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jmc
February 18th 06, 11:34 PM
Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's
fine she was a bit down that afternoon - but normal by night, and normal
yesterday.

Today, she got a few minutes out in our yard - she's mostly an indoor
cat but spends hours out there in summer. Wasn't interested in hours,
so she was maybe out there for 10 minutes.

Some short time after that, she vomited a small amount of food, mixed
with a little bit of hair. Normally I'd have expected her to throw up
grass after being outside. We cleaned it up, and didn't think too much
of it (she's rarely thrown up food before), and went out.

We came home, and shortly after, I heard her retching, and she threw up
more food. At that point we found two more piles behind the table - one
was still warm. It seems to be just her food though.

After maybe another half-hour, she threw up again - this time just
brownish bile. She's never vomited this much before - 4x in perhaps a 7
hour period.

Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and
call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of
chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.

I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then
suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't
eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the
chicken that's suggested. Also suggested kaopectate, but we don't have
any and it's 11:30pm here.

She hasn't tossed again for about an hour now, but she's needy and
uncharacteristically hanging out next to me in the computer room. She
did look a bit distressed after the last session, but then I am too when
I'm tossing up everything I've eaten...

I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this
is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for
only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?

AFAIK she only eats grass, and there's plenty in her usual spots so I
can't really see her getting into anything else, but we do have roses
that I was clipping yesterday so I wondered if she could have got a
thorn on her paw, then ingested it? What would the symptoms be if she
had eaten a thorn? I can pretty much rule out poison, there's simply
nothing like that in our yard, and if it was a poisonous plant I'd think
she'd have gotten into trouble long before this.

I'll definitely call the vet in the morning if she's still retching, but
I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep tonight, worrying about her.

Any help is appreciated.

jmc

jmc
February 19th 06, 12:34 AM
Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (18-Feb-06 11:34 PM):
> Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's
> fine she was a bit down that afternoon - but normal by night, and normal
> yesterday.
>
> Today, she got a few minutes out in our yard - she's mostly an indoor
> cat but spends hours out there in summer. Wasn't interested in hours,
> so she was maybe out there for 10 minutes.
>
> Some short time after that, she vomited a small amount of food, mixed
> with a little bit of hair. Normally I'd have expected her to throw up
> grass after being outside. We cleaned it up, and didn't think too much
> of it (she's rarely thrown up food before), and went out.
>
> We came home, and shortly after, I heard her retching, and she threw up
> more food. At that point we found two more piles behind the table - one
> was still warm. It seems to be just her food though.
>
> After maybe another half-hour, she threw up again - this time just
> brownish bile. She's never vomited this much before - 4x in perhaps a 7
> hour period.
>
> Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and
> call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of
> chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.
>
> I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then
> suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't
> eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the
> chicken that's suggested. Also suggested kaopectate, but we don't have
> any and it's 11:30pm here.
>
> She hasn't tossed again for about an hour now, but she's needy and
> uncharacteristically hanging out next to me in the computer room. She
> did look a bit distressed after the last session, but then I am too when
> I'm tossing up everything I've eaten...
>
> I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this
> is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for
> only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?
>
> AFAIK she only eats grass, and there's plenty in her usual spots so I
> can't really see her getting into anything else, but we do have roses
> that I was clipping yesterday so I wondered if she could have got a
> thorn on her paw, then ingested it? What would the symptoms be if she
> had eaten a thorn? I can pretty much rule out poison, there's simply
> nothing like that in our yard, and if it was a poisonous plant I'd think
> she'd have gotten into trouble long before this.
>
> I'll definitely call the vet in the morning if she's still retching, but
> I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep tonight, worrying about her.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> jmc

Well, it's been another hour - seems to be better, sort of. She's
stopped vomiting, though to me she still seems uncomfortable.

jmc

cybercat
February 19th 06, 12:43 AM
"jmc" > wrote in message
...
> Poor Meep. >
> I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this
> is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for
> only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?
>

This is exactly how my cats act after they have eaten some sort of
houseplant.
(None of theones I have had are actually poisonous to cats, but they
obviously
were not the best choices for a snack.) My girls are generally better within
24 hours.

LMR via CatKB.com
February 19th 06, 03:29 AM
>Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and
>call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of
>chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.
>I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then
>suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't
>eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the

Try (onion-free) chicken baby food (after the 24 hour wait); never seen a cat
who doesn't like it. That is what most books and my own vet suggest after a
bout of diarreah as it is very bland and easy on the stomach.

>I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this
>is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for
>only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?

I'm wondering if it could be a hairball that won't come up since there was a
bit of hair in the first vomit. The hairball is trying to come out but just
the food does instead. Taking away the food for awhile sounds like a good
idea.

