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Totalrod2@aol.com
November 25th 06, 03:30 AM
I just need to vent. I love my cat so much, but she's peeing everywhere
(including in her box where she KNOWS she's supposed to be going).
There's blood in her pee. It's bright red and she only goes little tiny
droplets at a time (tract infection?). I've taken her to 2 different
vets and spent over $1,500 on her. She's putting me in the poor house!!
This problem has gone on for the better part of two years. The vets
have run tests and they continuously tell me nothing is wrong with her.
Are they ****ing idiots?! She's ****ing blood!! Even a five year old
child could tell something is wrong here. I would gladly spend the
money if it would make my cat better. But I can't afford to keep
bringing her in just to have these boneheads tell me "she's fine" OR
"it's a behavior problem". Blood stained urine is a behavior problem?
That's a new one for the medical books. I wish I didn't have to get rid
of her, but my house is really starting to wreak of urine. Has anyone
else ever been in this situation?
Bryan

Matthew
November 25th 06, 03:41 AM
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I just need to vent. I love my cat so much, but she's peeing everywhere
> (including in her box where she KNOWS she's supposed to be going).
> There's blood in her pee. It's bright red and she only goes little tiny
> droplets at a time (tract infection?). I've taken her to 2 different
> vets and spent over $1,500 on her. She's putting me in the poor house!!
> This problem has gone on for the better part of two years. The vets
> have run tests and they continuously tell me nothing is wrong with her.
> Are they ****ing idiots?! She's ****ing blood!! Even a five year old
> child could tell something is wrong here. I would gladly spend the
> money if it would make my cat better. But I can't afford to keep
> bringing her in just to have these boneheads tell me "she's fine" OR
> "it's a behavior problem". Blood stained urine is a behavior problem?
> That's a new one for the medical books. I wish I didn't have to get rid
> of her, but my house is really starting to wreak of urine. Has anyone
> else ever been in this situation?
> Bryan


Bryan this is not a behavioral problem your vets are idiots if they have
not sent you to a specialist if they can't figure it out. Where do you live
so one of us can give you information for specialist or a vet college that
can try and help you out

Vent all you like I would be ripping their throats out if they were being
stupid with me. So would a lot of us.

May I ask what test they have run and the treatments they have preformed if
you can remember

Rhonda
November 25th 06, 05:29 AM
Bryan,

Wow, I can't believe you and your cat have had to go through this.

First of all, you have to find a vet you can trust. Sounds like the
first two didn't follow through or didn't know how to find the problem.
Where are you located? Maybe someone here knows of a good vet. You could
call a cat/animal rescue group in your area and ask for a
recommendation. Finding a good vet is going to solve a lot of problems
-- hopefully her peeing for one thing, but also the cost. If someone can
dig in and find the cause it's going to save you a lot of money rather
than continued searching with more tests.

You could also go to an internist vet, they are specialists. You
normally have to have a referral from a regular vet. Our vet suggests
one right away when she knows the problem is past her diagnostic
capabilities.

Good luck. Don't give up. You've had some bad luck but I think you can
turn it around.

Let us know what happens,

Rhonda

wrote:
> I just need to vent. I love my cat so much, but she's peeing everywhere
> (including in her box where she KNOWS she's supposed to be going).
> There's blood in her pee. It's bright red and she only goes little tiny
> droplets at a time (tract infection?). I've taken her to 2 different
> vets and spent over $1,500 on her. She's putting me in the poor house!!
> This problem has gone on for the better part of two years. The vets
> have run tests and they continuously tell me nothing is wrong with her.
> Are they ****ing idiots?! She's ****ing blood!! Even a five year old
> child could tell something is wrong here. I would gladly spend the
> money if it would make my cat better. But I can't afford to keep
> bringing her in just to have these boneheads tell me "she's fine" OR
> "it's a behavior problem". Blood stained urine is a behavior problem?
> That's a new one for the medical books. I wish I didn't have to get rid
> of her, but my house is really starting to wreak of urine. Has anyone
> else ever been in this situation?
> Bryan
>

Phil P.
November 25th 06, 09:05 AM
> wrote in message
oups.com...
> I just need to vent. I love my cat so much, but she's peeing everywhere
> (including in her box where she KNOWS she's supposed to be going).
> There's blood in her pee. It's bright red and she only goes little tiny
> droplets at a time (tract infection?).

