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May 13th 06, 01:57 AM
Meow everyone. You gotta see this cat's site. I dare you to keep a
straight face.

www.presidentcat.com

DEEEElightful and a platform which will get him elected.

Cheers to all,

Louis Cane

Candace
May 13th 06, 04:14 AM
wrote:
> Meow everyone. You gotta see this cat's site. I dare you to keep a
> straight face.
>
> www.presidentcat.com
>
> DEEEElightful and a platform which will get him elected.
>
> Cheers to all,
>
> Louis Cane

Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.

Candace

-L.
May 13th 06, 06:31 AM
Candace wrote:
>
> Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.
>
> Candace

Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray for
an assassin. (And I don't pray.)

-L.

P No Gree G O
May 13th 06, 02:24 PM
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "-L." >
>
>>Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray for
>>an assassin. (And I don't pray.)
>
>
> It wouldn't help, anyway.
> God hates assholes like you.
> Is there ANYONE that you don't want to see killed.
> And don't say your "son". He isn't old enough to realize
> that Mommy's a psycho, yet. Say that after he's old enough to
> call you a "whacked bitch". Right now, he's just your cuddly
> pet.

Isn't it interesting that the ones with "peacemail" type addys are
always the ones calling for violence against anything they oppose?

Char
May 13th 06, 03:11 PM
> > From: "-L." >
> >
> >>Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray for
> >>an assassin. (And I don't pray.)
> >
> >
> > It wouldn't help, anyway.
> > God hates assholes like you.
> > Is there ANYONE that you don't want to see killed.
> > And don't say your "son". He isn't old enough to realize
> > that Mommy's a psycho, yet. Say that after he's old enough to
> > call you a "whacked bitch". Right now, he's just your cuddly
> > pet.
>
> Isn't it interesting that the ones with "peacemail" type addys are
> always the ones calling for violence against anything they oppose?



Candace may have been a little drastic, but....
I found this info in a few seconds in google. Imagine if I actually took
some time to find out more?

I just read Jeb Bushes daughter was charged with prescription fraud.

She looks like a drug addict.


http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/01/29/jeb.bush.daughter.drugs/


Jeb Bush's 21-year-old son was arrested and charged with public
intoxication, & resisting arrest.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9373195/


And Jeb Bush himself can't keep it in his pants, he is accused of hiding the
salami in

Playboy Bunny and top state employee, Cynthia Henderson.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jeb_Bush#Jeb.27s_Alleged_Affair


So..just MAYBE Candace has a legitimate concern that this person do not
become President of her country?

I certainly would! !

oh..BTW...God doesnt hate anyone..it's man that hates and destroys.

Char

T
May 13th 06, 03:31 PM
In article . com>,
says...
> Meow everyone. You gotta see this cat's site. I dare you to keep a
> straight face.
>
> www.presidentcat.com
>
> DEEEElightful and a platform which will get him elected.
>
> Cheers to all,
>
> Louis Cane
>
>

Interesting poll at the bottom until I realized you could keep
submitting your vote and drive numbers upward.

T
May 13th 06, 03:31 PM
In article . com>,
says...
> wrote:
> > Meow everyone. You gotta see this cat's site. I dare you to keep a
> > straight face.
> >
> > www.presidentcat.com
> >
> > DEEEElightful and a platform which will get him elected.
> >
> > Cheers to all,
> >
> > Louis Cane
>
> Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.
>
> Candace

I think it's a relative certainty that there won't ever be a Bush in the
office of President again.

OceanView
May 13th 06, 04:06 PM
"Char" > wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>> > From: "-L." >
>> >
>> >>Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray
>> >>for an assassin. (And I don't pray.)
>> >
>> >
>> > It wouldn't help, anyway.
>> > God hates assholes like you.
>> > Is there ANYONE that you don't want to see killed.
>> > And don't say your "son". He isn't old enough to realize
>> > that Mommy's a psycho, yet. Say that after he's old enough to
>> > call you a "whacked bitch". Right now, he's just your cuddly
>> > pet.
>>
>> Isn't it interesting that the ones with "peacemail" type addys are
>> always the ones calling for violence against anything they oppose?
>
>
>
> Candace may have been a little drastic, but....
> I found this info in a few seconds in google. Imagine if I actually took
> some time to find out more?
>
> I just read Jeb Bushes daughter was charged with prescription fraud.
>
> She looks like a drug addict.
>
>
> http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/01/29/jeb.bush.daughter.drugs/
>
>
> Jeb Bush's 21-year-old son was arrested and charged with public
> intoxication, & resisting arrest.
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9373195/
>
>
> And Jeb Bush himself can't keep it in his pants, he is accused of hiding
> the salami in
>
> Playboy Bunny and top state employee, Cynthia Henderson.
>
> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jeb_Bush#Jeb.27s_Alleged_Affai
> r
>
>
> So..just MAYBE Candace has a legitimate concern that this person do not
> become President of her country?
>
> I certainly would! !
>
> oh..BTW...God doesnt hate anyone..it's man that hates and destroys.
>
> Char
>
>
>

The way this foolish county votes, it sounds like he's our next president.
Groan.

cybercat
May 13th 06, 04:09 PM
"-L." > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> Candace wrote:
> >
> > Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.
> >
> > Candace
>
> Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray for
> an assassin. (And I don't pray.)
>
> -L.
>

You know, it had never occurred to me either that he might run. Jesus.

Thank you, Candace! ;)



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cybercat
May 13th 06, 05:22 PM
"T" > wrote in message
. ..
> In article . com>,
> says...
> > wrote:
> > > Meow everyone. You gotta see this cat's site. I dare you to keep a
> > > straight face.
> > >
> > > www.presidentcat.com
> > >
> > > DEEEElightful and a platform which will get him elected.
> > >
> > > Cheers to all,
> > >
> > > Louis Cane
> >
> > Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.
> >
> > Candace
>
> I think it's a relative certainty that there won't ever be a Bush in the
> office of President again.

I thought it a relative certainty that the American people would not put a
cretin like George W. Bush in the White House, too. I think you are an
optimist. But I hope you are right.



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Matthew aka NMR
May 13th 06, 09:21 PM
It is funny how all the puppets dance and blame the president for their
problems. He is just a figure head he does what he is told to do by others.
Blame them they are called your politicians. But that is right it to easy
to take aim at our nation's leader and forget the rest of the people that
help keep him or put him in the White House. He is accountable for certain
things yes but how and why does he get this power to make him accountable
OUR POLITICIANS

Do we really want to start bring up other presidents past lets say personal
choices or what their families have done. We can start with the last
President and Democratic in Office who got blowjob from his assistant or did
everyone forget about that. Lets see he was impeached by the house but
acquitted by the Senate. Our politicians at work.
We can even go as far back as Kennedy most of us old farts should
remember his personal choices. Nixon well who could blame him for taking a
fall. Lets see Carter no lets not go there not enough time. Regan and
Bush Senior also not enough time. But that is right we forget about the
past to easy. No person in Politics has a pretty past but yet we the people
make a decision to vote for them and elect them. And the ones that usually
are yelling the most about the problems are unregistered voters who don't
plan to register to vote

And personally it is was between Jeb Bush and Hillary. Jeb Bush in a heart
beat.



"T" > wrote in message
. ..
> In article . com>,
> says...
>> Meow everyone. You gotta see this cat's site. I dare you to keep a
>> straight face.
>>
>> www.presidentcat.com
>>
>> DEEEElightful and a platform which will get him elected.
>>
>> Cheers to all,
>>
>> Louis Cane
>>
>>
>
> Interesting poll at the bottom until I realized you could keep
> submitting your vote and drive numbers upward.
>

cybercat
May 14th 06, 12:16 AM
"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "Char" >
>
> >So..just MAYBE Candace has a legitimate concern that this person do not
> >become President of her country?
>
> I think Candace does. But I was replying to Lyn ("-L.").
> Lyn just wants to see everyone who does not agree with her
> to die.
>
> >oh..BTW...God doesnt hate anyone..it's man that hates and destroys.
>
> Read the Old Testament some time. :)
> Or just look around. I see quite a bit of evidence that God hates
assholes.
> He's not real fond of idiots, either.
>

Guess you had better stay in on stormy nights then.



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-L.
May 14th 06, 01:50 AM
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "-L." >
>
> >Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray for
> >an assassin. (And I don't pray.)
>
> It wouldn't help, anyway.
> God hates assholes like you.
> Is there ANYONE that you don't want to see killed.

In the Republican Party? No.

> And don't say your "son". He isn't old enough to realize
> that Mommy's a psycho, yet. Say that after he's old enough to
> call you a "whacked bitch". Right now, he's just your cuddly
> pet.

Quack, quack, quack! Don't you get tired of hearing yourself squak?

-L.

-L.
May 14th 06, 01:52 AM
T wrote:
> I think it's a relative certainty that there won't ever be a Bush in the
> office of President again.

With ****wads like Nomen on the planet, I wouldn't be so certain.

-L.

-L.
May 14th 06, 06:18 AM
cybercat wrote:
> "-L." > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> >
> > Candace wrote:
> > >
> > > Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.
> > >
> > > Candace
> >
> > Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray for
> > an assassin. (And I don't pray.)
> >
> > -L.
> >
>
> You know, it had never occurred to me either that he might run. Jesus.
>
> Thank you, Candace! ;)

Well, I know it's a *possibility* but I seriously don't think he could
ever win and I think the GOP knows that. The mere mention of his name
makes my skin crawl, though; I am convinced he is infinitely worse than
either of the others.

-L.

-L.
May 14th 06, 08:25 AM
Matthew aka NMR wrote:
> It is funny how all the puppets dance and blame the president for their
> problems. He is just a figure head he does what he is told to do by others.
> Blame them they are called your politicians. But that is right it to easy
> to take aim at our nation's leader and forget the rest of the people that
> help keep him or put him in the White House. He is accountable for certain
> things yes but how and why does he get this power to make him accountable
> OUR POLITICIANS
>
> Do we really want to start bring up other presidents past lets say personal
> choices or what their families have done. We can start with the last
> President and Democratic in Office who got blowjob from his assistant or did
> everyone forget about that.

Oh please. Yes, let's compare him with the current bag of dog ****.
Yes, he got his dick *blown* and the current bag of dog **** -
offensively - *blows* the arms and legs off innocent people daily, for
no good ****ing reason, and has for ...how many years now?

Don't tell me you actually voted for that bag of dog ****. Oh wait -
you're from Florida. You probably elected Jeb too...

-L.

cybercat
May 14th 06, 08:56 AM
"-L." > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
> > It is funny how all the puppets dance and blame the president for their
> > problems. He is just a figure head he does what he is told to do by
others.
> > Blame them they are called your politicians. But that is right it to
easy
> > to take aim at our nation's leader and forget the rest of the people
that
> > help keep him or put him in the White House. He is accountable for
certain
> > things yes but how and why does he get this power to make him
accountable
> > OUR POLITICIANS
> >
> > Do we really want to start bring up other presidents past lets say
personal
> > choices or what their families have done. We can start with the last
> > President and Democratic in Office who got blowjob from his assistant or
did
> > everyone forget about that.
>
> Oh please. Yes, let's compare him with the current bag of dog ****.
> Yes, he got his dick *blown* and the current bag of dog **** -
> offensively - *blows* the arms and legs off innocent people daily, for
> no good ****ing reason, and has for ...how many years now?
>
> Don't tell me you actually voted for that bag of dog ****. Oh wait -
> you're from Florida. You probably elected Jeb too...
>
> -L.
>

I have to say ... you've got a good point, Lyn. No doubt neither Matthew nor
"Nomen" saw their sons--or what was left of them-- come home in body bags.

But then again, how about that economy?

And never mind the deficit.

And since Osama equals Sadaam, we must be winning, right?



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-L.
May 14th 06, 09:08 AM
cybercat wrote:
>
> I have to say ... you've got a good point, Lyn. No doubt neither Matthew nor
> "Nomen" saw their sons--or what was left of them-- come home in body bags.
>
> But then again, how about that economy?
>
> And never mind the deficit.
>
> And since Osama equals Sadaam, we must be winning, right?

And lezz not ferget de price of oil...afterall, we're protecting "our"
oil supply, right?

Oh, but we have so much to be PROUD of! Wave dem flags!! Place dem
ribbons on dem dar bumpers! Support dem troups!

-L.

Matthew aka NMR
May 14th 06, 10:54 AM
"-L." > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>> It is funny how all the puppets dance and blame the president for their
>> problems. He is just a figure head he does what he is told to do by
>> others.
>> Blame them they are called your politicians. But that is right it to
>> easy
>> to take aim at our nation's leader and forget the rest of the people that
>> help keep him or put him in the White House. He is accountable for
>> certain
>> things yes but how and why does he get this power to make him
>> accountable
>> OUR POLITICIANS
>>
>> Do we really want to start bring up other presidents past lets say
>> personal
>> choices or what their families have done. We can start with the last
>> President and Democratic in Office who got blowjob from his assistant or
>> did
>> everyone forget about that.
>
> Oh please. Yes, let's compare him with the current bag of dog ****.
> Yes, he got his dick *blown* and the current bag of dog **** -
> offensively - *blows* the arms and legs off innocent people daily, for
> no good ****ing reason, and has for ...how many years now?
>
> Don't tell me you actually voted for that bag of dog ****. Oh wait -
> you're from Florida. You probably elected Jeb too...
>
> -L.
>
Once again ignorance shows. Hello after 60 day Congress has to agree to
keep the troops over there. Who is Congress made up off.

Don't press your opinions off on me when All I did was state a fact and
facts. All politicians are useless but we the people still allow them to be
in office including the ones you voted for to if you voted

So dance puppet dance. Blame a figure head for your daily problems in life
to easy to do. Even the President of the this great nations still has
bosses

Matthew aka NMR
May 14th 06, 10:59 AM
"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "Matthew aka NMR" >
>
>>It is funny how all the puppets dance and blame the president for their
>>problems. He is just a figure head he does what he is told to do by
>>others.
>
> I think they must have missed that point in history class.
>
>>Do we really want to start bring up other presidents past lets say
>>personal
>>choices or what their families have done. We can start with the last
>>President and Democratic in Office who got blowjob from his assistant or
>>did
>>everyone forget about that.
>
> And a fat, ugly assistant at that. And wasting a good cigar on her
> is unforgivable.
> I've always liked Donald Trump's comment about that. "If Clinton
> had gotten a blowjob from a supermodel, he'd be a national hero".
>
>>We can even go as far back as Kennedy most of us old farts should
>>remember his personal choices.
>
> Ahh, Marilyn Monroe. Now there's a proper indiscretion for a US
> president.
>
>>Nixon well who could blame him for taking a
>>fall.
>
> He kept my ass out of the rice paddys of Vietnam. I gotta
> appreciate that about him.
>
>>Lets see Carter no lets not go there not enough time.
>
> Worst president in my lifetime.
> Also the best ex-president in my lifetime.
>
>>Regan and
>>Bush Senior also not enough time.
>
> Reagan brought a sense of optimism back to the US (which wasn't
> too hard after the Carter administration).
> Bush senior was less of an idiot that his son, but still an
> idiot.
>
>>And the ones that usually
>>are yelling the most about the problems are unregistered voters who don't
>>plan to register to vote
>
> Or the impotent, lazy, unwashed masses, that think they should
> be given the things that others have worked to obtain.
>
>
> And I still think we should be able to vote "none of the above"
> in national elections.
>
Agreed

Matthew aka NMR
May 14th 06, 11:03 AM
There are 3 things never to be debated Sex, politics and religion but get
me started and you will get my opinion
I never said I did or did not support Bush just I would vote for Jeb Bush
instead of the that bitch Hillary Clinton.

No I have not had any sons die in the war yet just saw the outcome when I
was growing up something called Vietnam where family and friend were lost.
But both of you are a little young to fully remember those days

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "-L." > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>>
>> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>> > It is funny how all the puppets dance and blame the president for their
>> > problems. He is just a figure head he does what he is told to do by
> others.
>> > Blame them they are called your politicians. But that is right it to
> easy
>> > to take aim at our nation's leader and forget the rest of the people
> that
>> > help keep him or put him in the White House. He is accountable for
> certain
>> > things yes but how and why does he get this power to make him
> accountable
>> > OUR POLITICIANS
>> >
>> > Do we really want to start bring up other presidents past lets say
> personal
>> > choices or what their families have done. We can start with the last
>> > President and Democratic in Office who got blowjob from his assistant
>> > or
> did
>> > everyone forget about that.
>>
>> Oh please. Yes, let's compare him with the current bag of dog ****.
>> Yes, he got his dick *blown* and the current bag of dog **** -
>> offensively - *blows* the arms and legs off innocent people daily, for
>> no good ****ing reason, and has for ...how many years now?
>>
>> Don't tell me you actually voted for that bag of dog ****. Oh wait -
>> you're from Florida. You probably elected Jeb too...
>>
>> -L.
>>
>
> I have to say ... you've got a good point, Lyn. No doubt neither Matthew
> nor
> "Nomen" saw their sons--or what was left of them-- come home in body bags.
>
> But then again, how about that economy?
>
> And never mind the deficit.
>
> And since Osama equals Sadaam, we must be winning, right?
>
>
>
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Matthew aka NMR
May 14th 06, 11:09 AM
"-L." > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>> It is funny how all the puppets dance and blame the president for their
>> problems. He is just a figure head he does what he is told to do by
>> others.
>> Blame them they are called your politicians. But that is right it to
>> easy
>> to take aim at our nation's leader and forget the rest of the people that
>> help keep him or put him in the White House. He is accountable for
>> certain
>> things yes but how and why does he get this power to make him
>> accountable
>> OUR POLITICIANS
>>
>> Do we really want to start bring up other presidents past lets say
>> personal
>> choices or what their families have done. We can start with the last
>> President and Democratic in Office who got blowjob from his assistant or
>> did
>> everyone forget about that.
>
> Oh please. Yes, let's compare him with the current bag of dog ****.
> Yes, he got his dick *blown* and the current bag of dog **** -
> offensively - *blows* the arms and legs off innocent people daily, for
> no good ****ing reason, and has for ...how many years now?
>

Want to go back and talk about Vietnam war, bay of pigs, Cuban missile
crisis, Lebanon oh that is right you are to young for that


> Don't tell me you actually voted for that bag of dog ****. Oh wait -
> you're from Florida. You probably elected Jeb too...
> -
All I can say to you Lyn since you are letting your emotions rule instead of
logic is Dance puppet Dance

P No Gree G O
May 14th 06, 11:54 AM
-L. wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>
>>"-L." > wrote in message
ps.com...
>>
>>>Candace wrote:
>>>
>>>>Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.
>>>>
>>>>Candace
>>>
>>>Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray for
>>>an assassin. (And I don't pray.)
>>>
>>>-L.
>>>
>>
>>You know, it had never occurred to me either that he might run. Jesus.
>>
>>Thank you, Candace! ;)
>
>
> Well, I know it's a *possibility* but I seriously don't think he could
> ever win and I think the GOP knows that. The mere mention of his name
> makes my skin crawl, though; I am convinced he is infinitely worse than
> either of the others.

Why? Any rational thought besides "he's a Bush."


>
> -L.
>

P No Gree G O
May 14th 06, 11:56 AM
-L. wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>
>>I have to say ... you've got a good point, Lyn. No doubt neither Matthew nor
>>"Nomen" saw their sons--or what was left of them-- come home in body bags.
>>
>>But then again, how about that economy?
>>
>>And never mind the deficit.
>>
>>And since Osama equals Sadaam, we must be winning, right?
>
>
> And lezz not ferget de price of oil...afterall, we're protecting "our"
> oil supply, right?
>
> Oh, but we have so much to be PROUD of! Wave dem flags!! Place dem
> ribbons on dem dar bumpers! Support dem troups!
>
> -L.
>
Why are you such an idiot?

Char
May 14th 06, 04:02 PM
Don't you think there is something wrong with voting for the person who
makes your skin crawl the least??

WTF has the world turned into.

I am in Canada, we have a prime minister who lives to be a bush "Ass
Licker", he didnt make my skin crawl the least so I didnt vote for him.

I don't do political, as far as I am concerned they are all wolves with
minimal degrees of wool sticking out of their shirts. Same asshole,
different face.
It has become acceptable to be self-serving, dirty, rotten and underhanded,
and the public has become
indifferent to it all.

My vote is for the cat.

Char



"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
> -L. wrote:
>
> > cybercat wrote:
> >
> >>"-L." > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> >>
> >>>Candace wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.
> >>>>
> >>>>Candace
> >>>
> >>>Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray for
> >>>an assassin. (And I don't pray.)
> >>>
> >>>-L.
> >>>
> >>
> >>You know, it had never occurred to me either that he might run. Jesus.
> >>
> >>Thank you, Candace! ;)
> >
> >
> > Well, I know it's a *possibility* but I seriously don't think he could
> > ever win and I think the GOP knows that. The mere mention of his name
> > makes my skin crawl, though; I am convinced he is infinitely worse than
> > either of the others.
>
> Why? Any rational thought besides "he's a Bush."
>
>
> >
> > -L.
> >
>

Matthew aka NMR
May 14th 06, 04:10 PM
Sorry it should have been [email protected] but that was one of the nicest words I
could think of this morning for a woman that supports and is trying to take
weapons out of police officers hands

"D." > wrote in message
nk.net...
> In article >,
> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote:
>
>> that bitch Hillary Clinton.
>
> Glad you're being rational, not emotional, unlike the wimmins. Have you
> met "that bitch"? Know her that well?
>
>> No I have not had any sons die in the war yet just saw the outcome when I
>> was growing up something called Vietnam where family and friend were
>> lost.
>> But both of you are a little young to fully remember those days
>
> Well, I'm not "a little young," so you may have to try to find another
> way to be insulting without saying anything of substance.
>
> On the other hand, please don't. I think this place is best for chatting
> about incontinent cats.
>
> --
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-L.
May 14th 06, 06:08 PM
Matthew aka NMR wrote:
> There are 3 things never to be debated Sex, politics and religion but get
> me started and you will get my opinion
> I never said I did or did not support Bush just I would vote for Jeb Bush
> instead of the that bitch Hillary Clinton.
>
> No I have not had any sons die in the war yet just saw the outcome when I
> was growing up something called Vietnam where family and friend were lost.
> But both of you are a little young to fully remember those days

Don't be so sure. I attended more than one funeral for my brother's
friends all of whom were killed in 'Nam. He would have been too, if
his eyesight wasn't so bad.

-L.

cybercat
May 14th 06, 06:25 PM
"D." > wrote in message
nk.net...
> In article >,
> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote:
>
> > that bitch Hillary Clinton.
>
> Glad you're being rational, not emotional, unlike the wimmins. Have you
> met "that bitch"? Know her that well?
>
> > No I have not had any sons die in the war yet just saw the outcome when
I
> > was growing up something called Vietnam where family and friend were
lost.
> > But both of you are a little young to fully remember those days
>
> Well, I'm not "a little young," so you may have to try to find another
> way to be insulting without saying anything of substance.
>
> On the other hand, please don't. I think this place is best for chatting
> about incontinent cats.
>

Damn. My cat is not incontinent. Do I need to unsubscribe? ;)



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cybercat
May 14th 06, 06:37 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
. ..
> There are 3 things never to be debated Sex, politics and religion but get
> me started and you will get my opinion
> I never said I did or did not support Bush just I would vote for Jeb Bush
> instead of the that bitch Hillary Clinton.
>

Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is it?
Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.

And you don't get points for remembering Vietnam. All you were was
THERE.

My comments were perfectly rational and accurate. There are boys
coming home in body bags because G.W. Bush had a grudge against
Saddaam for dissing his daddy; Osama Bin Laden is still a free agent;
the economy sucks and the deficit this moron has run up while still being
unable to find New Orleans on the map in a crisis is unforgivable.

I would personally lead a campaign to raise funds to pay comely young
things to suck Bill Clinton's weewee on a regular basis if that could bring
him back into office.



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cybercat
May 14th 06, 06:50 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
. ..
> Sorry it should have been [email protected] but that was one of the nicest words I
> could think of this morning for a woman that supports and is trying to
take
> weapons out of police officers hands
>

Oh what a crock of horse****, Matthew. Link, please?



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cybercat
May 14th 06, 06:51 PM
"Char" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Don't you think there is something wrong with voting for the person who
> makes your skin crawl the least??
>
> WTF has the world turned into.
>
> I am in Canada, we have a prime minister who lives to be a bush "Ass
> Licker", he didnt make my skin crawl the least so I didnt vote for him.
>
> I don't do political, as far as I am concerned they are all wolves with
> minimal degrees of wool sticking out of their shirts. Same asshole,
> different face.
> It has become acceptable to be self-serving, dirty, rotten and
underhanded,
> and the public has become
> indifferent to it all.
>
> My vote is for the cat.
>
> Char
>
>

Apathy is not the answer.



>
> "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> ...
> > -L. wrote:
> >
> > > cybercat wrote:
> > >
> > >>"-L." > wrote in message
> > ps.com...
> > >>
> > >>>Candace wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Candace
> > >>>
> > >>>Oh God, don't even say that. If that mother****er runs, I'll pray
for
> > >>>an assassin. (And I don't pray.)
> > >>>
> > >>>-L.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>You know, it had never occurred to me either that he might run. Jesus.
> > >>
> > >>Thank you, Candace! ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I know it's a *possibility* but I seriously don't think he could
> > > ever win and I think the GOP knows that. The mere mention of his name
> > > makes my skin crawl, though; I am convinced he is infinitely worse
than
> > > either of the others.
> >
> > Why? Any rational thought besides "he's a Bush."
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -L.
> > >
> >
>
>



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cybercat
May 14th 06, 06:52 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
> -L. wrote:
>
> > cybercat wrote:
> >
> >>I have to say ... you've got a good point, Lyn. No doubt neither Matthew
nor
> >>"Nomen" saw their sons--or what was left of them-- come home in body
bags.
> >>
> >>But then again, how about that economy?
> >>
> >>And never mind the deficit.
> >>
> >>And since Osama equals Sadaam, we must be winning, right?
> >
> >
> > And lezz not ferget de price of oil...afterall, we're protecting "our"
> > oil supply, right?
> >
> > Oh, but we have so much to be PROUD of! Wave dem flags!! Place dem
> > ribbons on dem dar bumpers! Support dem troups!
> >
> > -L.
> >
> Why are you such an idiot?
>

I love to hear from you paragons of rational thought.
Please, enlighten us further.




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Rhonda
May 14th 06, 07:11 PM
cybercat wrote:

> Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is it?
> Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
> a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.
>
> And you don't get points for remembering Vietnam. All you were was
> THERE.
>
> My comments were perfectly rational and accurate. There are boys
> coming home in body bags because G.W. Bush had a grudge against
> Saddaam for dissing his daddy; Osama Bin Laden is still a free agent;
> the economy sucks and the deficit this moron has run up while still being
> unable to find New Orleans on the map in a crisis is unforgivable.
>
> I would personally lead a campaign to raise funds to pay comely young
> things to suck Bill Clinton's weewee on a regular basis if that could bring
> him back into office.



OMG, Bingo! I usually don't jump into these things but you are so right on.

I agree with every point -- successful females and men who resent them,
Dubya taking our country down the tubes to avenge his daddy, Osama just
a second thought (eye on the ball, Dubya?), Clinton gone and the drastic
changes in our country...

WWBCD (What Would Bill Clinton Do?)

If only we could toss out the electoral college by 2008 and elect a
president that most people want.

Rhonda

P No Gree G O
May 14th 06, 08:40 PM
cybercat wrote:
> "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>-L. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>cybercat wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have to say ... you've got a good point, Lyn. No doubt neither Matthew
>
> nor
>
>>>>"Nomen" saw their sons--or what was left of them-- come home in body
>
> bags.
>
>>>>But then again, how about that economy?
>>>>
>>>>And never mind the deficit.
>>>>
>>>>And since Osama equals Sadaam, we must be winning, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>And lezz not ferget de price of oil...afterall, we're protecting "our"
>>>oil supply, right?
>>>
>>>Oh, but we have so much to be PROUD of! Wave dem flags!! Place dem
>>>ribbons on dem dar bumpers! Support dem troups!
>>>
>>>-L.
>>>
>>
>>Why are you such an idiot?
>>
>
>
> I love to hear from you paragons of rational thought.
> Please, enlighten us further.

No need. The fact that I don't think in ignorant broad strokes is good
enough.

cybercat
May 14th 06, 08:58 PM
"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "cybercat" >
>
> >I have to say ... you've got a good point, Lyn. No doubt neither Matthew
nor
> >"Nomen" saw their sons--or what was left of them-- come home in body
bags.
>
> True. But I went to the funerals of WAY too many friends. Friends
> who had no choice about going to war because they were DRAFTED.
> Do you understand DRAFTED. That means that the government FORCES
> people to do a job that they don't want to do, sends them to a country
> that they don't want to be in, hands them a machinegun that they don't
> want to carry, and orders them to kill a bunch of people that they don't
want
> to kill. And, in the case of Vietnam, tells them to do it with one hand
tied
> behind their back. And that was the Democrat's war, BTW.
> I will also add that one of those friends came back from Vietnam with
> the Congressional Medal of Honor. His parents, proudly, had it's image
engraved
> on his headstone.


First, your comment regarding the Vietnam War constitute a non sequitur.
They just
do not follow, and if they did, it would be because you were smart enough
not to want
to see the same ****ing thing today that you saw then. You already have, and
it goes like
this: "young people dying for NOTHING but some imaginary cause in the minds
of the fat
white boys and (and of course, Condoleeza Rice), fighting a war they cannot
win for which
we have no exit strategy and from which no good can come." Sound familiar?
And you
sure can't rule out the draft yet, either. Those numbers are running mighty
thin, and once
your numbnuts Republican heroes start a war with Iran they will be thinner.


> So have you lost any friends or family in Iraq? Or are you just talking
out your
> ass?

This argument seems to be, I have to have experienced it to recognize it as
a tragedy. Get your head out of your flabby ass. Recognize that smell? It is
HORSE**** coming out of your head.

>
> At least in Iraq, every soldier there is a VOLUNTEER. They chose to
> do that job. Nobody forced them.

For now.
>
> Someone should explain that to that stupid bitch, Cindy Sheehan. Her
> son volunteered. Every time she opens her mouth, she is ****ing on her
> son's honor.

I love this.

>
> >But then again, how about that economy?
>
> Let me clue you in. The economy is not that bad. Or do you believe
> everything the liberal news organizations are telling you.
> I'll admit, though, we're heading for a train wreck. But that's because
> the "emerging nations" are beginning to kick our asses in the world
> economy while Congress is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
> News Flash - Steroid use in Major League baseball is way down the
> list in national priorities.
>
> Another News Flash - The world is running out of oil. We've nearly hit
> peak production. Saudi Arabia has past peak production. They're using
> water injection on NEW WELLS just to keep production up. Do you
> understand what that means?
> China and India are increasing their energy demand exponentially....and
> cutting deals left and right to secure their energy needs for the next 25
> years.
> I was around in '74 to get a glinpse of what happens to this country when
> we can't meet our energy demands. If we're not in Iraq to secure the oil
> for our use......we damned well should be!
>
> It ****es me off every time I see these idiots protesting the war and
chanting
> "No Blood for Oil'. Then, after the protest......they get in their cars
and SUVs
> to drive home.

You guys all sound the same, and you are full of horse****. Fossil fuel is
NOT
the only way to go, and even if it were, I am not convinced that "the world
is
running out of oil." In any case, the answer is not to embark upon a
hopeless
and pointless war with an oil-rich nation that costs us billions of dollars
and
thousands of lives and STILL wind up drilling in the Alaskan wilderness.
>
> Ever seen the movie "Three Days of the Condor"?
> Remember the dialog between Robertson and Redford near the end?
> Quite prophetic, I think.
> I just pulled it off IMDB so I wouldn't misquote it.
>
> Higgins: It's simple economics. Today it's oil, right? In ten or fifteen
years, food.
> Plutonium. Maybe even sooner. Now, what do you think the people are gonna
> want us to do then?
>
> Joe Turner: Ask them?
>
> Higgins: Not now - then! Ask 'em when they're running out. Ask 'em when
there's no heat
> in their homes and they're cold. Ask 'em when their engines stop. Ask 'em
when people
> who have never known hunger start going hungry. You wanna know something?
They
> won't want us to ask 'em. They'll just want us to get it for 'em!
>
>

Forgive me for not being impressed by the "prophecy" you think you see in
outdated
B movies.

The fact is, you dried up old single-eyebrowed blowhard, you want anyone in
office who supports
the NRA.




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cybercat
May 14th 06, 09:00 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote
> >>
> >>Why are you such an idiot?
> >>> >
> > I love to hear from you paragons of rational thought.
> > Please, enlighten us further.
>
> No need. The fact that I don't think in ignorant broad strokes is good
enough.
>

Mmm hmm. I thought "why are you such an idiot" was pretty broad.

Meanwhile no self-respecting Italian would drink the goat pee you have taken
for your name.



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Juice
May 14th 06, 10:21 PM
Nomen Nescio wrote:

damn nomen is that true? you would support someone on the basis of nra
only
like charlton heston?

wowee

maybe I can run for president

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 02:21 AM
Look it up yourself and see the other stuff she supports but says she
doesn't specially in the way she votes it is all public records. Her ,
Kerry and his vice president nominee forgot his name not worth knowing are
pushing a bill that would take weapons out of everyone hands. They way the
bill is written it included everybody including police officers they would
only be allowed to carry will on duty, no security officer would be able to
carry. The police association is up in arms about it

But since I am full of horsehit Search it for yourself instead of
dancing like a little monkey

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Sorry it should have been [email protected] but that was one of the nicest words I
>> could think of this morning for a woman that supports and is trying to
> take
>> weapons out of police officers hands
>>
>
> Oh what a crock of horse****, Matthew. Link, please?
>
>
>
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Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 02:30 AM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> There are 3 things never to be debated Sex, politics and religion but
>> get
>> me started and you will get my opinion
>> I never said I did or did not support Bush just I would vote for Jeb
>> Bush
>> instead of the that bitch Hillary Clinton.
>>
>
> Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is it?
> Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
> a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.
>
No comment Not even worth making a reply back to that

> And you don't get points for remembering Vietnam. All you were was
> THERE.
>

> My comments were perfectly rational and accurate. There are boys
> coming home in body bags because G.W. Bush had a grudge against
> Saddaam for dissing his daddy; Osama Bin Laden is still a free agent;
> the economy sucks and the deficit this moron has run up

Again for those not listening the first 60 days the president can be held
accountable for but not after Congress has to give the power to stay. And
before and after those first 60 day I remember America crying out for blood
and revenge called SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 DO YOU REMEMBER



while still being
> unable to find New Orleans on the map in a crisis is unforgivable.
>
Lets not even go there next thing you know someone is going to say he
directed the hurricanes toward there with a secret government device.
>
>

Keep on dancing little monkey I can hear that tune now. But done debating
tired of the crap I should have kept to my 3 rules on what never to debate

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 02:36 AM
I vote for you Barry

"Juice" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> damn nomen is that true? you would support someone on the basis of nra
> only
> like charlton heston?
>
> wowee
>
> maybe I can run for president
>

Juice
May 15th 06, 03:10 AM
Matthew aka NMR wrote:
> I vote for you Barry

lol

here, then you get a gun

anyone else?

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 03:22 AM
I own several, carry at all times and already am a life time member of the
NRA


"Juice" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>> I vote for you Barry
>
> lol
>
> here, then you get a gun
>
> anyone else?
>

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 03:24 AM
Barry the cop video was hilarious
"Juice" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>> I vote for you Barry
>
> lol
>
> here, then you get a gun
>
> anyone else?
>

-L.
May 15th 06, 03:24 AM
cybercat wrote:
> First, your comment regarding the Vietnam War constitute a non sequitur.
> They just
> do not follow, and if they did, it would be because you were smart enough
> not to want
> to see the same ****ing thing today that you saw then. You already have, and
> it goes like
> this: "young people dying for NOTHING but some imaginary cause in the minds
> of the fat
> white boys and (and of course, Condoleeza Rice),

She's a white boy too. Aunt Thomasina. But she's not fat.

> fighting a war they cannot
> win for which
> we have no exit strategy and from which no good can come." Sound familiar?
> And you
> sure can't rule out the draft yet, either.

What about the kids who signed up for *National Guard* and are now
being killed in the Middle East? Sounds like "draft" to me...

>Those numbers are running mighty
> thin, and once
> your numbnuts Republican heroes start a war with Iran they will be thinner.
>
>
> > So have you lost any friends or family in Iraq? Or are you just talking
> out your
> > ass?

We've lost a hell of a lot more than family and friends. We've lost
our future.

