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Rhino
October 26th 05, 05:44 PM
One of my two cats, Bebop, loves to play with lattice balls. (See
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000633ROW/002-2987693-6220846?v=glance)
if you're not sure what a "lattice ball" is.)

I have two related problems:

1. Bebop only likes lattice balls that contain a plastic "pea" (or whatever
you call the little ball that is inside the lattice ball). Unfortunately, I
am having a heck of a time finding lattice balls with plastic peas now; the
manufacturers all seem to have switched over to metal peas. For some reason,
Bebop is utterly indifferent to balls with metal peas and will only get
enthusiastic if the ball contains a plastic pea.

2. The lattice balls, regardless of whether they contain plastic or metal
peas, are very fragile. They only have to bounce on the tile floor a couple
of times and bits of the lattice break off; soon the pea falls out
altogether and the toy is useless. Or maybe Bebop is breaking the framework
of the lattice to some extent: he carries the ball around in his mouth
sometimes to put it in a more suitable position for playing.

So, I would like to know if anyone is aware of any company that makes or
sells a more durable lattice ball, perhaps one made with a harder plastic or
even some other material (fiberglass or something that resembles plastic but
is stronger?) but that sounds the same as a regular lattice ball containing
a plastic pea? Or, failing that, if anyone knows of someone who sells
lattice balls with plastic peas for a price like $2 per four pack?

Alternatively, does anyone know of any way to *make* a good solid lattice
ball that contains a plastic pea and is going to last more than a day or
two?

Last weekend, I finally found some lattice balls with plastic peas but they
were part of a bird toy which included a small mirror, a peek-a-boo toy, and
a string of 4 lattice balls; that cost me $7 (Canadian) plus tax and three
of the lattice balls are already damaged or broken useless already. I do not
want to spend $10 or $15 dollars a week on lattice balls so I'm hoping
someone can give me a useful suggestion.

Bebop likes to play but he is very picky about what he'll play with. I've
got two large drawers full of cat toys and he won't even look at most of
them. The lattice balls are one of the few toys he has remained enthusiastic
about for a long time. He gets depressed if I don't play with him but I find
it hard to play with him because he just ignores most toys.

Rhino

cybercat
October 26th 05, 06:16 PM
"Rhino" > wrote in message
.. .
> One of my two cats, Bebop, loves to play with lattice balls. (See
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000633ROW/002-2987693-6220846?v=glance)
> if you're not sure what a "lattice ball" is.)
>
> I have two related problems:
>
> 1. Bebop only likes lattice balls that contain a plastic "pea" (or
whatever
> you call the little ball that is inside the lattice ball). Unfortunately,
I
> am having a heck of a time finding lattice balls with plastic peas now;
the
> manufacturers all seem to have switched over to metal peas. For some
reason,
> Bebop is utterly indifferent to balls with metal peas and will only get
> enthusiastic if the ball contains a plastic pea.

Rhino! Bebop has you totally pussywhipped! :) I just had to point that
out as I am also a victim of this feline bullying. My cat likes to play with
a rubber snake that is so worn it has lost its head, tail, eyes, little
forked
tongue, and most of its green. Despite spending a small fortune on ordering
all manner of similar snakes online, she completely ignores these snakes and
I worry that when the original snake falls apart completely, she will never
get that much pleasure out of any toy. Which pains my heart. I am telling
you, they do this just to mess with us. It's a power thing. They have it and
they know it.

[...]
> Bebop likes to play but he is very picky about what he'll play with. I've
> got two large drawers full of cat toys and he won't even look at most of
> them. The lattice balls are one of the few toys he has remained
enthusiastic
> about for a long time. He gets depressed if I don't play with him but I
find
> it hard to play with him because he just ignores most toys.
>

My cats ignore all lattice balls so I cannot help you but I do hope someone
else can meet your very specific needs.