LMR

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mlbriggs
February 19th 06, 04:04 AM
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 03:29:51 +0000, LMR via CatKB.com wrote:

>>Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and
>>call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of
>>chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.
>>I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then
>>suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't
>>eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the
>
> Try (onion-free) chicken baby food (after the 24 hour wait); never seen a cat
> who doesn't like it. That is what most books and my own vet suggest after a
> bout of diarreah as it is very bland and easy on the stomach.
>
>>I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this
>>is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for
>>only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?
>
> I'm wondering if it could be a hairball that won't come up since there was a
> bit of hair in the first vomit. The hairball is trying to come out but just
> the food does instead. Taking away the food for awhile sounds like a good
> idea.
>
> LMR


Maybe some hairball remedy or oil or butter would ease passage of a
hairball. Purrs that she will improve fast. MLB

laurie w
February 19th 06, 07:50 AM
"jmc" > wrote in message
...
Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's
fine she was a bit down that afternoon - but normal by night, and normal
yesterday.

Today, she got a few minutes out in our yard - she's mostly an indoor
cat but spends hours out there in summer. Wasn't interested in hours,
so she was maybe out there for 10 minutes.

Some short time after that, she vomited a small amount of food, mixed
with a little bit of hair. Normally I'd have expected her to throw up
grass after being outside. We cleaned it up, and didn't think too much
of it (she's rarely thrown up food before), and went out.

We came home, and shortly after, I heard her retching, and she threw up
more food. At that point we found two more piles behind the table - one
was still warm. It seems to be just her food though.

After maybe another half-hour, she threw up again - this time just
brownish bile. She's never vomited this much before - 4x in perhaps a 7
hour period.

Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and
call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of
chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.

I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then
suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't
eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the
chicken that's suggested. Also suggested kaopectate, but we don't have
any and it's 11:30pm here.

She hasn't tossed again for about an hour now, but she's needy and
uncharacteristically hanging out next to me in the computer room. She
did look a bit distressed after the last session, but then I am too when
I'm tossing up everything I've eaten...

I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this
is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for
only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?

AFAIK she only eats grass, and there's plenty in her usual spots so I
can't really see her getting into anything else, but we do have roses
that I was clipping yesterday so I wondered if she could have got a
thorn on her paw, then ingested it? What would the symptoms be if she
had eaten a thorn? I can pretty much rule out poison, there's simply
nothing like that in our yard, and if it was a poisonous plant I'd think
she'd have gotten into trouble long before this.

I'll definitely call the vet in the morning if she's still retching, but
I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep tonight, worrying about her.

Any help is appreciated.

jmc


DONT dont dont use kaopectate.
Nor pepto.
The formula has changed in the kaopectate and it is toxic to kitties-
it is NO LONGER kaolin and pectin.
It now contains bismuth salicylate , which is very dangerous for cats.
A better bet, depending on size of the kitty , is to check with the vet,
and use immodium , 1/4 or 1/8 of
a human pill. But that is for diarrhea, not vomiting.

Must have been something in the air today, one of my kitties (koko) also
vomited 4 times today.

I would recommend the baby meat formulas, the chicken, turkey ,veal, as
has been suggested.
sometimes plain chicken broth in a few bits of potato buds will tempt
them.
Sometimes they will eat stuff when they have upset tummies that they
would normally NOT even sniff.

Koko actually wanted her crunchy nutro lamb and rice, and stopped
vomiting. She refuses the hairball
formula treats, so once a week or so we let her at the butter - stick a
dab in her dinner. It has been
awhile since we did that, so that could possibly be partly why she was
sick.

Good luck, hope kitty feels better - make sure she has access to lots of
fresh water.


laurie

www.richandlaurie.com

jmc
February 19th 06, 08:51 AM
Suddenly, without warning, mlbriggs exclaimed (19-Feb-06 4:04 AM):
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 03:29:51 +0000, LMR via CatKB.com wrote:
>
>>> Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and
>>> call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of
>>> chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.
>>> I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then
>>> suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't
>>> eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the
>> Try (onion-free) chicken baby food (after the 24 hour wait); never seen a cat
>> who doesn't like it. That is what most books and my own vet suggest after a
>> bout of diarreah as it is very bland and easy on the stomach.
>>
>>> I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this
>>> is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for
>>> only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?
>> I'm wondering if it could be a hairball that won't come up since there was a
>> bit of hair in the first vomit. The hairball is trying to come out but just
>> the food does instead. Taking away the food for awhile sounds like a good
>> idea.
>>
>> LMR
>
>
> Maybe some hairball remedy or oil or butter would ease passage of a
> hairball. Purrs that she will improve fast. MLB
>

it very well could be a hairball. She vomited again early this morning,
there was a bit of hair in it. Gave her more petromalt and checked the
'net for symptoms. She's alert and eating this morning (I gave her a
few kibbles just to check her appetite), so if it's a hairball, it's not
serious. I'd have thought a big hairball in her belly (what I'm worried
about) would have been noticed by the vet two days ago.