>
> This argument seems to be, I have to have experienced it to recognize it as
> a tragedy. Get your head out of your flabby ass. Recognize that smell? It is
> HORSE**** coming out of your head.
>
> >
> > At least in Iraq, every soldier there is a VOLUNTEER. They chose to
> > do that job. Nobody forced them.

I know a hell of alot of guardsmen who didn't volunteer to be hauled
off to Iraq...

>
> For now.
> >
> > Someone should explain that to that stupid bitch, Cindy Sheehan. Her
> > son volunteered. Every time she opens her mouth, she is ****ing on her
> > son's honor.
>
> I love this.
>
> >
> > >But then again, how about that economy?
> >
> > Let me clue you in. The economy is not that bad.

If you are in the top 10% of wage earners....


> Or do you believe
> > everything the liberal news organizations are telling you.
> > I'll admit, though, we're heading for a train wreck. But that's because
> > the "emerging nations" are beginning to kick our asses in the world
> > economy while Congress is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Maybe we should spend a little more money on education and technology
than on pointless wars we have no business waging and no promise of
winning? Just a thought... The US is becoming a nation of uneducated,
want-it-here-want-it-now, Walmart shopping, Dorito eating, trailer
trash ready to jump behind the latest "enemy" dredged up my Bush and
his cronies. Well, they are getting what they deserve.


> > News Flash - Steroid use in Major League baseball is way down the
> > list in national priorities.
> >
> > Another News Flash - The world is running out of oil. We've nearly hit
> > peak production. Saudi Arabia has past peak production. They're using
> > water injection on NEW WELLS just to keep production up. Do you
> > understand what that means?

Ummm...maybe we should have looked into alternative energy sources back
when Reagan started his presidency?


> > China and India are increasing their energy demand exponentially....and
> > cutting deals left and right to secure their energy needs for the next 25
> > years.
> > I was around in '74 to get a glinpse of what happens to this country when
> > we can't meet our energy demands. If we're not in Iraq to secure the oil
> > for our use......we damned well should be!
> >
> > It ****es me off every time I see these idiots protesting the war and
> chanting
> > "No Blood for Oil'. Then, after the protest......they get in their cars
> and SUVs
> > to drive home.
>
> You guys all sound the same, and you are full of horse****. Fossil fuel is
> NOT
> the only way to go, and even if it were, I am not convinced that "the world
> is
> running out of oil."

No, but it's a scare tactic they use as an excuse to rape and pollute
the arctic tundra...

<snip>

>
> Forgive me for not being impressed by the "prophecy" you think you see in
> outdated
> B movies.
>
> The fact is, you dried up old single-eyebrowed blowhard, you want anyone in
> office who supports
> the NRA.
>

God forbid anyone would take away his GUNS. If only he'd just use one
on himself...

-L.

-L.
May 15th 06, 03:27 AM
cybercat wrote:
>
> Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is it?
> Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
> a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.

Amen to that. Successful men are "powerful" and "leaders" - successful
women are "bitches" and "shrews".

>
> And you don't get points for remembering Vietnam. All you were was
> THERE.

Was he?

>
> My comments were perfectly rational and accurate. There are boys
> coming home in body bags because G.W. Bush had a grudge against
> Saddaam for dissing his daddy; Osama Bin Laden is still a free agent;
> the economy sucks and the deficit this moron has run up while still being
> unable to find New Orleans on the map in a crisis is unforgivable.
>
> I would personally lead a campaign to raise funds to pay comely young
> things to suck Bill Clinton's weewee on a regular basis if that could bring
> him back into office.

LOL...totally. Hell, I'd even blow him myself - and I think DH would
sponsor me!
-L.

Juice
May 15th 06, 04:12 AM
Matthew aka NMR wrote:
> Barry the cop video was hilarious

mhmm, very funny

ol boy skooled that fella right quick

http://tinyurl.com/n89jv

i still like this one too

http://tinyurl.com/eexcz

Juice
May 15th 06, 04:16 AM
Matthew aka NMR wrote:

> > anyone else?
> >

too funny, dude says, "you can change them while you're driving"
as if the wheel won't cause enough wrecks
http://tinyurl.com/eexcz

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 04:28 AM
I just got yelled at for cranking this one up
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2955071246853138724
I forgot what type of sounds system I have

"Juice" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>
>> > anyone else?
>> >
>
> too funny, dude says, "you can change them while you're driving"
> as if the wheel won't cause enough wrecks
> http://tinyurl.com/eexcz
>

May 15th 06, 04:47 AM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote:

>
>But since I am full of horsehit Search it for yourself instead of
>dancing like a little monkey

You brought it up so you back it up. Neocon bloggers spouting the
usual talking points don't count as a reference either.

-m

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 05:04 AM
I already said you all can look it up and it was not by bloggers either.
I am done arguing and debating useless arguments. I went against one of my
3 rules on debates and one of my major rules. I am stopping it and myself
before it goes to far and the flames turns to hatred and more venom being
spewed. I have had enough of bull**** debates and arguments. You want to
flame go ahead your choice I could care less. I am here to have fun, help
cat lovers if I can, enjoy myself and even make some new friends.
No More I say No More I am done If anyone can't handle that don't let the
door knob hit you where the god lord split ya

Rhonda
May 15th 06, 05:10 AM
-L. wrote:

> What about the kids who signed up for *National Guard* and are now being
> killed in the Middle East? Sounds like "draft" to me...

The draft is now on the back-end. You get shipped over to Iraq
again instead of getting out on your scheduled date.

> I know a hell of alot of guardsmen who didn't volunteer to be hauled off
> to Iraq...

I would love to hear what recruiters say to get all of these
"volunteers." They go in to small, poor towns with their impressive,
very clean uniforms and white shoes and tell all of these high schoolers
how wonderful it is to be in the military. They do not accurately
represent life in the military or let these kids know what they are
really getting in to.

Rhonda

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 05:21 AM
"Nomen Nescio" "L" "Cybercat"

We all need to end this ridiculous agruement all it is doing is casuing one
hell of a flame war. Hatred on boths sides is being spewed out. There is
no way to turn the opinions on 3 subjects sex, Religion, or Politics. Each
of us have our opinions there is no way to get either side to see either's
point. All it is doing it cauisng us to turn evil against one another.

Both side are wrong, Both side are right in each of their own ideas. They
only thing we all can agree with is Politics is nothing but bull**** always
has been and alwasy will be. There is only descent politicians right now
are these folks and even they have their problems as all politicians do
U.S. Senators Ted Stevens (R-AK) and Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) U.S. Reps. Tom
Lantos (D-CA) and Chris Shays (R-CT) Pets Evacuation and Transportation
Standards Act (PETS Act) sponsors

Juice
May 15th 06, 06:08 AM
Matthew aka NMR wrote:
> I just got yelled at for cranking this one up
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2955071246853138724
> I forgot what type of sounds system I have


you like that hip hop don't you Matt
shoulda just turned it up louder

especially the bass, rattle the windows

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 06:23 AM
I did why do you think I got yelled at she was on the other side of the
house and was rattling the walls I like that tune can't you tell he he


"Juice" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>> I just got yelled at for cranking this one up
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2955071246853138724
>> I forgot what type of sounds system I have
>
>
> you like that hip hop don't you Matt
> shoulda just turned it up louder
>
> especially the bass, rattle the windows
>

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 07:39 AM
Yeah here is some links Damn thing stalked her ass. Those things are scary
sometimes. I have had them pop up right in front of you eye to eye when I
was swimming before. I don't go in water I can't see the bottom any more
between sharks, hurricanes, alligators, old fart it ain't safe in Florida
anymore

They found 2 humans arms inside its stomach
look at the bottom of the page for all the othr stories about it
http://www.local6.com/news/9214255/detail.html
http://www.local6.com/news/9204051/detail.html
http://tinyurl.com/zyd9h



"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "Matthew aka NMR" >
>
>>We all need to end this ridiculous agruement all it is doing is casuing
>>one
>>hell of a flame war. Hatred on boths sides is being spewed out. There is
>>no way to turn the opinions on 3 subjects sex, Religion, or Politics.
>>Each
>>of us have our opinions there is no way to get either side to see either's
>>point. All it is doing it cauisng us to turn evil against one another.
>
> What????????
> You want to deny Lyn and Nancy their favorite hobby? :-)
>

No just personally tired of fighting I think Danny Glover said it the best I
am to old for this ****


> And besides, you and I are performing a public service by keeping
> their wrath directed against us instead of people who might actually
> give a damn.
>
I am not preforming anything ;-) I got pulled into to the deep end and I am
swimming for the surface

> Any news on that "killer 'gator"? Too bad that poor lady wasn't carrying
> a gun.
>
From what I am reading I don't think it would have helped

cybercat
May 15th 06, 07:43 AM
"Rhonda" > wrote in message
...
> -L. wrote:
>
> > What about the kids who signed up for *National Guard* and are now
being
> > killed in the Middle East? Sounds like "draft" to me...
>
> The draft is now on the back-end. You get shipped over to Iraq
> again instead of getting out on your scheduled date.
>
> > I know a hell of alot of guardsmen who didn't volunteer to be hauled
off
> > to Iraq...
>
> I would love to hear what recruiters say to get all of these
> "volunteers." They go in to small, poor towns with their impressive,
> very clean uniforms and white shoes and tell all of these high schoolers
> how wonderful it is to be in the military. They do not accurately
> represent life in the military or let these kids know what they are
> really getting in to.
>

This is one reason why Republicans love this War. Sure, "it is all
volunteer." But who will be attracted to being shipped to the desert
to fight people who see dying as a way to get to heaven, while using
vehicles without sufficient armor and knowing how thin the US forces
are stretched and will be stretched for a long time? Members of the
Young Republicans? Bush's buddy's sons from the country club?
The average suburban asshole's overfed, pinheaded son with his
inflated sense of entitlement? Young Tiffany whose idea of an adventure
is to have a pedicure at a strange salon?

Not quite. You see the ones the military appeals to on the news
every night, smiling out from photos their parents chose, smiles
from the lost and the dead and those who never had a ****ing chance
because they bought into the "honor" shuck and jive that our good
buddy "Nomen" the paid-my-dues-and-****-you mother****er is
selling. They are kids from the hills of West Virginia and streets of
DC and the ghettos of Detroit and other places where there are few
opportunities for the children of the working poor.

For some reason these girls do not look like George Bush's daughters,
born with a silver spoon in their noses, or the boys like George himself
when he
was a snotnosed n'er-do-well whose Daddy paid his way through
an Ivy League college. Many of them are browner much browner and
most are scrawnier, and all their clothes are funnier and most get a whole
lot more Walmart stuff in their care packages from home than "W" would
have ever gotten.

With a draft, the Republicans are outraged because their own
rednecked rightwing paunchy spoiled pups might actually have
to forgo a croissant or two.

I see their faces on TV and want to know why any of them are dying
at all--what good is it doing this country?

Aside from stroking the egos of the gun nuts and the half-witted,
hate-filled zombies of the religious right, George W. Bush has done
nothing positive at all for the majority of Americans. His daddy
had dog**** to offer as well. Jeb is of the same caliber. It's like
a family tradition. Dope-on-a-rope tied to the Good Old Boy
network of the past.

Long's ah kin keep mah gun an Save the Babies of the World,
Ah'm happy, eh boys?

Speaking of which, to those of you who are dedicated to
legislating what women do with their bodies, I would suggest
that you and your fairly (and otherwise) elected officials
see about taking care of the children who have already been
born before you attempt to impose your misguided, simpleminded
wills on the bodies of American women and the men who actually
love them. Here's a big warning: many of these babies are brown,
even DARK brown! And they are hungry and needy and they
are already here.

For my money, they are much more worthy of my time and
attention than the quest to force Ellie May and LaTonya to
bring to term babies when they are not even prepared to
take care of themselves.

Well now, that felt really nice. I call it "telling the truth," though
I have a friend who calls the voicing of any truth he does not
like "venting." As though said truth were manufactured just to
release tension. In his direction. In a way that annoys him to no
end. : D

That said, God Bless you, every one. (Yes, even you mother****ers
whose ignorance and arrogance amount to pure maliciousness.)

My God is a great big God. Kind and tolerant and fair and loving.

And My God can kick your God's narrowminded, brutal ass.

(Yes boys, that is me shaking the dick I do not have at you. You
know, the dick you imagine any woman who stands up to you has
to have in there, somewhere? The one that is bigger than yours?)







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-L.
May 15th 06, 09:11 AM
cybercat wrote:
> This is one reason why Republicans love this War. Sure, "it is all
> volunteer." But who will be attracted to being shipped to the desert
> to fight people who see dying as a way to get to heaven, while using
> vehicles without sufficient armor and knowing how thin the US forces
> are stretched and will be stretched for a long time? Members of the
> Young Republicans? Bush's buddy's sons from the country club?
> The average suburban asshole's overfed, pinheaded son with his
> inflated sense of entitlement? Young Tiffany whose idea of an adventure
> is to have a pedicure at a strange salon?
>
> Not quite. You see the ones the military appeals to on the news
> every night, smiling out from photos their parents chose, smiles
> from the lost and the dead and those who never had a ****ing chance
> because they bought into the "honor" shuck and jive that our good
> buddy "Nomen" the paid-my-dues-and-****-you mother****er is
> selling. They are kids from the hills of West Virginia and streets of
> DC and the ghettos of Detroit and other places where there are few
> opportunities for the children of the working poor.

Yep.

>
> For some reason these girls do not look like George Bush's daughters,
> born with a silver spoon in their noses, or the boys like George himself
> when he
> was a snotnosed n'er-do-well whose Daddy paid his way through
> an Ivy League college. Many of them are browner much browner and
> most are scrawnier, and all their clothes are funnier and most get a whole
> lot more Walmart stuff in their care packages from home than "W" would
> have ever gotten.

Yep.

>
> With a draft, the Republicans are outraged because their own
> rednecked rightwing paunchy spoiled pups might actually have
> to forgo a croissant or two.
>
> I see their faces on TV and want to know why any of them are dying
> at all--what good is it doing this country?
>
> Aside from stroking the egos of the gun nuts and the half-witted,
> hate-filled zombies of the religious right, George W. Bush has done
> nothing positive at all for the majority of Americans. His daddy
> had dog**** to offer as well. Jeb is of the same caliber. It's like
> a family tradition. Dope-on-a-rope tied to the Good Old Boy
> network of the past.

Corporate welfare is blossoming. Let's pop some bubbly!

>
> Long's ah kin keep mah gun an Save the Babies of the World,
> Ah'm happy, eh boys?
>
> Speaking of which, to those of you who are dedicated to
> legislating what women do with their bodies, I would suggest
> that you and your fairly (and otherwise) elected officials
> see about taking care of the children who have already been
> born before you attempt to impose your misguided, simpleminded
> wills on the bodies of American women and the men who actually
> love them. Here's a big warning: many of these babies are brown,
> even DARK brown! And they are hungry and needy and they
> are already here.

If they really gave a ****, they'd be adopting those brown-skinned
babies who now are lingering in fosterhomes for lack of families,
instead of worrying about a 14-day old clump of cells.

We were offered seven newborns a month or so ago - *seven*. And we
aren't even re-approved to adopt yet. They are desperate to place
these babies.


>
> For my money, they are much more worthy of my time and
> attention than the quest to force Ellie May and LaTonya to
> bring to term babies when they are not even prepared to
> take care of themselves.
>
> Well now, that felt really nice. I call it "telling the truth," though
> I have a friend who calls the voicing of any truth he does not
> like "venting." As though said truth were manufactured just to
> release tension. In his direction. In a way that annoys him to no
> end. : D
>
> That said, God Bless you, every one. (Yes, even you mother****ers
> whose ignorance and arrogance amount to pure maliciousness.)
>
> My God is a great big God. Kind and tolerant and fair and loving.
>
> And My God can kick your God's narrowminded, brutal ass.

You know, what really makes me sick is those mother****ers do all this
heinous bull**** under the supposed "guidance" of God. They claim to
be Christian and yet have to be some of the most horrible individuals
who have ever walked this Earth. The hypocricy is amazing.

>
> (Yes boys, that is me shaking the dick I do not have at you. You
> know, the dick you imagine any woman who stands up to you has
> to have in there, somewhere? The one that is bigger than yours?)

I must say, that's probably one of the best usenet posts I have read in
a long, long time. And to think it is *me* who is giving you that
compliment! Imagine that!

-L.

Matthew aka NMR
May 15th 06, 07:03 PM
There has been 3 separate attacks this week


http://www.local6.com/news/9214300/detail.html?treets=orlpn&tid=2653055048813&tml=orlpn_dailyforecast&tmi=orlpn_dailyforecast_1_04000205152006&ts=H


"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "Matthew aka NMR" >
>
>>Yeah here is some links Damn thing stalked her ass. Those things are
>>scary
>>sometimes. I have had them pop up right in front of you eye to eye when I
>>was swimming before. I don't go in water I can't see the bottom any more
>>between sharks, hurricanes, alligators, old fart it ain't safe in Florida
>>anymore
>>
>>They found 2 humans arms inside its stomach
>>look at the bottom of the page for all the othr stories about it
>>http://www.local6.com/news/9214255/detail.html
>>http://www.local6.com/news/9204051/detail.html
>>http://tinyurl.com/zyd9h
>
>
> Oh, wow. There were a couple of attacks. I only heard about
> one. The one that stalked that girl is a little unnerving.
>
>
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cybercat
May 15th 06, 07:09 PM
"-L." > wrote


> I must say, that's probably one of the best usenet posts I have read in
> a long, long time.

Why, thank you, Lyn. I withdrew somewhat after the election, and have
not had much to say, but I have been thinking, lol

>And to think it is *me* who is giving you that
> compliment! Imagine that!
>

Well, I always suspected we were on the same side politically.
<G>



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cybercat
May 15th 06, 07:30 PM
"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "cybercat" >
>
> >(Yes boys, that is me shaking the dick I do not have at you. You
> >know, the dick you imagine any woman who stands up to you has
> >to have in there, somewhere? The one that is bigger than yours?)
>
> Have you discussed your penis envy with your shrink?
>
> And BTW, the real reason that men treat you like an idiot

<G> Men don't treat me like an idiot.

>is that.......you are an idiot.

Oh, yes, I am sure that is apparent to everyone in the post to which
you are replying.

Just as your response conveys a message about your intellectual
capabilities.

Now then, I am finished. I think Samuel Clemens was right about
teaching a pig to sing. Piggy is clearly annoyed, WA hahaha.

HAND.



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P No Gree G O
May 15th 06, 09:59 PM
cybercat wrote:
> "P No Gree G O" > wrote
>
>>>>Why are you such an idiot?
>>>>
>>>I love to hear from you paragons of rational thought.
>>>Please, enlighten us further.
>>
>>No need. The fact that I don't think in ignorant broad strokes is good
>
> enough.
>
>
> Mmm hmm. I thought "why are you such an idiot" was pretty broad.
>
> Meanwhile no self-respecting Italian would drink the goat pee you have taken
> for your name.

Ouch. Guess you told me.

P No Gree G O
May 15th 06, 10:02 PM
-L. wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>
>>Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is it?
>>Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
>>a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.
>
>
> Amen to that. Successful men are "powerful" and "leaders" - successful
> women are "bitches" and "shrews".

Actually, I'm a very successful woman and no one, to my knowledge, has
ever called me a bitch or a shrew.

Ya know, it is possible that some women have just earned those monikers.

P No Gree G O
May 15th 06, 10:06 PM
cybercat wrote:

> "Rhonda" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>-L. wrote:
>>
>> > What about the kids who signed up for *National Guard* and are now
>
> being
>
>> > killed in the Middle East? Sounds like "draft" to me...
>>
>>The draft is now on the back-end. You get shipped over to Iraq
>>again instead of getting out on your scheduled date.
>>
>> > I know a hell of alot of guardsmen who didn't volunteer to be hauled
>
> off
>
>> > to Iraq...
>>
>>I would love to hear what recruiters say to get all of these
>>"volunteers." They go in to small, poor towns with their impressive,
>>very clean uniforms and white shoes and tell all of these high schoolers
>>how wonderful it is to be in the military. They do not accurately
>>represent life in the military or let these kids know what they are
>>really getting in to.
>>
>
>
> This is one reason why Republicans love this War. Sure, "it is all
> volunteer." But who will be attracted to being shipped to the desert
> to fight people who see dying as a way to get to heaven, while using
> vehicles without sufficient armor and knowing how thin the US forces
> are stretched and will be stretched for a long time? Members of the
> Young Republicans? Bush's buddy's sons from the country club?
> The average suburban asshole's overfed, pinheaded son with his
> inflated sense of entitlement? Young Tiffany whose idea of an adventure
> is to have a pedicure at a strange salon?
>
> Not quite. You see the ones the military appeals to on the news
> every night, smiling out from photos their parents chose, smiles
> from the lost and the dead and those who never had a ****ing chance
> because they bought into the "honor" shuck and jive that our good
> buddy "Nomen" the paid-my-dues-and-****-you mother****er is
> selling. They are kids from the hills of West Virginia and streets of
> DC and the ghettos of Detroit and other places where there are few
> opportunities for the children of the working poor.
>
> For some reason these girls do not look like George Bush's daughters,
> born with a silver spoon in their noses, or the boys like George himself
> when he
> was a snotnosed n'er-do-well whose Daddy paid his way through
> an Ivy League college. Many of them are browner much browner and
> most are scrawnier, and all their clothes are funnier and most get a whole
> lot more Walmart stuff in their care packages from home than "W" would
> have ever gotten.
>
> With a draft, the Republicans are outraged because their own
> rednecked rightwing paunchy spoiled pups might actually have
> to forgo a croissant or two.
>
> I see their faces on TV and want to know why any of them are dying
> at all--what good is it doing this country?
>
> Aside from stroking the egos of the gun nuts and the half-witted,
> hate-filled zombies of the religious right, George W. Bush has done
> nothing positive at all for the majority of Americans. His daddy
> had dog**** to offer as well. Jeb is of the same caliber. It's like
> a family tradition. Dope-on-a-rope tied to the Good Old Boy
> network of the past.
>
> Long's ah kin keep mah gun an Save the Babies of the World,
> Ah'm happy, eh boys?
>
> Speaking of which, to those of you who are dedicated to
> legislating what women do with their bodies, I would suggest
> that you and your fairly (and otherwise) elected officials
> see about taking care of the children who have already been
> born before you attempt to impose your misguided, simpleminded
> wills on the bodies of American women and the men who actually
> love them. Here's a big warning: many of these babies are brown,
> even DARK brown! And they are hungry and needy and they
> are already here.
>
> For my money, they are much more worthy of my time and
> attention than the quest to force Ellie May and LaTonya to
> bring to term babies when they are not even prepared to
> take care of themselves.
>
> Well now, that felt really nice. I call it "telling the truth," though
> I have a friend who calls the voicing of any truth he does not
> like "venting." As though said truth were manufactured just to
> release tension. In his direction. In a way that annoys him to no
> end. : D
>
> That said, God Bless you, every one. (Yes, even you mother****ers
> whose ignorance and arrogance amount to pure maliciousness.)
>
> My God is a great big God. Kind and tolerant and fair and loving.
>
> And My God can kick your God's narrowminded, brutal ass.
>
> (Yes boys, that is me shaking the dick I do not have at you. You
> know, the dick you imagine any woman who stands up to you has
> to have in there, somewhere? The one that is bigger than yours?)
>


Wow, you really need to get laid.

cybercat
May 15th 06, 10:08 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
> > "P No Gree G O" > wrote
> >
> >>>>Why are you such an idiot?
> >>>>
> >>>I love to hear from you paragons of rational thought.
> >>>Please, enlighten us further.
> >>
> >>No need. The fact that I don't think in ignorant broad strokes is good
> >
> > enough.
> >
> >
> > Mmm hmm. I thought "why are you such an idiot" was pretty broad.
> >
> > Meanwhile no self-respecting Italian would drink the goat pee you have
taken
> > for your name.
>
> Ouch. Guess you told me.
>

Honestly. Italians suck at white wines.



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cybercat
May 15th 06, 10:09 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
> -L. wrote:
>
> > cybercat wrote:
> >
> >>Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is
it?
> >>Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
> >>a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.
> >
> >
> > Amen to that. Successful men are "powerful" and "leaders" - successful
> > women are "bitches" and "shrews".
>
> Actually, I'm a very successful woman and no one, to my knowledge, has
> ever called me a bitch or a shrew.
>
> Ya know, it is possible that some women have just earned those monikers.
>

This is true. Nobody said there was only one reason men call women bitches.



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P No Gree G O
May 15th 06, 10:30 PM
cybercat wrote:

> "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>cybercat wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Rhonda" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>-L. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What about the kids who signed up for *National Guard* and are now
>>>
>>>being
>>>
>>>
>>>>> killed in the Middle East? Sounds like "draft" to me...
>>>>
>>>>The draft is now on the back-end. You get shipped over to Iraq
>>>>again instead of getting out on your scheduled date.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I know a hell of alot of guardsmen who didn't volunteer to be hauled
>>>
>>>off
>>>
>>>
>>>>> to Iraq...
>>>>
>>>>I would love to hear what recruiters say to get all of these
>>>>"volunteers." They go in to small, poor towns with their impressive,
>>>>very clean uniforms and white shoes and tell all of these high schoolers
>>>>how wonderful it is to be in the military. They do not accurately
>>>>represent life in the military or let these kids know what they are
>>>>really getting in to.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This is one reason why Republicans love this War. Sure, "it is all
>>>volunteer." But who will be attracted to being shipped to the desert
>>>to fight people who see dying as a way to get to heaven, while using
>>>vehicles without sufficient armor and knowing how thin the US forces
>>>are stretched and will be stretched for a long time? Members of the
>>>Young Republicans? Bush's buddy's sons from the country club?
>>>The average suburban asshole's overfed, pinheaded son with his
>>>inflated sense of entitlement? Young Tiffany whose idea of an adventure
>>>is to have a pedicure at a strange salon?
>>>
>>>Not quite. You see the ones the military appeals to on the news
>>>every night, smiling out from photos their parents chose, smiles
>>>from the lost and the dead and those who never had a ****ing chance
>>>because they bought into the "honor" shuck and jive that our good
>>>buddy "Nomen" the paid-my-dues-and-****-you mother****er is
>>>selling. They are kids from the hills of West Virginia and streets of
>>>DC and the ghettos of Detroit and other places where there are few
>>>opportunities for the children of the working poor.
>>>
>>>For some reason these girls do not look like George Bush's daughters,
>>>born with a silver spoon in their noses, or the boys like George himself
>>>when he
>>>was a snotnosed n'er-do-well whose Daddy paid his way through
>>>an Ivy League college. Many of them are browner much browner and
>>>most are scrawnier, and all their clothes are funnier and most get a
>
> whole
>
>>>lot more Walmart stuff in their care packages from home than "W" would
>>>have ever gotten.
>>>
>>>With a draft, the Republicans are outraged because their own
>>>rednecked rightwing paunchy spoiled pups might actually have
>>>to forgo a croissant or two.
>>>
>>>I see their faces on TV and want to know why any of them are dying
>>>at all--what good is it doing this country?
>>>
>>>Aside from stroking the egos of the gun nuts and the half-witted,
>>>hate-filled zombies of the religious right, George W. Bush has done
>>>nothing positive at all for the majority of Americans. His daddy
>>>had dog**** to offer as well. Jeb is of the same caliber. It's like
>>>a family tradition. Dope-on-a-rope tied to the Good Old Boy
>>>network of the past.
>>>
>>>Long's ah kin keep mah gun an Save the Babies of the World,
>>>Ah'm happy, eh boys?
>>>
>>>Speaking of which, to those of you who are dedicated to
>>>legislating what women do with their bodies, I would suggest
>>>that you and your fairly (and otherwise) elected officials
>>>see about taking care of the children who have already been
>>>born before you attempt to impose your misguided, simpleminded
>>>wills on the bodies of American women and the men who actually
>>>love them. Here's a big warning: many of these babies are brown,
>>>even DARK brown! And they are hungry and needy and they
>>>are already here.
>>>
>>>For my money, they are much more worthy of my time and
>>>attention than the quest to force Ellie May and LaTonya to
>>>bring to term babies when they are not even prepared to
>>>take care of themselves.
>>>
>>>Well now, that felt really nice. I call it "telling the truth," though
>>>I have a friend who calls the voicing of any truth he does not
>>>like "venting." As though said truth were manufactured just to
>>>release tension. In his direction. In a way that annoys him to no
>>>end. : D
>>>
>>>That said, God Bless you, every one. (Yes, even you mother****ers
>>>whose ignorance and arrogance amount to pure maliciousness.)
>>>
>>>My God is a great big God. Kind and tolerant and fair and loving.
>>>
>>>And My God can kick your God's narrowminded, brutal ass.
>>>
>>>(Yes boys, that is me shaking the dick I do not have at you. You
>>>know, the dick you imagine any woman who stands up to you has
>>>to have in there, somewhere? The one that is bigger than yours?)
>>>
>>
>>
>>Wow, you really need to get laid.
>>
>
>
> And here we have, my friends, another stellar example of the Republican
> mindset. I rest my case.
>

HINT: 1. I'm not a Republican. 2. Grow a sense of humor.

cybercat
May 15th 06, 11:14 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>
> > "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>cybercat wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Rhonda" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-L. wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>What about the kids who signed up for *National Guard* and are now
> >>>
> >>>being
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> killed in the Middle East? Sounds like "draft" to me...
> >>>>
> >>>>The draft is now on the back-end. You get shipped over to Iraq
> >>>>again instead of getting out on your scheduled date.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I know a hell of alot of guardsmen who didn't volunteer to be hauled
> >>>
> >>>off
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> to Iraq...
> >>>>
> >>>>I would love to hear what recruiters say to get all of these
> >>>>"volunteers." They go in to small, poor towns with their impressive,
> >>>>very clean uniforms and white shoes and tell all of these high
schoolers
> >>>>how wonderful it is to be in the military. They do not accurately
> >>>>represent life in the military or let these kids know what they are
> >>>>really getting in to.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>This is one reason why Republicans love this War. Sure, "it is all
> >>>volunteer." But who will be attracted to being shipped to the desert
> >>>to fight people who see dying as a way to get to heaven, while using
> >>>vehicles without sufficient armor and knowing how thin the US forces
> >>>are stretched and will be stretched for a long time? Members of the
> >>>Young Republicans? Bush's buddy's sons from the country club?
> >>>The average suburban asshole's overfed, pinheaded son with his
> >>>inflated sense of entitlement? Young Tiffany whose idea of an adventure
> >>>is to have a pedicure at a strange salon?
> >>>
> >>>Not quite. You see the ones the military appeals to on the news
> >>>every night, smiling out from photos their parents chose, smiles
> >>>from the lost and the dead and those who never had a ****ing chance
> >>>because they bought into the "honor" shuck and jive that our good
> >>>buddy "Nomen" the paid-my-dues-and-****-you mother****er is
> >>>selling. They are kids from the hills of West Virginia and streets of
> >>>DC and the ghettos of Detroit and other places where there are few
> >>>opportunities for the children of the working poor.
> >>>
> >>>For some reason these girls do not look like George Bush's daughters,
> >>>born with a silver spoon in their noses, or the boys like George
himself
> >>>when he
> >>>was a snotnosed n'er-do-well whose Daddy paid his way through
> >>>an Ivy League college. Many of them are browner much browner and
> >>>most are scrawnier, and all their clothes are funnier and most get a
> >
> > whole
> >
> >>>lot more Walmart stuff in their care packages from home than "W" would
> >>>have ever gotten.
> >>>
> >>>With a draft, the Republicans are outraged because their own
> >>>rednecked rightwing paunchy spoiled pups might actually have
> >>>to forgo a croissant or two.
> >>>
> >>>I see their faces on TV and want to know why any of them are dying
> >>>at all--what good is it doing this country?
> >>>
> >>>Aside from stroking the egos of the gun nuts and the half-witted,
> >>>hate-filled zombies of the religious right, George W. Bush has done
> >>>nothing positive at all for the majority of Americans. His daddy
> >>>had dog**** to offer as well. Jeb is of the same caliber. It's like
> >>>a family tradition. Dope-on-a-rope tied to the Good Old Boy
> >>>network of the past.
> >>>
> >>>Long's ah kin keep mah gun an Save the Babies of the World,
> >>>Ah'm happy, eh boys?
> >>>
> >>>Speaking of which, to those of you who are dedicated to
> >>>legislating what women do with their bodies, I would suggest
> >>>that you and your fairly (and otherwise) elected officials
> >>>see about taking care of the children who have already been
> >>>born before you attempt to impose your misguided, simpleminded
> >>>wills on the bodies of American women and the men who actually
> >>>love them. Here's a big warning: many of these babies are brown,
> >>>even DARK brown! And they are hungry and needy and they
> >>>are already here.
> >>>
> >>>For my money, they are much more worthy of my time and
> >>>attention than the quest to force Ellie May and LaTonya to
> >>>bring to term babies when they are not even prepared to
> >>>take care of themselves.
> >>>
> >>>Well now, that felt really nice. I call it "telling the truth," though
> >>>I have a friend who calls the voicing of any truth he does not
> >>>like "venting." As though said truth were manufactured just to
> >>>release tension. In his direction. In a way that annoys him to no
> >>>end. : D
> >>>
> >>>That said, God Bless you, every one. (Yes, even you mother****ers
> >>>whose ignorance and arrogance amount to pure maliciousness.)
> >>>
> >>>My God is a great big God. Kind and tolerant and fair and loving.
> >>>
> >>>And My God can kick your God's narrowminded, brutal ass.
> >>>
> >>>(Yes boys, that is me shaking the dick I do not have at you. You
> >>>know, the dick you imagine any woman who stands up to you has
> >>>to have in there, somewhere? The one that is bigger than yours?)
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>Wow, you really need to get laid.
> >>
> >
> >
> > And here we have, my friends, another stellar example of the Republican
> > mindset. I rest my case.
> >
>
> HINT: 1. I'm not a Republican.

Did I SAY you were a Republican? No, I did not. I merely pointed out that
your witty repartee is characteristic of that of the Republican mindset. The
brilliance, the originality, the pithy, relevant points.

>2. Grow a sense of humor.

Well, you've got me there. Anyone can tell that I am severely lacking in
that department.