No More Retail
October 26th 05, 06:22 PM
make your own you can get those peas or beads at any hobby fabric shop take
one with a metal ball take a blade and separate them both use some natural
sealing product and away you go. Since you are cat whipped just like the
rest of us the time making these will be worth it

No More Retail
October 26th 05, 06:23 PM
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PawsForThought
October 26th 05, 06:57 PM
No More Retail wrote:
> make your own you can get those peas or beads at any hobby fabric shop take
> one with a metal ball take a blade and separate them both use some natural
> sealing product and away you go. Since you are cat whipped just like the
> rest of us the time making these will be worth it

Good idea. Also, my cats love these glitter cloth balls that I found
at the dollar store (something craft stores probably carry). The only
problem is they're always batting them under the refrigerator.

Magic Mood Jeep
October 26th 05, 08:54 PM
Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> Rhino > wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
>
>> Bebop likes to play but he is very picky about what he'll play
>> with. I've got two large drawers full of cat toys and he won't
>> even look at most of them. The lattice balls are one of the few
>> toys he has remained enthusiastic about for a long time. He gets
>> depressed if I don't play with him but I find it hard to play with
>> him because he just ignores most toys.
>>
>> Rhino
>
> I gave a ton of cat toys to the vet a while ago. Bebop sounds as
> picky as she is. However, Kami loves the lattice balls with the bell
> (we call them jingle balls), and they are only broken when I
> accidentally step on them. (You should see her face if she's around.
> She looks at me like I killed her mother or something.) She loves to
> play fetch.

I've done that once - and the cats *still* played with the durn thing - they
just played hockey with it in the kitchen!

They in the puffball faze now. And milk rings and Twisties.....

>
> I doubt you will find a more durable lattice ball. The packages I buy
> always come with one that is half lattice and half solid plastic.
> Those seem to last longer, but it could be that she doesn't like them.
> Doing a quick search I found that the ones with plastic inside are
> bird toys, they must be more durable because my birds always tried to
> rip their toys apart. So go down the bird aisles instead of the cat
> aisles at your local PetsMart.
>
> --
> Brandy Alexandre
> http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
> Well, would you?

---MIKE---
October 26th 05, 11:32 PM
My first lattice ball was metal and the "pea" was lost long ago. The
ball itself got stepped on a few times and is in rather rough shape.
Tiger prefers this one to the two newer "perfect" ones and occasionally
brings it to me (in his mouth) for me to play fetch with him. He never
brings me the newer ones.


---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44 15' N - Elevation 1580')

Magic Mood Jeep
October 27th 05, 03:08 AM
Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> Magic Mood Jeep > wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
>
>> They in the puffball faze now. And milk rings and Twisties.....
>
> Ah! The milk rings. There's a curl of plastic sold as a cat toy, but
> who in their right mind would actually BUY something that comes free
> with every gallon of milk?

<raises hand sheepishly>

We recently moved an ancient steemer trunk out of a corner of the kitchen
(our house is 80 years old, and the kitchen is 14' x 20' - huge compared to
most now). Underneath it were about 2 dozen milk rings, milk jug caps and a
few of the toys I spent my DH's hard-earned money on

>
> Kami don't do puff balls. She hunts her little fur mice, and drowns
> them in the toilet.
>
> --
> Brandy Alexandre
> http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
> Well, would you?

cybercat
October 27th 05, 04:19 PM
"Diane" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Hodge has a snowman that's probably three years old. It was a seasonal
> toy, no longer available. The same company makes similar catnip/fleece
> toys that he occasionally will look at, but, noooooo, the tattered,
> greenish, dirty, licked-unto-death snowman is the one that is almost
> always trotted out for playtime. I've been tempted to toss it for health
> reasons, but I think it would break his heart, and he'd feel lost
> without it.

I wonder if it would wash well? I have actually washed the snake
by mistake--since she sometimes brings it to us in bed, it has hidden
in the sheets on laundry day a couple of times. : D

Don't you wish you could find out what goes on in those little
cat brains? I mean, why THAT toy?

Rhino
October 27th 05, 04:33 PM
"No More Retail" > wrote in message
m...
> make your own you can get those peas or beads at any hobby fabric shop
take
> one with a metal ball take a blade and separate them both use some natural
> sealing product and away you go. Since you are cat whipped just like the
> rest of us the time making these will be worth it
>
I wouldn't object to doing that - I still have some plastic peas from broken
lattice balls that I could use - but the lattice ball itself is so flimsy it
would soon break again. I wonder if there is some way to strengthen the
plastic of the lattice ball so it takes more abuse without making the sound
change too much or getting toxic substances on the ball? After all, even if
there is some kind of goop that would make the plastic stronger, if it is
toxic to cats, I would be endangering Bebop by slathering that stuff on his
toys.