At any rate I'll see how well she holds these kibbles down, and try to
find some baby food a little later.

I went ahead and called the vet again this morning,and made an appt for
tomorrow morning. Hopefully I'll be able to cancel it.

Thanks for the purrs. Perhaps they worked, she's very bright this
morning, though very very hungry.

jmc

jmc
February 19th 06, 09:01 AM
Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (18-Feb-06 11:34 PM):
> Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's
> fine she was a bit down that afternoon - but normal by night, and normal
> yesterday.
>
> Today, she got a few minutes out in our yard - she's mostly an indoor
> cat but spends hours out there in summer. Wasn't interested in hours,
> so she was maybe out there for 10 minutes.
>
> Some short time after that, she vomited a small amount of food, mixed
> with a little bit of hair. Normally I'd have expected her to throw up
> grass after being outside. We cleaned it up, and didn't think too much
> of it (she's rarely thrown up food before), and went out.
>
> We came home, and shortly after, I heard her retching, and she threw up
> more food. At that point we found two more piles behind the table - one
> was still warm. It seems to be just her food though.
>
> After maybe another half-hour, she threw up again - this time just
> brownish bile. She's never vomited this much before - 4x in perhaps a 7
> hour period.
>
> Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and
> call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit of
> chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.
>
> I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then
> suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she won't
> eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but not the
> chicken that's suggested. Also suggested kaopectate, but we don't have
> any and it's 11:30pm here.
>
> She hasn't tossed again for about an hour now, but she's needy and
> uncharacteristically hanging out next to me in the computer room. She
> did look a bit distressed after the last session, but then I am too when
> I'm tossing up everything I've eaten...
>
> I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since this
> is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out. Now, for
> only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort of thing?
>
> AFAIK she only eats grass, and there's plenty in her usual spots so I
> can't really see her getting into anything else, but we do have roses
> that I was clipping yesterday so I wondered if she could have got a
> thorn on her paw, then ingested it? What would the symptoms be if she
> had eaten a thorn? I can pretty much rule out poison, there's simply
> nothing like that in our yard, and if it was a poisonous plant I'd think
> she'd have gotten into trouble long before this.
>
> I'll definitely call the vet in the morning if she's still retching, but
> I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep tonight, worrying about her.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> jmc

Update: She tossed once again in the wee hours of the morning: bile
with some hair. I gave her more petromalt (hairball meds - my UK vet
doesn't know what petromalt is!) and went back to bed. She used the
litterbox during the night, but only to pee. This morning she's up
bright and early, reminding us that not only is it sunny out, but that
she's out of food and could I please fix that?

Called the vet anyway, expressing my concerns this could be leading to a
hairball impaction - she said since Meep's not lethargic and not off her
food, wait-and-see is fine, and I could pick up a sample of hairball
food in the morning. I ended up making an appointment in the early am,
since I'm leaving town around lunchtime, and hubby's not usually
involved in Meep's healthcare. I hope to cancel the appointment :)

Gave her just a couple of kibbles this morning, she wolfed them down.
I'll see if she keeps them down. I'll try to get some (non-onion)
babyfood this morning, and see how that goes.

She doesn't normally toss up hairballs, normally passes them in her
stool. So, I'm hoping for something from either end (she's not pooed in
a day or so but that's normal for her) - if that happens, I'll canx the
vet appointment.