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CatNipped
May 16th 06, 12:56 AM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> ...
>> cybercat wrote:
>>
>> > "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> >>cybercat wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>"Rhonda" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>-L. wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>What about the kids who signed up for *National Guard* and are now
>> >>>
>> >>>being
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>> killed in the Middle East? Sounds like "draft" to me...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>The draft is now on the back-end. You get shipped over to Iraq
>> >>>>again instead of getting out on your scheduled date.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>I know a hell of alot of guardsmen who didn't volunteer to be hauled
>> >>>
>> >>>off
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>> to Iraq...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I would love to hear what recruiters say to get all of these
>> >>>>"volunteers." They go in to small, poor towns with their impressive,
>> >>>>very clean uniforms and white shoes and tell all of these high
> schoolers
>> >>>>how wonderful it is to be in the military. They do not accurately
>> >>>>represent life in the military or let these kids know what they are
>> >>>>really getting in to.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>This is one reason why Republicans love this War. Sure, "it is all
>> >>>volunteer." But who will be attracted to being shipped to the desert
>> >>>to fight people who see dying as a way to get to heaven, while using
>> >>>vehicles without sufficient armor and knowing how thin the US forces
>> >>>are stretched and will be stretched for a long time? Members of the
>> >>>Young Republicans? Bush's buddy's sons from the country club?
>> >>>The average suburban asshole's overfed, pinheaded son with his
>> >>>inflated sense of entitlement? Young Tiffany whose idea of an
>> >>>adventure
>> >>>is to have a pedicure at a strange salon?
>> >>>
>> >>>Not quite. You see the ones the military appeals to on the news
>> >>>every night, smiling out from photos their parents chose, smiles
>> >>>from the lost and the dead and those who never had a ****ing chance
>> >>>because they bought into the "honor" shuck and jive that our good
>> >>>buddy "Nomen" the paid-my-dues-and-****-you mother****er is
>> >>>selling. They are kids from the hills of West Virginia and streets of
>> >>>DC and the ghettos of Detroit and other places where there are few
>> >>>opportunities for the children of the working poor.
>> >>>
>> >>>For some reason these girls do not look like George Bush's daughters,
>> >>>born with a silver spoon in their noses, or the boys like George
> himself
>> >>>when he
>> >>>was a snotnosed n'er-do-well whose Daddy paid his way through
>> >>>an Ivy League college. Many of them are browner much browner and
>> >>>most are scrawnier, and all their clothes are funnier and most get a
>> >
>> > whole
>> >
>> >>>lot more Walmart stuff in their care packages from home than "W" would
>> >>>have ever gotten.
>> >>>
>> >>>With a draft, the Republicans are outraged because their own
>> >>>rednecked rightwing paunchy spoiled pups might actually have
>> >>>to forgo a croissant or two.
>> >>>
>> >>>I see their faces on TV and want to know why any of them are dying
>> >>>at all--what good is it doing this country?
>> >>>
>> >>>Aside from stroking the egos of the gun nuts and the half-witted,
>> >>>hate-filled zombies of the religious right, George W. Bush has done
>> >>>nothing positive at all for the majority of Americans. His daddy
>> >>>had dog**** to offer as well. Jeb is of the same caliber. It's like
>> >>>a family tradition. Dope-on-a-rope tied to the Good Old Boy
>> >>>network of the past.
>> >>>
>> >>>Long's ah kin keep mah gun an Save the Babies of the World,
>> >>>Ah'm happy, eh boys?
>> >>>
>> >>>Speaking of which, to those of you who are dedicated to
>> >>>legislating what women do with their bodies, I would suggest
>> >>>that you and your fairly (and otherwise) elected officials
>> >>>see about taking care of the children who have already been
>> >>>born before you attempt to impose your misguided, simpleminded
>> >>>wills on the bodies of American women and the men who actually
>> >>>love them. Here's a big warning: many of these babies are brown,
>> >>>even DARK brown! And they are hungry and needy and they
>> >>>are already here.
>> >>>
>> >>>For my money, they are much more worthy of my time and
>> >>>attention than the quest to force Ellie May and LaTonya to
>> >>>bring to term babies when they are not even prepared to
>> >>>take care of themselves.
>> >>>
>> >>>Well now, that felt really nice. I call it "telling the truth," though
>> >>>I have a friend who calls the voicing of any truth he does not
>> >>>like "venting." As though said truth were manufactured just to
>> >>>release tension. In his direction. In a way that annoys him to no
>> >>>end. : D
>> >>>
>> >>>That said, God Bless you, every one. (Yes, even you mother****ers
>> >>>whose ignorance and arrogance amount to pure maliciousness.)
>> >>>
>> >>>My God is a great big God. Kind and tolerant and fair and loving.
>> >>>
>> >>>And My God can kick your God's narrowminded, brutal ass.
>> >>>
>> >>>(Yes boys, that is me shaking the dick I do not have at you. You
>> >>>know, the dick you imagine any woman who stands up to you has
>> >>>to have in there, somewhere? The one that is bigger than yours?)
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Wow, you really need to get laid.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > And here we have, my friends, another stellar example of the Republican
>> > mindset. I rest my case.
>> >
>>
>> HINT: 1. I'm not a Republican.
>
> Did I SAY you were a Republican? No, I did not. I merely pointed out that
> your witty repartee is characteristic of that of the Republican mindset.
> The
> brilliance, the originality, the pithy, relevant points.
>
>>2. Grow a sense of humor.
>
> Well, you've got me there. Anyone can tell that I am severely lacking in
> that department.

Not hardly! For some people, it's only ever humor when the joke is on the
other person. Then there are people like you (and, humbly, me) who can
laugh at ourselves (in fact I find I'm the funniest creature to ever
slapstick my way through life).

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

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>
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CatNipped
May 16th 06, 12:59 AM
"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
> Of course you can rule out a draft. Women would have to be drafted
> in equal proportion to men, now (hey.....equal right = equal
> responsibility).
> Nobody wants to face the political fallout of 100 million screaming
> bitches.

ROTFLMAOWTIME!


--

Hugs,

CatNipped <---- Proud to be called a screaming bitch!

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

cybercat
May 16th 06, 01:06 AM
"CatNipped" > wrote
> > Well, you've got me there. Anyone can tell that I am severely lacking in
> > that department.
>
> Not hardly! For some people, it's only ever humor when the joke is on the
> other person. Then there are people like you (and, humbly, me) who can
> laugh at ourselves (in fact I find I'm the funniest creature to ever
> slapstick my way through life).
>
> --
>

Well, hey, doll, how have you been?! (I must admit that I, like you, also
crack myself up. My dad was like that--the funniest thing about when
he told a joke was the way he cracked up when he did.)

What is happening with your kitties? I pop in over there in Stepford land
every now and then, but have not today. You are missed over here, wish
you would post more.



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CatNipped
May 16th 06, 01:29 AM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "CatNipped" > wrote
>> > Well, you've got me there. Anyone can tell that I am severely lacking
>> > in
>> > that department.
>>
>> Not hardly! For some people, it's only ever humor when the joke is on
>> the
>> other person. Then there are people like you (and, humbly, me) who can
>> laugh at ourselves (in fact I find I'm the funniest creature to ever
>> slapstick my way through life).
>>
>> --
>>
>
> Well, hey, doll, how have you been?! (I must admit that I, like you, also
> crack myself up. My dad was like that--the funniest thing about when
> he told a joke was the way he cracked up when he did.)

I've been working hard getting more BS web sites published to that vast
wasteland we call the internet - the nerve of my boss actually asking that I
*DO* something for the money he gives me! ;>

>
> What is happening with your kitties? I pop in over there in Stepford land
> every now and then, but have not today. You are missed over here, wish
> you would post more.

Bandit's going downhill lately - she's becoming blind, which the latest in a
series of vets says may be caused by a tumor on the front underside of her
brain. I would say she's also becoming senile, but she's always been crazy.
I shouldn't laugh, but she's so mean she beats herself up... Since she's
having trouble seeing, her flicking tail will slap her in the side of her
head and she doesn't realize it's her own tail. She'll starting yowling and
slapping at it, and the more perturbed she gets the harder the tail flicks
and the the harder the tail flicks the more perturbed it makes her!

All the other kitties are fine. Sammy is now tipping the scales at 17
pounds!!!! We call her the Incredible Bulk (or Samazon, or Catzilla, or
just Wide Load for short). Here are some pictures with Jessie (who is a
average sized cat at 7.5 pounds).

I haven't been posting here because of the nonsense. I don't mind the off
topic posts, the flame wars, or even the "please advise, my cat's leg is
hanging by a thread" stupidity - but the inanity has become mind numbing and
just too voluminous to bother wading through (don't you love it when Barry
and NMR start one of their mutual masterbation threads??!).

Hugs,

CatNipped

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CatNipped
May 16th 06, 01:31 AM
"CatNipped" > wrote in message
...
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "CatNipped" > wrote
>>> > Well, you've got me there. Anyone can tell that I am severely lacking
>>> > in
>>> > that department.
>>>
>>> Not hardly! For some people, it's only ever humor when the joke is on
>>> the
>>> other person. Then there are people like you (and, humbly, me) who can
>>> laugh at ourselves (in fact I find I'm the funniest creature to ever
>>> slapstick my way through life).
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>
>> Well, hey, doll, how have you been?! (I must admit that I, like you, also
>> crack myself up. My dad was like that--the funniest thing about when
>> he told a joke was the way he cracked up when he did.)
>
> I've been working hard getting more BS web sites published to that vast
> wasteland we call the internet - the nerve of my boss actually asking that
> I *DO* something for the money he gives me! ;>
>
>>
>> What is happening with your kitties? I pop in over there in Stepford land
>> every now and then, but have not today. You are missed over here, wish
>> you would post more.
>
> Bandit's going downhill lately - she's becoming blind, which the latest in
> a series of vets says may be caused by a tumor on the front underside of
> her brain. I would say she's also becoming senile, but she's always been
> crazy. I shouldn't laugh, but she's so mean she beats herself up... Since
> she's having trouble seeing, her flicking tail will slap her in the side
> of her head and she doesn't realize it's her own tail. She'll starting
> yowling and slapping at it, and the more perturbed she gets the harder the
> tail flicks and the the harder the tail flicks the more perturbed it makes
> her!
>
> All the other kitties are fine. Sammy is now tipping the scales at 17
> pounds!!!! We call her the Incredible Bulk (or Samazon, or Catzilla, or
> just Wide Load for short). Here are some pictures with Jessie (who is a
> average sized cat at 7.5 pounds).

Oops, forgot the link... http://www.possibleplaces.com/CatNipped/Jessie17/

Hugs,

CatNipped

>
> I haven't been posting here because of the nonsense. I don't mind the off
> topic posts, the flame wars, or even the "please advise, my cat's leg is
> hanging by a thread" stupidity - but the inanity has become mind numbing
> and just too voluminous to bother wading through (don't you love it when
> Barry and NMR start one of their mutual masterbation threads??!).
>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped
>
>> Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita
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>
>

Juice
May 16th 06, 03:38 AM
this is a nasty place

no place for a lady to hang out
welcome back for the evening

SO glad you could stop by and bleed on us

CatNipped wrote:
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "CatNipped" > wrote
> >> > Well, you've got me there. Anyone can tell that I am severely lacking
> >> > in
> >> > that department.
> >>
> >> Not hardly! For some people, it's only ever humor when the joke is on
> >> the
> >> other person. Then there are people like you (and, humbly, me) who can
> >> laugh at ourselves (in fact I find I'm the funniest creature to ever
> >> slapstick my way through life).
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >
> > Well, hey, doll, how have you been?! (I must admit that I, like you, also
> > crack myself up. My dad was like that--the funniest thing about when
> > he told a joke was the way he cracked up when he did.)
>
> I've been working hard getting more BS web sites published to that vast
> wasteland we call the internet - the nerve of my boss actually asking that I
> *DO* something for the money he gives me! ;>
>
> >
> > What is happening with your kitties? I pop in over there in Stepford land
> > every now and then, but have not today. You are missed over here, wish
> > you would post more.
>
> Bandit's going downhill lately - she's becoming blind, which the latest in a
> series of vets says may be caused by a tumor on the front underside of her
> brain. I would say she's also becoming senile, but she's always been crazy.
> I shouldn't laugh, but she's so mean she beats herself up... Since she's
> having trouble seeing, her flicking tail will slap her in the side of her
> head and she doesn't realize it's her own tail. She'll starting yowling and
> slapping at it, and the more perturbed she gets the harder the tail flicks
> and the the harder the tail flicks the more perturbed it makes her!
>
> All the other kitties are fine. Sammy is now tipping the scales at 17
> pounds!!!! We call her the Incredible Bulk (or Samazon, or Catzilla, or
> just Wide Load for short). Here are some pictures with Jessie (who is a
> average sized cat at 7.5 pounds).
>
> I haven't been posting here because of the nonsense. I don't mind the off
> topic posts, the flame wars, or even the "please advise, my cat's leg is
> hanging by a thread" stupidity - but the inanity has become mind numbing and
> just too voluminous to bother wading through (don't you love it when Barry
> and NMR start one of their mutual masterbation threads??!).
>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped
>
> > Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita
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CatNipped
May 16th 06, 03:51 AM
"Juice" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> this is a nasty place
>
> no place for a lady to hang out
> welcome back for the evening
>
> SO glad you could stop by and bleed on us

LOL! Hi Barry, brought the K-Y? ;>

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/



>
> CatNipped wrote:
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "CatNipped" > wrote
>> >> > Well, you've got me there. Anyone can tell that I am severely
>> >> > lacking
>> >> > in
>> >> > that department.
>> >>
>> >> Not hardly! For some people, it's only ever humor when the joke is on
>> >> the
>> >> other person. Then there are people like you (and, humbly, me) who
>> >> can
>> >> laugh at ourselves (in fact I find I'm the funniest creature to ever
>> >> slapstick my way through life).
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >
>> > Well, hey, doll, how have you been?! (I must admit that I, like you,
>> > also
>> > crack myself up. My dad was like that--the funniest thing about when
>> > he told a joke was the way he cracked up when he did.)
>>
>> I've been working hard getting more BS web sites published to that vast
>> wasteland we call the internet - the nerve of my boss actually asking
>> that I
>> *DO* something for the money he gives me! ;>
>>
>> >
>> > What is happening with your kitties? I pop in over there in Stepford
>> > land
>> > every now and then, but have not today. You are missed over here, wish
>> > you would post more.
>>
>> Bandit's going downhill lately - she's becoming blind, which the latest
>> in a
>> series of vets says may be caused by a tumor on the front underside of
>> her
>> brain. I would say she's also becoming senile, but she's always been
>> crazy.
>> I shouldn't laugh, but she's so mean she beats herself up... Since she's
>> having trouble seeing, her flicking tail will slap her in the side of her
>> head and she doesn't realize it's her own tail. She'll starting yowling
>> and
>> slapping at it, and the more perturbed she gets the harder the tail
>> flicks
>> and the the harder the tail flicks the more perturbed it makes her!
>>
>> All the other kitties are fine. Sammy is now tipping the scales at 17
>> pounds!!!! We call her the Incredible Bulk (or Samazon, or Catzilla, or
>> just Wide Load for short). Here are some pictures with Jessie (who is a
>> average sized cat at 7.5 pounds).
>>
>> I haven't been posting here because of the nonsense. I don't mind the
>> off
>> topic posts, the flame wars, or even the "please advise, my cat's leg is
>> hanging by a thread" stupidity - but the inanity has become mind numbing
>> and
>> just too voluminous to bother wading through (don't you love it when
>> Barry
>> and NMR start one of their mutual masterbation threads??!).
>>
>> Hugs,
>>
>> CatNipped
>>
>> > Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita
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>

BulletProof
May 16th 06, 04:14 AM
CatNipped wrote:
> "Juice" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > this is a nasty place
> >
> > no place for a lady to hang out
> > welcome back for the evening
> >
> > SO glad you could stop by and bleed on us
>
> LOL! Hi Barry, brought the K-Y? ;>
>

frash out, just put some spit on it

BulletProof
May 16th 06, 06:01 AM
P No Gree G O wrote:
> -L. wrote:
>
> > cybercat wrote:
> >
> >>Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is it?
> >>Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
> >>a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.
> >
> >
> > Amen to that. Successful men are "powerful" and "leaders" - successful
> > women are "bitches" and "shrews".
>
> Actually, I'm a very successful woman

Hello

> and no one, to my knowledge, has
> ever called me a bitch or a shrew.

that's because nobody resents anyone for doing well..(maybe a few
froggy exceptions)
but it is beyond the people i deal with in person as to why anyone
would have contempt for anyone where there is no cause. it's not even a
gender issue.

there's an old saying that familiarity breeds contempt

cybercat
May 16th 06, 06:17 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> P No Gree G O wrote:
> > -L. wrote:
> >
> > > cybercat wrote:
> > >
> > >>Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is
it?
> > >>Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
> > >>a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.
> > >
> > >
> > > Amen to that. Successful men are "powerful" and "leaders" -
successful
> > > women are "bitches" and "shrews".
> >
> > Actually, I'm a very successful woman
>
> Hello
>
> > and no one, to my knowledge, has
> > ever called me a bitch or a shrew.
>
> that's because nobody resents anyone for doing well..(maybe a few
> froggy exceptions)
> but it is beyond the people i deal with in person as to why anyone
> would have contempt for anyone where there is no cause. it's not even a
> gender issue.
>
> there's an old saying that familiarity breeds contempt
>

You bet. Hey, Pinot Grigio is a very successful woman and a bonehead too!

wink wink



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cybercat
May 16th 06, 06:39 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> P No Gree G O wrote:
> > -L. wrote:
> >
> > > cybercat wrote:
> > >
> > >>Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is
it?
> > >>Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
> > >>a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.
> > >
> > >
> > > Amen to that. Successful men are "powerful" and "leaders" -
successful
> > > women are "bitches" and "shrews".
> >
> > Actually, I'm a very successful woman
>
> Hello
>
> > and no one, to my knowledge, has
> > ever called me a bitch or a shrew.
>
> that's because nobody resents anyone for doing well..(maybe a few
> froggy exceptions)

Are you sure about that, Barry? Or is it that nobody resents anyone
for doing well as long as they 1) share the proceeds and/or 2) stroke the
egos of the ones who do not do so well.

> but it is beyond the people i deal with in person

What kind of people would these be, son? I would love
to hear all about this caliber of people who never resent
the success of anyone even though it is very likely there are
among them both average people, exceptional people and
the dregs of the dregs, ignorant, stupid, mean-spirited AND
niggardly. You know, the kind of people for whom you
might do some construction work who then refuse to even
pay you a token sum?

>as to why anyone
> would have contempt for anyone where there is no cause. it's not even a
> gender issue.
>

Oh, yes, there is always a cause, it is just that sometimes the cause is
just and
sometimes it is not. In the case of Hillary Clinton, there are a lot of men
who
resent the fact that she breaks the male-dominant tradition of the powerful
and successful politician.

Yes, indeed, there is always a cause. There are so many little icky people
who are unhappy about their own shortcomings, all the opportunities they
have missed. Sometimes it is a gender issue, sometimes it is not. For
example, there
are men who are abject failures who really do get frustrated and
embittered toward other men ... and women ... who have spent their
lives in, shall we say, more productive ways. There are women who
resent men for their independence.

> there's an old saying that familiarity breeds contempt

This really is true, especially when the better you get to know
someone the more disgusting you find out they really are.

Of course, there are also lots of cases in which the closer you get,
the better someone looks. Familiarity does not *always* breed
contempt. When it does, the inspiration for the contempt is often
someone who is deceptive, such as a would-be con man who nevertheless
does not have what it takes to pull even that sleazy task off. And hell
hath no fury like a thwarted bonehead--so, said failed con artist might
actually resent the intended target of his failed plan.

Or a lonely old lady who recognizes a shiftless man as "on-the-take"
and so leads him on, enticing him to keep her company while dangling the
carrot of her "fortune" before his greedy eyes. When she then dies without
coughing up the expected windfall, said ne'r-do-well can feel real contempt.

There are a million scenarios.



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BulletProof
May 16th 06, 01:21 PM
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "CatNipped" >
>
> >ROTFLMAOWTIME!
> >
> >Hugs,
> >
> >CatNipped <---- Proud to be called a screaming bitch!
>
> You know I use that term with the greatest love and respect
> for all women. :)
>
> And thank's for the feedback. If I can figure out how to work
> it into a full minute of material, it may go into my standup routine
> this summer.
> BTW, I polished up my "Power of Prayer" rant from RPCA and took
> it to the stage a couple of weeks ago. It KILLED. I'm beginning to think
> I should run all my new material past you for approval.
> Maybe I'll get that 5 minute spot on "Letterman", yet. :)
> Back in '97 my wife and I were in New York and had tickets to
> Dave's show. So we're standing in line for an hour, waiting to get in,
> and I suddenly decided to start doing some of my jokes (to the great
> embarrassment of my wife). I wouldn't say that I "killed" but I was
> getting laughs. Biff Henderson (stage manager) came out of
> the studio and listened to me for a couple of minutes and
> HE laughed a few times. He motions me over to him and says
> "That was very funny, are you performing somewhere". I'm thinking,
> wow, am I being "discovered"? "No, just do some occasional "open mic"."
> Then he tells me, "Well, this is DAVE'S show. If you open your mouth
> in the studio, I'll have to have security escort you out".

was you juiced up? i mean drinking? tell it all Nomen

we are your freinds, we want to help you

you should use Nomen as your stage name
it's such a brown bag on the head kinda name

I didn't know you was haha funny that's too cool! and to start a
routine in public, that takes Moxy! man, I gotta hand it to you

did you get irrate with security.. lol.. "I KNOW FUNNY MAN! AND IN MY
HEART I KNOW IM FUNNY!"... "im suing the Dave show! Im suing you! and
im suing the city of New York pal!"

BulletProof
May 16th 06, 01:34 PM
cybercat wrote:
<snippy>

IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THEN YOU DON'T TALK TO ME

ONLY WAY I TALK TO YOU ANYMORE IS IF I SEE YOU ROLLING ROUND THE FLOOR
SPEAKING IN TONGUES

CatNipped
May 16th 06, 01:42 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> CatNipped wrote:
>> "Juice" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> > this is a nasty place
>> >
>> > no place for a lady to hang out
>> > welcome back for the evening
>> >
>> > SO glad you could stop by and bleed on us
>>
>> LOL! Hi Barry, brought the K-Y? ;>
>>
>
> frash out, just put some spit on it

That'll work.

How's the music coming, Bar?

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

P No Gree G O
May 16th 06, 01:45 PM
cybercat wrote:

> "BulletProof" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>>P No Gree G O wrote:
>>
>>>-L. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>cybercat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is
>
> it?
>
>>>>>Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
>>>>>a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Amen to that. Successful men are "powerful" and "leaders" -
>
> successful
>
>>>>women are "bitches" and "shrews".
>>>
>>>Actually, I'm a very successful woman
>>
>>Hello
>>
>>
>>>and no one, to my knowledge, has
>>>ever called me a bitch or a shrew.
>>
>>that's because nobody resents anyone for doing well..(maybe a few
>>froggy exceptions)
>
>
> Are you sure about that, Barry? Or is it that nobody resents anyone
> for doing well as long as they 1) share the proceeds and/or 2) stroke the
> egos of the ones who do not do so well.

I get it. For me to be a successful woman whom men don't hate, I must
be stroking their egos or somehow reimbursing their "kindness?"

Bzzzzzzt.

I'm actually known to be quite outspoken and even adversarial at times,
when warranted. I LOVE to play devil's advocate at meetings and get
everyone thinking. I'm told most people admire me for these qualities.
Know why? Because I don;t have a huge "validate me" chip on my shoulder
like so many women over 40.

>
>
>>but it is beyond the people i deal with in person
>
>
> What kind of people would these be, son? I would love
> to hear all about this caliber of people who never resent
> the success of anyone even though it is very likely there are
> among them both average people, exceptional people and
> the dregs of the dregs, ignorant, stupid, mean-spirited AND
> niggardly. You know, the kind of people for whom you
> might do some construction work who then refuse to even
> pay you a token sum?

Your world must be very negative.

>
>
>>as to why anyone
>>would have contempt for anyone where there is no cause. it's not even a
>>gender issue.
>>
>
>
> Oh, yes, there is always a cause, it is just that sometimes the cause is
> just and
> sometimes it is not. In the case of Hillary Clinton, there are a lot of men
> who
> resent the fact that she breaks the male-dominant tradition of the powerful
> and successful politician.

That I can agree with. And this does happen in society... but not to
the degree so many women claim it does. I know a lot of women who use
this kind of illustration merely as an excuse for their lack of success.

>
> Yes, indeed, there is always a cause. There are so many little icky people
> who are unhappy about their own shortcomings, all the opportunities they
> have missed. Sometimes it is a gender issue, sometimes it is not.

But the problem comes in those who claim it is when it isn't.

> For
> example, there
> are men who are abject failures who really do get frustrated and
> embittered toward other men ... and women ... who have spent their
> lives in, shall we say, more productive ways. There are women who
> resent men for their independence.
>
>
>>there's an old saying that familiarity breeds contempt
>
>
> This really is true, especially when the better you get to know
> someone the more disgusting you find out they really are.

This is sad. I always find that more information and experience helps
to shed a better light on most folks. Maybe I'm just too much of an
optimist. Hasn't cat ownership had an affect on you guys? ;-)

> Of course, there are also lots of cases in which the closer you get,
> the better someone looks. Familiarity does not *always* breed
> contempt.

It's very hard to find ANYthing that always happens... hence. my
discomfort with painting broad strokes.

> When it does, the inspiration for the contempt is often
> someone who is deceptive, such as a would-be con man who nevertheless
> does not have what it takes to pull even that sleazy task off. And hell
> hath no fury like a thwarted bonehead--so, said failed con artist might
> actually resent the intended target of his failed plan.

You sure do talk purdy.

>
> Or a lonely old lady who recognizes a shiftless man as "on-the-take"
> and so leads him on, enticing him to keep her company while dangling the
> carrot of her "fortune" before his greedy eyes. When she then dies without
> coughing up the expected windfall, said ne'r-do-well can feel real contempt.
>
> There are a million scenarios.

Of course there are.

P No Gree G O
May 16th 06, 01:47 PM
Nomen Nescio wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "CatNipped" >
>
>>ROTFLMAOWTIME!
>>
>>Hugs,
>>
>>CatNipped <---- Proud to be called a screaming bitch!
>
>
> You know I use that term with the greatest love and respect
> for all women. :)
>
> And thank's for the feedback. If I can figure out how to work
> it into a full minute of material, it may go into my standup routine
> this summer.
> BTW, I polished up my "Power of Prayer" rant from RPCA and took
> it to the stage a couple of weeks ago. It KILLED. I'm beginning to think
> I should run all my new material past you for approval.
> Maybe I'll get that 5 minute spot on "Letterman", yet. :)
> Back in '97 my wife and I were in New York and had tickets to
> Dave's show. So we're standing in line for an hour, waiting to get in,
> and I suddenly decided to start doing some of my jokes (to the great
> embarrassment of my wife). I wouldn't say that I "killed" but I was
> getting laughs. Biff Henderson (stage manager) came out of
> the studio and listened to me for a couple of minutes and
> HE laughed a few times. He motions me over to him and says
> "That was very funny, are you performing somewhere". I'm thinking,
> wow, am I being "discovered"? "No, just do some occasional "open mic"."
> Then he tells me, "Well, this is DAVE'S show. If you open your mouth
> in the studio, I'll have to have security escort you out".

ARRGGHH, whata bummer! Talk about fragile egos....

CatNipped
May 16th 06, 01:50 PM
"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "CatNipped" >
>
>>ROTFLMAOWTIME!
>>
>>Hugs,
>>
>>CatNipped <---- Proud to be called a screaming bitch!
>
> You know I use that term with the greatest love and respect
> for all women. :)

Of course! ;>

> And thank's for the feedback. If I can figure out how to work
> it into a full minute of material, it may go into my standup routine
> this summer.

No need - you've posted some *excellent* trolls here lately (though I've
only been "skimming").

> BTW, I polished up my "Power of Prayer" rant from RPCA and took
> it to the stage a couple of weeks ago. It KILLED. I'm beginning to think
> I should run all my new material past you for approval.
> Maybe I'll get that 5 minute spot on "Letterman", yet. :)

Yep, saw that thread, replied to it... like I said then, since the results
were that the power of prayer didn't work it must not have been backed by
right-wing conservatives!! ;> I don't think running them past me would do
much good - I'm pretty atypical of that group, I like to laugh at
*everything*, myself included.

> Back in '97 my wife and I were in New York and had tickets to
> Dave's show. So we're standing in line for an hour, waiting to get in,
> and I suddenly decided to start doing some of my jokes (to the great
> embarrassment of my wife). I wouldn't say that I "killed" but I was
> getting laughs. Biff Henderson (stage manager) came out of
> the studio and listened to me for a couple of minutes and
> HE laughed a few times. He motions me over to him and says
> "That was very funny, are you performing somewhere". I'm thinking,
> wow, am I being "discovered"? "No, just do some occasional "open mic"."
> Then he tells me, "Well, this is DAVE'S show. If you open your mouth
> in the studio, I'll have to have security escort you out".

ROTFLMAO! Sometimes it doesn't pay to be good!

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/



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BulletProof
May 16th 06, 02:31 PM
CatNipped wrote:

> > frash out, just put some spit on it
>
> That'll work.
>
> How's the music coming, Bar?

are you ready to rock?

shut the lights out and get your cigarrete lighter ready

http://www.barryparrish.com/freebird.mp3
then another at
http://barryparrish.com

all I need now is the sweet inspirations
but would settle for envogue

--

I was checkin out your site some more
super clean there! mhmm
I thought you worked for yourself, you do don't you
you're are freelance

I've been learning alot in Flash 8, been doing Dreamweaver for a while
now
Flash 8 as you know, makes use of a timeline, it's not much different
than
the concept I use in the music studio... just a sequence of events...
but I don't find Flash very intuitive, not like my recording software.
(I can't readily find the buttons, lot's of F1's)

BulletProof
May 16th 06, 02:36 PM
CatNipped wrote:
> "BulletProof" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> >
> > CatNipped wrote:
> >> "Juice" > wrote in message
> >> oups.com...
> >> > this is a nasty place
> >> >
> >> > no place for a lady to hang out
> >> > welcome back for the evening
> >> >
> >> > SO glad you could stop by and bleed on us
> >>
> >> LOL! Hi Barry, brought the K-Y? ;>
> >>
> >
> > frash out, just put some spit on it
>
> That'll work.
>


oh! here's a flash site i put together for someone

http://onlineauctionshome.com
same as host... http://www.angelfire.com/mo/turkeymountain/index.html

CatNipped
May 16th 06, 02:45 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> CatNipped wrote:
>
>> > frash out, just put some spit on it
>>
>> That'll work.
>>
>> How's the music coming, Bar?
>
> are you ready to rock?
>
> shut the lights out and get your cigarrete lighter ready
>
> http://www.barryparrish.com/freebird.mp3
> then another at
> http://barryparrish.com

*Very* nice!

>
> all I need now is the sweet inspirations
> but would settle for envogue
>
> --
>
> I was checkin out your site some more
> super clean there! mhmm

Thanks.

> I thought you worked for yourself, you do don't you
> you're are freelance

I do both - I work from home so I can do both easily.

> I've been learning alot in Flash 8, been doing Dreamweaver for a while
> now
> Flash 8 as you know, makes use of a timeline, it's not much different
> than
> the concept I use in the music studio... just a sequence of events...
> but I don't find Flash very intuitive, not like my recording software.
> (I can't readily find the buttons, lot's of F1's)

Flash is *hard* to program (to actually put code behind the things on a
timeline - as you said not at all intuitive. I have used it in the past,
but I try to talk clients out of using it because 1) they will pay a lot
more for development since Flash takes so much longer to program, 2) lots of
users are aggravated by Flash, especially if they don't have the latest
version and are prompted to download it before they can view a page (in
which case most users will just hit their back arrow to go back to their
google search and find a site that's not as aggravating), and 3) lots of
users are (sensibly) afraid of security issues when they go to a Flash page.

You can do similar things with JavaScript without encountering all the
negative factors in Flash.

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

BulletProof
May 16th 06, 03:35 PM
CatNipped wrote:
> *Very* nice!

Thanks


> > I thought you worked for yourself, you do don't you
> > you're are freelance
>
> I do both - I work from home so I can do both easily.

> Flash is *hard* to program (to actually put code behind the things on a
> timeline - as you said not at all intuitive.
>
> You can do similar things with JavaScript without encountering all the
> negative factors in Flash.

true! it's not enough bang for the average consumers bux
then by the time you finish, it won't enough juice for the squeeze

Flash and Authorware are really great for large corporations with
specific site needs.
I definetely think flash has it's place, like when you want to give
someone a tour of the New Ford SUV. Then there's quicktime VR - 360deg,
interactive panoramas
I've got all those tools, but like you said, a client can rack up a
bill very quick with this sort of need.

I've followed Macromedia's development from their beginning, they lost
me at some point with coldfusion and server sides... i'd have to goto
college for 6 months...
and they will gladly oblige as they offer live online seminars to learn
their products.

You know Adobe will send you a free DVD (Creative Suite 2) it has all
their site creation and graphics products in one spot lots of fantastic
sites out of the box. I think "Go Live" beats dreamweaver overall...
but.. I think Adobe products are less intuitive than Macromedia...but
then again, when you say adobe you are saying macromedia, as they have
merged. I wish they would all think like an artist flows.

<pinching my nose>
I believe a new technology is in order where php and sql server sides
are built into the wysiwyg site editor... this way you can easily build
a db driven site that offers a comback cookie LOLOL that's too damn
funny... comeback cookie.. I gotcha comeback cookie...

well, it's a good day to rob a bank, hope I don't get caught!

BulletProof
May 16th 06, 03:48 PM
CatNipped wrote:

> KEWL! Very nicely done.

Thanks CN, the neat thing about that site...

it's got a live RSS feed from ebay...(real simple syndication)

one can insert their live auctions into any html page, however..
it does require a 3rd party to parse the RSS feed from da-bay
and if you have alot of auctions it can take a second for the
page to load.

cybercat
May 16th 06, 03:57 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
> <snippy>
>
> IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THEN YOU DON'T TALK TO ME
>
> ONLY WAY I TALK TO YOU ANYMORE IS IF I SEE YOU ROLLING ROUND THE FLOOR
> SPEAKING IN TONGUES
>

Hey, they were hypotheticals!

Besides, it wasn't like I was accusing you of, say, ****ing people for money
or anything. Now THAT would be heinous.

Lighten up, son. Dazzle us with some more of your tech brilliance. Or of
course you can just baffle us with bull****, your usual MO.



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cybercat
May 16th 06, 04:15 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>
> > "BulletProof" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >
> >>P No Gree G O wrote:
> >>
> >>>-L. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>cybercat wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Let's talk about what makes Hillary a bitch, Matthew. What exactly is
> >
> > it?
> >
> >>>>>Usually when a man makes that comment with that level of venom, it is
> >>>>>a sure sign that the woman in question is successful.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Amen to that. Successful men are "powerful" and "leaders" -
> >
> > successful
> >
> >>>>women are "bitches" and "shrews".
> >>>
> >>>Actually, I'm a very successful woman
> >>
> >>Hello
> >>
> >>
> >>>and no one, to my knowledge, has
> >>>ever called me a bitch or a shrew.
> >>
> >>that's because nobody resents anyone for doing well..(maybe a few
> >>froggy exceptions)
> >
> >
> > Are you sure about that, Barry? Or is it that nobody resents anyone
> > for doing well as long as they 1) share the proceeds and/or 2) stroke
the
> > egos of the ones who do not do so well.
>
> I get it. For me to be a successful woman whom men don't hate, I must
> be stroking their egos or somehow reimbursing their "kindness?"
>
> Bzzzzzzt.


Actually, no. I wasn't talking about you.
>
> I'm actually known to be quite outspoken and even adversarial at times,
> when warranted. I LOVE to play devil's advocate at meetings and get
> everyone thinking. I'm told most people admire me for these qualities.
> Know why? Because I don;t have a huge "validate me" chip on my shoulder
> like so many women over 40.
>

In my honest opinion, it is best to go through life (in most situations
anyway, lol)
as a person as opposed to a gender. I don't wear my &%$# as some kind of
badge of honor or card entitling me to anything, and if I had a dick I
wouldn't
either.


> >
> >>but it is beyond the people i deal with in person
> >
> >
> > What kind of people would these be, son? I would love
> > to hear all about this caliber of people who never resent
> > the success of anyone even though it is very likely there are
> > among them both average people, exceptional people and
> > the dregs of the dregs, ignorant, stupid, mean-spirited AND
> > niggardly. You know, the kind of people for whom you
> > might do some construction work who then refuse to even
> > pay you a token sum?
>
> Your world must be very negative.
>
> >

Once again, you make too many ASSumptions. I don't do
construction work, either.



> >
> > Oh, yes, there is always a cause, it is just that sometimes the cause is
> > just and
> > sometimes it is not. In the case of Hillary Clinton, there are a lot of
men
> > who
> > resent the fact that she breaks the male-dominant tradition of the
powerful
> > and successful politician.
>
> That I can agree with. And this does happen in society... but not to
> the degree so many women claim it does. I know a lot of women who use
> this kind of illustration merely as an excuse for their lack of success.
>

Recall that this started with our good buddy NMR calling Hillary a "bitch."
This is what I am talking about here.


> >
> > Yes, indeed, there is always a cause. There are so many little icky
people
> > who are unhappy about their own shortcomings, all the opportunities they
> > have missed. Sometimes it is a gender issue, sometimes it is not.
>
> But the problem comes in those who claim it is when it isn't.

Sure. For every decent, hardworking person who is willing to use the
mind that God (or fill in the blank, I don't care!) gave him or her and
learn
how to not only manage but thrive in this life, there are 100 making excuses
for why they can't or should not even try. And some of them can come up
with quite an elaborate schtick! It is pretty easy to see through, though.

>
> >
> >>there's an old saying that familiarity breeds contempt
> >
> >
> > This really is true, especially when the better you get to know
> > someone the more disgusting you find out they really are.
>
> This is sad. I always find that more information and experience helps
> to shed a better light on most folks. Maybe I'm just too much of an
> optimist. Hasn't cat ownership had an affect on you guys? ;-)

It is very sad when you scratch a pretty surface and find a deep
pool of vicious and ugly underneath, but it happens. If it has not
happened to you, then I can see why you are an optimist. As for
me, hell, I am such an optimist I can creat a Big Beautiful Creative
Genius in my mind where all there really is is a miserable lying little
f*&ckhead out to get a handout. lol! I am actually the creative genius
in this case! In all seriousness, I do look for the good in people. It
is something my mother taught me, and something she did herself.
(And she had to be looking mighty hard when she found any in at least
one of her husbands, too!)
>
> > Of course, there are also lots of cases in which the closer you get,
> > the better someone looks. Familiarity does not *always* breed
> > contempt.
>
> It's very hard to find ANYthing that always happens... hence. my
> discomfort with painting broad strokes.

You won't find me talking in absolutes. You are simply making the
point I was making to Barry over again.