If I had any idea how to do it, I'd probably *make* a new stronger lattice
ball, then market them to the cat toy stores. It *can't* be that hard to do
but I don't know how to do it myself.

Rhino

Rhino
October 27th 05, 04:48 PM
"Magic Mood Jeep" > wrote in message
...
> Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> > Magic Mood Jeep > wrote in
> > rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> >
> >> They in the puffball faze now. And milk rings and Twisties.....
> >
> > Ah! The milk rings. There's a curl of plastic sold as a cat toy, but
> > who in their right mind would actually BUY something that comes free
> > with every gallon of milk?
>
> <raises hand sheepishly>
>
> We recently moved an ancient steemer trunk out of a corner of the kitchen
> (our house is 80 years old, and the kitchen is 14' x 20' - huge compared
to
> most now). Underneath it were about 2 dozen milk rings, milk jug caps and
a
> few of the toys I spent my DH's hard-earned money on
>
My mother's cats like to play with those small, soft, spongy balls that you
can get, sometimes patterned to look like small soccer balls. One day, she
found a substantial cache of them in a very unexpected place. They were
shoved under an old cabinet she uses to store her laundry supplies. The
cabinet has a skirt around its legs and there is one small gap in the skirt.
The balls had been shoved into the gap. The thing that I can't figure out is
why the cats put them there. At first I thought they were building a secret
cache of toys that they could use at their leisure or something like that
but I don't think that's it: there's no way they can get the toys back out
of the spot where they hid them. It was more as if they were getting rid of
them permanently - flushing them down the toilet, so to speak - than saving
them for a rainy day. But I can't imagine why they'd want to discard them;
they *beg* Mom to throw these balls and seem to love chasing them.

Actually, that's not quite right. Tiger begs mom to throw them and, when she
does, he goes racing after the ball. As soon as he's got it, he puts it in
his mouth and trots downstairs with it. If I follow him down to watch, he
stands a good distance a way and sets the ball down on the ground and
crouches over it protectively. If I come closer, he picks it up again and
moves somewhere else. If I leave, he somehow summons the other cat, his
brother Sam. Then *Sam* starts howling as if to tell mom that he has found
something important. Mom goes downstairs, strokes him, and tells him that
he's done a great job in finding the ball. In a nutshell, Tiger "hides" the
ball, tells Sam where it is, and then Sam gets the credit for "finding" it
again.

I really don't know why they do what they do but it is endlessly fascinating
to speculate on that. I'm assuming there is a rational reason for it but
maybe they're just messing with our minds :-)

> >
> > Kami don't do puff balls. She hunts her little fur mice, and drowns
> > them in the toilet.
> >
> > --
> > Brandy Alexandre
> > http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
> > Well, would you?
>
>
Rhino

Lesley
October 28th 05, 01:43 PM
>
> Hodge has a snowman that's probably three years old. It was a seasonal
> toy, no longer available. The same company makes similar catnip/fleece
> toys that he occasionally will look at, but, noooooo, the tattered,
> greenish, dirty, licked-unto-death snowman is the one that is almost
> always trotted out for playtime. I've been tempted to toss it for health
> reasons, but I think it would break his heart, and he'd feel lost
> without it.


Sarrasine has her Santa which is about a year old. Other toys come and
go and she plays with them for a few days but then she goes back and
digs out her old Santa! The head is staring to come off and I'm afraid
she might pine when it does

Lesley


Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

cybercat
October 28th 05, 05:04 PM
"Lesley" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Sarrasine has her Santa which is about a year old. Other toys come and
> go and she plays with them for a few days but then she goes back and
> digs out her old Santa! The head is staring to come off and I'm afraid
> she might pine when it does
>

Well, if she is anything like my kitty, she will not even notice. :)
My first visit to "rubbersnakesrus.com" came about because the
head of her favorite was hanging by a hinge. Two odd Fedex
packages later we had a headless rubber snake that she still
worked over regularly and about 15 she would not touch. :)

