploded. They'd just seen me promise my cat that I would be back for
>> her. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I had broken that promise
>> - and then let them kill her besides! I managed to keep calm, smile, and say no,
>> I want her back...she might only live a year or maybe two if we're lucky, but
>> I'll take whatever time we have together and deal with that when the time comes.
>>
>> I was a basket case the rest of the day, though. You see, Minnie was part of a
>> litter of...well, I don't remember now if it was 7 or 9 kittens. I do know that
>> only Minnie and one other survived, and I was told that the others all came down
>> with some kind of eye infection before they died. Knowing that conjunctivitis is
>> one of the symptoms of FIV, I was concerned that the other kittens may have
>> inherited that virus before birth or been exposed to it soon afterward...and
>> that Minnie may have been too. So I must admit I was basically terrified all day
>> yesterday until I went to pick her up and was told she was negative for both.
>>
>> OK...so she got her rabies and FVRCP shots, the flea protection revolution,
>> tapeworm injection, got spayed and microchipped, and had her nails trimmed.
>>
>> When I picked her up at 5:00 PM, they handed her to me, and I looked into the
>> carrier and talked to her, but even though she was looking at me, she wasn't
>> really reacting - she was still woozy from the anesthetic and the pain
>> medication (meloxicam). Once I got her home and put the carrier down on the
>> klitchen floor, though, she started moving around in there and letting me know
>> she was definitely ready to come out of that thing. I got her favorite blanket
>> and put it on the living floor, went back to the kitchen and got the carrier,
>> brought it in and setit down on the blanket, got down on the blanket on all
>> fours next to the carrier, and opened the door.
>>
>> For about three seconds we just laid there making eye contact. Then I said
>> quietly, "It's okay now, baby. You're back home. I love you."
>>
>> Minnie immediately came out of the carrier, walked over to my right hand and
>> licked it a few times, then turned around and took two steps and gave my left
>> hand equal treatment. Then she walked once around the coffee table, stopping at
>> each leg to rub her whiskers on it. When she got back to the blanket, I was
>> there lying with my face on it on the floor so I could see under the coffee
>> table to watch her in case she fell over due to still feeling the anesthetic and
>> pain meds. She plopped herself down next to me, put her head on my right hand,
>> rolled over on her back, reached up with her front paws and gently placed them
>> on my cheeks with one on each side of my face, licked my nose several times,
>> then closed her eyes and fell asleep that way.
>>
>> It took several minutes for me to decide to carefully extricate my hand and face
>> and give her space so she could sleep off the effects of the day. It seems so
>> far today that she's harboring no hard feelings about yesterday. She's been
>> sleeping a lot, but when awake she's been the same affectionate little creature
>> she's been since the day she first arrived here.
>>
>> Joy - You wrote in your reply, "I think it depends partly on how happy Minnie is
>> with you now." If that's the case, I guess I had nothing to worry about.
>>
>> Jill - You guessed that "after just being being spayed she will not be as
>> active" - and she has been a lot less rambunctious than she usually is. Oddly
>> though...out in the kitchen there's a cardboard box with the toys she seldom
>> plays with anymore since she found those rawhide shoelaces. One of the items in
>> it was a balled-up empty cigarette pack I'd given her back in November when I'd
>> just gotten her and didn't have any "real" kitty toys to give her yet. Last
>> night she took that cigarette pack and went marching all around the house
>> carrying it in her mouth with Happy Kitty written all over her. She hadn't even
>> touched the thing for more than a month and I suppose most other people would
>> have thrown it away by now. I was going to and just never got around to it. Now
>> it'll probably be months before I'll again consider disposing of it.
>>
>> "The Newest Other Guy": You said, "I had an orange cat who loved going ANYWHERE,
>> even the Vet" - I found that interesting because my Goldie (RB) was an orange
>> cat too, and he seemed to regard it as a personal insult when we went somewhere
>> and didn't bring him along. We'd come out of the house and he'd be waaay over on
>> the other side of the yard, but if he saw or heard keys or if we seemed to be
>> heading anywhere that was even remotely in the direction of the truck, he'd be
>> already there waiting for us when we got there.