>
> > When it does, the inspiration for the contempt is often
> > someone who is deceptive, such as a would-be con man who nevertheless
> > does not have what it takes to pull even that sleazy task off. And hell
> > hath no fury like a thwarted bonehead--so, said failed con artist might
> > actually resent the intended target of his failed plan.
>
> You sure do talk purdy.
>

Why thank you. :-) I do try.
> >
> > Or a lonely old lady who recognizes a shiftless man as "on-the-take"
> > and so leads him on, enticing him to keep her company while dangling the
> > carrot of her "fortune" before his greedy eyes. When she then dies
without
> > coughing up the expected windfall, said ne'r-do-well can feel real
contempt.
> >
> > There are a million scenarios.
>
> Of course there are.
>
>

And the world is a fascinating place. But you do have to
stay on your toes.

Honestly, know what I am so mad about? I paid $7.50 for a
glass of Pinot Grigio in Pisa and it tasted like vinegar and garlic.
Someone explained to me later that as a rule Italians do not do
white wine well. I actually have had this variety since, from another
winery of course, and it was good.



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BulletProof
May 16th 06, 06:31 PM
cybercat wrote:

<snip bullcrap>


user!

cybercat
May 16th 06, 06:48 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
> <snip bullcrap>
>
>
> user!
> \

dickhead!



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BulletProof
May 16th 06, 06:58 PM
cybercat wrote:
<snip stammering, close enough to tongues>

uh, who said anything about getting paid to talk about sex Nancy?
won't me! heh

YOU'RE A PETTY USER SMALL TIME ABUSER

IIIIIII can see through yeeeewwww
seeee the reaaaalll youuuuu

it's a little song my tart

BulletProof
May 16th 06, 07:06 PM
Nomen Nescio wrote:

> >but it is beyond the people i deal with in person as to why anyone
> >would have contempt for anyone where there is no cause. it's not even a
> >gender issue.
>
> Again LOL!!!!
> Wait until the day............................
> Women who wouldn't **** on you if you were on fire

do i have to be on fire?

> will suddenly want to
> have your baby.
> Men who wouldn't give you the time of day will suddenly want to be your
> best friend.
> And most of your "old" friends will stop inviting you to their parties.

sounds like fun

cybercat
May 16th 06, 07:20 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
> <snip stammering, close enough to tongues>
>
> uh, who said anything about getting paid to talk about sex Nancy?
> won't me! heh

Who? Got some new work lined up, Barry? Well good for you,
son.

>
> YOU'RE A PETTY USER SMALL TIME ABUSER

Say that a little louder, loser. I can tell you don't believe it yet.

>
> IIIIIII can see through yeeeewwww
> seeee the reaaaalll youuuuu
>
> it's a little song my tart
>

Your tart? Dream on, ghetto boy.

Speaking of seeing things, I'm thinking some nice folks
are going to be getting an eyeful pretty soon.

Just something to think about.



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Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 07:33 PM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
<sniped>
> Recall that this started with our good buddy NMR calling Hillary a
> "bitch."
> This is what I am talking about here.
>
No it is not it has gone so far from that point and it was far from that
point even before I made MY OPINION.

It started before that and If you noticed I ended it and stopped evening
responding
Both of you two are out for blood and to cut someone's throat just to prove
a point about politics.
Good Lord step back and look how you 2 are acting. One is praying for an
assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves. The other is
trying to cut the throats of their internet friends just to prove a point of
their opinion about politics

BulletProof
May 16th 06, 07:51 PM
cybercat wrote:

> Your tart? Dream on, ghetto boy.

there is no shame in my game
i like my raggedy ass house

the best part about it! there is no brawling women in here

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

you just want some of this thick ghetto root but you can't have none
no no

it's all prime, but you're to white to ride!


> Speaking of seeing things, I'm thinking some nice folks
> are going to be getting an eyeful pretty soon.
>
> Just something to think about.

tell us all again how "successful" you are

wow! bless your heart, that must cost a fortune in taxes!
no way to get around it, with checks being cashed and paypal records

or is it your policy to get paid in cash...

****, I bet paypal keeps permanent records of EVERY fricken DIME

I don't blame you though, I too pay my taxes! hellll yeas!
wouldn't wanna end up in a federal penitentary for $$%$%^$ TAX EVASION

why...you'd have to lick the jelly from thunderthighs ass AND IT BETTER
[email protected]#$#$ FEEL GOOD OR YOU GET YOUR FLAT NARROW WHITE A$$ KICKED

LATER WOMAN WITH A PENIS! ON SECOND THOUGHT, YOU MIGHT BE REAL POPULAR
IN A FEMALE PRISON HAVING A PENIS AND ALL

the amazing PENIS WOMAN

step right up ladies and gentlemen

this woman was born with a penis
and a hoochy

RUMOR HAS IT, SHE KNOWS HOW TO $$%& HERSELF WITH IT

Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 07:56 PM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
<sniped>
> Recall that this started with our good buddy NMR calling Hillary a
> "[email protected]"
> This is what I am talking about here.
>
No it is not it has gone so far from that point and it was far from that
point even before I made MY OPINION.

It had started before that and If you noticed I ended it and stopped evening
responding
Both of you two are out for blood and to cut someone's throat just to prove
a point about politics.
Good Lord step back and look how you 2 are acting. One is praying for an
assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves. The other is
trying to cut the throats of their internet friends just to prove a point of
their opinion about politics

cybercat
May 16th 06, 08:00 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> <sniped>
> > Recall that this started with our good buddy NMR calling Hillary a
> > "[email protected]"
> > This is what I am talking about here.
> >
> No it is not it has gone so far from that point and it was far from that
> point even before I made MY OPINION.

That is what I was referring to, Matthew.


>
> It had started before that and If you noticed I ended it and stopped
evening
> responding
> Both of you two are out for blood and to cut someone's throat just to
prove
> a point about politics.
> Good Lord step back and look how you 2 are acting. One is praying for an
> assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves. The other is
> trying to cut the throats of their internet friends just to prove a point
of
> their opinion about politics
>

What? You have as vivid an imagination as your good buddy Barry. I never
said anything about anybody killing or shooting anybody.



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cybercat
May 16th 06, 08:01 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
> > Your tart? Dream on, ghetto boy.
>
> there is no shame in my game
> i like my raggedy ass house
>
> the best part about it! there is no brawling women in here
>
> WOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
>
> you just want some of this thick ghetto root but you can't have none
> no no
>
> it's all prime, but you're to white to ride!
>
>
> > Speaking of seeing things, I'm thinking some nice folks
> > are going to be getting an eyeful pretty soon.
> >
> > Just something to think about.
>
> tell us all again how "successful" you are
>
> wow! bless your heart, that must cost a fortune in taxes!
> no way to get around it, with checks being cashed and paypal records
>
> or is it your policy to get paid in cash...
>
> ****, I bet paypal keeps permanent records of EVERY fricken DIME
>
> I don't blame you though, I too pay my taxes! hellll yeas!
> wouldn't wanna end up in a federal penitentary for $$%$%^$ TAX EVASION
>
> why...you'd have to lick the jelly from thunderthighs ass AND IT BETTER
> [email protected]#$#$ FEEL GOOD OR YOU GET YOUR FLAT NARROW WHITE A$$ KICKED
>
> LATER WOMAN WITH A PENIS! ON SECOND THOUGHT, YOU MIGHT BE REAL POPULAR
> IN A FEMALE PRISON HAVING A PENIS AND ALL
>
> the amazing PENIS WOMAN
>
> step right up ladies and gentlemen
>
> this woman was born with a penis
> and a hoochy
>
> RUMOR HAS IT, SHE KNOWS HOW TO $$%& HERSELF WITH IT
>

lol I am thinking you might be wishing you has x-no-archived this one, boy.



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Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 08:01 PM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> <sniped>
>> > Recall that this started with our good buddy NMR calling Hillary a
>> > "[email protected]"
>> > This is what I am talking about here.
>> >
>> No it is not it has gone so far from that point and it was far from that
>> point even before I made MY OPINION.
>
> That is what I was referring to, Matthew.
>
>
>>
>> It had started before that and If you noticed I ended it and stopped
> evening
>> responding
>> Both of you two are out for blood and to cut someone's throat just to
> prove
>> a point about politics.
>> Good Lord step back and look how you 2 are acting. One is praying for an
>> assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves. The other is
>> trying to cut the throats of their internet friends just to prove a point
> of
>> their opinion about politics
>>
>
> What? You have as vivid an imagination as your good buddy Barry. I never
> said anything about anybody killing or shooting anybody.
>
RE READ AGAIN BEFORE YOU JUMP THE GUN I SAID ONE IS THE OTHER IS

cybercat
May 16th 06, 08:04 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> >>
> >> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> <sniped>
> >> > Recall that this started with our good buddy NMR calling Hillary a
> >> > "[email protected]"
> >> > This is what I am talking about here.
> >> >
> >> No it is not it has gone so far from that point and it was far from
that
> >> point even before I made MY OPINION.
> >
> > That is what I was referring to, Matthew.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> It had started before that and If you noticed I ended it and stopped
> > evening
> >> responding
> >> Both of you two are out for blood and to cut someone's throat just to
> > prove
> >> a point about politics.
> >> Good Lord step back and look how you 2 are acting. One is praying for
an
> >> assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves. The other is
> >> trying to cut the throats of their internet friends just to prove a
point
> > of
> >> their opinion about politics
> >>
> >
> > What? You have as vivid an imagination as your good buddy Barry. I never
> > said anything about anybody killing or shooting anybody.
> >
> RE READ AGAIN BEFORE YOU JUMP THE GUN I SAID ONE IS THE OTHER IS
>
>

You said "One is praying for an assassination and for someone to use a gun
on themselves.
The other is trying to cut the throats of their internet friends just to
prove a point of
their opinion about politics."

Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please elaborate.



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Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 08:08 PM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
>> > . ..
>> >>
>> >> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> <sniped>
>> >> > Recall that this started with our good buddy NMR calling Hillary a
>> >> > "[email protected]"
>> >> > This is what I am talking about here.
>> >> >
>> >> No it is not it has gone so far from that point and it was far from
> that
>> >> point even before I made MY OPINION.
>> >
>> > That is what I was referring to, Matthew.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> It had started before that and If you noticed I ended it and stopped
>> > evening
>> >> responding
>> >> Both of you two are out for blood and to cut someone's throat just to
>> > prove
>> >> a point about politics.
>> >> Good Lord step back and look how you 2 are acting. One is praying for
> an
>> >> assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves. The other
>> >> is
>> >> trying to cut the throats of their internet friends just to prove a
> point
>> > of
>> >> their opinion about politics
>> >>
>> >
>> > What? You have as vivid an imagination as your good buddy Barry. I
>> > never
>> > said anything about anybody killing or shooting anybody.
>> >
>> RE READ AGAIN BEFORE YOU JUMP THE GUN I SAID ONE IS THE OTHER IS
>>
>>
>
> You said "One is praying for an assassination and for someone to use a gun
> on themselves.
> The other is trying to cut the throats of their internet friends just to
> prove a point of
> their opinion about politics."
>
> Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please elaborate.


Take a look at your previous response post enough said. IMO it looks like
your are out just for blood

cybercat
May 16th 06, 08:14 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote

> > Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please elaborate.
>
>
> Take a look at your previous response post enough said. IMO it looks
like
> your are out just for blood
>
>

My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.



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BulletProof
May 16th 06, 08:27 PM
Chemical Rage wrote:

> My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.

your response was down right vulgar and wouldn't you know it

it all came back to you and your success...(this speaks of narcism and
insecurity)
a lady comes on here and you act like a freakin idiot

EVEN IF (NOTICE THE IF PART) you was making the bills? IF

get over your fascination with yourself... millions of people pay their
own way

i've been working since I was 15 yrs old, actually I started working
when I was 12 yrs old.
A REAL LEGITIMATE JOB. I was proud to be working and making money for
the things I needed..

AND i've never kissed anybodys ass to make it
woooo <shiver>

you obviously need to go find yourself a spin cycle and lean on it

or is that "auto" seeing that you are the freak woman with a peni, lol

hey! you said it!

bet you wish you had x-no-archived that

cybercat
May 16th 06, 08:30 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Chemical Rage wrote:
>
> > My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
>
> your response was down right vulgar and wouldn't you know it
>
> it all came back to you and your success...(this speaks of narcism and
> insecurity)
> a lady comes on here and you act like a freakin idiot

Just a second--I never said anything at all about "my success."

The lady in question (Pinot Grigio) referred to herself as a successful
reading. You suck at speed reading.


>
> EVEN IF (NOTICE THE IF PART) you was making the bills? IF
>
> get over your fascination with yourself... millions of people pay their
> own way
>
> i've been working since I was 15 yrs old, actually I started working
> when I was 12 yrs old.
> A REAL LEGITIMATE JOB. I was proud to be working and making money for
> the things I needed..
>
> AND i've never kissed anybodys ass to make it
> woooo <shiver>
>
> you obviously need to go find yourself a spin cycle and lean on it
>
> or is that "auto" seeing that you are the freak woman with a peni, lol
>
> hey! you said it!
>
> bet you wish you had x-no-archived that
>

Once again, I have no idea what you are talking about. The only
"chemical rage" I see here is yours. The chemical would be
testosterone. You're a nutcase.



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cybercat
May 16th 06, 08:35 PM
"cybercat" > wrote

> Just a second--I never said anything at all about "my success."
>
> The lady in question (Pinot Grigio) referred to herself as a successful
> reading.

That should read, "successful woman." :)



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CatNipped
May 16th 06, 08:58 PM
"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> From: "CatNipped" >
>
>> I don't think running them past me would do
>>much good - I'm pretty atypical of that group, I like to laugh at
>>*everything*, myself included.
>
> How much would you charge to sit at the front table at one of
> my performances? :)

A saucer of cream and a catnip toy? ;>

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/



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Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 08:59 PM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote
>
>> > Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please
>> > elaborate.
>>
>>
>> Take a look at your previous response post enough said. IMO it looks
> like
>> your are out just for blood
>>
>>
>
> My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
>
It looked like it was and was wrote like it was personal

Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 09:00 PM
"CatNipped" > wrote in message
...
> "Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
> ...
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>
>> From: "CatNipped" >
>>
>>> I don't think running them past me would do
>>>much good - I'm pretty atypical of that group, I like to laugh at
>>>*everything*, myself included.
>>
>> How much would you charge to sit at the front table at one of
>> my performances? :)
>
> A saucer of cream and a catnip toy? ;>
>

I will add to that a can of tuna

>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped
>
> See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/
>
>
>
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>

CatNipped
May 16th 06, 09:01 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "CatNipped" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>
>>> From: "CatNipped" >
>>>
>>>> I don't think running them past me would do
>>>>much good - I'm pretty atypical of that group, I like to laugh at
>>>>*everything*, myself included.
>>>
>>> How much would you charge to sit at the front table at one of
>>> my performances? :)
>>
>> A saucer of cream and a catnip toy? ;>
>>
>
> I will add to that a can of tuna

Sold! ;>

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/



>
>>
>> Hugs,
>>
>> CatNipped
>>
>> See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/
>>
>>
>>
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>
>

cybercat
May 16th 06, 09:01 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote
> >
> >> > Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please
> >> > elaborate.
> >>
> >>
> >> Take a look at your previous response post enough said. IMO it looks
> > like
> >> your are out just for blood
> >>
> >>
> >
> > My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
> >
> It looked like it was and was wrote like it was personal
>

Which thing did you take personally? I honestly did not mean to
hurt your feelings, if I did I apologize.



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BulletProof
May 16th 06, 09:03 PM
cybercat wrote:

> Once again, I have no idea what you are talking about.

i wouldn't expect you to know anything about it

Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 09:21 PM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote
>> >
>> >> > Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please
>> >> > elaborate.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at your previous response post enough said. IMO it looks
>> > like
>> >> your are out just for blood
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
>> >
>> It looked like it was and was wrote like it was personal
>>
>
> Which thing did you take personally? I honestly did not mean to
> hurt your feelings, if I did I apologize.
>
No Cyber you did not hurt my feeling I did not take it personally that is
why I stopped I did not want friendships ruined due to pointless arguments;
which you know is true for both sides
I will apologize also to you if you took me wrong but we both don't need
worry for this is the internet and there will be another flame war tomorrow
for us to take sides in and have fun ;-)

cybercat
May 16th 06, 09:26 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> >>
> >> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote
> >> >
> >> >> > Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please
> >> >> > elaborate.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Take a look at your previous response post enough said. IMO it
looks
> >> > like
> >> >> your are out just for blood
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
> >> >
> >> It looked like it was and was wrote like it was personal
> >>
> >
> > Which thing did you take personally? I honestly did not mean to
> > hurt your feelings, if I did I apologize.
> >
> No Cyber you did not hurt my feeling I did not take it personally that is
> why I stopped I did not want friendships ruined due to pointless
arguments;
> which you know is true for both sides
> I will apologize also to you if you took me wrong but we both don't need
> worry for this is the internet and there will be another flame war
tomorrow
> for us to take sides in and have fun ;-)
>
>

Well thank heavens! I know I can be sharp when I feel strongly about
something, but I never mean it personally when I am talking about
politics. And, I must say, I know you are right about not talking
about certain issues. I had just kept quiet for a long time, and had
to have my say. ;) I'm finished now.



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Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 09:28 PM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
>> > . ..
>> >>
>> >> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote
>> >> >
>> >> >> > Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please
>> >> >> > elaborate.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Take a look at your previous response post enough said. IMO it
> looks
>> >> > like
>> >> >> your are out just for blood
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
>> >> >
>> >> It looked like it was and was wrote like it was personal
>> >>
>> >
>> > Which thing did you take personally? I honestly did not mean to
>> > hurt your feelings, if I did I apologize.
>> >
>> No Cyber you did not hurt my feeling I did not take it personally that
>> is
>> why I stopped I did not want friendships ruined due to pointless
> arguments;
>> which you know is true for both sides
>> I will apologize also to you if you took me wrong but we both don't
>> need
>> worry for this is the internet and there will be another flame war
> tomorrow
>> for us to take sides in and have fun ;-)
>>
>>
>
> Well thank heavens! I know I can be sharp when I feel strongly about
> something, but I never mean it personally when I am talking about
> politics. And, I must say, I know you are right about not talking
> about certain issues. I had just kept quiet for a long time, and had
> to have my say. ;) I'm finished now.

Oh come on we can have messing with John Doe still if he ever shows up again
can't we ;-)

cybercat
May 16th 06, 09:38 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote

> > Well thank heavens! I know I can be sharp when I feel strongly about
> > something, but I never mean it personally when I am talking about
> > politics. And, I must say, I know you are right about not talking
> > about certain issues. I had just kept quiet for a long time, and had
> > to have my say. ;) I'm finished now.
>
> Oh come on we can have messing with John Doe still if he ever shows up
again
> can't we ;-)
>
Oh sure! I just meant that I am finished discussing politics for a while.
<G>



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-L.
May 16th 06, 10:32 PM
Matthew aka NMR wrote:

>One is praying for an
> assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves.

I make no apologies for either statement. I would more than happy if
someone took Butt **** Jr. out and his little ****pile vice with him -
and add Turd Blossom to the mix as well. Turd Blossom is actually the
most dangerous because he's smart.

As for the other statement - he's just a waste of DNA. No loss if he
does off himself.

-L.

P No Gree G O
May 16th 06, 10:40 PM
-L. wrote:
> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>
>
>>One is praying for an
>>assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves.
>
>
> I make no apologies for either statement. I would more than happy if
> someone took Butt **** Jr. out and his little ****pile vice with him -
> and add Turd Blossom to the mix as well. Turd Blossom is actually the
> most dangerous because he's smart.
>
> As for the other statement - he's just a waste of DNA. No loss if he
> does off himself.
>
> -L.
>

Let me guess... you live only with cats, right?

cybercat
May 16th 06, 10:45 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
> -L. wrote:
> > Matthew aka NMR wrote:
> >
> >
> >>One is praying for an
> >>assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves.
> >
> >
> > I make no apologies for either statement. I would more than happy if
> > someone took Butt **** Jr. out and his little ****pile vice with him -
> > and add Turd Blossom to the mix as well. Turd Blossom is actually the
> > most dangerous because he's smart.
> >
> > As for the other statement - he's just a waste of DNA. No loss if he
> > does off himself.
> >
> > -L.
> >
>
> Let me guess... you live only with cats, right?
>
>
You are a fan of one-liners. Are you familiar with Oscar Wilde's? :) I think
it is what he was best at.



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P No Gree G O
May 16th 06, 10:45 PM
cybercat wrote:

> "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>-L. wrote:
>>
>>>Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>One is praying for an
>>>>assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves.
>>>
>>>
>>>I make no apologies for either statement. I would more than happy if
>>>someone took Butt **** Jr. out and his little ****pile vice with him -
>>>and add Turd Blossom to the mix as well. Turd Blossom is actually the
>>>most dangerous because he's smart.
>>>
>>>As for the other statement - he's just a waste of DNA. No loss if he
>>>does off himself.
>>>
>>>-L.
>>>
>>
>>Let me guess... you live only with cats, right?
>>
>>
>
> You are a fan of one-liners. Are you familiar with Oscar Wilde's? :) I think
> it is what he was best at.
>
>
>
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One of my all-time favorite writers.

cybercat
May 16th 06, 10:45 PM
"-L." > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Matthew aka NMR wrote:
>
> >One is praying for an
> > assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves.
>
> I make no apologies for either statement. I would more than happy if
> someone took Butt **** Jr. out and his little ****pile vice with him -
> and add Turd Blossom to the mix as well. Turd Blossom is actually the
> most dangerous because he's smart.
>
Okay, I will bite. Who is Turd Blossom?



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cybercat
May 16th 06, 10:50 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote:> >
> > You are a fan of one-liners. Are you familiar with Oscar Wilde's? :) I
think
> > it is what he was best at.
> >
> >
> >
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> One of my all-time favorite writers.
>

Aha! Then I take back every mean thing I said about you. Especially since
you aren't even a Republican.

Oscar Wilde once wrote of himself that he would "stab his best friend in the
back for the sake of writing an epigraph for his tomb." lol! I think that
was a
rather melodramatic way of saying that he REALLY likes one-liners.



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BulletProof
May 16th 06, 11:17 PM
P No Gree G O wrote:

> One of my all-time favorite writers.

isn't she graceful doing the backstroke...
a thing of beauty

don't worry, Nancy don't bite too hard, she just goes through these
chemical rage flare ups I don't think she's eating right or
something... or not near enough excersize

over in the cooking group I see's she's got a belly full of pig butt
last night
my guess is.. her polyester pants were a little snug this morning and
well...
prolly just made her feel a little frumpy

We forgive her

Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 11:21 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> P No Gree G O wrote:
>
>> One of my all-time favorite writers.
>
> isn't she graceful doing the backstroke...
> a thing of beauty
>
> don't worry, Nancy don't bite too hard, she just goes through these
> chemical rage flare ups I don't think she's eating right or
> something... or not near enough excersize
>
> over in the cooking group I see's she's got a belly full of pig butt
> last night
> my guess is.. her polyester pants were a little snug this morning and
> well...
> prolly just made her feel a little frumpy
>
> We forgive her
>

I am sorry to do this but I go to
ROFLMAO

cybercat
May 16th 06, 11:28 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> P No Gree G O wrote:
>
> > One of my all-time favorite writers.
>
> isn't she graceful doing the backstroke...
> a thing of beauty

What are you talking about now, little boy? This was the natural progression
of the conversation, no backpedaling involved.

Do you imagine that the voices you hear in your jughead are real for
all of us?

Everything I said to you was true, and I would say it again.

>
> don't worry, Nancy don't bite too hard, she just goes through these
> chemical rage flare ups I don't think she's eating right or
> something... or not near enough excersize
>
> over in the cooking group I see's she's got a belly full of pig butt
> last night
> my guess is.. her polyester pants were a little snug this morning and
> well...
> prolly just made her feel a little frumpy
>
> We forgive her
>

You really are funny. You are a funny boy. It's true. My polyester
pants are a little snug, it's true. But that was some damned good
hot Italian sausage.



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cybercat
May 16th 06, 11:36 PM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "BulletProof" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >
> > P No Gree G O wrote:
> >
> >> One of my all-time favorite writers.
> >
> > isn't she graceful doing the backstroke...
> > a thing of beauty
> >
> > don't worry, Nancy don't bite too hard, she just goes through these
> > chemical rage flare ups I don't think she's eating right or
> > something... or not near enough excersize
> >
> > over in the cooking group I see's she's got a belly full of pig butt
> > last night
> > my guess is.. her polyester pants were a little snug this morning and
> > well...
> > prolly just made her feel a little frumpy
> >
> > We forgive her
> >
>
> I am sorry to do this but I go to
> ROFLMAO
>
>

He's funny boy. If you think this is funny, I've got some
material that is going to make you howl. You, and Barry's mama
Daddy, too.



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BulletProof
May 16th 06, 11:41 PM
cybercat wrote:

> He's funny boy. If you think this is funny, I've got some
> material that is going to make you howl. You, and Barry's mama
> Daddy, too.


Nancy! I was playing with you about the polyester pants

SAY IT ISN'T SOOO! do you wear them on the way to the woodshed too?

cybercat
May 16th 06, 11:44 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
> > He's funny boy. If you think this is funny, I've got some
> > material that is going to make you howl. You, and Barry's mama
> > Daddy, too.
>
>
> Nancy! I was playing with you about the polyester pants
>
> SAY IT ISN'T SOOO! do you wear them on the way to the woodshed too?
>

Barry! We all do, here in Mayberry. We keep them up when there are cameras
around, too. We're smart that way.



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BulletProof
May 16th 06, 11:55 PM
cybercat wrote:

> Barry! We all do, here in Mayberry. We keep them up when there are cameras
> around, too. We're smart that way.

so that's a yes? you do wear your polyester pants when you are mailing
your taxes?

Matthew aka NMR
May 16th 06, 11:58 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> Barry! We all do, here in Mayberry. We keep them up when there are
>> cameras
>> around, too. We're smart that way.
>
> so that's a yes? you do wear your polyester pants when you are mailing
> your taxes?
>
ROFLMAO stop it you two you are giving me some disturbing visual ideas

cybercat
May 17th 06, 12:03 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
> > Barry! We all do, here in Mayberry. We keep them up when there are
cameras
> > around, too. We're smart that way.
>
> so that's a yes? you do wear your polyester pants when you are mailing
> your taxes?
>

:) What is this fixation you have about my taxes, son? I pay my taxes
religiously.
When was the last time you did yours?



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 12:04 AM
"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
...
>
> "BulletProof" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > cybercat wrote:
> >
> >> Barry! We all do, here in Mayberry. We keep them up when there are
> >> cameras
> >> around, too. We're smart that way.
> >
> > so that's a yes? you do wear your polyester pants when you are mailing
> > your taxes?
> >
> ROFLMAO stop it you two you are giving me some disturbing visual ideas
>
>

I got yer disturbing visuals right here, Matthew, lol!



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Matthew aka NMR
May 17th 06, 12:09 AM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "BulletProof" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>
>> > Barry! We all do, here in Mayberry. We keep them up when there are
> cameras
>> > around, too. We're smart that way.
>>
>> so that's a yes? you do wear your polyester pants when you are mailing
>> your taxes?
>>
>
> :) What is this fixation you have about my taxes, son? I pay my taxes
> religiously.
> When was the last time you did yours?
>
That is cold brrr girl you can give as good as you get it wait does
that look right I will leave it up to everyone imaginations he he

<grinning ear to ear >

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 12:11 AM
Poly wrote:

> :) What is this fixation you have about my taxes, son? I pay my taxes
> religiously.
> When was the last time you did yours?

no fixation, just a simple question Poly

when's the last time you had your haircut?

cybercat
May 17th 06, 12:23 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Poly wrote:
>
> > :) What is this fixation you have about my taxes, son? I pay my taxes
> > religiously.
> > When was the last time you did yours?
>
> no fixation, just a simple question Poly
>
> when's the last time you had your haircut?
>

About two weeks ago. Um, I understand that you have had a bad day and
everything, but I think the nice cat people have probably had enough of this
off-topic stuff.
Why not take it to email if you have something to say.



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 12:30 AM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "BulletProof" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >
> > Poly wrote:
> >
> > > :) What is this fixation you have about my taxes, son? I pay my taxes
> > > religiously.
> > > When was the last time you did yours?
> >
> > no fixation, just a simple question Poly
> >
> > when's the last time you had your haircut?
> >

> About two weeks ago. Um, I understand that you have had a bad day and
> everything, but I think the nice cat people have probably had enough of
this
> off-topic stuff.
> Why not take it to email if you have something to say.
>

Of course, if you really want to talk about offtopic things,
I guess I could oblige. I have some great topics in mind, but
I still think they might be better discussed in a more appropriate
group. Things like welfare fraud, food stamps, money-under-the
table taken for construction jobs by people who claim not to even
make enough money to pay ANY taxes, and then there is eBay.
Child abuse, child abandonment, I can think of lots of things to
talk about, including the comment you made that started this
three ring circus.

I am always happy to talk. But, really, we have contributed
enough to what your good friend Joe calls "the noise-to-signal
ratio" here in the cat group, don't you think?




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lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:33 AM
On 16 May 2006 19:48:43 +0200, "cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>
>> <snip bullcrap>
>>
>>
>> user!
>> \
>
>dickhead!
>
Where did this monkey come from?

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:35 AM
On 16 May 2006 20:20:43 +0200, "cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>>
>> cybercat wrote:
>> <snip stammering, close enough to tongues>
>>
>> uh, who said anything about getting paid to talk about sex Nancy?
>> won't me! heh
>
>Who? Got some new work lined up, Barry? Well good for you,
>son.
>
>>
>> YOU'RE A PETTY USER SMALL TIME ABUSER
>
>Say that a little louder, loser. I can tell you don't believe it yet.
>
>>
>> IIIIIII can see through yeeeewwww
>> seeee the reaaaalll youuuuu
>>
>> it's a little song my tart
>>
>
>Your tart? Dream on, ghetto boy.
>
>Speaking of seeing things, I'm thinking some nice folks
>are going to be getting an eyeful pretty soon.
>
>Just something to think about.
>
Ya got my mail, send me what ya want.

It's Playtime.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:38 AM
On 16 May 2006 11:51:49 -0700, "BulletProof"
> wrote:

>
>cybercat wrote:
>
>> Your tart? Dream on, ghetto boy.
>
>there is no shame in my game
>i like my raggedy ass house
>
>the best part about it! there is no brawling women in here
>
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
>
>you just want some of this thick ghetto root but you can't have none
>no no
>
>it's all prime, but you're to white to ride!
>
>
>> Speaking of seeing things, I'm thinking some nice folks
>> are going to be getting an eyeful pretty soon.
>>
>> Just something to think about.
>
>tell us all again how "successful" you are
>
>wow! bless your heart, that must cost a fortune in taxes!
>no way to get around it, with checks being cashed and paypal records
>
>or is it your policy to get paid in cash...
>
>****, I bet paypal keeps permanent records of EVERY fricken DIME
>
>I don't blame you though, I too pay my taxes! hellll yeas!
>wouldn't wanna end up in a federal penitentary for $$%$%^$ TAX EVASION
>
>why...you'd have to lick the jelly from thunderthighs ass AND IT BETTER
>[email protected]#$#$ FEEL GOOD OR YOU GET YOUR FLAT NARROW WHITE A$$ KICKED
>
>LATER WOMAN WITH A PENIS! ON SECOND THOUGHT, YOU MIGHT BE REAL POPULAR
>IN A FEMALE PRISON HAVING A PENIS AND ALL
>
>the amazing PENIS WOMAN
>
>step right up ladies and gentlemen
>
>this woman was born with a penis
>and a hoochy
>
>RUMOR HAS IT, SHE KNOWS HOW TO $$%& HERSELF WITH IT


I have a good friend in Danville, he don't talk like that.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:40 AM
On Tue, 16 May 2006 19:01:49 GMT, "Matthew aka NMR"
> wrote:

>
>"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>>
>>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> <sniped>
>>> > Recall that this started with our good buddy NMR calling Hillary a
>>> > "[email protected]"
>>> > This is what I am talking about here.
>>> >
>>> No it is not it has gone so far from that point and it was far from that
>>> point even before I made MY OPINION.
>>
>> That is what I was referring to, Matthew.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It had started before that and If you noticed I ended it and stopped
>> evening
>>> responding
>>> Both of you two are out for blood and to cut someone's throat just to
>> prove
>>> a point about politics.
>>> Good Lord step back and look how you 2 are acting. One is praying for an
>>> assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves. The other is
>>> trying to cut the throats of their internet friends just to prove a point
>> of
>>> their opinion about politics
>>>
>>
>> What? You have as vivid an imagination as your good buddy Barry. I never
>> said anything about anybody killing or shooting anybody.
>>
>RE READ AGAIN BEFORE YOU JUMP THE GUN I SAID ONE IS THE OTHER IS
>
Calm down Matty, it's only usenet.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:42 AM
On 16 May 2006 21:14:29 +0200, "cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"Matthew aka NMR" > wrote
>
>> > Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please elaborate.
>>
>>
>> Take a look at your previous response post enough said. IMO it looks
>like
>> your are out just for blood
>>
>>
>
>My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
>
>
Ignore him sweety, he's just a troll.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:47 AM
On 16 May 2006 12:27:27 -0700, "BulletProof"
> wrote:

>
>Chemical Rage wrote:
>
>> My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
>
>your response was down right vulgar and wouldn't you know it
>
>it all came back to you and your success...(this speaks of narcism and
>insecurity)
>a lady comes on here and you act like a freakin idiot
>
>EVEN IF (NOTICE THE IF PART) you was making the bills? IF
>
>get over your fascination with yourself... millions of people pay their
>own way
>
>i've been working since I was 15 yrs old, actually I started working
>when I was 12 yrs old.
>A REAL LEGITIMATE JOB. I was proud to be working and making money for
>the things I needed..

Parents were drunken bums huh?
>
>AND i've never kissed anybodys ass to make it
>woooo <shiver>
>
>you obviously need to go find yourself a spin cycle and lean on it
>
>or is that "auto" seeing that you are the freak woman with a peni, lol
>
>hey! you said it!
>
>bet you wish you had x-no-archived that

I bet you'll wish you never posted.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:49 AM
On 16 May 2006 21:30:47 +0200, "cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>>
>> Chemical Rage wrote:
>>
>> > My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
>>
>> your response was down right vulgar and wouldn't you know it
>>
>> it all came back to you and your success...(this speaks of narcism and
>> insecurity)
>> a lady comes on here and you act like a freakin idiot
>
>Just a second--I never said anything at all about "my success."
>
>The lady in question (Pinot Grigio) referred to herself as a successful
>reading. You suck at speed reading.
>
>
>>
>> EVEN IF (NOTICE THE IF PART) you was making the bills? IF
>>
>> get over your fascination with yourself... millions of people pay their
>> own way
>>
>> i've been working since I was 15 yrs old, actually I started working
>> when I was 12 yrs old.
>> A REAL LEGITIMATE JOB. I was proud to be working and making money for
>> the things I needed..
>>
>> AND i've never kissed anybodys ass to make it
>> woooo <shiver>
>>
>> you obviously need to go find yourself a spin cycle and lean on it
>>
>> or is that "auto" seeing that you are the freak woman with a peni, lol
>>
>> hey! you said it!
>>
>> bet you wish you had x-no-archived that
>>
>
>Once again, I have no idea what you are talking about. The only
>"chemical rage" I see here is yours. The chemical would be
>testosterone. You're a nutcase.
>
UTB analysis of Bulletproof

1. A true KoOk
2. A frothing KoOk
3. On the verge of a meltdown.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:50 AM
On 16 May 2006 13:03:15 -0700, "BulletProof"
> wrote:

>
>cybercat wrote:
>
>> Once again, I have no idea what you are talking about.
>
>i wouldn't expect you to know anything about it

Meltdown imminent.