Rhino
October 28th 05, 09:03 PM
"Rhino" > wrote in message
.. .
> One of my two cats, Bebop, loves to play with lattice balls. (See
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000633ROW/002-2987693-6220846?v=glance)
> if you're not sure what a "lattice ball" is.)
>
> I have two related problems:
>
> 1. Bebop only likes lattice balls that contain a plastic "pea" (or
whatever
> you call the little ball that is inside the lattice ball). Unfortunately,
I
> am having a heck of a time finding lattice balls with plastic peas now;
the
> manufacturers all seem to have switched over to metal peas. For some
reason,
> Bebop is utterly indifferent to balls with metal peas and will only get
> enthusiastic if the ball contains a plastic pea.
>
> 2. The lattice balls, regardless of whether they contain plastic or metal
> peas, are very fragile. They only have to bounce on the tile floor a
couple
> of times and bits of the lattice break off; soon the pea falls out
> altogether and the toy is useless. Or maybe Bebop is breaking the
framework
> of the lattice to some extent: he carries the ball around in his mouth
> sometimes to put it in a more suitable position for playing.
>
> So, I would like to know if anyone is aware of any company that makes or
> sells a more durable lattice ball, perhaps one made with a harder plastic
or
> even some other material (fiberglass or something that resembles plastic
but
> is stronger?) but that sounds the same as a regular lattice ball
containing
> a plastic pea? Or, failing that, if anyone knows of someone who sells
> lattice balls with plastic peas for a price like $2 per four pack?
>
> Alternatively, does anyone know of any way to *make* a good solid lattice
> ball that contains a plastic pea and is going to last more than a day or
> two?
>
> Last weekend, I finally found some lattice balls with plastic peas but
they
> were part of a bird toy which included a small mirror, a peek-a-boo toy,
and
> a string of 4 lattice balls; that cost me $7 (Canadian) plus tax and three
> of the lattice balls are already damaged or broken useless already. I do
not
> want to spend $10 or $15 dollars a week on lattice balls so I'm hoping
> someone can give me a useful suggestion.
>
> Bebop likes to play but he is very picky about what he'll play with. I've
> got two large drawers full of cat toys and he won't even look at most of
> them. The lattice balls are one of the few toys he has remained
enthusiastic
> about for a long time. He gets depressed if I don't play with him but I
find
> it hard to play with him because he just ignores most toys.
>
> Rhino
>
I'm replying to my own post, just in case someone else has the same problem
with their own cat.

I made my annual visit to Walmart today - they always seem to have much
better prices for Halloween candy - and, while I was there, it occured to me
that they might have some of the lattice balls with the plastic peas in
them. They didn't have the regular lattice balls but they did have something
that looked like Bebop *might* play with it: some small plastic, semi-open
balls with plastic peas inside. They are made by Hartz and the package is
labelled "Midnight Crazies". I took a chance and bought one package of them.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that Bebop likes them just fine! I was
also delighted to see that they are much less brittle than the lattice
balls; the plastic has some "give" to it so they will bounce on a tile floor
or tolerate being picked up in Bebop's mouth without pieces breaking off.

In short, they are exactly what I was looking for: a more durable ball with
a plastic pea inside.

Problem solved!

Rhino

cybercat
October 28th 05, 10:58 PM
"Rhino" > wrote

> I made my annual visit to Walmart today - they always seem to have much
> better prices for Halloween candy - and, while I was there, it occured to
me
> that they might have some of the lattice balls with the plastic peas in
> them. They didn't have the regular lattice balls but they did have
something
> that looked like Bebop *might* play with it: some small plastic, semi-open
> balls with plastic peas inside. They are made by Hartz and the package is
> labelled "Midnight Crazies". I took a chance and bought one package of
them.
>
> I was pleasantly surprised to find that Bebop likes them just fine! I was
> also delighted to see that they are much less brittle than the lattice
> balls; the plastic has some "give" to it so they will bounce on a tile
floor
> or tolerate being picked up in Bebop's mouth without pieces breaking off.
>
> In short, they are exactly what I was looking for: a more durable ball
with
> a plastic pea inside.
>
> Problem solved!
>

Yay for Bebop! And now you don't have to set up a lattice ball shop.
:0)