>>
>> John D. Kasupski
>> Niagara Falls, NY

> Rusty (RB) was an orange cat, and he didn't like going to the vet. In fact, he
> developed a bad reputation at the vet. I told the vet Rusty was a different cat
> at home. He was very aggressive, lunging at the vet tech who tried to get him out of the cage and into the carrier to go home. But once home, he was his usual self.

I used to have a cat - orange, but female - who once had to spend the night
at the emergency vet. (Boy was that expensive.) Granted she was very ill
with severe anemia, caused by a slow-bleeding stomach ulcer. So she had to have
a transfusion. The emergency vet hospital was staffed all night, so they
checked up on her regularly and wrote notes on her chart. At one point,
someone had written, "This cat has a very bad attitude!" LOL. Good sign she
was going to make it, which she did, and she went on to live until she was 21.

--
May the great galactic kitten always purr you to sleep.

Rusty[_2_]
February 15th 17, 07:43 PM
On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 10:21:07 PM UTC-5, Bastette wrote:
> Rusty wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 3:13:58 PM UTC-5, John Kasupski wrote:
> >> On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:38:00 -0500, John Kasupski <> wrote:
> >>
> >> I did read all the replies I received yesterday afternoon while Minnie was at
> >> the vet's and I was waiting for it to be time to go pick her up. I didn't write
> >> anything back then because I was a nervous wreck worrying about her, and then
> >> last night I was more concerned with keeping an eye on Minnie than anything
> >> else. Thanks to all of you who replied. It meant more to me than I can say,
> >> because...well...
> >>
> >> Before yesterday, the last time somebody put Minnie into a carrier and took her
> >> on a long ride somewhere, they left her there and never came back - which was
> >> when her previous owner left her with me...but cats have long memories, and when
> >> Minnie saw the carrier yesterday morning, she got scared and went and hid in her
> >> most secure hiding place under a piece of furniture from where I had to reach in
> >> and remove her against her wishes, which I had never, ever done to her before.
> >>
> >> So the last thing I said to her before I handed her over to the vet's assistant
> >> at 7:30 AM was, "I'll be back for you, sweetie, It's okay. I'm coming back. I
> >> promise." Then they ask me...if we find that she's positive for FIV or FeLV do
> >> you want us to just euthanise her?
> >>
> >> I almost exploded. They'd just seen me promise my cat that I would be back for
> >> her. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I had broken that promise
> >> - and then let them kill her besides! I managed to keep calm, smile, and say no,
> >> I want her back...she might only live a year or maybe two if we're lucky, but
> >> I'll take whatever time we have together and deal with that when the time comes.
> >>
> >> I was a basket case the rest of the day, though. You see, Minnie was part of a
> >> litter of...well, I don't remember now if it was 7 or 9 kittens. I do know that
> >> only Minnie and one other survived, and I was told that the others all came down
> >> with some kind of eye infection before they died. Knowing that conjunctivitis is
> >> one of the symptoms of FIV, I was concerned that the other kittens may have
> >> inherited that virus before birth or been exposed to it soon afterward...and
> >> that Minnie may have been too. So I must admit I was basically terrified all day
> >> yesterday until I went to pick her up and was told she was negative for both.
> >>
> >> OK...so she got her rabies and FVRCP shots, the flea protection revolution,
> >> tapeworm injection, got spayed and microchipped, and had her nails trimmed.
> >>
> >> When I picked her up at 5:00 PM, they handed her to me, and I looked into the
> >> carrier and talked to her, but even though she was looking at me, she wasn't
> >> really reacting - she was still woozy from the anesthetic and the pain
> >> medication (meloxicam). Once I got her home and put the carrier down on the
> >> klitchen floor, though, she started moving around in there and letting me know
> >> she was definitely ready to come out of that thing. I got her favorite blanket
> >> and put it on the living floor, went back to the kitchen and got the carrier,
> >> brought it in and setit down on the blanket, got down on the blanket on all
> >> fours next to the carrier, and opened the door.