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 12:51 AM
cybercat wrote:



> Of course, if you really want to talk about offtopic things,
> I guess I could oblige. I have some great topics in mind, but
> I still think they might be better discussed in a more appropriate
> group. Things like welfare fraud, food stamps, money-under-the
> table taken for construction jobs by people who claim not to even
> make enough money to pay ANY taxes, and then there is eBay.
> Child abuse, child abandonment, I can think of lots of things to
> talk about, including the comment you made that started this
> three ring circus.

what are you talking about now grandma, this is rich!

when I said you had to be rolling in the floor speaking in tongues..
you qualified yourself first thing this morning with pure stammering

Let's talk about your ebony girlfriends
or maybe... 16 felony indicments..something
bout an 86 yr old womans pension check or maybe...
court transcripts of a certain person begging
not to be thrown in prison for documented
child abuse... i mean begging hard!
claiming "I tripped when the iron
marred their face for life"... or uh...

oh! how about "danny" ruff ruff
one helluva dog hey? a ladies best friend

Now see how easy that was grandma

far as on or off topic, I scarcely think a cat will become president
although It would not surprise me if Rice is in office in the term
after next.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:51 AM
On Tue, 16 May 2006 20:28:13 GMT, "Matthew aka NMR"
> wrote:

>
>"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>>
>>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote in message
>>> > . ..
>>> >>
>>> >> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Matthew aka NMR" > wrote
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> > Trying to cut the throats of my Internet friends? How? Please
>>> >> >> > elaborate.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Take a look at your previous response post enough said. IMO it
>> looks
>>> >> > like
>>> >> >> your are out just for blood
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > My response to you was about politics, it was not personal.
>>> >> >
>>> >> It looked like it was and was wrote like it was personal
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Which thing did you take personally? I honestly did not mean to
>>> > hurt your feelings, if I did I apologize.
>>> >
>>> No Cyber you did not hurt my feeling I did not take it personally that
>>> is
>>> why I stopped I did not want friendships ruined due to pointless
>> arguments;
>>> which you know is true for both sides
>>> I will apologize also to you if you took me wrong but we both don't
>>> need
>>> worry for this is the internet and there will be another flame war
>> tomorrow
>>> for us to take sides in and have fun ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well thank heavens! I know I can be sharp when I feel strongly about
>> something, but I never mean it personally when I am talking about
>> politics. And, I must say, I know you are right about not talking
>> about certain issues. I had just kept quiet for a long time, and had
>> to have my say. ;) I'm finished now.
>
>Oh come on we can have messing with John Doe still if he ever shows up again
>can't we ;-)
>
You mean *trollbuster/header snecker* John Doe?

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:53 AM
On 16 May 2006 15:17:44 -0700, "BulletProof"
> wrote:

>
>P No Gree G O wrote:
>
>> One of my all-time favorite writers.
>
>isn't she graceful doing the backstroke...
>a thing of beauty
>
>don't worry, Nancy don't bite too hard, she just goes through these
>chemical rage flare ups I don't think she's eating right or
>something... or not near enough excersize

You're obsessed, She must have smacked you around real good.
>
>over in the cooking group I see's she's got a belly full of pig butt
>last night
>my guess is.. her polyester pants were a little snug this morning and
>well...
>prolly just made her feel a little frumpy
>
>We forgive her

"We"? You're alone KoOk.

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 12:55 AM
lastcatstanding wrote:

> Ya got my mail, send me what ya want.
>
> It's Playtime.

how far would you like me to go back

not to mention, you're gonna have to sign an electronic document
stating you are over the age of 18 young man!

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:56 AM
On 17 May 2006 01:03:23 +0200, "cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>
>> > Barry! We all do, here in Mayberry. We keep them up when there are
>cameras
>> > around, too. We're smart that way.
>>
>> so that's a yes? you do wear your polyester pants when you are mailing
>> your taxes?
>>
>
>:) What is this fixation you have about my taxes, son? I pay my taxes
>religiously.
>When was the last time you did yours?
>
>
>
Barry is still trying to figure out the Rabid Refund.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:56 AM
On Tue, 16 May 2006 23:09:37 GMT, "Matthew aka NMR"
> wrote:

>
>"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "BulletProof" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>>
>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>
>>> > Barry! We all do, here in Mayberry. We keep them up when there are
>> cameras
>>> > around, too. We're smart that way.
>>>
>>> so that's a yes? you do wear your polyester pants when you are mailing
>>> your taxes?
>>>
>>
>> :) What is this fixation you have about my taxes, son? I pay my taxes
>> religiously.
>> When was the last time you did yours?
>>
>That is cold brrr girl you can give as good as you get it wait does
>that look right I will leave it up to everyone imaginations he he
>
><grinning ear to ear >
>
She got you, You do fetch the peanuts well.

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 12:57 AM
lastcatstanding wrote:

> I have a good friend in Danville, he don't talk like that.

Im from the dirty ol southside of richmond
I don't live in danville

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:58 AM
On 17 May 2006 01:30:37 +0200, "cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "BulletProof" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>> >
>> > Poly wrote:
>> >
>> > > :) What is this fixation you have about my taxes, son? I pay my taxes
>> > > religiously.
>> > > When was the last time you did yours?
>> >
>> > no fixation, just a simple question Poly
>> >
>> > when's the last time you had your haircut?
>> >
>
>> About two weeks ago. Um, I understand that you have had a bad day and
>> everything, but I think the nice cat people have probably had enough of
>this
>> off-topic stuff.
>> Why not take it to email if you have something to say.
>>
>
>Of course, if you really want to talk about offtopic things,
>I guess I could oblige. I have some great topics in mind, but
>I still think they might be better discussed in a more appropriate
>group. Things like welfare fraud, food stamps, money-under-the
>table taken for construction jobs by people who claim not to even
>make enough money to pay ANY taxes, and then there is eBay.
>Child abuse, child abandonment, I can think of lots of things to
>talk about, including the comment you made that started this
>three ring circus.
>
>I am always happy to talk. But, really, we have contributed
>enough to what your good friend Joe calls "the noise-to-signal
>ratio" here in the cat group, don't you think?
>
Running away now?

cybercat
May 17th 06, 12:59 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
>
>
> > Of course, if you really want to talk about offtopic things,
> > I guess I could oblige. I have some great topics in mind, but
> > I still think they might be better discussed in a more appropriate
> > group. Things like welfare fraud, food stamps, money-under-the
> > table taken for construction jobs by people who claim not to even
> > make enough money to pay ANY taxes, and then there is eBay.
> > Child abuse, child abandonment, I can think of lots of things to
> > talk about, including the comment you made that started this
> > three ring circus.
>
> what are you talking about now grandma, this is rich!
>
> when I said you had to be rolling in the floor speaking in tongues..
> you qualified yourself first thing this morning with pure stammering
>
> Let's talk about your ebony girlfriends
> or maybe... 16 felony indicments..something
> bout an 86 yr old womans pension check or maybe...
> court transcripts of a certain person begging
> not to be thrown in prison for documented
> child abuse... i mean begging hard!
> claiming "I tripped when the iron
> marred their face for life"... or uh...
>
> oh! how about "danny" ruff ruff
> one helluva dog hey? a ladies best friend
>
> Now see how easy that was grandma
>
> far as on or off topic, I scarcely think a cat will become president
> although It would not surprise me if Rice is in office in the term
> after next.
>

Oh yeah? Well, how about let's talk about cannibalism and that
sweet little ewe you keep in your back yard, eh, boy? Let's talk
about Q-tips and gerbils and bellybutton lint and espionage and
sex change operations, shall we, stud?

And how about that little stash in your bottom drawer, eh junior? Or how
about stolen cable and hardcore porn, illegal handguns, and dressing up in
women's underwear, eh, there, son?

Do you think we have their attention yet?

(I did think the group was getting a little boring ... but enough's
enough.)

I think we should talk about cats.

(Your cat food shipped today. Four cases, 24 cans a case. Be
sure to shove one of them up your ass.)



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lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 12:59 AM
On 17 May 2006 00:28:10 +0200, "cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>>
>> P No Gree G O wrote:
>>
>> > One of my all-time favorite writers.
>>
>> isn't she graceful doing the backstroke...
>> a thing of beauty
>
>What are you talking about now, little boy? This was the natural progression
>of the conversation, no backpedaling involved.
>
>Do you imagine that the voices you hear in your jughead are real for
>all of us?
>
>Everything I said to you was true, and I would say it again.
>
>>
>> don't worry, Nancy don't bite too hard, she just goes through these
>> chemical rage flare ups I don't think she's eating right or
>> something... or not near enough excersize
>>
>> over in the cooking group I see's she's got a belly full of pig butt
>> last night
>> my guess is.. her polyester pants were a little snug this morning and
>> well...
>> prolly just made her feel a little frumpy
>>
>> We forgive her
>>
>
>You really are funny. You are a funny boy. It's true. My polyester
>pants are a little snug, it's true. But that was some damned good
>hot Italian sausage.
>
>
Ya always looked gud in dem poly panties baby. Don't ya fret none.

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 01:03 AM
lastcatstanding wrote:

> Ignore him sweety, he's just a troll.

oh good God just go jack off already

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 01:08 AM
On 16 May 2006 16:55:06 -0700, "BulletProof"
> wrote:

>
>lastcatstanding wrote:
>
>> Ya got my mail, send me what ya want.
>>
>> It's Playtime.
>
>how far would you like me to go back

Do waht you have to do cupcake, We'll do what we do.
>
>not to mention, you're gonna have to sign an electronic document
>stating you are over the age of 18 young man!

I got children older than you.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 01:09 AM
On 16 May 2006 17:03:19 -0700, "BulletProof"
> wrote:

>
>lastcatstanding wrote:
>
>> Ignore him sweety, he's just a troll.
>
>oh good God just go jack off already

Obsession with my sex habits noted. You're in the wrong froup cupcake.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 01:10 AM
On 16 May 2006 16:51:03 -0700, "BulletProof"
> wrote:

>
>cybercat wrote:
>
>
>
>> Of course, if you really want to talk about offtopic things,
>> I guess I could oblige. I have some great topics in mind, but
>> I still think they might be better discussed in a more appropriate
>> group. Things like welfare fraud, food stamps, money-under-the
>> table taken for construction jobs by people who claim not to even
>> make enough money to pay ANY taxes, and then there is eBay.
>> Child abuse, child abandonment, I can think of lots of things to
>> talk about, including the comment you made that started this
>> three ring circus.
>
>what are you talking about now grandma, this is rich!
>
>when I said you had to be rolling in the floor speaking in tongues..
>you qualified yourself first thing this morning with pure stammering
>
>Let's talk about your ebony girlfriends
>or maybe... 16 felony indicments..something
>bout an 86 yr old womans pension check or maybe...
>court transcripts of a certain person begging
>not to be thrown in prison for documented
>child abuse... i mean begging hard!
>claiming "I tripped when the iron
>marred their face for life"... or uh...
>
>oh! how about "danny" ruff ruff
>one helluva dog hey? a ladies best friend
>
>Now see how easy that was grandma
>
>far as on or off topic, I scarcely think a cat will become president
>although It would not surprise me if Rice is in office in the term
>after next.

You're a KoOk, an obsessed KoOk.

lastcatstanding
May 17th 06, 01:11 AM
On 17 May 2006 01:59:23 +0200, "cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Of course, if you really want to talk about offtopic things,
>> > I guess I could oblige. I have some great topics in mind, but
>> > I still think they might be better discussed in a more appropriate
>> > group. Things like welfare fraud, food stamps, money-under-the
>> > table taken for construction jobs by people who claim not to even
>> > make enough money to pay ANY taxes, and then there is eBay.
>> > Child abuse, child abandonment, I can think of lots of things to
>> > talk about, including the comment you made that started this
>> > three ring circus.
>>
>> what are you talking about now grandma, this is rich!
>>
>> when I said you had to be rolling in the floor speaking in tongues..
>> you qualified yourself first thing this morning with pure stammering
>>
>> Let's talk about your ebony girlfriends
>> or maybe... 16 felony indicments..something
>> bout an 86 yr old womans pension check or maybe...
>> court transcripts of a certain person begging
>> not to be thrown in prison for documented
>> child abuse... i mean begging hard!
>> claiming "I tripped when the iron
>> marred their face for life"... or uh...
>>
>> oh! how about "danny" ruff ruff
>> one helluva dog hey? a ladies best friend
>>
>> Now see how easy that was grandma
>>
>> far as on or off topic, I scarcely think a cat will become president
>> although It would not surprise me if Rice is in office in the term
>> after next.
>>
>
>Oh yeah? Well, how about let's talk about cannibalism and that
>sweet little ewe you keep in your back yard, eh, boy? Let's talk
>about Q-tips and gerbils and bellybutton lint and espionage and
>sex change operations, shall we, stud?
>
>And how about that little stash in your bottom drawer, eh junior? Or how
>about stolen cable and hardcore porn, illegal handguns, and dressing up in
>women's underwear, eh, there, son?
>
>Do you think we have their attention yet?
>
>(I did think the group was getting a little boring ... but enough's
>enough.)
>
>I think we should talk about cats.
>
>(Your cat food shipped today. Four cases, 24 cans a case. Be
>sure to shove one of them up your ass.)
>
Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!


UTB misses you. Did I mention I revived UTB?

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 01:21 AM
cybercat wrote:

> (Your cat food shipped today. Four cases, 24 cans a case. Be
> sure to shove one of them up your ass.)

cool thanks and I shipped your little favorite toys today too.. plus a
fresh DVD baby

mamma! I think I've GROWN

dem dry ice packed meals you been sending are very healthy, but I think
you are slipping a little something in them... if you know what I mean

May 17th 06, 01:44 AM
cybercat wrote:

> you are such a funny boy. If you ever send me anything, you
> better make it something better than that. This is two months I've
> fed your cats.

actually you should have gotten my package today, I sent it overnight
yesterday.
Oh well, so much for extra shipping charges..

you know, everytime I send regular mail it seems to get there in the
same time.

is it just me or the post office ripping the public off!

and since we are making a public record why not tell the whole truth

I never asked you to send me anything.
Cats where eating just fine.. the food just showed up AND I am gracious
I told you Thank You, that I appreciated what you sent.

Thanks again!

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 02:00 AM
cybercat wrote:

> I know you appreciate it. I assume you talked them out of turning off
> your phone or we would not be seeing you here. Good for you.

oh no! I caught two contracts today... which is cool
(just tile floors).. but not alot of cutting in and out
i can make good time on the stretches...
I ordered the materials today

i keep saying Im getting off this roller coaster construction business
but JUST when Im ready to throw in the towel, I ALWAYS get a contract.

I've been needing a good windfall too, this will give me time to finish
writing
my album... I enjoy the southern rock etc... but I have a little
project I've
been nursing.. songs like the one I sent you the other night. except I
wrote
these, lol... same caliber though FWIW
--

did you get your mortgage squared away.. I hate it for you, I know
those late fees
are a ****ing pain in the ass

> Tell the girls bon appetit, and have a good night.

actually... I feed them a higher quality food, but the man at the
corner store
gave me a good price on the case you sent, as I say, I am gracious, I
would
have never told you that, but since you need the drama, OR you cannot
control your rage... you leave me no choice. Sorry! but I did spend the
money
partly on your packages. :)

> Tomorrow let's talk about cats.

LOL

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 02:07 AM
lastcatstanding wrote:
> Hey Barry, Nice work. See ya on the flip side.

don't talk to me you ****ing loon
you can barely get your #@$%#$% cat to spend time with you
you're sitting there by your @$#@$# self...

seems like you would straighten the hell up and be normal

TURN THE @#[email protected]#%$% INTERNET OFF

WHY IN THE HELLL!! WOULD YOU TRY TO KEEP NANCY STIRRED UP

boredom?

there's a whole ****ing lot you don't ****ing know alright!
be friends man.. but don't come ****ing around on the tail end of a
mentally exhausting day and EVER pull that **** again...

how much do you weigh

do you eat healthy foods? just curios

you know, if you catch for example a possum they are nasty.. but you
can eat them
but you have to hem them up first and feed them say.. corn... it cleans
them out
you know get all the mcdonalds and greasy ass border food out of them

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 02:09 AM
cybercat wrote:
> "BulletProof" > wrote in
>
> <Sorry! but I did spend the
> > money
> > partly on your packages. :)
> >
>
> Cool, you really sent me somefing?
>
> WHAT is it? Is it a suprize??

let's just hope the post office scanners don't pick up on it

AND FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T SHAKE IT, JUST OPEN IT

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 02:11 AM
lastcatstanding wrote:

> A pair like you two, Hmmm! UTB could use you. Barry, I hace a contract
> fer ya.

you can't afford a contract
just keep it real man

hows them nasty rotted gums doing these days
still keeping you up at night? lol

it's all that damn beer and CANDY

KHHHAAAANNNNDDDYYYY

cybercat
May 17th 06, 02:24 AM
"lastcatstanding" > wrote
>>sure to shove one of them up your ass.)
>>
> Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
>
>

Hey! I am so sorry, you slipped into my killfile by mistake!

I did not see your posts until Barry bigballs answered you.

Check your mail. :)



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 02:26 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> (Your cat food shipped today. Four cases, 24 cans a case. Be
>> sure to shove one of them up your ass.)
>
> cool thanks and I shipped your little favorite toys today too.. plus a
> fresh DVD baby
>
> mamma! I think I've GROWN
>
> dem dry ice packed meals you been sending are very healthy, but I think
> you are slipping a little something in them... if you know what I mean
>

*shaking my head*

you are such a funny boy. If you ever send me anything, you
better make it something better than that. This is two months I've
fed your cats.




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BulletProof
May 17th 06, 02:29 AM
cybercat wrote:

> Orrrrr .... he is trolling us both.

;)


you know I couldn't wrap this up without getting at least one over on
you

lamey
i mean lastcat was the perfect little backboard

eeew too easy, im bad

I think he likes you Cybie

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 02:35 AM
cybercat wrote:

> Does this mean I am not getting a package??

uh! go stand outside! watch for the mailman

BulletProof
May 17th 06, 02:39 AM
lastcatstanding wrote:

> Anyway, Have a good evening and sharpen that tile cutter, Ya got work
> to do.

don't worry bout it slim, it's my cash cow and my health!

here's to good health

would you believe I have never had a cavity in my life...

now I did have a tootheache once, but that's what I get for eating 2
lbs of chocolate
and 3 diet pepsi's through the course of a single afternoon

so for your rotted gum holes i'd reccomend backing off on the suds
but more importantly, let me reccomend brushing your teeth at least
2wice a day
if you won't brush at least try to floss.(this is after you gargle with
mouth wash)
if your teeth are all pared down and jagged and it tears the string all
to hell
double the string and use a waxed floss

this will also remove any rotted smell from your breath, which cats may
find offensive

good luck!

cybercat
May 17th 06, 02:48 AM
> wrote in message
ps.com...
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> you are such a funny boy. If you ever send me anything, you
>> better make it something better than that. This is two months I've
>> fed your cats.
>
> actually you should have gotten my package today, I sent it overnight
> yesterday.
> Oh well, so much for extra shipping charges..
>
> you know, everytime I send regular mail it seems to get there in the
> same time.
>
> is it just me or the post office ripping the public off!

I wish you would send me something. But then, you have kept me
entertained during a long and tedious work day that still has not
ended.


>
> and since we are making a public record why not tell the whole truth
>
> I never asked you to send me anything.
> Cats where eating just fine.. the food just showed up AND I am gracious
> I told you Thank You, that I appreciated what you sent.
>
> Thanks again!
>

I know you appreciate it. I assume you talked them out of turning off
your phone or we would not be seeing you here. Good for you.

Tell the girls bon appetit, and have a good night.

Tomorrow let's talk about cats.



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 02:58 AM
"lastcatstanding" > wrote in message
inds-media.phx...
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 20:48:47 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
ps.com...
>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>
>>>> you are such a funny boy. If you ever send me anything, you
>>>> better make it something better than that. This is two months I've
>>>> fed your cats.
>>>
>>> actually you should have gotten my package today, I sent it overnight
>>> yesterday.
>>> Oh well, so much for extra shipping charges..
>>>
>>> you know, everytime I send regular mail it seems to get there in the
>>> same time.
>>>
>>> is it just me or the post office ripping the public off!
>>
>>I wish you would send me something. But then, you have kept me
>>entertained during a long and tedious work day that still has not
>>ended.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> and since we are making a public record why not tell the whole truth
>>>
>>> I never asked you to send me anything.
>>> Cats where eating just fine.. the food just showed up AND I am gracious
>>> I told you Thank You, that I appreciated what you sent.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>
>>I know you appreciate it. I assume you talked them out of turning off
>>your phone or we would not be seeing you here. Good for you.
>>
>>Tell the girls bon appetit, and have a good night.
>>
>>Tomorrow let's talk about cats.
>>
> Aw shucks, You torlled me w/out you or me even knowing it.
>
> Oh well, Tell Barry I said...Oh hell I'll tell him myself.
>
>
> Hey Barry, Nice work. See ya on the flip side.
>
>
Barry and I like to do a bit of performance art every now
and again!

Keeps the group interesting and ****es off the webtvers.

You hace been TORLLED! :D



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 03:04 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in

<Sorry! but I did spend the
> money
> partly on your packages. :)
>

Cool, you really sent me somefing?

WHAT is it? Is it a suprize??



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 03:12 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> lastcatstanding wrote:
>> Hey Barry, Nice work. See ya on the flip side.
>
> don't talk to me you ****ing loon
> you can barely get your #@$%#$% cat to spend time with you
> you're sitting there by your @$#@$# self...
>
> seems like you would straighten the hell up and be normal
>
> TURN THE @#[email protected]#%$% INTERNET OFF
>
> WHY IN THE HELLL!! WOULD YOU TRY TO KEEP NANCY STIRRED UP
>

I wasn't stirred up. You don't really mean that you were serious
about any of this stuff, do you??

OMG.

Are you okay?

****, lastcat, I thought he was playing .... maybe not ...
If not, Barry has a bigger problem than I thought ...



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 03:22 AM
"lastcatstanding" > wrote in message
inds-media.phx...
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 21:12:34 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>>>
>>> lastcatstanding wrote:
>>>> Hey Barry, Nice work. See ya on the flip side.
>>>
>>> don't talk to me you ****ing loon
>>> you can barely get your #@$%#$% cat to spend time with you
>>> you're sitting there by your @$#@$# self...
>>>
>>> seems like you would straighten the hell up and be normal
>>>
>>> TURN THE @#[email protected]#%$% INTERNET OFF
>>>
>>> WHY IN THE HELLL!! WOULD YOU TRY TO KEEP NANCY STIRRED UP
>>>
>>
>>I wasn't stirred up. You don't really mean that you were serious
>>about any of this stuff, do you??
>
> Poor lad, He need a floor to install.
>>
>>OMG.
>
> Yes?
>>
>>Are you okay?
>
> For someone from VA, he is.
>>
>>****, lastcat, I thought he was playing .... maybe not ...
>>If not, Barry has a bigger problem than I thought ...
>>
> He's a tile boi from Virginny, that says it all.
>
Orrrrr .... he is trolling us both.



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 03:28 AM
"lastcatstanding" > wrote in message
inds-media.phx...
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 21:22:51 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"lastcatstanding" > wrote in message
inds-media.phx...
>>> On Tue, 16 May 2006 21:12:34 -0500, "cybercat" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> lastcatstanding wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Barry, Nice work. See ya on the flip side.
>>>>>
>>>>> don't talk to me you ****ing loon
>>>>> you can barely get your #@$%#$% cat to spend time with you
>>>>> you're sitting there by your @$#@$# self...
>>>>>
>>>>> seems like you would straighten the hell up and be normal
>>>>>
>>>>> TURN THE @#[email protected]#%$% INTERNET OFF
>>>>>
>>>>> WHY IN THE HELLL!! WOULD YOU TRY TO KEEP NANCY STIRRED UP
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I wasn't stirred up. You don't really mean that you were serious
>>>>about any of this stuff, do you??
>>>
>>> Poor lad, He need a floor to install.
>>>>
>>>>OMG.
>>>
>>> Yes?
>>>>
>>>>Are you okay?
>>>
>>> For someone from VA, he is.
>>>>
>>>>****, lastcat, I thought he was playing .... maybe not ...
>>>>If not, Barry has a bigger problem than I thought ...
>>>>
>>> He's a tile boi from Virginny, that says it all.
>>>
>>Orrrrr .... he is trolling us both.
>>
> Bah!
>
Damned trolls. :)



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 03:31 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> Orrrrr .... he is trolling us both.
>
> ;)
>
>
> you know I couldn't wrap this up without getting at least one over on
> you
>
> lamey
> i mean lastcat was the perfect little backboard
>
> eeew too easy, im bad

Yes, you are. I was almost upset there for a minute.

Does this mean I am not getting a package??

>
> I think he likes you Cybie
>

We like each other. We go wayyy back.
He's a good man.



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 06:35 AM
"Rev. Jack" > wrote in message
e.com...
> On 14 May 2006 00:25:45 -0700, "-L." > wrote:
>
> >
> >Matthew aka NMR wrote:
> >> It is funny how all the puppets dance and blame the president for their
> >> problems. He is just a figure head he does what he is told to do by
others.
> >> Blame them they are called your politicians. But that is right it to
easy
> >> to take aim at our nation's leader and forget the rest of the people
that
> >> help keep him or put him in the White House. He is accountable for
certain
> >> things yes but how and why does he get this power to make him
accountable
> >> OUR POLITICIANS
> >>
> >> Do we really want to start bring up other presidents past lets say
personal
> >> choices or what their families have done. We can start with the last
> >> President and Democratic in Office who got blowjob from his assistant
or did
> >> everyone forget about that.
> >
> >Oh please. Yes, let's compare him with the current bag of dog ****.
> >Yes, he got his dick *blown* and the current bag of dog **** -
> >offensively - *blows* the arms and legs off innocent people daily, for
> >no good ****ing reason, and has for ...how many years now?
> >
> >Don't tell me you actually voted for that bag of dog ****. Oh wait -
> >you're from Florida. You probably elected Jeb too...
> >
> >-L.
>
> I live in Florida and I can proudly say I have never punched a chad or
> bubbled a Bush on a ballot, and I NEVER will.
>
>
> Rev. Jack
>
> My fish aren't very happy.
> ~~~~ }<((((x> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{x> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((x>

I cannot tell you how nice it is to see you, Rev! :D



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-L.
May 17th 06, 06:44 AM
cybercat wrote:

>But that was some damned good
> hot Italian sausage.

You really should not discuss your marital sex life on Usenet, you
know.

-L.

cybercat
May 17th 06, 06:49 AM
"-L." > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
> >But that was some damned good
> > hot Italian sausage.
>
> You really should not discuss your marital sex life on Usenet, you
> know.
>

lol!

My bad. That Italian Stallion, those fresh buns and oooooo that wild
mustard!

The bean soup really did turn out good too. While I was wolfing that
sausage sandwich I was telling myself, "it's okay. Tomorrow this will be
a condiment for a large pot of beans and carrots and onions and peppers!"

The things we tell ourselves. ;)



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cybercat
May 17th 06, 01:44 PM
"Rev. Jack" > wrote in message
e.com...
> On 12 May 2006 20:14:31 -0700, "Candace" > wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >> Meow everyone. You gotta see this cat's site. I dare you to keep a
> >> straight face.
> >>
> >> www.presidentcat.com
> >>
> >> DEEEElightful and a platform which will get him elected.
> >>
> >> Cheers to all,
> >>
> >> Louis Cane
> >
> >Better'n that ****wad Jeb Bush.
> >
> >Candace
>
> I am Rev. Jack and I approve of this pozt.
>
>
> Rev. Jack
>


Man! I had forgotten that this one little comment by Candace
started this whole monster political thread!



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-L.
May 18th 06, 07:34 AM
P No Gree G O wrote:
>
> I get it. For me to be a successful woman whom men don't hate, I must
> be stroking their egos or somehow reimbursing their "kindness?"
>
> Bzzzzzzt.

You can bet your sweet ass they are talking behind your back. Why do
you think the glass ceiling exists? Women still make a fraction of
what men make in the same jobs. The proof is in the pudding, er, bank
account, so to speak...


>
> I'm actually known to be quite outspoken and even adversarial at times,
> when warranted. I LOVE to play devil's advocate at meetings and get
> everyone thinking. I'm told most people admire me for these qualities.
> Know why?

Because you're so humble? Nah, can't be that! LOL...

<snip>

> That I can agree with. And this does happen in society... but not to
> the degree so many women claim it does. I know a lot of women who use
> this kind of illustration merely as an excuse for their lack of success.

Oh bull****. You're just like the black person who says there is no
racism in the US. You sure like to make assumptions about situations
you know nothing about.

-L.

-L.
May 18th 06, 07:46 AM
cybercat wrote:
> "-L." > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >
> > Matthew aka NMR wrote:
> >
> > >One is praying for an
> > > assassination and for someone to use a gun on themselves.
> >
> > I make no apologies for either statement. I would more than happy if
> > someone took Butt **** Jr. out and his little ****pile vice with him -
> > and add Turd Blossom to the mix as well. Turd Blossom is actually the
> > most dangerous because he's smart.
> >
> Okay, I will bite. Who is Turd Blossom?
>

Karl Rove. It's a name ****wad Jr. made up for him, and calls him. A
turd blossom is a cow patty (a pile of cow ****).

-L.

P No Gree G O
May 18th 06, 03:42 PM
-L. wrote:

> P No Gree G O wrote:
>
>>I get it. For me to be a successful woman whom men don't hate, I must
>>be stroking their egos or somehow reimbursing their "kindness?"
>>
>>Bzzzzzzt.
>
>
> You can bet your sweet ass they are talking behind your back.

Holy cow, you are one bitter person.

> Why do
> you think the glass ceiling exists? Women still make a fraction of
> what men make in the same jobs. The proof is in the pudding, er, bank
> account, so to speak...

I agree that those things did exist in the past and to a degree in the
present, but certainly they are not the norm nor even common any more.

>
>
>
>>I'm actually known to be quite outspoken and even adversarial at times,
>>when warranted. I LOVE to play devil's advocate at meetings and get
>>everyone thinking. I'm told most people admire me for these qualities.
>>Know why?
>
>
> Because you're so humble? Nah, can't be that! LOL...

Blowing your own horn -- in the proper manner, of course -- is what
breaks glass ceilings.


>>That I can agree with. And this does happen in society... but not to
>>the degree so many women claim it does. I know a lot of women who use
>>this kind of illustration merely as an excuse for their lack of success.
>
>
> Oh bull****. You're just like the black person who says there is no
> racism in the US. You sure like to make assumptions about situations
> you know nothing about.

And your assumption that I know nothing about this is based on what?


L, you're really way too defensive and that huge chip on your shoulder
makes conversing with you very unpleasant. I'm done...

-L.
May 18th 06, 04:37 PM
P No Gree G O wrote:
> -L. wrote:
>
> > P No Gree G O wrote:
> >
> >>I get it. For me to be a successful woman whom men don't hate, I must
> >>be stroking their egos or somehow reimbursing their "kindness?"
> >>
> >>Bzzzzzzt.
> >
> >
> > You can bet your sweet ass they are talking behind your back.
>
> Holy cow, you are one bitter person.

No sweetheart, a realist. Someday someone will break your rose-colored
glasses.

>
> > Why do
> > you think the glass ceiling exists? Women still make a fraction of
> > what men make in the same jobs. The proof is in the pudding, er, bank
> > account, so to speak...
>
> I agree that those things did exist in the past and to a degree in the
> present, but certainly they are not the norm nor even common any more.

The data speaks for itself:

http://www.iwpr.org/Publications/pdf.htm#ee

http://www.aauw.org/research/statedata/

http://www.coe.ilstu.edu/scienceed/ci538/papers/kohtz.html

http://www.amazoncastle.com/feminism/myths.shtml

(references at the bottom of each page for the last two)

Of course you'll probably chalk this all up to some feminist
hysteria...


> Blowing your own horn -- in the proper manner, of course -- is what
> breaks glass ceilings.

Oh, please...

<snip>

The fact that you know nothing at all about it is self-evident.

> L, you're really way too defensive and that huge chip on your shoulder
> makes conversing with you very unpleasant. I'm done...

Bull****. You'll read every word I've written because you can't help
yourself. You are a disgrace to women everywhere.

-L.

CatNipped
May 18th 06, 10:17 PM
I wasn't going to post on this thread, arguing politics is never a good
idea. But what the hell...

Be aware that I'm making some *very* broad generalizations here in order to
make points, and there are places where my tongue is stuck firmly in my
cheek (I'll leave it to the reader to figure out where ;>).

==================

I guess most people would describe me as a middle-of-the-roader (probably
leaning a bit left), taking what I think are the best ideas from each party
and discarding the crap. I think most Americans feel the same way, they
just aren't as vocal as the extremists of both parties (and probably the
reason why the middle-of-the-roaders - the "silent majority" - are silent is
because when we speak up we get blasted from both sides! ;>).

But the way I describe myself is as a "rational anarchist". I think
government should consist of *ONLY* the infrastructure necessary to build
bridges and wage war (at the behest of the people, not its own whims).

It's a truism that people get exactly the government that they want. For
the past half century the American people have wanted to suck at the teat of
public weal. They wanted their welfare and food stamps and grants and
subsidies - they wanted their government to care for them and feed them and
protect them. Well folks, if you insist on behaving like cattle, don't
bitch when they take your ass off to the slaughter house.

It seems to me that the people who call for the "government" to take care of
everybody are either those who have always been well off and haven't had to
face the harsh realities of survival or those who want to use those programs
for their own advantages. The universe doesn't owe anybody a living and
doesn't "give" anything to those who won't fight for it - why should we?
The lion will never lie down with the lamb no matter how much you wish on
falling stars and rainbows and butterflies. It's a dog eat dog world and if
you believe differently for even a second you may as well lie down and pour
Alpo over your head!

When I divorced my abusive, alcoholic first husband (back in the stone age)
there were no "battered women's shelters" (I finally had to *seriously*
attempt to run him down with a car and threaten to shoot his cowardly ass if
he ever came around me again before he left me alone, left the state, and
went crying home to Alabama to live with mommy and daddy). And there was no
enforcement of child support (and I got no help from my family who,
rightfully, told me I had to face the consequences of my former choices).

I didn't qualify for welfare, or food stamps, or even legal aid because I
wanted to *work* for my own money and go to college so I could eventually
create a better life for myself and my two children. I made $8,000 *NET*
income annually. I *really* didn't want one fourth to one third of that
going to another woman living in government housing with 10 children from 10
different fathers to pay for her to sit on her ass watching soap operas on
her color TV while she and her welfare brats ate steak - while my children
were living on peanut butter on stale bread for weeks at a time! If you
have enough money to provide for your family and still have some to give
away to those who aren't willing to work for themselves or their families,
well bless you and more power to you - but don't take money out of the
pockets of the working poor to do it!

Think about base survival. If you were on an island with a stranger and had
only one loaf of bread, would you share it? Well, maybe - especially if
that other person is willing to help you survive in other ways. But if you
were there with your child, would you still be willing to take that bread
out of your child's mouth to share it with that stranger? I fought for and
earned every bite of bread that went into my family's mouths - I *really*
didn't want that bread taken away from my children and given to someone else
who was too lazy to get up and earn it for themselves. I'm at a place in my
life now where I have the luxury of being able to give to others, but I
still want that to be voluntary and given to those I choose and at my own
discretion.

As far as the plight of women today - it's disgusting what we've done to
ourselves in the past 50 years! The singer, "Pink", has it right when she
says (paraphrasing from her song "Stupid Girls") where is our next woman
president - she's on an MTV video, dancing half naked and shaking her tits
next to "Fiddy Cent". She's allowing herself to be used as a three-hole cum
receptacle, being slapped around, being called "bitch" and "ho", and coming
back asking "Please sir may I have some more?"!!!

Gloria Steinem was the biggest traitor to her sex to have ever lived (and
made quite a tidy fortune from the fools who believed her **** about women
needing to behave like men). I never wanted to be equal to men - I was
quite happy being up there on that pedestal instead of wallowing in the mud
of the base animal instincts that drive men in their sexual interactions.
We *VALUED* ourselves more than that. Our bodies used to be sacred and
sacrosanct - beyond price - to be shared only with the one man we trusted to
love us, be faithful to us, respect and protect us for the rest of our
lives. A man, while sometimes, weakly, taking advantage of the local slut
to scratch their itch, would never think of taking that slut as a wife - he
wanted someone he could trust to love him, be faithful to him, respect and
support him for the rest of his days.

Women now are too stupid to understand Economics 101 - the law of supply and
demand. What is in short supply, what is valued highly, is more in demand.
Nobody is going to think more of you than you think of yourself - we all
teach others how to treat us. Stop and think just a minute... would you buy
a 2 liter of coke that has been drunk out of by 50 strangers with all their
various germs and diseases, or would you rather have one that's been sealed
for your protection and is to be consumed by only you? What is so hard to
understand about this concept???!

And women in the workplace... is there a glass ceiling? Yes, probably
(although John Stossel now claims this is a myth). But, again, it's
something we're doing to ourselves. Instead of negotiating for a salary
that matches our skills, we accept a job at whatever salary we're offered,
we work hard, and then we wait for our employers to recognize how talented
we are and reward us for being good little girls. And when employers
(obviously, to them, saving themselves some money) do not give us that raise
we didn't ask for, we whine and complain that we're not being paid as much
as the man at the next desk who had the balls to go and demand the salary he
thinks he is worth (and men, having an overblown opinion of what they're
worth, naturally are going to get a lot more).