jmc

jmc
February 19th 06, 10:53 AM
Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (19-Feb-06 9:01 AM):
> Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (18-Feb-06 11:34 PM):
>> Poor Meep. We drag her off to the vet on Thursday, and though she's
>> fine she was a bit down that afternoon - but normal by night, and
>> normal yesterday.
>>
>> Today, she got a few minutes out in our yard - she's mostly an indoor
>> cat but spends hours out there in summer. Wasn't interested in hours,
>> so she was maybe out there for 10 minutes.
>>
>> Some short time after that, she vomited a small amount of food, mixed
>> with a little bit of hair. Normally I'd have expected her to throw up
>> grass after being outside. We cleaned it up, and didn't think too
>> much of it (she's rarely thrown up food before), and went out.
>>
>> We came home, and shortly after, I heard her retching, and she threw
>> up more food. At that point we found two more piles behind the table
>> - one was still warm. It seems to be just her food though.
>>
>> After maybe another half-hour, she threw up again - this time just
>> brownish bile. She's never vomited this much before - 4x in perhaps a
>> 7 hour period.
>>
>> Called the night tech at the clinic, she said take away her food, and
>> call if she's still retching in the morning. Perhaps feed her a bit
>> of chicken if she hasn't tossed any more.
>>
>> I checked a book I have, it said take food away for 24 hours, then
>> suggested the same bland diet. That will be problematical as she
>> won't eat any human food except Parmesan cheese, shrimp and tuna - but
>> not the chicken that's suggested. Also suggested kaopectate, but we
>> don't have any and it's 11:30pm here.
>>
>> She hasn't tossed again for about an hour now, but she's needy and
>> uncharacteristically hanging out next to me in the computer room. She
>> did look a bit distressed after the last session, but then I am too
>> when I'm tossing up everything I've eaten...
>>
>> I'm worried that she could have picked up something outside, since
>> this is very unusual for her, and it started after she'd been out.
>> Now, for only 10 minutes... but could a foreign body cause this sort
>> of thing?
>>
>> AFAIK she only eats grass, and there's plenty in her usual spots so I
>> can't really see her getting into anything else, but we do have roses
>> that I was clipping yesterday so I wondered if she could have got a
>> thorn on her paw, then ingested it? What would the symptoms be if she
>> had eaten a thorn? I can pretty much rule out poison, there's simply
>> nothing like that in our yard, and if it was a poisonous plant I'd
>> think she'd have gotten into trouble long before this.
>>
>> I'll definitely call the vet in the morning if she's still retching,
>> but I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep tonight, worrying about her.
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> jmc
>
> Update: She tossed once again in the wee hours of the morning: bile
> with some hair. I gave her more petromalt (hairball meds - my UK vet
> doesn't know what petromalt is!) and went back to bed. She used the
> litterbox during the night, but only to pee. This morning she's up
> bright and early, reminding us that not only is it sunny out, but that
> she's out of food and could I please fix that?
>
> Called the vet anyway, expressing my concerns this could be leading to a
> hairball impaction - she said since Meep's not lethargic and not off her
> food, wait-and-see is fine, and I could pick up a sample of hairball
> food in the morning. I ended up making an appointment in the early am,
> since I'm leaving town around lunchtime, and hubby's not usually
> involved in Meep's healthcare. I hope to cancel the appointment :)
>
> Gave her just a couple of kibbles this morning, she wolfed them down.
> I'll see if she keeps them down. I'll try to get some (non-onion)
> babyfood this morning, and see how that goes.
>
> She doesn't normally toss up hairballs, normally passes them in her
> stool. So, I'm hoping for something from either end (she's not pooed in
> a day or so but that's normal for her) - if that happens, I'll canx the
> vet appointment.
>
> jmc

I have noticed that she's still licking her lips a lot (she was
yesterday too, after this started). Is this significant?

She's not dehydrated, I checked that.

jmc

Morgen
February 19th 06, 03:38 PM
I think it may well be hairball impaction. She should be better by
now. Keep the water handy, petromalt is great. If she goes off the
water, give per children's unflavored pedialyte with a little chicken
broth in it to make it palatable. You may have to force it. I try to
always keep a bottle of this stuff around as it helps with dehydration.
Don't cancel the appt. She needs to be seen.

Love to meeps!
Morgen

jmc
February 19th 06, 11:05 PM
Suddenly, without warning, Morgen exclaimed (19-Feb-06 3:38 PM):
> I think it may well be hairball impaction. She should be better by
> now. Keep the water handy, petromalt is great. If she goes off the
> water, give per children's unflavored pedialyte with a little chicken
> broth in it to make it palatable. You may have to force it. I try to
> always keep a bottle of this stuff around as it helps with dehydration.
> Don't cancel the appt. She needs to be seen.
>
> Love to meeps!
> Morgen
>

Not sure if I'll need to; we'll see what the morning brings. By this
evening, she'd stopped licking her lips, and was running around,
demanding food. I've been giving her the regular food in small bits
throughout the afternoon(she wouldn't touch the baby food), and she's
kept everything down. I'm not feeding her the full amount tonight, but
enough to keep her happy.

Still hasn't poo'd but as she'd tossed everything from yesterday, and
ate nothing until this afternoon, I expect she doesn't have anything to
work with, so to speak. I think it was just a tummy ache after all, but
hubby will keep a close eye on her while I'm away, and will be giving
her petromalt throughout the week.

Thanks to all who responded!

jmc