> >>
> >> For about three seconds we just laid there making eye contact. Then I said
> >> quietly, "It's okay now, baby. You're back home. I love you."
> >>
> >> Minnie immediately came out of the carrier, walked over to my right hand and
> >> licked it a few times, then turned around and took two steps and gave my left
> >> hand equal treatment. Then she walked once around the coffee table, stopping at
> >> each leg to rub her whiskers on it. When she got back to the blanket, I was
> >> there lying with my face on it on the floor so I could see under the coffee
> >> table to watch her in case she fell over due to still feeling the anesthetic and
> >> pain meds. She plopped herself down next to me, put her head on my right hand,
> >> rolled over on her back, reached up with her front paws and gently placed them
> >> on my cheeks with one on each side of my face, licked my nose several times,
> >> then closed her eyes and fell asleep that way.
> >>
> >> It took several minutes for me to decide to carefully extricate my hand and face
> >> and give her space so she could sleep off the effects of the day. It seems so
> >> far today that she's harboring no hard feelings about yesterday. She's been
> >> sleeping a lot, but when awake she's been the same affectionate little creature
> >> she's been since the day she first arrived here.
> >>
> >> Joy - You wrote in your reply, "I think it depends partly on how happy Minnie is
> >> with you now." If that's the case, I guess I had nothing to worry about.
> >>
> >> Jill - You guessed that "after just being being spayed she will not be as
> >> active" - and she has been a lot less rambunctious than she usually is. Oddly
> >> though...out in the kitchen there's a cardboard box with the toys she seldom
> >> plays with anymore since she found those rawhide shoelaces. One of the items in
> >> it was a balled-up empty cigarette pack I'd given her back in November when I'd
> >> just gotten her and didn't have any "real" kitty toys to give her yet.. Last
> >> night she took that cigarette pack and went marching all around the house
> >> carrying it in her mouth with Happy Kitty written all over her. She hadn't even
> >> touched the thing for more than a month and I suppose most other people would
> >> have thrown it away by now. I was going to and just never got around to it. Now
> >> it'll probably be months before I'll again consider disposing of it.
> >>
> >> "The Newest Other Guy": You said, "I had an orange cat who loved going ANYWHERE,
> >> even the Vet" - I found that interesting because my Goldie (RB) was an orange
> >> cat too, and he seemed to regard it as a personal insult when we went somewhere
> >> and didn't bring him along. We'd come out of the house and he'd be waaay over on
> >> the other side of the yard, but if he saw or heard keys or if we seemed to be
> >> heading anywhere that was even remotely in the direction of the truck, he'd be
> >> already there waiting for us when we got there.
> >>
> >> John D. Kasupski
> >> Niagara Falls, NY
>
> > Rusty (RB) was an orange cat, and he didn't like going to the vet. In fact, he
> > developed a bad reputation at the vet. I told the vet Rusty was a different cat
> > at home. He was very aggressive, lunging at the vet tech who tried to get him out of the cage and into the carrier to go home. But once home, he was his usual self.
>
> I used to have a cat - orange, but female - who once had to spend the night
> at the emergency vet. (Boy was that expensive.) Granted she was very ill
> with severe anemia, caused by a slow-bleeding stomach ulcer. So she had to have
> a transfusion. The emergency vet hospital was staffed all night, so they
> checked up on her regularly and wrote notes on her chart. At one point,
> someone had written, "This cat has a very bad attitude!" LOL. Good sign she
> was going to make it, which she did, and she went on to live until she was 21.
>
> --
> May the great galactic kitten always purr you to sleep.

Rusty (RB) went to the emergency hospital countless times because of repeated
urinary blockages, and some false alarms. Spent a small fortune there. One time he was hospitalized for a weekend with a catheter stuck in him to unblock. The vet called me and said he was a naughty boy and pulled his catheter out. I wanted to say what did you expect?