An employer is going to pay you what you demand to be paid if that's the
best deal on the market, no matter what type of genitals you have between
your legs. No successful businessman is going to put his prejudice before
his bottom line. I've made *at least* twice as much as my husband,
sometimes more, in the last 15 years of our 20 year marriage - even though
he is more intelligent and better trained than I am. He just doesn't ask
for what he's worth, and I do. Nobody who is not a friend or family member
is going to just up and give you something from the goodness of their heart.
The way the world works is, if you want something you have to ask for it -
if it's something that you really want, you have to fight for it - if it's
something precious to you, you have to be willing to die for it. Again, eat
or be eaten.

The world is not nice, it's not fair, it's not all sweetness and light - it
never was and it never will be. There will always be people who are taken
advantage of and there will always be people who will take advantage. Some
very nice, deserving people will be down-trodden, devalued, used and abused.
Some people will starve to death while others will spend thousands of
dollars to deal with their overweight. There wasn't a guarantee of
satisfaction stuck in the afterbirth when I was born, so I learned from the
start to take the universe exactly at face value and fight tooth and nail to
survive. And if there is any fairness in life it's in knowing that, for the
most part, the fit and the lucky will survive and the unfit and unlucky will
die - work within those constraints and you'll be OK.

OK, there's more than enough fodder above to tear apart and criticize, I
even put up some very rickety strawmen - have fun kiddies. All arguments
and counter views will be thoughtfully considered, all flames will be used
to roast marshmallows! ;>

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

CatNipped
May 19th 06, 12:09 AM
"CatNipped" > wrote in message
...
>I wasn't going to post on this thread, arguing politics is never a good
>idea. But what the hell...
>
> Be aware that I'm making some *very* broad generalizations here in order
> to make points, and there are places where my tongue is stuck firmly in my
> cheek (I'll leave it to the reader to figure out where ;>).
>
> ==================
>
> I guess most people would describe me as a middle-of-the-roader (probably
> leaning a bit left), taking what I think are the best ideas from each
> party and discarding the crap. I think most Americans feel the same way,
> they just aren't as vocal as the extremists of both parties (and probably
> the reason why the middle-of-the-roaders - the "silent majority" - are
> silent is because when we speak up we get blasted from both sides! ;>).
>
> But the way I describe myself is as a "rational anarchist". I think
> government should consist of *ONLY* the infrastructure necessary to build
> bridges and wage war (at the behest of the people, not its own whims).
>
> It's a truism that people get exactly the government that they want. For
> the past half century the American people have wanted to suck at the teat
> of public weal. They wanted their welfare and food stamps and grants and
> subsidies - they wanted their government to care for them and feed them
> and protect them. Well folks, if you insist on behaving like cattle,
> don't bitch when they take your ass off to the slaughter house.
>
> It seems to me that the people who call for the "government" to take care
> of everybody are either those who have always been well off and haven't
> had to face the harsh realities of survival or those who want to use those
> programs for their own advantages. The universe doesn't owe anybody a
> living and doesn't "give" anything to those who won't fight for it - why
> should we? The lion will never lie down with the lamb no matter how much
> you wish on falling stars and rainbows and butterflies. It's a dog eat
> dog world and if you believe differently for even a second you may as well
> lie down and pour Alpo over your head!
>
> When I divorced my abusive, alcoholic first husband (back in the stone
> age) there were no "battered women's shelters" (I finally had to
> *seriously* attempt to run him down with a car and threaten to shoot his
> cowardly ass if he ever came around me again before he left me alone, left
> the state, and went crying home to Alabama to live with mommy and daddy).
> And there was no enforcement of child support (and I got no help from my
> family who, rightfully, told me I had to face the consequences of my
> former choices).
>
> I didn't qualify for welfare, or food stamps, or even legal aid because I
> wanted to *work* for my own money and go to college so I could eventually
> create a better life for myself and my two children. I made $8,000 *NET*
> income annually.

That should have been *GROSS* income - I made a lot less than $8,000 net
income.

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/



> I *really* didn't want one fourth to one third of that going to another
> woman living in government housing with 10 children from 10 different
> fathers to pay for her to sit on her ass watching soap operas on her color
> TV while she and her welfare brats ate steak - while my children were
> living on peanut butter on stale bread for weeks at a time! If you have
> enough money to provide for your family and still have some to give away
> to those who aren't willing to work for themselves or their families, well
> bless you and more power to you - but don't take money out of the pockets
> of the working poor to do it!
>
> Think about base survival. If you were on an island with a stranger and
> had only one loaf of bread, would you share it? Well, maybe - especially
> if that other person is willing to help you survive in other ways. But if
> you were there with your child, would you still be willing to take that
> bread out of your child's mouth to share it with that stranger? I fought
> for and earned every bite of bread that went into my family's mouths - I
> *really* didn't want that bread taken away from my children and given to
> someone else who was too lazy to get up and earn it for themselves. I'm
> at a place in my life now where I have the luxury of being able to give to
> others, but I still want that to be voluntary and given to those I choose
> and at my own discretion.
>
> As far as the plight of women today - it's disgusting what we've done to
> ourselves in the past 50 years! The singer, "Pink", has it right when she
> says (paraphrasing from her song "Stupid Girls") where is our next woman
> president - she's on an MTV video, dancing half naked and shaking her tits
> next to "Fiddy Cent". She's allowing herself to be used as a three-hole
> cum receptacle, being slapped around, being called "bitch" and "ho", and
> coming back asking "Please sir may I have some more?"!!!
>
> Gloria Steinem was the biggest traitor to her sex to have ever lived (and
> made quite a tidy fortune from the fools who believed her **** about women
> needing to behave like men). I never wanted to be equal to men - I was
> quite happy being up there on that pedestal instead of wallowing in the
> mud of the base animal instincts that drive men in their sexual
> interactions. We *VALUED* ourselves more than that. Our bodies used to be
> sacred and sacrosanct - beyond price - to be shared only with the one man
> we trusted to love us, be faithful to us, respect and protect us for the
> rest of our lives. A man, while sometimes, weakly, taking advantage of
> the local slut to scratch their itch, would never think of taking that
> slut as a wife - he wanted someone he could trust to love him, be faithful
> to him, respect and support him for the rest of his days.
>
> Women now are too stupid to understand Economics 101 - the law of supply
> and demand. What is in short supply, what is valued highly, is more in
> demand. Nobody is going to think more of you than you think of yourself -
> we all teach others how to treat us. Stop and think just a minute...
> would you buy a 2 liter of coke that has been drunk out of by 50 strangers
> with all their various germs and diseases, or would you rather have one
> that's been sealed for your protection and is to be consumed by only you?
> What is so hard to understand about this concept???!
>
> And women in the workplace... is there a glass ceiling? Yes, probably
> (although John Stossel now claims this is a myth). But, again, it's
> something we're doing to ourselves. Instead of negotiating for a salary
> that matches our skills, we accept a job at whatever salary we're offered,
> we work hard, and then we wait for our employers to recognize how talented
> we are and reward us for being good little girls. And when employers
> (obviously, to them, saving themselves some money) do not give us that
> raise we didn't ask for, we whine and complain that we're not being paid
> as much as the man at the next desk who had the balls to go and demand the
> salary he thinks he is worth (and men, having an overblown opinion of what
> they're worth, naturally are going to get a lot more).
>
> An employer is going to pay you what you demand to be paid if that's the
> best deal on the market, no matter what type of genitals you have between
> your legs. No successful businessman is going to put his prejudice before
> his bottom line. I've made *at least* twice as much as my husband,
> sometimes more, in the last 15 years of our 20 year marriage - even though
> he is more intelligent and better trained than I am. He just doesn't ask
> for what he's worth, and I do. Nobody who is not a friend or family
> member is going to just up and give you something from the goodness of
> their heart. The way the world works is, if you want something you have to
> ask for it - if it's something that you really want, you have to fight for
> it - if it's something precious to you, you have to be willing to die for
> it. Again, eat or be eaten.
>
> The world is not nice, it's not fair, it's not all sweetness and light -
> it never was and it never will be. There will always be people who are
> taken advantage of and there will always be people who will take
> advantage. Some very nice, deserving people will be down-trodden,
> devalued, used and abused. Some people will starve to death while others
> will spend thousands of dollars to deal with their overweight. There
> wasn't a guarantee of satisfaction stuck in the afterbirth when I was
> born, so I learned from the start to take the universe exactly at face
> value and fight tooth and nail to survive. And if there is any fairness
> in life it's in knowing that, for the most part, the fit and the lucky
> will survive and the unfit and unlucky will die - work within those
> constraints and you'll be OK.
>
> OK, there's more than enough fodder above to tear apart and criticize, I
> even put up some very rickety strawmen - have fun kiddies. All arguments
> and counter views will be thoughtfully considered, all flames will be used
> to roast marshmallows! ;>
>
> --
>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped
>
> See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/
>

BulletProof
May 19th 06, 03:06 AM
CatNipped wrote:


> OK, there's more than enough fodder above to tear apart and criticize, I
> even put up some very rickety strawmen - have fun kiddies. All arguments
> and counter views will be thoughtfully considered, all flames will be used
> to roast marshmallows! ;>


I did find one strawman, but.. you're about right.. I think you know
which one Iim talking about..

I also found the stuck tongue in the war statement, that was very
nicely put.
I always thought we we're supposed to be a republic, and that's not
what we got today.

I take your stand when It comes to people who.. like a frog in the
mud.. croak about our leaders! I mean, we put them there, we decided
how things will be run.

Hey... check out the topic, a Cat will be president... hmmm, catnipped
what do you think..

cybercat
May 19th 06, 03:12 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote:
>
> Hey... check out the topic, a Cat will be president... hmmm, catnipped
> what do you think..
>

My Gracie has wonderful qualities and would be a fine president except
for two things:

She would persecute rubber snakes and throw up on the oval office
rug.

Her best quality is her pacifism. She would never take us to war because
her answer to every possible problem is

RUN AWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE!



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BulletProof
May 19th 06, 05:10 AM
cybercat wrote:
<kheee>

uh... it's midnight at the oasis
time to put your camel to bed

cybercat
May 19th 06, 07:37 AM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> cybercat wrote:
> <kheee>
>
> uh... it's midnight at the oasis
> time to put your camel to bed
>

Not around here. :)



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-L.
May 19th 06, 10:00 AM
CatNipped wrote:
<snip>

I agree the people have recieved what they wanted - 51% of them. 49%
of us are disgusted and terribly dissatisfied.

>
> It seems to me that the people who call for the "government" to take care of
> everybody are either those who have always been well off and haven't had to
> face the harsh realities of survival or those who want to use those programs
> for their own advantages.

I fall into neither category. I am a socialist in the true meaning of
the word. I believe at my core we have a responsibility to take care
of each other - morally, ethically, and religiously believe so. I was
not born with a silver spoon in my mouth, rather, I was lucky to have
any food at all in any spoon. I am self-made - worked for every penny
I ever earned and retired at 36 in 1999. I have seen both sides of the
tracks and I know how people suffer.

I find it absolutley disgusting and abhorrent that we - supposedly one
of the richest countries in the world - have people living on the
streets in squalor, starving to death. Death of children under 5 is
extremely high - 31 countries have better infant and child mortality
rates than we do. Surely to god we can take better care of one another
than we are currently doing.



>The universe doesn't owe anybody a living and
> doesn't "give" anything to those who won't fight for it - why should we?
> The lion will never lie down with the lamb no matter how much you wish on
> falling stars and rainbows and butterflies. It's a dog eat dog world and if
> you believe differently for even a second you may as well lie down and pour
> Alpo over your head!
>
> When I divorced my abusive, alcoholic first husband (back in the stone age)
> there were no "battered women's shelters" (I finally had to *seriously*
> attempt to run him down with a car and threaten to shoot his cowardly ass if
> he ever came around me again before he left me alone, left the state, and
> went crying home to Alabama to live with mommy and daddy). And there was no
> enforcement of child support (and I got no help from my family who,
> rightfully, told me I had to face the consequences of my former choices).
>
> I didn't qualify for welfare, or food stamps, or even legal aid because I
> wanted to *work* for my own money and go to college so I could eventually
> create a better life for myself and my two children. I made $8,000 *NET*
> income annually. I *really* didn't want one fourth to one third of that
> going to another woman living in government housing with 10 children from 10
> different fathers to pay for her to sit on her ass watching soap operas on
> her color TV while she and her welfare brats ate steak - while my children
> were living on peanut butter on stale bread for weeks at a time! If you
> have enough money to provide for your family and still have some to give
> away to those who aren't willing to work for themselves or their families,
> well bless you and more power to you - but don't take money out of the
> pockets of the working poor to do it!

You do realize that the majority of welfare recipients are on welfare
for less than 2 years and are people who have lost jobs and cannot find
work?

>
> Think about base survival. If you were on an island with a stranger and had
> only one loaf of bread, would you share it? Well, maybe - especially if
> that other person is willing to help you survive in other ways. But if you
> were there with your child, would you still be willing to take that bread
> out of your child's mouth to share it with that stranger? I fought for and
> earned every bite of bread that went into my family's mouths - I *really*
> didn't want that bread taken away from my children and given to someone else
> who was too lazy to get up and earn it for themselves. I'm at a place in my
> life now where I have the luxury of being able to give to others, but I
> still want that to be voluntary and given to those I choose and at my own
> discretion.

Some people have better resources than others. Some people have better
skills than others. Some people simply are smarter than others. Just
because you were able to survive and make your own way doesn't mean
that everyone else can. Furthermore, you have inherent unearned
privledges and advantages being Caucasian.
..

>
> As far as the plight of women today - it's disgusting what we've done to
> ourselves in the past 50 years! The singer, "Pink", has it right when she
> says (paraphrasing from her song "Stupid Girls") where is our next woman
> president - she's on an MTV video, dancing half naked and shaking her tits
> next to "Fiddy Cent". She's allowing herself to be used as a three-hole cum
> receptacle, being slapped around, being called "bitch" and "ho", and coming
> back asking "Please sir may I have some more?"!!!

That's her choice, as it should be.


>
> Gloria Steinem was the biggest traitor to her sex to have ever lived (and
> made quite a tidy fortune from the fools who believed her **** about women
> needing to behave like men). I never wanted to be equal to men - I was
> quite happy being up there on that pedestal instead of wallowing in the mud
> of the base animal instincts that drive men in their sexual interactions.
> We *VALUED* ourselves more than that. Our bodies used to be sacred and
> sacrosanct - beyond price - to be shared only with the one man we trusted to
> love us, be faithful to us, respect and protect us for the rest of our
> lives. A man, while sometimes, weakly, taking advantage of the local slut
> to scratch their itch, would never think of taking that slut as a wife - he
> wanted someone he could trust to love him, be faithful to him, respect and
> support him for the rest of his days.
>
> Women now are too stupid to understand Economics 101 - the law of supply and
> demand. What is in short supply, what is valued highly, is more in demand.
> Nobody is going to think more of you than you think of yourself - we all
> teach others how to treat us. Stop and think just a minute... would you buy
> a 2 liter of coke that has been drunk out of by 50 strangers with all their
> various germs and diseases, or would you rather have one that's been sealed
> for your protection and is to be consumed by only you? What is so hard to
> understand about this concept???!

Why do you hold women to a different standard than men? Or do you? The
way I see it, anyone and everyone should be free to do with their
bodies what they want - man, woman, transexual in transition.

>
> And women in the workplace... is there a glass ceiling? Yes, probably
> (although John Stossel now claims this is a myth). But, again, it's
> something we're doing to ourselves. Instead of negotiating for a salary
> that matches our skills, we accept a job at whatever salary we're offered,
> we work hard, and then we wait for our employers to recognize how talented
> we are and reward us for being good little girls. And when employers
> (obviously, to them, saving themselves some money) do not give us that raise
> we didn't ask for, we whine and complain that we're not being paid as much
> as the man at the next desk who had the balls to go and demand the salary he
> thinks he is worth (and men, having an overblown opinion of what they're
> worth, naturally are going to get a lot more).
>
> An employer is going to pay you what you demand to be paid if that's the
> best deal on the market, no matter what type of genitals you have between
> your legs. No successful businessman is going to put his prejudice before
> his bottom line. I've made *at least* twice as much as my husband,
> sometimes more, in the last 15 years of our 20 year marriage - even though
> he is more intelligent and better trained than I am. He just doesn't ask
> for what he's worth, and I do. Nobody who is not a friend or family member
> is going to just up and give you something from the goodness of their heart.
> The way the world works is, if you want something you have to ask for it -
> if it's something that you really want, you have to fight for it - if it's
> something precious to you, you have to be willing to die for it. Again, eat
> or be eaten.

To some extent, that is true. But the world and economy the way it is
today, if you demand more than they are willing to pay of if you seem
too much of a primadona they will happily suggest you find employment
elsewhere and hire two or three Chinese or Indian gradulates who are
willing to work for one third of the pay you demand. It used to be
companies would pay big bucks to recruit and retain experinced players.
Not any more - we have too much competition from abroad, and those
immigrants are kicking our sorry American asses.

Furthermore, discrimination is alive and well in the corporate world.
WASP men run Big Business and probably always will because they wash
each other's hands. Very few women can break into the good 'ole boy
network.


>
> The world is not nice, it's not fair, it's not all sweetness and light - it
> never was and it never will be. There will always be people who are taken
> advantage of and there will always be people who will take advantage. Some
> very nice, deserving people will be down-trodden, devalued, used and abused.
> Some people will starve to death while others will spend thousands of
> dollars to deal with their overweight. There wasn't a guarantee of
> satisfaction stuck in the afterbirth when I was born, so I learned from the
> start to take the universe exactly at face value and fight tooth and nail to
> survive. And if there is any fairness in life it's in knowing that, for the
> most part, the fit and the lucky will survive and the unfit and unlucky will
> die - work within those constraints and you'll be OK.

The fittest isn't always the smartest, best prepaered, most persistent,
best educated or the strongest. The "fittest" is the one who can adapt
the best.

-L.

cybercat
May 19th 06, 10:06 AM
"-L." > wrote
> I find it absolutley disgusting and abhorrent that we - supposedly one
> of the richest countries in the world - have people living on the
> streets in squalor, starving to death. Death of children under 5 is
> extremely high - 31 countries have better infant and child mortality
> rates than we do. Surely to god we can take better care of one another
> than we are currently doing.
>

This is what kills me. We send aid to everyone in the world--which
is fine--but damn. Why not look after the desperate folks at home
first? Children are not responsible for the sins or shortcomings of
their parents. Children are not "deadbeats" looking to get over.



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P No Gree G O
May 19th 06, 01:10 PM
I think I've found my twin!

:-)



CatNipped wrote:
> I wasn't going to post on this thread, arguing politics is never a good
> idea. But what the hell...
>
> Be aware that I'm making some *very* broad generalizations here in order to
> make points, and there are places where my tongue is stuck firmly in my
> cheek (I'll leave it to the reader to figure out where ;>).
>
> ==================
>
> I guess most people would describe me as a middle-of-the-roader (probably
> leaning a bit left), taking what I think are the best ideas from each party
> and discarding the crap. I think most Americans feel the same way, they
> just aren't as vocal as the extremists of both parties (and probably the
> reason why the middle-of-the-roaders - the "silent majority" - are silent is
> because when we speak up we get blasted from both sides! ;>).
>
> But the way I describe myself is as a "rational anarchist". I think
> government should consist of *ONLY* the infrastructure necessary to build
> bridges and wage war (at the behest of the people, not its own whims).
>
> It's a truism that people get exactly the government that they want. For
> the past half century the American people have wanted to suck at the teat of
> public weal. They wanted their welfare and food stamps and grants and
> subsidies - they wanted their government to care for them and feed them and
> protect them. Well folks, if you insist on behaving like cattle, don't
> bitch when they take your ass off to the slaughter house.
>
> It seems to me that the people who call for the "government" to take care of
> everybody are either those who have always been well off and haven't had to
> face the harsh realities of survival or those who want to use those programs
> for their own advantages. The universe doesn't owe anybody a living and
> doesn't "give" anything to those who won't fight for it - why should we?
> The lion will never lie down with the lamb no matter how much you wish on
> falling stars and rainbows and butterflies. It's a dog eat dog world and if
> you believe differently for even a second you may as well lie down and pour
> Alpo over your head!
>
> When I divorced my abusive, alcoholic first husband (back in the stone age)
> there were no "battered women's shelters" (I finally had to *seriously*
> attempt to run him down with a car and threaten to shoot his cowardly ass if
> he ever came around me again before he left me alone, left the state, and
> went crying home to Alabama to live with mommy and daddy). And there was no
> enforcement of child support (and I got no help from my family who,
> rightfully, told me I had to face the consequences of my former choices).
>
> I didn't qualify for welfare, or food stamps, or even legal aid because I
> wanted to *work* for my own money and go to college so I could eventually
> create a better life for myself and my two children. I made $8,000 *NET*
> income annually. I *really* didn't want one fourth to one third of that
> going to another woman living in government housing with 10 children from 10
> different fathers to pay for her to sit on her ass watching soap operas on
> her color TV while she and her welfare brats ate steak - while my children
> were living on peanut butter on stale bread for weeks at a time! If you
> have enough money to provide for your family and still have some to give
> away to those who aren't willing to work for themselves or their families,
> well bless you and more power to you - but don't take money out of the
> pockets of the working poor to do it!
>
> Think about base survival. If you were on an island with a stranger and had
> only one loaf of bread, would you share it? Well, maybe - especially if
> that other person is willing to help you survive in other ways. But if you
> were there with your child, would you still be willing to take that bread
> out of your child's mouth to share it with that stranger? I fought for and
> earned every bite of bread that went into my family's mouths - I *really*
> didn't want that bread taken away from my children and given to someone else
> who was too lazy to get up and earn it for themselves. I'm at a place in my
> life now where I have the luxury of being able to give to others, but I
> still want that to be voluntary and given to those I choose and at my own
> discretion.
>
> As far as the plight of women today - it's disgusting what we've done to
> ourselves in the past 50 years! The singer, "Pink", has it right when she
> says (paraphrasing from her song "Stupid Girls") where is our next woman
> president - she's on an MTV video, dancing half naked and shaking her tits
> next to "Fiddy Cent". She's allowing herself to be used as a three-hole cum
> receptacle, being slapped around, being called "bitch" and "ho", and coming
> back asking "Please sir may I have some more?"!!!
>
> Gloria Steinem was the biggest traitor to her sex to have ever lived (and
> made quite a tidy fortune from the fools who believed her **** about women
> needing to behave like men). I never wanted to be equal to men - I was
> quite happy being up there on that pedestal instead of wallowing in the mud
> of the base animal instincts that drive men in their sexual interactions.
> We *VALUED* ourselves more than that. Our bodies used to be sacred and
> sacrosanct - beyond price - to be shared only with the one man we trusted to
> love us, be faithful to us, respect and protect us for the rest of our
> lives. A man, while sometimes, weakly, taking advantage of the local slut
> to scratch their itch, would never think of taking that slut as a wife - he
> wanted someone he could trust to love him, be faithful to him, respect and
> support him for the rest of his days.
>
> Women now are too stupid to understand Economics 101 - the law of supply and
> demand. What is in short supply, what is valued highly, is more in demand.
> Nobody is going to think more of you than you think of yourself - we all
> teach others how to treat us. Stop and think just a minute... would you buy
> a 2 liter of coke that has been drunk out of by 50 strangers with all their
> various germs and diseases, or would you rather have one that's been sealed
> for your protection and is to be consumed by only you? What is so hard to
> understand about this concept???!
>
> And women in the workplace... is there a glass ceiling? Yes, probably
> (although John Stossel now claims this is a myth). But, again, it's
> something we're doing to ourselves. Instead of negotiating for a salary
> that matches our skills, we accept a job at whatever salary we're offered,
> we work hard, and then we wait for our employers to recognize how talented
> we are and reward us for being good little girls. And when employers
> (obviously, to them, saving themselves some money) do not give us that raise
> we didn't ask for, we whine and complain that we're not being paid as much
> as the man at the next desk who had the balls to go and demand the salary he
> thinks he is worth (and men, having an overblown opinion of what they're
> worth, naturally are going to get a lot more).
>
> An employer is going to pay you what you demand to be paid if that's the
> best deal on the market, no matter what type of genitals you have between
> your legs. No successful businessman is going to put his prejudice before
> his bottom line. I've made *at least* twice as much as my husband,
> sometimes more, in the last 15 years of our 20 year marriage - even though
> he is more intelligent and better trained than I am. He just doesn't ask
> for what he's worth, and I do. Nobody who is not a friend or family member
> is going to just up and give you something from the goodness of their heart.
> The way the world works is, if you want something you have to ask for it -
> if it's something that you really want, you have to fight for it - if it's
> something precious to you, you have to be willing to die for it. Again, eat
> or be eaten.
>
> The world is not nice, it's not fair, it's not all sweetness and light - it
> never was and it never will be. There will always be people who are taken
> advantage of and there will always be people who will take advantage. Some
> very nice, deserving people will be down-trodden, devalued, used and abused.
> Some people will starve to death while others will spend thousands of
> dollars to deal with their overweight. There wasn't a guarantee of
> satisfaction stuck in the afterbirth when I was born, so I learned from the
> start to take the universe exactly at face value and fight tooth and nail to
> survive. And if there is any fairness in life it's in knowing that, for the
> most part, the fit and the lucky will survive and the unfit and unlucky will
> die - work within those constraints and you'll be OK.
>
> OK, there's more than enough fodder above to tear apart and criticize, I
> even put up some very rickety strawmen - have fun kiddies. All arguments
> and counter views will be thoughtfully considered, all flames will be used
> to roast marshmallows! ;>
>

CatNipped
May 19th 06, 02:51 PM
"-L." > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> CatNipped wrote:
> <snip>
>
> I agree the people have recieved what they wanted - 51% of them. 49%
> of us are disgusted and terribly dissatisfied.

Yep, I'm one of the 49% who are disgusted and terribly dissatisfied. But
since I didn't canvas my neighborhood trying to persuade people to vote,
since I didn't create and get people to sign petitions, since I didn't
attend any political rallies, since I didn't participate in any phone
campaigns, since I rarely write my congressman or senator, I really feel
hypocritical bitching about the current administration (don't get me wrong,
I still bitch, I just feel hypocritical doing it! ;>). Actually, in this
last election, I don't think Kerry would have been any better for the
country - his rich ass doesn't know a thing about the working poor in
America today. He lied just as much, he was just as slimy. Who was it here
who said "I wish there were a choice to vote for 'none of the above'"?

>
>>
>> It seems to me that the people who call for the "government" to take care
>> of
>> everybody are either those who have always been well off and haven't had
>> to
>> face the harsh realities of survival or those who want to use those
>> programs
>> for their own advantages.
>
> I fall into neither category. I am a socialist in the true meaning of
> the word. I believe at my core we have a responsibility to take care
> of each other - morally, ethically, and religiously believe so. I was
> not born with a silver spoon in my mouth, rather, I was lucky to have
> any food at all in any spoon. I am self-made - worked for every penny
> I ever earned and retired at 36 in 1999. I have seen both sides of the
> tracks and I know how people suffer.

I *feel* the same way. I want everybody in the world to live in peace with
full bellies. I also want there to never be a kitten euthanized because of
lack of a home again. The problem is we have to deal with reality and can
only work *towards* that idealistic world (knowing that we're working
*against* the general principals of a universe that could give a crap how
many kittens die). Human nature being what it is, I think we'll have
thousands, if not millions more years of evolution before we'll get to the
place where we can put others' interest even on the same level as our own
(as a species, not as individuals - there will always be idealists and
altruists as well as tyrants and torturers). I'm doing my best to work
towards that world, but I know I won't see it happen in my lifetime.

>
> I find it absolutley disgusting and abhorrent that we - supposedly one
> of the richest countries in the world - have people living on the
> streets in squalor, starving to death. Death of children under 5 is
> extremely high - 31 countries have better infant and child mortality
> rates than we do. Surely to god we can take better care of one another
> than we are currently doing.

Yeah, me too. I just wrote a rant in rpca about how I think the response to
Katrina/Rita is the nation's biggest disgrace in history - and that goes for
its lack of response to our own children starving in the streets. There is
*NO* sane reason to be spending billions of dollars destroying someone
else's country when ours is in such need of repair.

>>The universe doesn't owe anybody a living and
>> doesn't "give" anything to those who won't fight for it - why should we?
>> The lion will never lie down with the lamb no matter how much you wish on
>> falling stars and rainbows and butterflies. It's a dog eat dog world and
>> if
>> you believe differently for even a second you may as well lie down and
>> pour
>> Alpo over your head!
>>
>> When I divorced my abusive, alcoholic first husband (back in the stone
>> age)
>> there were no "battered women's shelters" (I finally had to *seriously*
>> attempt to run him down with a car and threaten to shoot his cowardly ass
>> if
>> he ever came around me again before he left me alone, left the state, and
>> went crying home to Alabama to live with mommy and daddy). And there was
>> no
>> enforcement of child support (and I got no help from my family who,
>> rightfully, told me I had to face the consequences of my former choices).
>>
>> I didn't qualify for welfare, or food stamps, or even legal aid because I
>> wanted to *work* for my own money and go to college so I could eventually
>> create a better life for myself and my two children. I made $8,000 *NET*
>> income annually. I *really* didn't want one fourth to one third of that
>> going to another woman living in government housing with 10 children from
>> 10
>> different fathers to pay for her to sit on her ass watching soap operas
>> on
>> her color TV while she and her welfare brats ate steak - while my
>> children
>> were living on peanut butter on stale bread for weeks at a time! If you
>> have enough money to provide for your family and still have some to give
>> away to those who aren't willing to work for themselves or their
>> families,
>> well bless you and more power to you - but don't take money out of the
>> pockets of the working poor to do it!
>
> You do realize that the majority of welfare recipients are on welfare
> for less than 2 years and are people who have lost jobs and cannot find
> work?

What ever happened to "welfare reform"? Wasn't there supposed to be a
program that offered job training for welfare recipients who were on welfare
for some specified period? Does anyone remember the waves of protest that
suggestion generated? Where are all these illegal aliens finding jobs that
our own welfare recipients can't seem to find?

NOTE: this was one of my strawmen - I realize that illegal aliens are
working for minimum wage or below (which a family can *NOT* survive on) and
taking that back to a country with a much lower cost of living.

>>
>> Think about base survival. If you were on an island with a stranger and
>> had
>> only one loaf of bread, would you share it? Well, maybe - especially if
>> that other person is willing to help you survive in other ways. But if
>> you
>> were there with your child, would you still be willing to take that bread
>> out of your child's mouth to share it with that stranger? I fought for
>> and
>> earned every bite of bread that went into my family's mouths - I *really*
>> didn't want that bread taken away from my children and given to someone
>> else
>> who was too lazy to get up and earn it for themselves. I'm at a place in
>> my
>> life now where I have the luxury of being able to give to others, but I
>> still want that to be voluntary and given to those I choose and at my own
>> discretion.
>
> Some people have better resources than others. Some people have better
> skills than others. Some people simply are smarter than others. Just
> because you were able to survive and make your own way doesn't mean
> that everyone else can. Furthermore, you have inherent unearned
> privledges and advantages being Caucasian.

Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying - the universe isn't fair and
nobody can guarantee that it will be. There will *always* be those
"blessed" and those "cursed" - that's evolution in action! I'm not saying
that's how it should be, I fervently wish it didn't have to be, I'm just
saying that's the way it is. When we try to *unnaturally* enforce fairness
on the universe by making everyone equal (whether they really are equal or
not) we *FAIL* - we drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

I experienced this with my son's problems in public school (I couldn't
afford private school for him). Before he started school he was diagnosed
with ADHD (just like his mom) and as part of that testing they gave him an
IQ test. He scored 160 on the Weschler *ADULT* test (he could read by the
time he was 2.5 years old). By the fifth grade he had failed 3 times. The
teacher called me in and told me that his reading/grammar waswere at a
college senior level and his math/science skills were at a college junior
level - *BUT SHE WAS GOING TO FAIL HIM AGAIN"!!! Why? Because he couldn't
follow the lesson plans laid out to teach children *MUCH* less bright than
he was (*HE WAS F*CKING BORED, @$$HOLES!!!!*). I asked about special
classes for him - there were 8 different programs for slow learners or
children with learning disabilities, but not a single program for gifted
children (this was over 20 years ago in poverty-stricken St. Bernard Parish,
LA).

The law wouldn't allow me to take him out of school until he was 16, so he
just wasted all those years causing classroom disruption (he was *VERY*
creatively disruptive) and reading Voltaire while the rest of the children
read "run, Dick, run"!!! At 16 he took his GED (passed it at 100% without
doing *any* preparation) and went on to college - passed a two year college
program in 6 months then got bored with that! I despair when I think about
what he might have accomplished for the good of humanity if he had been
identified as gifted and trained to the best of his abilities. What have
all those learning disabled children, who were well provided for, done to
better our world?

>>
>> As far as the plight of women today - it's disgusting what we've done to
>> ourselves in the past 50 years! The singer, "Pink", has it right when
>> she
>> says (paraphrasing from her song "Stupid Girls") where is our next woman
>> president - she's on an MTV video, dancing half naked and shaking her
>> tits
>> next to "Fiddy Cent". She's allowing herself to be used as a three-hole
>> cum
>> receptacle, being slapped around, being called "bitch" and "ho", and
>> coming
>> back asking "Please sir may I have some more?"!!!
>
> That's her choice, as it should be.

Yes, and in doing so she is doing irreparable harm to the way society judges
women today - and is giving my granddaughters a horrible example of what a
woman should be. Please name 10 women in American society today that young
girls can look up to, admire, and strive to emulate - ones who could counter
that pop culture image of women.

>>
>> Gloria Steinem was the biggest traitor to her sex to have ever lived (and
>> made quite a tidy fortune from the fools who believed her **** about
>> women
>> needing to behave like men). I never wanted to be equal to men - I was
>> quite happy being up there on that pedestal instead of wallowing in the
>> mud
>> of the base animal instincts that drive men in their sexual interactions.
>> We *VALUED* ourselves more than that. Our bodies used to be sacred and
>> sacrosanct - beyond price - to be shared only with the one man we trusted
>> to
>> love us, be faithful to us, respect and protect us for the rest of our
>> lives. A man, while sometimes, weakly, taking advantage of the local
>> slut
>> to scratch their itch, would never think of taking that slut as a wife -
>> he
>> wanted someone he could trust to love him, be faithful to him, respect
>> and
>> support him for the rest of his days.
>>
>> Women now are too stupid to understand Economics 101 - the law of supply
>> and
>> demand. What is in short supply, what is valued highly, is more in
>> demand.
>> Nobody is going to think more of you than you think of yourself - we all
>> teach others how to treat us. Stop and think just a minute... would you
>> buy
>> a 2 liter of coke that has been drunk out of by 50 strangers with all
>> their
>> various germs and diseases, or would you rather have one that's been
>> sealed
>> for your protection and is to be consumed by only you? What is so hard
>> to
>> understand about this concept???!
>
> Why do you hold women to a different standard than men? Or do you? The
> way I see it, anyone and everyone should be free to do with their
> bodies what they want - man, woman, transexual in transition.

Because we *are* different. Different bodies, different hormones, different
brains, different emotions. Women evolved into the role of child bearer and
nurturer - when we start acting like men we are not only lowering our
standards and morals to theirs*, we are working against millions of years of
selection for the very traits we are trying to deny. *I don't fault men for
being the whores they are - they were evolved to have the drive to spread
their seed as widely as they possibly could. But women should know, and
trust to be there to protect her and her offspring, the father of her
children! [Oh, don't get me started on the Maury Povich show where a woman
kept coming back for DNA tests to try to find the fathers of her babies -
each time she screeched, "I *KNOW* he da daddy ob my baby", after the 7th
time it came back negative I quit watchin!]