That's a classic description of Feline Interstitial Cystis (FIC). She may
have defect in the glycosaminoglycan (GAG) layer that coats the bladder wall
that's allowing urine to penetrate the urothelium and cause inflammation.
Crystals or small calculi can also irritate and inflame the bladder wall.
Inflammation in the bladder and/or urethra causes a nervous sensation that
mimics the sensation a full bladder even if the bladder is empty. The
nervous impulses that control urination are constantly stimulated by the
inflammation so that she has the urge to urinate constantly whether her
bladder is full or empty. So, even if her bladder is empty she'll still try
and strain to urinate. Bleeding can be caused by irritation from crystals or
calculi, and/or tearing the bladder mucosa from straining to urinate. She's
peeing all over the place because she's associating the painful urination
with the location- she's trying to find a place that doesn't hurt her when
she pees.



I've taken her to 2 different
> vets and spent over $1,500 on her. She's putting me in the poor house!!
> This problem has gone on for the better part of two years. The vets
> have run tests and they continuously tell me nothing is wrong with her.

Did they check her urine for crystals and bacteria?


> Are they ****ing idiots?!

Just average, mediocre vets that don't bother to think past the numbers. If
nothing abnormal shows up on the tests- the cat must be ok... even if she's
peeing, pooping, and vomiting blood... Unfortunately, there are a lot vets
like that around who treat the numbers instead of the cat.



She's ****ing blood!! Even a five year old
> child could tell something is wrong here. I would gladly spend the
> money if it would make my cat better. But I can't afford to keep
> bringing her in just to have these boneheads tell me "she's fine" OR
> "it's a behavior problem". Blood stained urine is a behavior problem?
> That's a new one for the medical books. I wish I didn't have to get rid
> of her, but my house is really starting to wreak of urine. Has anyone
> else ever been in this situation?
> Bryan

You don't have to get rid of her- she can be treated. Surrendering a cat to
a shelter for an inappropriate urination problem is an automatic death
sentence.

The first order of business is feeding her only canned food. Canned food
will increase her water intake and dilute the noxious substances in her
urine. It will also result in more frequent urination- which in turn will
decrease bladder contact time with urine and eliminate crystals and small
calculi before they can irritate the bladder wall.

Also, speak to a vet about a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement- such as
Cosequin- to help repair and maintain her bladder wall. Finally, you might
want to speak to a vet about Amitriptyline. Amitriptyline is tricyclic
anti-depressant that also has anti-inflammatory and analgesic properties and
has helped many cats with FIC.

Keep the faith,

Phil

Lesley
November 25th 06, 11:23 AM
wrote:
I've taken her to 2 different
> vets and spent over $1,500 on her. She's putting me in the poor house!!
> This problem has gone on for the better part of two years. The vets
> have run tests and they continuously tell me nothing is wrong with her.
> Are they ****ing idiots?!

My first advice to you is the same as everyone else's.

Your vets are idiots, change vets.

If they're not idiots then they are even worse because they're
obviously just seeing you as an ATM for them. More expensive tests =
more money for them.

I agree with Phil P (I always do I salute his knowledge of feline
health every time he writes something) it sounds like FIC, which is
treatable but only by a vet who isn't either incompetent or just out to
get as much cash as they can out of a concerned slave.

Try asking friends with cats for recommendations or ask the local
shelter- I don't know where you are but if by some unlikely miracle you
live in East London UK then let me know and I can tell you the vets I'd
recommend (Goddards in Burdett Road, Mile End have consistently cared
for my cats very well since 1999)

But CHANGE THE VET!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

T
November 25th 06, 02:14 PM
In article . com>,
says...
> I just need to vent. I love my cat so much, but she's peeing everywhere
> (including in her box where she KNOWS she's supposed to be going).
> There's blood in her pee. It's bright red and she only goes little tiny
> droplets at a time (tract infection?). I've taken her to 2 different
> vets and spent over $1,500 on her. She's putting me in the poor house!!
> This problem has gone on for the better part of two years. The vets
> have run tests and they continuously tell me nothing is wrong with her.
> Are they ****ing idiots?! She's ****ing blood!! Even a five year old
> child could tell something is wrong here. I would gladly spend the
> money if it would make my cat better. But I can't afford to keep
> bringing her in just to have these boneheads tell me "she's fine" OR
> "it's a behavior problem". Blood stained urine is a behavior problem?
> That's a new one for the medical books. I wish I didn't have to get rid
> of her, but my house is really starting to wreak of urine. Has anyone
> else ever been in this situation?
> Bryan
>
>

I think you've encountered the new breed of veterinarians. They're all
about the money, not about the health of the animal.

flash
November 25th 06, 05:18 PM
"T" > wrote
>
> I think you've encountered the new breed of veterinarians. They're all
> about the money, not about the health of the animal.