He lived to 16 when he was diagnosed with pancreatitis. He was in pain, kept vomiting and was skin and bones despite a very good appetite. So he was sent to RB right after Thanksgiving when he had his last supper of turkey. Prio to that, he never had people food.
Cried my eyes out over his passing.

Joy[_3_]
February 15th 17, 08:49 PM
On 2/15/2017 10:43 AM, Rusty wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 10:21:07 PM UTC-5, Bastette wrote:
>> Rusty wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 3:13:58 PM UTC-5, John Kasupski wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:38:00 -0500, John Kasupski <> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I did read all the replies I received yesterday afternoon while Minnie was at
>> >> the vet's and I was waiting for it to be time to go pick her up. I didn't write
>> >> anything back then because I was a nervous wreck worrying about her, and then
>> >> last night I was more concerned with keeping an eye on Minnie than anything
>> >> else. Thanks to all of you who replied. It meant more to me than I can say,
>> >> because...well...
>> >>
>> >> Before yesterday, the last time somebody put Minnie into a carrier and took her
>> >> on a long ride somewhere, they left her there and never came back - which was
>> >> when her previous owner left her with me...but cats have long memories, and when
>> >> Minnie saw the carrier yesterday morning, she got scared and went and hid in her
>> >> most secure hiding place under a piece of furniture from where I had to reach in
>> >> and remove her against her wishes, which I had never, ever done to her before.
>> >>
>> >> So the last thing I said to her before I handed her over to the vet's assistant
>> >> at 7:30 AM was, "I'll be back for you, sweetie, It's okay. I'm coming back. I
>> >> promise." Then they ask me...if we find that she's positive for FIV or FeLV do
>> >> you want us to just euthanise her?
>> >>
>> >> I almost exploded. They'd just seen me promise my cat that I would be back for
>> >> her. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I had broken that promise
>> >> - and then let them kill her besides! I managed to keep calm, smile, and say no,
>> >> I want her back...she might only live a year or maybe two if we're lucky, but
>> >> I'll take whatever time we have together and deal with that when the time comes.
>> >>
>> >> I was a basket case the rest of the day, though. You see, Minnie was part of a
>> >> litter of...well, I don't remember now if it was 7 or 9 kittens. I do know that
>> >> only Minnie and one other survived, and I was told that the others all came down
>> >> with some kind of eye infection before they died. Knowing that conjunctivitis is
>> >> one of the symptoms of FIV, I was concerned that the other kittens may have
>> >> inherited that virus before birth or been exposed to it soon afterward...and
>> >> that Minnie may have been too. So I must admit I was basically terrified all day
>> >> yesterday until I went to pick her up and was told she was negative for both.
>> >>
>> >> OK...so she got her rabies and FVRCP shots, the flea protection revolution,
>> >> tapeworm injection, got spayed and microchipped, and had her nails trimmed.
>> >>
>> >> When I picked her up at 5:00 PM, they handed her to me, and I looked into the
>> >> carrier and talked to her, but even though she was looking at me, she wasn't
>> >> really reacting - she was still woozy from the anesthetic and the pain
>> >> medication (meloxicam). Once I got her home and put the carrier down on the
>> >> klitchen floor, though, she started moving around in there and letting me know
>> >> she was definitely ready to come out of that thing. I got her favorite blanket
>> >> and put it on the living floor, went back to the kitchen and got the carrier,
>> >> brought it in and setit down on the blanket, got down on the blanket on all
>> >> fours next to the carrier, and opened the door.
>> >>
>> >> For about three seconds we just laid there making eye contact. Then I said
>> >> quietly, "It's okay now, baby. You're back home. I love you."