>>
>> And women in the workplace... is there a glass ceiling? Yes, probably
>> (although John Stossel now claims this is a myth). But, again, it's
>> something we're doing to ourselves. Instead of negotiating for a salary
>> that matches our skills, we accept a job at whatever salary we're
>> offered,
>> we work hard, and then we wait for our employers to recognize how
>> talented
>> we are and reward us for being good little girls. And when employers
>> (obviously, to them, saving themselves some money) do not give us that
>> raise
>> we didn't ask for, we whine and complain that we're not being paid as
>> much
>> as the man at the next desk who had the balls to go and demand the salary
>> he
>> thinks he is worth (and men, having an overblown opinion of what they're
>> worth, naturally are going to get a lot more).
>>
>> An employer is going to pay you what you demand to be paid if that's the
>> best deal on the market, no matter what type of genitals you have between
>> your legs. No successful businessman is going to put his prejudice
>> before
>> his bottom line. I've made *at least* twice as much as my husband,
>> sometimes more, in the last 15 years of our 20 year marriage - even
>> though
>> he is more intelligent and better trained than I am. He just doesn't ask
>> for what he's worth, and I do. Nobody who is not a friend or family
>> member
>> is going to just up and give you something from the goodness of their
>> heart.
>> The way the world works is, if you want something you have to ask for
>> it -
>> if it's something that you really want, you have to fight for it - if
>> it's
>> something precious to you, you have to be willing to die for it. Again,
>> eat
>> or be eaten.
>
> To some extent, that is true. But the world and economy the way it is
> today, if you demand more than they are willing to pay of if you seem
> too much of a primadona they will happily suggest you find employment
> elsewhere and hire two or three Chinese or Indian gradulates who are
> willing to work for one third of the pay you demand. It used to be
> companies would pay big bucks to recruit and retain experinced players.
> Not any more - we have too much competition from abroad, and those
> immigrants are kicking our sorry American asses.

Tell me about it! I *USED * to make a six figure salary as a web
architect - until Indian and Chinese programmers started doing the work I do
for mere dollars a day. I had to learn to do a lot more for half the pay.
Again, I can't say, "Poor me, fix it now!", it's just the way of the world
and I had to dance fast in order to survive.

> Furthermore, discrimination is alive and well in the corporate world.
> WASP men run Big Business and probably always will because they wash
> each other's hands. Very few women can break into the good 'ole boy
> network.

If an employer has a choice between a woman who *REALLY* knows her ****, has
it together, and can give him an edge when it comes to his competition, are
you telling me that he will overlook her and hire instead a man who isn't as
nearly well trained? I don't think he will - I think big business in
American is alive and well and, again, a successful businessman will not put
his prejudice ahead of his bottom line. *GENERALLY*, when all else is
equal, yeah, men probably get hired a lot sooner at a lot higher salaries
(as I explained, partly our fault), I agree. Woman have to be twice as
smart, and work twice as hard as a man to get the same treatment -
fortunately that's extremely easy for most women to do!!! ;>

>>
>> The world is not nice, it's not fair, it's not all sweetness and light -
>> it
>> never was and it never will be. There will always be people who are
>> taken
>> advantage of and there will always be people who will take advantage.
>> Some
>> very nice, deserving people will be down-trodden, devalued, used and
>> abused.
>> Some people will starve to death while others will spend thousands of
>> dollars to deal with their overweight. There wasn't a guarantee of
>> satisfaction stuck in the afterbirth when I was born, so I learned from
>> the
>> start to take the universe exactly at face value and fight tooth and nail
>> to
>> survive. And if there is any fairness in life it's in knowing that, for
>> the
>> most part, the fit and the lucky will survive and the unfit and unlucky
>> will
>> die - work within those constraints and you'll be OK.
>
> The fittest isn't always the smartest, best prepaered, most persistent,
> best educated or the strongest. The "fittest" is the one who can adapt
> the best.

Ah, very, *VERY* true!

Thanks for the well-reasoned, thoughtful and cogent opinions you expressed -
you gave me a lot to think about!

Hugs,

CatNipped

>
> -L.
>

cybercat
May 19th 06, 04:03 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
> I think I've found my twin!
>
> :-)
>
>

Think again. It's takes a mighty pretty foot to fill those stilettos.



>
> CatNipped wrote:
> > I wasn't going to post on this thread, arguing politics is never a good
> > idea. But what the hell...
> >
> > Be aware that I'm making some *very* broad generalizations here in order
to
> > make points, and there are places where my tongue is stuck firmly in my
> > cheek (I'll leave it to the reader to figure out where ;>).
> >
> > ==================
> >
> > I guess most people would describe me as a middle-of-the-roader
(probably
> > leaning a bit left), taking what I think are the best ideas from each
party
> > and discarding the crap. I think most Americans feel the same way, they
> > just aren't as vocal as the extremists of both parties (and probably the
> > reason why the middle-of-the-roaders - the "silent majority" - are
silent is
> > because when we speak up we get blasted from both sides! ;>).
> >
> > But the way I describe myself is as a "rational anarchist". I think
> > government should consist of *ONLY* the infrastructure necessary to
build
> > bridges and wage war (at the behest of the people, not its own whims).
> >
> > It's a truism that people get exactly the government that they want.
For
> > the past half century the American people have wanted to suck at the
teat of
> > public weal. They wanted their welfare and food stamps and grants and
> > subsidies - they wanted their government to care for them and feed them
and
> > protect them. Well folks, if you insist on behaving like cattle, don't
> > bitch when they take your ass off to the slaughter house.
> >
> > It seems to me that the people who call for the "government" to take
care of
> > everybody are either those who have always been well off and haven't had
to
> > face the harsh realities of survival or those who want to use those
programs
> > for their own advantages. The universe doesn't owe anybody a living and
> > doesn't "give" anything to those who won't fight for it - why should we?
> > The lion will never lie down with the lamb no matter how much you wish
on
> > falling stars and rainbows and butterflies. It's a dog eat dog world
and if
> > you believe differently for even a second you may as well lie down and
pour
> > Alpo over your head!
> >
> > When I divorced my abusive, alcoholic first husband (back in the stone
age)
> > there were no "battered women's shelters" (I finally had to *seriously*
> > attempt to run him down with a car and threaten to shoot his cowardly
ass if
> > he ever came around me again before he left me alone, left the state,
and
> > went crying home to Alabama to live with mommy and daddy). And there
was no
> > enforcement of child support (and I got no help from my family who,
> > rightfully, told me I had to face the consequences of my former
choices).
> >
> > I didn't qualify for welfare, or food stamps, or even legal aid because
I
> > wanted to *work* for my own money and go to college so I could
eventually
> > create a better life for myself and my two children. I made $8,000
*NET*
> > income annually. I *really* didn't want one fourth to one third of that
> > going to another woman living in government housing with 10 children
from 10
> > different fathers to pay for her to sit on her ass watching soap operas
on
> > her color TV while she and her welfare brats ate steak - while my
children
> > were living on peanut butter on stale bread for weeks at a time! If you
> > have enough money to provide for your family and still have some to give
> > away to those who aren't willing to work for themselves or their
families,
> > well bless you and more power to you - but don't take money out of the
> > pockets of the working poor to do it!
> >
> > Think about base survival. If you were on an island with a stranger and
had
> > only one loaf of bread, would you share it? Well, maybe - especially if
> > that other person is willing to help you survive in other ways. But if
you
> > were there with your child, would you still be willing to take that
bread
> > out of your child's mouth to share it with that stranger? I fought for
and
> > earned every bite of bread that went into my family's mouths - I
*really*
> > didn't want that bread taken away from my children and given to someone
else
> > who was too lazy to get up and earn it for themselves. I'm at a place
in my
> > life now where I have the luxury of being able to give to others, but I
> > still want that to be voluntary and given to those I choose and at my
own
> > discretion.
> >
> > As far as the plight of women today - it's disgusting what we've done to
> > ourselves in the past 50 years! The singer, "Pink", has it right when
she
> > says (paraphrasing from her song "Stupid Girls") where is our next woman
> > president - she's on an MTV video, dancing half naked and shaking her
tits
> > next to "Fiddy Cent". She's allowing herself to be used as a three-hole
cum
> > receptacle, being slapped around, being called "bitch" and "ho", and
coming
> > back asking "Please sir may I have some more?"!!!
> >
> > Gloria Steinem was the biggest traitor to her sex to have ever lived
(and
> > made quite a tidy fortune from the fools who believed her **** about
women
> > needing to behave like men). I never wanted to be equal to men - I was
> > quite happy being up there on that pedestal instead of wallowing in the
mud
> > of the base animal instincts that drive men in their sexual
interactions.
> > We *VALUED* ourselves more than that. Our bodies used to be sacred and
> > sacrosanct - beyond price - to be shared only with the one man we
trusted to
> > love us, be faithful to us, respect and protect us for the rest of our
> > lives. A man, while sometimes, weakly, taking advantage of the local
slut
> > to scratch their itch, would never think of taking that slut as a wife -
he
> > wanted someone he could trust to love him, be faithful to him, respect
and
> > support him for the rest of his days.
> >
> > Women now are too stupid to understand Economics 101 - the law of supply
and
> > demand. What is in short supply, what is valued highly, is more in
demand.
> > Nobody is going to think more of you than you think of yourself - we all
> > teach others how to treat us. Stop and think just a minute... would you
buy
> > a 2 liter of coke that has been drunk out of by 50 strangers with all
their
> > various germs and diseases, or would you rather have one that's been
sealed
> > for your protection and is to be consumed by only you? What is so hard
to
> > understand about this concept???!
> >
> > And women in the workplace... is there a glass ceiling? Yes, probably
> > (although John Stossel now claims this is a myth). But, again, it's
> > something we're doing to ourselves. Instead of negotiating for a salary
> > that matches our skills, we accept a job at whatever salary we're
offered,
> > we work hard, and then we wait for our employers to recognize how
talented
> > we are and reward us for being good little girls. And when employers
> > (obviously, to them, saving themselves some money) do not give us that
raise
> > we didn't ask for, we whine and complain that we're not being paid as
much
> > as the man at the next desk who had the balls to go and demand the
salary he
> > thinks he is worth (and men, having an overblown opinion of what they're
> > worth, naturally are going to get a lot more).
> >
> > An employer is going to pay you what you demand to be paid if that's the
> > best deal on the market, no matter what type of genitals you have
between
> > your legs. No successful businessman is going to put his prejudice
before
> > his bottom line. I've made *at least* twice as much as my husband,
> > sometimes more, in the last 15 years of our 20 year marriage - even
though
> > he is more intelligent and better trained than I am. He just doesn't
ask
> > for what he's worth, and I do. Nobody who is not a friend or family
member
> > is going to just up and give you something from the goodness of their
heart.
> > The way the world works is, if you want something you have to ask for
it -
> > if it's something that you really want, you have to fight for it - if
it's
> > something precious to you, you have to be willing to die for it. Again,
eat
> > or be eaten.
> >
> > The world is not nice, it's not fair, it's not all sweetness and light -
it
> > never was and it never will be. There will always be people who are
taken
> > advantage of and there will always be people who will take advantage.
Some
> > very nice, deserving people will be down-trodden, devalued, used and
abused.
> > Some people will starve to death while others will spend thousands of
> > dollars to deal with their overweight. There wasn't a guarantee of
> > satisfaction stuck in the afterbirth when I was born, so I learned from
the
> > start to take the universe exactly at face value and fight tooth and
nail to
> > survive. And if there is any fairness in life it's in knowing that, for
the
> > most part, the fit and the lucky will survive and the unfit and unlucky
will
> > die - work within those constraints and you'll be OK.
> >
> > OK, there's more than enough fodder above to tear apart and criticize, I
> > even put up some very rickety strawmen - have fun kiddies. All
arguments
> > and counter views will be thoughtfully considered, all flames will be
used
> > to roast marshmallows! ;>
> >
>



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May 19th 06, 04:31 PM
"cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"-L." > wrote
>> I find it absolutley disgusting and abhorrent that we - supposedly one
>> of the richest countries in the world - have people living on the
>> streets in squalor, starving to death. Death of children under 5 is
>> extremely high - 31 countries have better infant and child mortality
>> rates than we do. Surely to god we can take better care of one another
>> than we are currently doing.
>>
>
>This is what kills me. We send aid to everyone in the world--which
>is fine--but damn. Why not look after the desperate folks at home
>first? Children are not responsible for the sins or shortcomings of
>their parents. Children are not "deadbeats" looking to get over.

Do you really think aid money would be used to solve America's
domestic health, child, and education problems if foreign aid was
suddenly stopped? Somehow I don't think it would with the anti social
program mentality the US has.

-mhd

P No Gree G O
May 19th 06, 04:45 PM
cybercat wrote:
> "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I think I've found my twin!
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>
>
>
> Think again. It's takes a mighty pretty foot to fill those stilettos.
>

How about size 7, medium width?

;-)

BulletProof
May 19th 06, 04:53 PM
CatNipped wrote:

> > I fall into neither category. I am a socialist in the true meaning of
> > the word. I believe at my core we have a responsibility to take care
> > of each other - morally, ethically, and religiously believe so. I was
> > not born with a silver spoon in my mouth, rather, I was lucky to have
> > any food at all in any spoon. I am self-made - worked for every penny
> > I ever earned and retired at 36 in 1999. I have seen both sides of the
> > tracks and I know how people suffer.

this is in reply to Lyn's remarks, here... Ill get to you in a min,
lol

If a man won't work he doesn't get to eat. (if he is able to work but
won't)
If a man CAN'T work! then I agree, he needs help
if a man CAN work, but needs help to GET or GET TO work, then he should
have some help.. or hitchhike or bum a ride whatever! I am no stranger
to any of it

When I was 19! I found myself with no car and no money and no formal
place of my own.
but I did have a place to live.. Temporarily. I hitchhiked 30mi, got a
good job and for 2 months...I did hitchhike back and forth to that job,
and we're talking highways and overpasses interstates etc...I didn't
give a crap what anybody thought, I was saving my money, I needed a
car... I carried an empty gas can and would you believe I caught a ride
EVERY time... there I am going down the interstate in my penguin outfit
/ black tie i mean. carrying a big ass red gas can.. I can't worry
about what somebody thinks of that
laugh scoff whatever.. I knew in my heart and conscience that I had
done all I knew to do...to do well for myself but there I was on the
side of the ****ing road.

It happens.

It's not just about education (you didn't say that i know.. im saying
it)
it's not just about education and the race being only for the swift

Sometimes a wife will walk in and find her husband in bed with another
man
and she doesn't want him anymore! you get no warning

and this destroys some financially.

Sooner or later in life, it happens to everyone, I don't care who you
are...
you come to intersections a time of disengagement..

and these times are never convenient...and it is acute

it's like were in a whirlwind, no warning!

you find a child that's on crack cocaine

and we in effect have no capacity to deal with it.
Whatever it is! it's real to that one, and it is bigger than we are.

Im 17 yrs old, Im working, i got a little job, a little car, a little
apt...
they come in on my job and call me to phone and break the news to me
about a tragedy in the family... a family member is in ICU and we don't
think
they are going to live... they lived! and it threw our family into this
whirlwind
for a solid year you don't know which way is up.. you say... but that's
not
reasonable... ah! but consider, you do what you have to do no matter
the price

and these things take a toll on a person... money, time, health,
emotion etc..
it costs us! when one suffers we all suffer.

You pay your childs way out of their problems.
a bad marriage, a drug addiction, and alcohol addiction

Thousands and thousands of dollars.

you weep when they weep and you cry when they cry
but you find yourself needing somebody bigger than you somebody
stronger than you that knows the way that you don't know... but there
is no-one. nobody to reach out to.
You are needing someone but other people need you more.
I know what that is.

and if someone thinks it can't happen to them, their wrong

I heard someone the other day, We live in a Jello world

trying to nail this thing called life down you may as well try nailing
Jello to the wall

the world is not stable, we live in a very unstable volatile world
always shifting forever changing... and the world will chew you up and
spit you out

you work! you don't play much, you don't do people dirty you increase
your odds
you don't strike hands with thieves and thugs, you keep the law, the
law is good
so long as we are abiding by it.. the law of the land is designed to
punish evil men

"For the path of the righteous is beset on aaalll sides by the
tyrannies of the wicked
and the selfishness of

evil men

Blessed is he who in the name of Charity SHEPERDS THE weak, through the
valley of darkness for he is TRULY his brothers keeper and finder of
lost children.."

lol... just kidding..
a little pulp fiction

in those days I talked about, I WELL qualified for some type of
assistance... but never took it.

We won't raised that way...

So! I work and work and save get a car get married go broke
get a job get married go broke, whew! what a ride!

Finally
I go into business for myself (that's the best time to do it when you
have nothing)

We should not penalize anyone who has gathered more than another
be it acorns or dollars...

we should not bite the hand that feeds us, the rich can employ us or
use our services...
HOWEVER it is wrong for the rich to oppress the poor

the RICH take us to court, the RICH devour land from widows...
this should be illegal

we need men and women that will stand up against corruption, but hey!
lets get real
you stand up you get shot! mafia took Kennedy out, they killed his
girlfriend as a warning
and all the press could say is that Marylyn was found in the nude.

money is too powerful, money is a motivator, money answers all things.

You won't win against greed, or power.

but like CN said, you do your personal best in hopes to leave a legacy
for our children's children

A man like Nomen for example, just and example I know nothing of him

He strives he's smart he works he is like the ant! he works during the
summer to save up against the winter. He does this year after year
after year...

why? so he can leave all he's ever worked his ass off for.. and when
he's gone some other man will spend it. Somebody else gets the money!

it's called vanity


> > I find it absolutley disgusting and abhorrent that we - supposedly one
> > of the richest countries in the world - have people living on the
> > streets in squalor, starving to death. Death of children under 5 is
> > extremely high - 31 countries have better infant and child mortality
> > rates than we do. Surely to god we can take better care of one another
> > than we are currently doing.

the folk who have the power to make a difference are scared to get near
those elements

I believe it's going to take many core groups to clean America up, not
the government.
Nucleus groups in each community that don't mind getting their hands
dirty..

the people have to want this, it's the only way it can happen.

> NOTE: this was one of my straw men - I realize that illegal aliens are
> working for minimum wage or below (which a family can *NOT* survive on) and
> taking that back to a country with a much lower cost of living.

that goes back to greed of some business owner who calls himself a good
american, but he is selling America one salary at a time.

Im not saying I have never hired a mexican, no.. but I did when I
couldnt' find someone willing to get the job done! In certain pockets
of the country, that's who is avail to work
so it's not really ALL on the business owner, he has to feed his
children

We need wall between México and America a big one! Un-scaleable

and harsh penalties for anyone smuggling someone in illegally. this is
also good for homeland security.. You can come to America so long as
you come through the front door. that's what it has come to.. will it
ever happen? I hope so!

I know our government is "working on that".. lol..

> Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying - the universe isn't fair and
> nobody can guarantee that it will be. There will *always* be those
> "blessed" and those "cursed" - that's evolution in action! I'm not saying
> that's how it should be, I fervently wish it didn't have to be, I'm just
> saying that's the way it is. When we try to *unnaturally* enforce fairness
> on the universe by making everyone equal (whether they really are equal or
> not) we *FAIL* - we drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

WOW! Catnipped... You got some powerful insight there. IMO

~
lol, yeah.. I agree...

you try to equal out the thief and you get his reward
-
I think the practical approach to a solution to help someone regardless
of who they are
rich man poor man beggar man thief, we are our brothers keeper...

I think programs are the solution here. and I don't have a problem with
every man giving proportionately to the agencies that distribute to the
poor.

In relieving the poor, I don't believe there is a gross lack of money,
so much as it is a lack of an effectual plan.

Too many abusers have proved! you can't just give the poor the money
and we damn sho ain't goin baby sit one another

"did you buy bread or beer asshole!" tell the dam truth! it ain't goin
happen like that.

and even with some benefits being dispersed in different states using a
debit card
oh hell! all you do then is supply the pen number and you still get
your crack cocaine

People buy food stamps for fiddy cent on the dollar.

where I live! it's the worse abuse I've ever seen..
omg

first of the month there's empty crack bags all up and down my street
most of the bags ain't even empty really.. but around the 4th or 5th..
the bags are gone, or someone has licked the corner clean

Woooooooooooooooooooo! they'll be smoking gravel, " it's crack it's
crack "


> The law wouldn't allow me to take him out of school until he was 16, so he

I"ve heard wonderful stories and know people who were home schooled
but that's right! somebody had to buy the beans, I hear ya


> > That's her choice, as it should be.
> Yes, and in doing so she is doing irreparable harm to the way society judges
> women today - and is giving my granddaughters a horrible example of what a
> woman should be. Please name 10 women in American society today that young
> girls can look up to, admire, and strive to emulate - ones who could counter
> that pop culture image of women.

Censorship is no more no less than what the people allow it to be, mob
rules
no, not everybody watches that sort of entertainment or burlesque, but
evidently this is what we want! else it would not be.

> > Why do you hold women to a different standard than men? Or do you? The
> > way I see it, anyone and everyone should be free to do with their
> > bodies what they want - man, woman, transsexual in transition.

let me answer that one CN...

just look back 400 years ago, 1,000 years ago..

what's that cigarette saying, "You've come a long way baby"

I blame all these hard headed women on Philip Morris
mhmnm

can't do nothing with them now
ah na, lol

just having fun, but consider this

when the men won't stand up and be men women are forced to fill that
role
just consider that

what women here would not really like to nest at home while the brawny
paper towel man brings home the bacon

aight then!

course we Diane has a thing for Mr Clean.

> Because we *are* different. Different bodies, different hormones, different
> brains, different emotions. Women evolved into the role of child bearer and
> nurturer - when we start acting like men we are not only lowering our
> standards and morals to theirs*, we are working against millions of yearsof
> selection for the very traits we are trying to deny. *I don't fault men for
> being the whores they are - they were evolved to have the drive to spread
> their seed as widely as they possibly could. But women should know, and
> trust to be there to protect her and her offspring, the father of her
> children! [Oh, don't get me started on the Maury Povich show where a woman
> kept coming back for DNA tests to try to find the fathers of her babies -
> each time she screeched, "I *KNOW* he da daddy ob my baby", after the 7th
> time it came back negative I quit watchin!]

well, we don't agree on our origin, but.. I still agree with you

but I personally blame the men...

You'ns are talking about the universe and providence and stuff like
that..
well I say, that Nature! hates a vacuum

and when men who by nature are more suited to Guide Guard and Gird the
family
lays drunk.. or goes out fornicating with another woman, then the woman
is forced to fill that void.

and before you say anything.. I don't believe there is anything that a
man can do that a woman cannot. I don't think men have traditionally
been the head of the house because they were bigger or smarter...(we
are not, and there is plenty plenty of exception)....
but my point is... when men fail to do what they were designed to do
(notice you won't get any men complain about that statement.. of course
I could NEVER say, "what women were designed to do).. then the vacant
spot has to be filled.

and this goes back to what Lyn was asking, why see men and women as
being different.
That's the prime reason. If everybody will do what they are better
fitted to do...
then as a society we will thrive.

Why would a woman want to stand on a exchange floor and shout among a
bunch of beer breathed hot dog eatin cavemen

If I was a woman, I'd rather be at home, teaching my children...
planting flowers...
making quilts, decorating, socializing, shopping, napping, doing
charitable work with specialized groups... and watching The Price is
Right.. COME ON DOWN!
Big bag of Fritos and the SHOWCASE SHOWDOWN

there is no shame in anything a woman chooses to do and it is her
choice
but I think CN is saying "why force nature"...


> Tell me about it! I *USED * to make a six figure salary as a web
> architect - until Indian and Chinese programmers started doing the work Ido
> for mere dollars a day. I had to learn to do a lot more for half the pay.
> Again, I can't say, "Poor me, fix it now!", it's just the way of the world
> and I had to dance fast in order to survive.

daaaamn


> > Furthermore, discrimination is alive and well in the corporate world.

I totally agree, but obviously one has to be careful with that
statement
Wouldn't want to give anyone and excuse to not go after what they
want.

it is true.. yes...
we are children
we know the way things are

the hierarchy is

Jewish Male
White Male
White Woman
Black Man
Black Woman

Here is excerpt from article I read, I think it's a quick and worthy
read

"Today, seven Jewish Americans run the vast majority of US television
networks, the printed press, the Hollywood movie industry, the book
publishing industry, and the recording industry. Most of these
industries are bundled into huge media conglomerates run by the
following seven individuals:
Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner
Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company
Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd
Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head
of Universal Studios
Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc
Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric
Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited
Those seven Jewish men collectively control ABC, NBC, CBS, the Turner
Broadcasting System, CNN, MTV, Universal Studios, MCA Records, Geffen
Records, DGC Records, GRP Records, Rising Tide Records, Curb/Universal
Records, and Interscope Records.

.... including Vogue, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Allure, GQ, and Self


http://www.rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm
or same as
http://tinyurl.com/726zf

cybercat
May 19th 06, 05:48 PM
> wrote in message
...
> "cybercat" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"-L." > wrote
> >> I find it absolutley disgusting and abhorrent that we - supposedly one
> >> of the richest countries in the world - have people living on the
> >> streets in squalor, starving to death. Death of children under 5 is
> >> extremely high - 31 countries have better infant and child mortality
> >> rates than we do. Surely to god we can take better care of one another
> >> than we are currently doing.
> >>
> >
> >This is what kills me. We send aid to everyone in the world--which
> >is fine--but damn. Why not look after the desperate folks at home
> >first? Children are not responsible for the sins or shortcomings of
> >their parents. Children are not "deadbeats" looking to get over.
>
> Do you really think aid money would be used to solve America's
> domestic health, child, and education problems if foreign aid was
> suddenly stopped? Somehow I don't think it would with the anti social
> program mentality the US has.
>

You are jumping to conclusions. I never said we should stop foreign
aid.



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CatNipped
May 19th 06, 06:06 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
ups.com...

> in those days I talked about, I WELL qualified for some type of
> assistance... but never took it.

I know a person in another newsgroup (actually several whose situations are
somewhat similar) who hasn't worked for ages. [I'm going to try to make
this as non-specific as possible and hope I can keep his/her anonymity.]

S/he is well qualified, has good skills, and recent training. S/he has
turned down several job offers because s/he wouldn't have been happy in that
job or it didn't pay well enough or s/he just kept putting off an interview
until the employer gave up. S/he is being supported by friends and family,
but is trying to get on disability (and I know several persons who are
already on disability for, to me, very lame reasons). What does s/he give
as the reason s/he should get disability benefits? S/he has Irritable Bowel
Syndrome and suffers from depression! And s/he will probably end up getting
it!!!

I have: 1) Fibromyalgia (I am in agonizing pain 24/7 - enough pain to wake
me up 3 to 4 times a night even though I take 2 Ambiens every night); 2)
Degenerative Disk Disease and Osteopenia (I have very little cushioning in
the disks in my spine and the disks themselves are breaking - when my back
goes out I literally can't move my body); 3) Repetitive Stress Injuries in
both wrists, my right elbow, and my right shoulder; 4) no cartilage in my
right knee from an old skating injury; 5) have had major bone reconstruction
surgery done on my left shoulder; 6) Osteoarthritis in all my joints; 7)
Hypothyroidism; 8) ADHD; and 9) Depressive Disorder.

Now, I qualified for disability benefits 8 diseases ago, but have I ever
applied for it? No. I drag my sorry ass out of bed every day and I go to
work at a job that pays me half what I'm worth and keeps me in pain by
having to use the RSI joints for 9 hours at a time. My husband also has
(among other things) Irritable Bowel Syndrome and works at a help desk job
that he hates that only allows him a 10 minute bathroom break every 2
hours!!! Why do we do this at our age? Because we want better lives for
ourselves and our children - we don't want to be given a hand-out, we want
to enjoy the results of our work.

But tell me why I should be happy about more than 1/3 of our salaries going
to support that person (and others like him/her) who is whining about not
finding a job that will make her/him happy, and weeping about the unfairness
of not being given disability benefits so s/he doesn't have to worry about
working for a living???!

Socialism sounds very nice, very idealistic, but is just doesn't work in the
real world (look at the reason for the bankruptcy/collapse of the USSR).
Karl Marx wanted to make people live "From each according to his ability, to
each according to his need." But, logically, why should I sweat and work
for the same lifestyle as the guy next door who is sitting home watching
TV - why can't I stay home and watch TV too and let someone else work? If
I'm *FORCED* to work while he stays home watching TV, you better believe
it's going to be a half-assed job if I can't see any benefit to me from it.

Idealism is counter-intuitive to evolution. You can't undo in one lifetime
what it took evolution millions of years to accomplish. You can raise a
baby lamb with a baby lion - and they may be nice to each other - until you
stop feeding the lion. The lion will then look over at the lamb and see not
his precious brother but lamb chops!

Bringing this back OB... My cats have never had to hunt their own prey in
their lives - they are the kittens of cats who never had to hunt their own
prey - they eat what I provide. One day they found a gecko who had made
it's way into my house. My cats hunted and "toyed" with that poor gecko
until it was in pieces when I finally found it and killed it humanely.
Where did they learn to do that? Instinct. Try and go against instinct and
you'll end up like that poor gecko.

Having said all that, would you believe I'm really am an idealist at
heart??! (It has always been the bane of my existence to so love an
interesting debate that I can argue either side.) But I am also realistic
enough to know how the universe works and to work within those parameters.

Hugs,

CatNipped

cybercat
May 19th 06, 06:06 PM
> wrote :
>
> Do you really think aid money would be used to solve America's
> domestic health, child, and education problems if foreign aid was
> suddenly stopped? Somehow I don't think it would with the anti social
> program mentality the US has.
>
> -mhd

And to answer your question, HELL no. It would be used for a war
with Iraq or to subsidize some of Bush's oil buddies, or to enable the
Pentagon to pay 300 frigging dollars for a screw.



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cybercat
May 19th 06, 06:07 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
> > "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>I think I've found my twin!
> >>
> >>:-)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Think again. It's takes a mighty pretty foot to fill those stilettos.
> >
>
> How about size 7, medium width?
>
> ;-)
>

Hey, that's my size! I admit, you have a lot of snap, but Catnipped is one
of my favorite people.



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BulletProof
May 19th 06, 06:09 PM
wrote:

> Do you really think aid money would be used to solve America's
> domestic health, child, and education problems if foreign aid was
> suddenly stopped? Somehow I don't think it would with the anti social
> program mentality the US has.
>
> -mhd

that's a good point... but it's not objective

lol

as I say, I don't suspect that money is the problem socially speaking

it's not

CatNipped
May 19th 06, 06:10 PM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...

> And to answer your question, HELL no. It would be used for a war
> with Iraq or to subsidize some of Bush's oil buddies, or to enable the
> Pentagon to pay 300 frigging dollars for a screw.

LOL. I often ask my husband (and other conspiracy theorists), "How the hell
do you think congress could keep [conspiracy] under wraps when they can't
even keep their own sex lives secret?"

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CatNipped
May 19th 06, 06:20 PM
"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> ...
>> cybercat wrote:
>> > "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> >>I think I've found my twin!
>> >>
>> >>:-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Think again. It's takes a mighty pretty foot to fill those stilettos.
>> >
>>
>> How about size 7, medium width?
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>
> Hey, that's my size! I admit, you have a lot of snap, but Catnipped is one
> of my favorite people.

Awwwwwwww! Right back 'atcha CC!

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>
>
>
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P No Gree G O
May 19th 06, 06:36 PM
cybercat wrote:
> "P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>cybercat wrote:
>>
>>>"P No Gree G O" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think I've found my twin!
>>>>
>>>>:-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Think again. It's takes a mighty pretty foot to fill those stilettos.
>>>
>>
>>How about size 7, medium width?
>>
>>;-)
>>
>
>
> Hey, that's my size! I admit, you have a lot of snap, but Catnipped is one
> of my favorite people.

Not trying to replace, just agreeing with!

BulletProof
May 19th 06, 06:42 PM
CatNipped wrote:

> S/he is well qualified, has good skills, and recent training. S/he has
> turned down several job offers because s/he wouldn't have been happy in that
> job or it didn't pay well enough or s/he just kept putting off an interview
> until the employer gave up. S/he is being supported by friends and family,
> but is trying to get on disability (and I know several persons who are
> already on disability for, to me, very lame reasons). What does s/he give
> as the reason s/he should get disability benefits? S/he has Irritable Bowel
> Syndrome and suffers from depression! And s/he will probably end up getting
> it!!!

70% of applicants get turned down upon application
they have to appeal it

being injured or disabled in a qualifying capacity is not a shoe in...
neccessarily..

thing is..

can I be honest here?

I think you should apply for disability and let that potential income
offset what you do not make by way of your choice to put yourself at
ease or comfort, because you should not have to suffer...

you should not have to suffer because you have paid into your own
social security
i know you know this.. i mean, It's your money... so it's not welfare
in spite of what anyone says...not in your case..

when they sent you a packet like I got.. just showing future benefit
charts..
it also shows the jobs you've had and the number of credits.

In your condition, I would! apply for disability

you also get free coffee at mcDonalds, see.. lol or something or is
that with getting old..

thing is.. disabled is just a word

but actually realizing money that you did contribute to soc sec...
that's just
"ok, im ready, gimmie some of my money back".. that's all that is..

disability does not mean you cannot work, it just means if your income
from working falls below the benefit amount then you get the difference
(up to the ben. amt.)

I personally think you should apply online today.

cause it damn sho aint' charity it ain't asking anybody for anything,
like you already know, it's your money. that's your money

but! I see your point with the h/she in the other room over there...
<pointing>

bless your heart! Im sorry you have to live with physical pain.

like I say, you would keep your job, but the idea is, if you are in too
much pain to work
and your income goes down.. it gets offset

if you don't have enough credits, then you would get ssi... or apply
for that too...
no harm...

I have a friend who is on it.. she tells me her activities.

CatNipped
May 19th 06, 06:54 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> CatNipped wrote:
>
>> S/he is well qualified, has good skills, and recent training. S/he has
>> turned down several job offers because s/he wouldn't have been happy in
>> that
>> job or it didn't pay well enough or s/he just kept putting off an
>> interview
>> until the employer gave up. S/he is being supported by friends and
>> family,
>> but is trying to get on disability (and I know several persons who are
>> already on disability for, to me, very lame reasons). What does s/he
>> give
>> as the reason s/he should get disability benefits? S/he has Irritable
>> Bowel
>> Syndrome and suffers from depression! And s/he will probably end up
>> getting
>> it!!!
>
> 70% of applicants get turned down upon application
> they have to appeal it
>
> being injured or disabled in a qualifying capacity is not a shoe in...
> neccessarily..
>
> thing is..
>
> can I be honest here?
>
> I think you should apply for disability and let that potential income
> offset what you do not make by way of your choice to put yourself at
> ease or comfort, because you should not have to suffer...

Because of several financial disasters, and then having to help our families
recover from Katrina, has wiped out our saving and put us over a hundred
thousand dollars in debt. We bought our home only 2 years ago (with a 30
year mortgage). We couldn't possibly afford to life off SSI or Disability!
but don't worry, I'm a tough old bird, I'll survive just fine - it takes
more than a little pain to keep me down! ;>

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CatNipped
May 19th 06, 06:58 PM
"CatNipped" > wrote in message
...
> "BulletProof" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>> CatNipped wrote:
>>
>>> S/he is well qualified, has good skills, and recent training. S/he has
>>> turned down several job offers because s/he wouldn't have been happy in
>>> that
>>> job or it didn't pay well enough or s/he just kept putting off an
>>> interview
>>> until the employer gave up. S/he is being supported by friends and
>>> family,
>>> but is trying to get on disability (and I know several persons who are
>>> already on disability for, to me, very lame reasons). What does s/he
>>> give
>>> as the reason s/he should get disability benefits? S/he has Irritable
>>> Bowel
>>> Syndrome and suffers from depression! And s/he will probably end up
>>> getting
>>> it!!!
>>
>> 70% of applicants get turned down upon application
>> they have to appeal it
>>
>> being injured or disabled in a qualifying capacity is not a shoe in...
>> neccessarily..
>>
>> thing is..
>>
>> can I be honest here?
>>
>> I think you should apply for disability and let that potential income
>> offset what you do not make by way of your choice to put yourself at
>> ease or comfort, because you should not have to suffer...
>
> Because of several financial disasters, and then having to help our
> families recover from Katrina, has wiped out our saving and put us over a
> hundred thousand dollars in debt. We bought our home only 2 years ago
> (with a 30 year mortgage). We couldn't possibly afford to life off SSI or
> Disability! but don't worry, I'm a tough old bird, I'll survive just
> fine - it takes more than a little pain to keep me down! ;>

Ack! The RSI is the cause of all the typos, I swear!! ;> Let's try that
again...

A series of financial disasters, and then having to help our families
recover from Katrina, wiped out all our savings (even 401K) and left us over
a hundred thousand dollars in debt. We bought our home only 2 years ago
(with a 30 year mortgage). We couldn't possibly afford to live off SSI or
Disability! But don't worry, I'm a tough old bird, I'll survive just fine -
it takes more than a little pain to keep me down! ;>

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>
> --
>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped
>
> See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/
>
>
>

May 19th 06, 07:22 PM
"cybercat" > wrote:

>> >This is what kills me. We send aid to everyone in the world--which
>> >is fine--but damn. Why not look after the desperate folks at home
>> >first? Children are not responsible for the sins or shortcomings of
>> >their parents. Children are not "deadbeats" looking to get over.
>>
>> Do you really think aid money would be used to solve America's
>> domestic health, child, and education problems if foreign aid was
>> suddenly stopped? Somehow I don't think it would with the anti social
>> program mentality the US has.
>>
>
>You are jumping to conclusions. I never said we should stop foreign
>aid.

I was merely commenting on that even if the money stayed home it would
not be used to solve domestic social problems. I know you didn't
advocate shutting off aid to other countries.

-mhd

BulletProof
May 19th 06, 09:05 PM
CatNipped wrote:

> Ack! The RSI is the cause of all the typos, I swear!! ;> Let's try that
> again...

ti's ufnny Cataipped, i rad thee secod psot nad tsill havn't sfeen nay
ytpos

CatNipped
May 19th 06, 09:10 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> CatNipped wrote:
>
>> Ack! The RSI is the cause of all the typos, I swear!! ;> Let's try
>> that
>> again...
>
> ti's ufnny Cataipped, i rad thee secod psot nad tsill havn't sfeen nay
> ytpos

LOL! God love you, Barry!

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BulletProof
May 19th 06, 09:13 PM
P No Gree G O wrote:

> How about size 7, medium width?
>
> ;-)

ya but then you found out an 8 felt so good you probably bought a 9

ol flat-foot

hammer toes

i wouldn't marry a woman with gnarly toes

whew

hermaaaaaaaadifites under the toenails..who knows

CatNipped
May 19th 06, 09:20 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> P No Gree G O wrote:
>
>> How about size 7, medium width?
>>
>> ;-)
>
> ya but then you found out an 8 felt so good you probably bought a 9
>
> ol flat-foot
>
> hammer toes
>
> i wouldn't marry a woman with gnarly toes
>
> whew
>
> hermaaaaaaaadifites under the toenails..who knows

Aren't those the grossest commercials you've ever seen in your life (and I
thought the remedies for "feminine itching" commercials were icky!)???!

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BulletProof
May 19th 06, 09:23 PM
P No Gree G O wrote:
> Not trying to replace, just agreeing with!

just kidding with ya

case you was fixin to flame me

hope this don't pass your flame post at me in the pipes

P No Gree G O
May 19th 06, 09:25 PM
BulletProof wrote:
> P No Gree G O wrote:
>
>>Not trying to replace, just agreeing with!
>
>
> just kidding with ya

:-)

>
> case you was fixin to flame me
>
> hope this don't pass your flame post at me in the pipes
>

I don't believe in flaming. I believe in killfiles!

BulletProof
May 19th 06, 10:08 PM
P No Gree G O wrote:

> I don't believe in flaming. I believe in killfiles!

cause I said you had hammer toes?

stick around...lol

yule be in here by yourself

What kind of cats do you have

I have 2 of them.

One is a 7 yr old tabby... I adopted her sorta.. form a lady who's
husband became allergic to the cat.. I've had Lucy now for about, 4
months maybe...
and it has taken all this time.. for her to even let me pick her up...
she sleeps at the foot of my bed now, most of the time.. sometimes she
likes to stretch out on the sofa

then there is Jupiter, she's all black... she's about 6 months old now.

I keep them indoors, but recently I've been taking them outside to mill
in the grass

Lucy always takes so long to get her courage up... she wants to.. but
there's so much fear in her eyes...

Lucy had her leg broke once and her slaves had steel pins and rods put
in to set it...
that was about 2 years ago. So Im thinking maybe she's still very
protective of herself, not to mention, the previous slaves had her
since she was a kitten. but she's all heart.

cybercat
May 19th 06, 11:17 PM
wrote:
>
> I was merely commenting on that even if the money stayed home it would
> not be used to solve domestic social problems. I know you didn't
> advocate shutting off aid to other countries.
>

I realized that later. That is what I get for reading with one eye and
half my brain and posting with both hands. ;)



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-L.
May 20th 06, 01:10 AM
CatNipped wrote:
> "-L." > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > CatNipped wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > I agree the people have recieved what they wanted - 51% of them. 49%
> > of us are disgusted and terribly dissatisfied.
>
> Yep, I'm one of the 49% who are disgusted and terribly dissatisfied. But
> since I didn't canvas my neighborhood trying to persuade people to vote,
> since I didn't create and get people to sign petitions, since I didn't
> attend any political rallies, since I didn't participate in any phone
> campaigns, since I rarely write my congressman or senator, I really feel
> hypocritical bitching about the current administration (don't get me wrong,
> I still bitch, I just feel hypocritical doing it! ;>). Actually, in this
> last election, I don't think Kerry would have been any better for the
> country - his rich ass doesn't know a thing about the working poor in
> America today. He lied just as much, he was just as slimy. Who was it here
> who said "I wish there were a choice to vote for 'none of the above'"?
>
> >
> >>
> >> It seems to me that the people who call for the "government" to take care
> >> of
> >> everybody are either those who have always been well off and haven't had
> >> to
> >> face the harsh realities of survival or those who want to use those
> >> programs
> >> for their own advantages.
> >
> > I fall into neither category. I am a socialist in the true meaning of
> > the word. I believe at my core we have a responsibility to take care
> > of each other - morally, ethically, and religiously believe so. I was
> > not born with a silver spoon in my mouth, rather, I was lucky to have
> > any food at all in any spoon. I am self-made - worked for every penny
> > I ever earned and retired at 36 in 1999. I have seen both sides of the
> > tracks and I know how people suffer.
>
> I *feel* the same way. I want everybody in the world to live in peace with
> full bellies. I also want there to never be a kitten euthanized because of
> lack of a home again. The problem is we have to deal with reality and can
> only work *towards* that idealistic world (knowing that we're working
> *against* the general principals of a universe that could give a crap how
> many kittens die). Human nature being what it is, I think we'll have
> thousands, if not millions more years of evolution before we'll get to the
> place where we can put others' interest even on the same level as our own
> (as a species, not as individuals - there will always be idealists and
> altruists as well as tyrants and torturers). I'm doing my best to work
> towards that world, but I know I won't see it happen in my lifetime.
>
> >
> > I find it absolutley disgusting and abhorrent that we - supposedly one
> > of the richest countries in the world - have people living on the
> > streets in squalor, starving to death. Death of children under 5 is
> > extremely high - 31 countries have better infant and child mortality
> > rates than we do. Surely to god we can take better care of one another
> > than we are currently doing.
>
> Yeah, me too. I just wrote a rant in rpca about how I think the response to
> Katrina/Rita is the nation's biggest disgrace in history - and that goes for
> its lack of response to our own children starving in the streets. There is
> *NO* sane reason to be spending billions of dollars destroying someone
> else's country when ours is in such need of repair.
>
> >>The universe doesn't owe anybody a living and
> >> doesn't "give" anything to those who won't fight for it - why should we?
> >> The lion will never lie down with the lamb no matter how much you wish on
> >> falling stars and rainbows and butterflies. It's a dog eat dog world and
> >> if
> >> you believe differently for even a second you may as well lie down and
> >> pour
> >> Alpo over your head!
> >>
> >> When I divorced my abusive, alcoholic first husband (back in the stone
> >> age)
> >> there were no "battered women's shelters" (I finally had to *seriously*
> >> attempt to run him down with a car and threaten to shoot his cowardly ass
> >> if
> >> he ever came around me again before he left me alone, left the state, and
> >> went crying home to Alabama to live with mommy and daddy). And there was
> >> no
> >> enforcement of child support (and I got no help from my family who,
> >> rightfully, told me I had to face the consequences of my former choices).
> >>
> >> I didn't qualify for welfare, or food stamps, or even legal aid because I
> >> wanted to *work* for my own money and go to college so I could eventually
> >> create a better life for myself and my two children. I made $8,000 *NET*
> >> income annually. I *really* didn't want one fourth to one third of that
> >> going to another woman living in government housing with 10 children from
> >> 10
> >> different fathers to pay for her to sit on her ass watching soap operas
> >> on
> >> her color TV while she and her welfare brats ate steak - while my
> >> children
> >> were living on peanut butter on stale bread for weeks at a time! If you
> >> have enough money to provide for your family and still have some to give
> >> away to those who aren't willing to work for themselves or their
> >> families,
> >> well bless you and more power to you - but don't take money out of the
> >> pockets of the working poor to do it!
> >
> > You do realize that the majority of welfare recipients are on welfare
> > for less than 2 years and are people who have lost jobs and cannot find
> > work?
>
> What ever happened to "welfare reform"? Wasn't there supposed to be a
> program that offered job training for welfare recipients who were on welfare
> for some specified period? Does anyone remember the waves of protest that
> suggestion generated? Where are all these illegal aliens finding jobs that
> our own welfare recipients can't seem to find?
>
> NOTE: this was one of my strawmen - I realize that illegal aliens are
> working for minimum wage or below (which a family can *NOT* survive on) and
> taking that back to a country with a much lower cost of living.
>
> >>
> >> Think about base survival. If you were on an island with a stranger and
> >> had
> >> only one loaf of bread, would you share it? Well, maybe - especially if
> >> that other person is willing to help you survive in other ways. But if
> >> you
> >> were there with your child, would you still be willing to take that bread
> >> out of your child's mouth to share it with that stranger? I fought for
> >> and
> >> earned every bite of bread that went into my family's mouths - I *really*
> >> didn't want that bread taken away from my children and given to someone
> >> else
> >> who was too lazy to get up and earn it for themselves. I'm at a place in
> >> my
> >> life now where I have the luxury of being able to give to others, but I
> >> still want that to be voluntary and given to those I choose and at my own
> >> discretion.
> >
> > Some people have better resources than others. Some people have better
> > skills than others. Some people simply are smarter than others. Just
> > because you were able to survive and make your own way doesn't mean
> > that everyone else can. Furthermore, you have inherent unearned
> > privledges and advantages being Caucasian.
>
> Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying - the universe isn't fair and
> nobody can guarantee that it will be. There will *always* be those
> "blessed" and those "cursed" - that's evolution in action! I'm not saying
> that's how it should be, I fervently wish it didn't have to be, I'm just
> saying that's the way it is. When we try to *unnaturally* enforce fairness
> on the universe by making everyone equal (whether they really are equal or
> not) we *FAIL* - we drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
>
> I experienced this with my son's problems in public school (I couldn't
> afford private school for him). Before he started school he was diagnosed
> with ADHD (just like his mom) and as part of that testing they gave him an
> IQ test. He scored 160 on the Weschler *ADULT* test (he could read by the
> time he was 2.5 years old). By the fifth grade he had failed 3 times. The
> teacher called me in and told me that his reading/grammar waswere at a
> college senior level and his math/science skills were at a college junior
> level - *BUT SHE WAS GOING TO FAIL HIM AGAIN"!!! Why? Because he couldn't
> follow the lesson plans laid out to teach children *MUCH* less bright than
> he was (*HE WAS F*CKING BORED, @$$HOLES!!!!*). I asked about special
> classes for him - there were 8 different programs for slow learners or
> children with learning disabilities, but not a single program for gifted
> children (this was over 20 years ago in poverty-stricken St. Bernard Parish,
> LA).
>
> The law wouldn't allow me to take him out of school until he was 16, so he
> just wasted all those years causing classroom disruption (he was *VERY*
> creatively disruptive) and reading Voltaire while the rest of the children
> read "run, Dick, run"!!! At 16 he took his GED (passed it at 100% without
> doing *any* preparation) and went on to college - passed a two year college
> program in 6 months then got bored with that! I despair when I think about
> what he might have accomplished for the good of humanity if he had been
> identified as gifted and trained to the best of his abilities. What have
> all those learning disabled children, who were well provided for, done to
> better our world?
<snip>

> >
> > That's her choice, as it should be.
>
> Yes, and in doing so she is doing irreparable harm to the way society judges
> women today - and is giving my granddaughters a horrible example of what a
> woman should be. Please name 10 women in American society today that young
> girls can look up to, admire, and strive to emulate - ones who could counter
> that pop culture image of women.

I think it's the parents' place to counter pop culture. There are a
ton of musicians who do good in the world, for example. Sheryl Crow,
and Shawn Colvin are two females who come to mind, right off the top of
my head. Have your DGDs been exposed to their music? One of my best
friends raised a daughter who is now 22 (?) all by herself, and M, the
daughter never bought into any of the then current "pop slop" and
"slutty clothing" trends that were being thrown her way. Why? Because
her Mom gave her alternatives and explained why she thought they were a
better choice - and let her make her own decisions - and suffer the
consequences. M is one of the most independent free-thinkers I have
ever met - is a women's rights activist is starting her graduate degree
in Women's Studies next fall.


>
<snip>

> >
> > Why do you hold women to a different standard than men? Or do you? The
> > way I see it, anyone and everyone should be free to do with their
> > bodies what they want - man, woman, transexual in transition.
>
> Because we *are* different. Different bodies, different hormones, different
> brains, different emotions. Women evolved into the role of child bearer and
> nurturer - when we start acting like men we are not only lowering our
> standards and morals to theirs*, we are working against millions of years of
> selection for the very traits we are trying to deny. *I don't fault men for
> being the whores they are - they were evolved to have the drive to spread
> their seed as widely as they possibly could. But women should know, and
> trust to be there to protect her and her offspring, the father of her
> children!

I think we have gone beyond basic instinctual drives for reproduction -
we are an evolved (devolved?) species now. Honestly, I think humans
are serial monogamists, for the most part. Look at the divorce rate -
and remarriage rate. Look at how many people - young and old - go
through extended monogamous relationships for 1, 2, 5, 10 years, and
then break up and eventually go on to another one. I think *serial
monogamy* is the natural state of humans now. And from an evolutionary
standpoint, it makes sense - as a female - reproduce with more males,
and your chance of having a child succeed is better.


> [Oh, don't get me started on the Maury Povich show where a woman
> kept coming back for DNA tests to try to find the fathers of her babies -
> each time she screeched, "I *KNOW* he da daddy ob my baby", after the 7th
> time it came back negative I quit watchin!]

You know that's staged, don't you...?

<snip>

> > To some extent, that is true. But the world and economy the way it is
> > today, if you demand more than they are willing to pay of if you seem
> > too much of a primadona they will happily suggest you find employment
> > elsewhere and hire two or three Chinese or Indian gradulates who are
> > willing to work for one third of the pay you demand. It used to be
> > companies would pay big bucks to recruit and retain experinced players.
> > Not any more - we have too much competition from abroad, and those
> > immigrants are kicking our sorry American asses.
>
> Tell me about it! I *USED * to make a six figure salary as a web
> architect - until Indian and Chinese programmers started doing the work I do
> for mere dollars a day. I had to learn to do a lot more for half the pay.
> Again, I can't say, "Poor me, fix it now!", it's just the way of the world
> and I had to dance fast in order to survive.

A lot of high-tech jobs are being outsourced to China and India. For
one reason it cost very little to do business in either country.

>
> > Furthermore, discrimination is alive and well in the corporate world.
> > WASP men run Big Business and probably always will because they wash
> > each other's hands. Very few women can break into the good 'ole boy
> > network.
>
> If an employer has a choice between a woman who *REALLY* knows her ****, has
> it together, and can give him an edge when it comes to his competition, are
> you telling me that he will overlook her and hire instead a man who isn't as
> nearly well trained?

No, but what I am saying is when it comes to promotions and two
candidates are equally qualified, the man will get the job. Not to
mention discrepancies in pay between men and women. look at how many
women are in CE-whatever positions in large companies - not many. And
even if they get VP positions, they are likely to lose the "P" position
to a male.

Gotta run - I will respond to the rest later...
-L.

CatNipped
May 20th 06, 04:38 AM
"-L." > wrote in message
ups.com...

<snip>
> I think it's the parents' place to counter pop culture. There are a
> ton of musicians who do good in the world, for example. Sheryl Crow,
> and Shawn Colvin are two females who come to mind, right off the top of
> my head. Have your DGDs been exposed to their music? One of my best
> friends raised a daughter who is now 22 (?) all by herself, and M, the
> daughter never bought into any of the then current "pop slop" and
> "slutty clothing" trends that were being thrown her way. Why? Because
> her Mom gave her alternatives and explained why she thought they were a
> better choice - and let her make her own decisions - and suffer the
> consequences. M is one of the most independent free-thinkers I have
> ever met - is a women's rights activist is starting her graduate degree
> in Women's Studies next fall.

You're right, it is the parents' place to counter pop culture - and if all
parents were as good at parenting as my daughter and her husband I wouldn't
worry about us as a nation at all. Unfortunately, they are in a very small
minority. [Have I mentioned lately how proud I am of how they rolled up
their sleeves and started rebuilding their home and their lives with their
own two hands without waiting around for anyone else to get them out of
their (Katrina-caused) disastrous situation? ;> They are setting a
*FANTASTIC* example for their daughters!]

Even for girls who have excellent parents, but *especially* for girls who
don't, an intermediately aged "heroine" is important for them to look up to
and emulate, especially when they are in the rebellion stage of childhood (a
very necessary part of the separation process in reaching adulthood). And
we really have no smart, independent, successful, female heroines that fit
that bill - why???! We see a lot of women getting rich by using their
bodies as sex objects, where are the women who are getting rich by using
their minds??? Why have we bought into this "bitch" and "ho" pop culture
bull****?! Why have we allowed ourselves and our daughters to devalue and
debase themselves like this? When the *HELL* did giving blowjobs become no
more important than giving than a goodnight kiss to teenager girlss????!!!!!

> <snip>
>
>> >
>> > Why do you hold women to a different standard than men? Or do you? The
>> > way I see it, anyone and everyone should be free to do with their
>> > bodies what they want - man, woman, transexual in transition.
>>
>> Because we *are* different. Different bodies, different hormones,
>> different
>> brains, different emotions. Women evolved into the role of child bearer
>> and
>> nurturer - when we start acting like men we are not only lowering our
>> standards and morals to theirs*, we are working against millions of years
>> of
>> selection for the very traits we are trying to deny. *I don't fault men
>> for
>> being the whores they are - they were evolved to have the drive to spread
>> their seed as widely as they possibly could. But women should know, and
>> trust to be there to protect her and her offspring, the father of her
>> children!
>
> I think we have gone beyond basic instinctual drives for reproduction -
> we are an evolved (devolved?) species now.

Even with "consciousness" being the latest skill in our evolutionary
arsenal, I still don't think we can undo in a few generations what nature
built over millions of years. I think we need to fully understand the way
the universe works and work within those parameters. The following is an
excerpt from David Gerrold's book "A Matter For Men" that explains better
what I'm trying to say (and please excuse how it's worded, this is not a
flame aimed at you, it's simply some dialogue plucked from the book).

"'The universe doesn't care [what we like]. God doesn't take public opinion
polls. The fact is what you like, what I like, what anyone likes - it's all
irrelevant.'....'One of the basic fallacies of sophomoric
intelligence.....is moral self-righteousness. Merely being able to perceive
the difference between right and wrong does not make you a moral person; it
only gives you some guildlines in which to operate.'.....'Now, here's the
bad news. Most of the time those guidelines are irrelevant - because the
pictures we hold in our heads about the way things *should* be usually have
very little relation to the way things actually *are*. And holding the
position that things should be some way other than what they are will only
keep you stuck. You'll spend so much time arguing with the physical
universe that you won't produce any result at all.'"

What I'm trying to say is that we first have to acknowledge how the universe
works - hugely indifferent to human wants or needs - and then work around
those "rules" to change things the little that we might be able to in order
to make our world more the way we would like it to be. It will still be an
artificial construct that is going against the true nature of the universe,
but by acknowledging that we might be able to keep it up long enough for it
to become second nature to us as a species. It's a lot easier to change the
system from within than it is to change it by standing outside the door
holding up protest signs. The more time we spend railing against the
injustice of it all, the less time we spend working to make a difference to
those who are being treated unjustly.

> Honestly, I think humans
> are serial monogamists, for the most part. Look at the divorce rate -
> and remarriage rate. Look at how many people - young and old - go
> through extended monogamous relationships for 1, 2, 5, 10 years, and
> then break up and eventually go on to another one. I think *serial
> monogamy* is the natural state of humans now. And from an evolutionary
> standpoint, it makes sense - as a female - reproduce with more males,
> and your chance of having a child succeed is better.

Well, yes and no. When these instincts were first being hard-wired into us
as instinct by the process of selection, we only lived 15 to 20 years, so
10 years *was* "till death do us part"! ;> And reproducing with more males
is *not* a successful strategy from an evolutionary standpoint. We need the
male to see that this is *his* seed being carried forward into the future,
we need to give him reason to protect and provide for us and our children so
that he knows that *he* will have immortality. If he suspects that it is
another's seed being germinated, he has no "stake" in the process and, in
caveman times might kill the child and mother, and in modern times not
provide child support (or, sadly, even today, kill the child and mother).

>> [Oh, don't get me started on the Maury Povich show where a woman
>> kept coming back for DNA tests to try to find the fathers of her babies -
>> each time she screeched, "I *KNOW* he da daddy ob my baby", after the 7th
>> time it came back negative I quit watchin!]
>
> You know that's staged, don't you...?

Of course, but you must also admit that this does occur in "real life" -
I've seen it happening too many times in too many situations. We have a DNA
testing facility in our suburban neighborhood!!!!

> <snip>
>
>> > To some extent, that is true. But the world and economy the way it is
>> > today, if you demand more than they are willing to pay of if you seem
>> > too much of a primadona they will happily suggest you find employment
>> > elsewhere and hire two or three Chinese or Indian gradulates who are
>> > willing to work for one third of the pay you demand. It used to be
>> > companies would pay big bucks to recruit and retain experinced players.
>> > Not any more - we have too much competition from abroad, and those
>> > immigrants are kicking our sorry American asses.
>>
>> Tell me about it! I *USED * to make a six figure salary as a web
>> architect - until Indian and Chinese programmers started doing the work I
>> do
>> for mere dollars a day. I had to learn to do a lot more for half the
>> pay.
>> Again, I can't say, "Poor me, fix it now!", it's just the way of the
>> world
>> and I had to dance fast in order to survive.
>
> A lot of high-tech jobs are being outsourced to China and India. For
> one reason it cost very little to do business in either country.

Yeah, tell me about it! In my line of work you don't need to be in the same
building, the same city, or even the same country in order to do the work -
so "outsourcing" to other countries with cheap labor has about killed my
profession in the US.

>> > Furthermore, discrimination is alive and well in the corporate world.
>> > WASP men run Big Business and probably always will because they wash
>> > each other's hands. Very few women can break into the good 'ole boy
>> > network.
>>
>> If an employer has a choice between a woman who *REALLY* knows her ****,
>> has
>> it together, and can give him an edge when it comes to his competition,
>> are
>> you telling me that he will overlook her and hire instead a man who isn't
>> as
>> nearly well trained?
>
> No, but what I am saying is when it comes to promotions and two
> candidates are equally qualified, the man will get the job. Not to
> mention discrepancies in pay between men and women. look at how many
> women are in CE-whatever positions in large companies - not many. And
> even if they get VP positions, they are likely to lose the "P" position
> to a male.

OK, I've got to give you this one, the statistics don't lie. But I still
have to say that I think we have played a role in our own handicapping by
not being as assertive as men and not valuing *ourselves* as much (granted,
we have not been reared to be, but that's a whole 'nother subject). Instead
of *telling* an employer how much good we've done for the company and how
much we deserve a raise, we sit back and wait for our employer to notice and
reward us without being asked - and that's just not going to happen in the
real world. If I can get away with paying a superior worker less than she
is worth and put the difference in my own pocket, then of course I'm going
to do so!

> Gotta run - I will respond to the rest later...
> -L.

I look forward to it. This is an interesting discussion and you've provided
a lot of thought-provoking arguments!


--

Hugs,

CatNipped

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-L.
May 20th 06, 06:15 AM
-L. wrote:

Ok, I'm back to finish what I started earlier.

Just another comment on how pop culture affects kids....I blame the
media to some extent. they choose what to cover and what not to
cvover. they could be spotlighting up-and-coming young surgeons,
lawyers, poets and writers, people doing things to help other people,
etc. - instead they choose to cover musicians, actors and professional
sports. Some say they are responding to what the audience wants. I
disagree. I think the media leads the way - especially when it somes
to swaying young minds. Study after study proves the biggest influence
on kids are their peers - with media a close second. If they get one
group of kids interested in things construtive, the movement will grow.


Also, parents of young women are not the only ones struggling with role
models in the media. As a parent of an African American male, I have
in some ways, one of the worst media images to combat - that of the
black male theif, thug and gang member. I am lucky in that my son has
an educated, successful, professional African American for a father, as
well as a ton of relatives who are good role models.

> Woman have to be twice as
> smart, and work twice as hard as a man to get the same treatment -
> fortunately that's extremely easy for most women to do!!! ;>

LOL...and unfortunately that's true for all minorities.

<snip>

> > The fittest isn't always the smartest, best prepaered, most persistent,
> > best educated or the strongest. The "fittest" is the one who can adapt
> > the best.
>
> Ah, very, *VERY* true!
>
> Thanks for the well-reasoned, thoughtful and cogent opinions you expressed -
> you gave me a lot to think about!

Ditto here. I have a lot of passion about our future and I really hate
the path this country is going down, in a number of ways. I do what I
can on a grass-roots level, but a lot of the time I feel I am just
spinning my wheels...

-L.

CatNipped
May 20th 06, 02:43 PM
"-L." > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> -L. wrote:
>
> Ok, I'm back to finish what I started earlier.
>
> Just another comment on how pop culture affects kids....I blame the
> media to some extent. they choose what to cover and what not to
> cvover. they could be spotlighting up-and-coming young surgeons,
> lawyers, poets and writers, people doing things to help other people,
> etc. - instead they choose to cover musicians, actors and professional
> sports. Some say they are responding to what the audience wants. I
> disagree. I think the media leads the way - especially when it somes
> to swaying young minds. Study after study proves the biggest influence
> on kids are their peers - with media a close second. If they get one
> group of kids interested in things construtive, the movement will grow.

Agreed. I know I'm not the only one who would like to view "feel good"
pieces on the news - say 50 percent of what's reported, just to balance
things out. Like the ones we so rarely see that show a group of teens
helping out an old lady by cleaning and repairing her home for her. Just as
it is with parents and children (they imitate what they see, not what you
preach at them), media does influence our outlook and our view of the world
(I don't know *how* people dealing with depression can watch even 5 minutes
of the evening news!).

> Also, parents of young women are not the only ones struggling with role
> models in the media. As a parent of an African American male, I have
> in some ways, one of the worst media images to combat - that of the
> black male theif, thug and gang member. I am lucky in that my son has
> an educated, successful, professional African American for a father, as
> well as a ton of relatives who are good role models.

I totally agree with you there. As much as "gansta rap" has hurt the image
of women, it's been twice as bad for young African American males. I hate
it when "Fiddy Cent" starts bragging about how many times he's been shot
(and grossest of all he offered one of his female co-stars the chance to
feel the bullet lodged in his tongue - was that supposed to be sexy!!!???!)
I'm not condemning rap itself, I *LOVE* Will Smith's records (and Will Smith
himself - drool) - but they are fun, positive, and respectful of both
himself and women (not that Jayda would have let him do them any other way!
;>).

>
>> Woman have to be twice as
>> smart, and work twice as hard as a man to get the same treatment -
>> fortunately that's extremely easy for most women to do!!! ;>
>
> LOL...and unfortunately that's true for all minorities.
>
> <snip>
>
>> > The fittest isn't always the smartest, best prepaered, most persistent,
>> > best educated or the strongest. The "fittest" is the one who can adapt
>> > the best.
>>
>> Ah, very, *VERY* true!
>>
>> Thanks for the well-reasoned, thoughtful and cogent opinions you
>> expressed -
>> you gave me a lot to think about!
>
> Ditto here. I have a lot of passion about our future and I really hate
> the path this country is going down, in a number of ways. I do what I
> can on a grass-roots level, but a lot of the time I feel I am just
> spinning my wheels...
>
> -L.

So do we all. The problems we face now-a-days can seem overwhelming. But
then again, even if we can only help one person for a few minutes in their
lives, we've still left this universe with a little more positive energy
than we entered it with.

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Hugs,

CatNipped

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BulletProof
May 20th 06, 03:36 PM
CatNipped wrote:

> A series of financial disasters, and then having to help our families
> recover from Katrina, wiped out all our savings (even 401K) and left us over
> a hundred thousand dollars in debt. We bought our home only 2 years ago
> (with a 30 year mortgage). We couldn't possibly afford to live off SSI or
> Disability! But don't worry, I'm a tough old bird, I'll survive just fine -
> it takes more than a little pain to keep me down! ;>

A series of financial disasters...
hmm
<stroking my go-tee>

A man buys an expensive box of 20 cigars for around 10G and actually
insures them.

he smokes them, then turns around and files an insurance claim on them

when they asked him what happened, he states "they were lost through a
series of small fires".

They pay him his claim.

The ol boy chuckles and brags to his freinds.

The insurance co turns around and has him arrested for 20 counts of
arson.
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What did you do, make a series of trips to the mall? lol

you did say disaster

-L.
May 20th 06, 04:36 PM
BulletProof wrote:
> P No Gree G O wrote:
>
> > How about size 7, medium width?
> >
> > ;-)
>
> ya but then you found out an 8 felt so good you probably bought a 9
>
> ol flat-foot
>
> hammer toes
>
> i wouldn't marry a woman with gnarly toes

I've got some big-ass fred Flintstone feet - size 9. They're all
yours, bay-beh!

-L.

CatNipped
May 20th 06, 04:48 PM
"BulletProof" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> CatNipped wrote:
>
>> A series of financial disasters, and then having to help our families
>> recover from Katrina, wiped out all our savings (even 401K) and left us
>> over
>> a hundred thousand dollars in debt. We bought our home only 2 years ago
>> (with a 30 year mortgage). We couldn't possibly afford to live off SSI
>> or
>> Disability! But don't worry, I'm a tough old bird, I'll survive just
>> fine -
>> it takes more than a little pain to keep me down! ;>
>
> A series of financial disasters...
> hmm
> <stroking my go-tee>
>
> A man buys an expensive box of 20 cigars for around 10G and actually
> insures them.
>
> he smokes them, then turns around and files an insurance claim on them
>
> when they asked him what happened, he states "they were lost through a
> series of small fires".
>
> They pay him his claim.
>
> The ol boy chuckles and brags to his freinds.
>
> The insurance co turns around and has him arrested for 20 counts of
> arson.
> --
>
> What did you do, make a series of trips to the mall? lol
>
> you did say disaster

The first wasn't a disaster - we took some money out of the bank/401K for
down payment and closing costs on our home. But then... I lost my job and
after being out of work for 4 months had to take one making exactly half as
much. I got really sick while I was out of work and we weren't covered by
insurance and we had to pay those doctor and hospital fees ourselves. Pipes
broke in our yard that caused the toilet to back up and flood the entire
downstairs (and the break in the pipe wasn't in either the foundation or the
public access, so wasn't covered by insurance or the water board - we had to
pay, out-of-pocket, for both the plumbing repair and the collateral damage
repair), then they threatened to cancel our home-owner's insurance unless we
put up a fence around the spa (then HOA told us we had to cut down the 8
foot wooden fence we put up to 6 feet because we were in violation of the
HOA rules), then both cars died, then a bunch more things like that happened
that are too depressing to continue listing here.

Then Katrina hit. DH and my families all lived in St. Bernard parish
(ground zero). Every single member of our family lost every single
possession they owned as well as their homes. We had seven people (and 4
dogs and 2 extra cats) staying with us for 4 months last year - with all the
extra food and utility costs that that entailed. Then DH and I gave our
families over $50K to help get them back on their feet again (we had to, we
just lost some money - they had lost *EVERYTHING*).

No, I'm not a mall rat - I haven't bought a new pair of shoes in over two
years. ;>

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Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

BulletProof
May 20th 06, 04:49 PM
-L. wrote:

> I've got some big-ass fred Flintstone feet - size 9. They're all
> yours, bay-beh!

I see...

so you're saying, you have a good understanding

CatNipped
May 20th 06, 04:53 PM
"-L." > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> BulletProof wrote:
>> P No Gree G O wrote:
>>
>> > How about size 7, medium width?
>> >
>> > ;-)
>>
>> ya but then you found out an 8 felt so good you probably bought a 9
>>
>> ol flat-foot
>>
>> hammer toes
>>
>> i wouldn't marry a woman with gnarly toes
>
> I've got some big-ass fred Flintstone feet - size 9. They're all
> yours, bay-beh!
>
> -L.

LOL! This reminds me of an episode of "King of the Hill". Anybody remember
the one where Peggy gets talked into filming videos of her very large feet
and doesn't know they're being put on the internet for foot fetishers?!

--

Hugs,

CatNipped <----- size 8 wide

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

-L.
May 20th 06, 05:54 PM
BulletProof wrote:
> -L. wrote:
>
> > I've got some big-ass fred Flintstone feet - size 9. They're all
> > yours, bay-beh!
>
> I see...
>
> so you're saying, you have a good understanding

"I'm the foot ****in' mastah. I don't be ticklin' or nothin'."

-L.

BulletProof
May 20th 06, 06:59 PM
-L. wrote:

> "I'm the foot ****in' mastah. I don't be ticklin' or nothin'."

don't be ticklin or nothing

lol

speaking of media

I watched, Hostel.. yeah scary..
like hell! :o
it won't scary

i thought it was going to have some real torture in it, like.. please!
im begging you no more.., lol you know, some real begging

for once I'd like to see the victim talk the sicko into turning them
loose
would be a good flick! lol

someone told me hostel was by the same author as p.f.
but I gotta warn ya! it's got some scant in it

speaking of politics I watched Lord of War
w/ nicolas cage.

it was the most interesting movie I've seen in a long time.
it was about the man who trafficked guns and tanks etc pretty much
throughout my lifetime, I don't know if it was supposed to be true or
not, don't care..

what i liked about the main character was how cool he was...

i wouldn't mind being that cool, or just a little bit of it

i was just wanting something to watch where I could take my brain out
and put it under my recliner...

diiiihiihihihihihihihihihi
rat tat tat

sometimes I believe there is alot of truth in alleged fiction

BulletProof
May 20th 06, 07:10 PM
CatNipped wrote:

> LOL! This reminds me of an episode of "King of the Hill". Anybody remember
> the one where Peggy gets talked into filming videos of her very large feet
> and doesn't know they're being put on the internet for foot fetishers?!

oh yeah! that was classic...
her character is outrageous anyway
like when her and bobby stole that big ass American flag from their
neighbor

you see where Dale and the single beer belly dude, stole the backhoe
and took it to the cemetary... lol Dale goes.. watch me pick that
daisy, next scene the whole backhoe is in a big hole...

P No Gree G O
May 20th 06, 10:28 PM
BulletProof wrote:

> P No Gree G O wrote:
>
>
>>I don't believe in flaming. I believe in killfiles!
>
>
> cause I said you had hammer toes?

No, not for you!

>
> stick around...lol
>
> yule be in here by yourself
>
> What kind of cats do you have
>
> I have 2 of them.
>
> One is a 7 yr old tabby...

[snip]

>
> then there is Jupiter, she's all black...

I have a tabby and a black cat, too :-)

See them here:

http://www.catster.com/?92372

http://www.catster.com/?92379

cybercat
May 20th 06, 11:36 PM
"P No Gree G O" > wrote:
>
> See them here:
>
> http://www.catster.com/?92372
>
> http://www.catster.com/?92379
>

I LOVE the photo of Gandhi and Buddha together. Handsome guys.

P.S. I definitely believe you are not a Republican now. There's no way a
Republican would give her cats these names. ;)



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P No Gree G O
May 21st 06, 01:01 AM
cybercat wrote:

> "P No Gree G O" > wrote:
>
>>See them here:
>>
>>http://www.catster.com/?92372
>>
>>http://www.catster.com/?92379
>>
>
>
> I LOVE the photo of Gandhi and Buddha together. Handsome guys.

Thank you, though I had nothing to do with it ;-)
>
> P.S. I definitely believe you are not a Republican now. There's no way a
> Republican would give her cats these names. ;)

I'm an Independent who is a social liberal and fiscal conservative. Have
voted all over the political spectrum!

BulletProof
May 21st 06, 02:18 AM
P No Gree G O wrote:

> > I LOVE the photo of Gandhi and Buddha together. Handsome guys.
>
> Thank you, though I had nothing to do with it ;-)
> >
> > P.S. I definitely believe you are not a Republican now. There's no way a
> > Republican would give her cats these names. ;)
>
> I'm an Independent who is a social liberal and fiscal conservative. Have
> voted all over the political spectrum!

well nice! I hope my little blackie fills out like that
they look really healthy, I think that's neat we got bookend cats