>> >>
>> >> Minnie immediately came out of the carrier, walked over to my right hand and
>> >> licked it a few times, then turned around and took two steps and gave my left
>> >> hand equal treatment. Then she walked once around the coffee table, stopping at
>> >> each leg to rub her whiskers on it. When she got back to the blanket, I was
>> >> there lying with my face on it on the floor so I could see under the coffee
>> >> table to watch her in case she fell over due to still feeling the anesthetic and
>> >> pain meds. She plopped herself down next to me, put her head on my right hand,
>> >> rolled over on her back, reached up with her front paws and gently placed them
>> >> on my cheeks with one on each side of my face, licked my nose several times,
>> >> then closed her eyes and fell asleep that way.
>> >>
>> >> It took several minutes for me to decide to carefully extricate my hand and face
>> >> and give her space so she could sleep off the effects of the day. It seems so
>> >> far today that she's harboring no hard feelings about yesterday. She's been
>> >> sleeping a lot, but when awake she's been the same affectionate little creature
>> >> she's been since the day she first arrived here.
>> >>
>> >> Joy - You wrote in your reply, "I think it depends partly on how happy Minnie is
>> >> with you now." If that's the case, I guess I had nothing to worry about.
>> >>
>> >> Jill - You guessed that "after just being being spayed she will not be as
>> >> active" - and she has been a lot less rambunctious than she usually is. Oddly
>> >> though...out in the kitchen there's a cardboard box with the toys she seldom
>> >> plays with anymore since she found those rawhide shoelaces. One of the items in
>> >> it was a balled-up empty cigarette pack I'd given her back in November when I'd
>> >> just gotten her and didn't have any "real" kitty toys to give her yet. Last
>> >> night she took that cigarette pack and went marching all around the house
>> >> carrying it in her mouth with Happy Kitty written all over her. She hadn't even
>> >> touched the thing for more than a month and I suppose most other people would
>> >> have thrown it away by now. I was going to and just never got around to it. Now
>> >> it'll probably be months before I'll again consider disposing of it.
>> >>
>> >> "The Newest Other Guy": You said, "I had an orange cat who loved going ANYWHERE,
>> >> even the Vet" - I found that interesting because my Goldie (RB) was an orange
>> >> cat too, and he seemed to regard it as a personal insult when we went somewhere
>> >> and didn't bring him along. We'd come out of the house and he'd be waaay over on
>> >> the other side of the yard, but if he saw or heard keys or if we seemed to be
>> >> heading anywhere that was even remotely in the direction of the truck, he'd be
>> >> already there waiting for us when we got there.
>> >>
>> >> John D. Kasupski
>> >> Niagara Falls, NY
>>
>> > Rusty (RB) was an orange cat, and he didn't like going to the vet. In fact, he
>> > developed a bad reputation at the vet. I told the vet Rusty was a different cat
>> > at home. He was very aggressive, lunging at the vet tech who tried to get him out of the cage and into the carrier to go home. But once home, he was his usual self.
>>
>> I used to have a cat - orange, but female - who once had to spend the night
>> at the emergency vet. (Boy was that expensive.) Granted she was very ill
>> with severe anemia, caused by a slow-bleeding stomach ulcer. So she had to have
>> a transfusion. The emergency vet hospital was staffed all night, so they
>> checked up on her regularly and wrote notes on her chart. At one point,
>> someone had written, "This cat has a very bad attitude!" LOL. Good sign she
>> was going to make it, which she did, and she went on to live until she was 21.
>>
>> --
>> May the great galactic kitten always purr you to sleep.
>
> Rusty (RB) went to the emergency hospital countless times because of repeated
> urinary blockages, and some false alarms. Spent a small fortune there. One time he was hospitalized for a weekend with a catheter stuck in him to unblock. The vet called me and said he was a naughty boy and pulled his catheter out. I wanted to say what did you expect?
>
> He lived to 16 when he was diagnosed with pancreatitis. He was in pain, kept vomiting and was skin and bones despite a very good appetite. So he was sent to RB right after Thanksgiving when he had his last supper of turkey. Prio to that, he never had people food.
> Cried my eyes out over his passing.
>

You did the right thing, painful as it was.