It isn't a new breed. As with inept/unethical people in all professions,
they have always been there. Choose your vet carefully, based upon
talking with others who have used them.

T
November 25th 06, 06:37 PM
In article >, says...
>
> "T" > wrote
> >
> > I think you've encountered the new breed of veterinarians. They're all
> > about the money, not about the health of the animal.
>
> It isn't a new breed. As with inept/unethical people in all professions,
> they have always been there. Choose your vet carefully, based upon
> talking with others who have used them.
>
>
>

Not just veterinarians but M.D.'s as well. My ENT is making me crazy - I
have what is obviously an inner ear infection. Thus far I've been given
diuretics, tranqs, steroids, had a head MRI, etc. I can't wait to see
him again in a couple weeks because he's going to get an earful.

barb
November 25th 06, 07:17 PM
I had this same problem with my Moonshines, Urinary Tract problem for 2
years, vet after vet. I finally got the vet I had been asking for but by
the wrong name. I told him the situation and asked him to make up a
treatment plan for her, but not the same old antibiotics because she was
having recurrences before the antibiotics were even done. He put her on
steroids for a few weeks, decreasing the dosage little by little. He also
put her on Science Diet prescription for Urinary tract and she was cured.
She lived another 10 years after all that.

--
Barb
Of course I don't look busy,
I did it right the first time.

Totalrod2@aol.com
November 26th 06, 03:53 AM
Thanks everyone for the replies! I'm located in Middleton,
Massachusetts. Can I buy Science Diet without a doctor's presription?
Today I stopped giving her the dry cat food. From what y'all are
telling me it sounds like FIC is exactly what's wrong. The vets did a
blood test, urine analysis, stool analysis, and suggested an MRI but
they "couldn't guarantee it would show anything seeing as the other
tests came back fine". So that's where I drew the line (mainly because
we ran out of money!). Nonetheless, we did have the cat on Clavamox for
2 weeks and she seemed to do better, not peeing everywhere (as much)
and when she did, the pee had little or NO blood in it at all. This
made us think maybe it was a behavioral issue, until the blood
returned. But this has gone on since we got her in 2004. Also, she's
always licking her crotch...she must be in alot of pain down there.
By the way, her name is Pussums.
._.`._.`.`._.`._.
That's why I haven't mentioned her name very much.
Bryan

Totalrod2@aol.com
November 26th 06, 05:41 AM
By the way, I do plan on finding another vet. But my father mentioned
something this afternoon about HIS mother feeding scrambled eggs w/
hamburger to their pug, Didi (this was in the 1950's) and this dog had
a similar problem with dry food. Granted, it was a dog, but there seems
to be quite a bit of info online which says cats love scrambled eggs
too. Is this something that could help my cat?
Bryan

Rhonda
November 26th 06, 08:34 AM
Hi Bryan,

I don't think I followed your post below. I know your cat is having
problems peeing everywhere with blood in the urine, but is she having
problems eating too? I didn't get the reference to a problem with dry food.

By the way, is your cat spayed? If not, have they run tests for uterine
problems?

I don't know about the eggs -- haven't heard of them helping cats with
anything.

Good luck,

Rhonda

wrote:
> By the way, I do plan on finding another vet. But my father mentioned
> something this afternoon about HIS mother feeding scrambled eggs w/
> hamburger to their pug, Didi (this was in the 1950's) and this dog had
> a similar problem with dry food. Granted, it was a dog, but there seems
> to be quite a bit of info online which says cats love scrambled eggs
> too. Is this something that could help my cat?
> Bryan
>

Totalrod2@aol.com
November 26th 06, 09:13 AM
No, she has no problems eating. But Phil P. mentioned feeding her just
canned food from here on in. On a Saturday evening that's the one thing
I can start doing right away. Anything else (like finding a new vet)
will probably have to wait until Monday. I just wasn't sure if the
scrambled eggs was some sort of an old fashioned remedy(?).
Bryan

Lesley
November 26th 06, 11:27 AM
wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the replies! I'm located in Middleton,
> Massachusetts. Can I buy Science Diet without a doctor's presription?
>

Yes I brought some yesterday in the UK it is only sold through vets
though- don't know about over in the USA

I hope she gets better soon- . I had an episode of cystitis once many
years ago and I can sure as Hell appreciate how she must feel. You want
to go every 5 minutes even through you know you don't need to and boy
it hurts!! It must be all of 15 years ago and I still wince at the
memory! As a Human I can understand that where I go doesn't matter but
she's trying places to find somewhere where it doesn't hurt. Believe me
if I'd found peeing on the carpet was less painful the carpet would
have had to be replaced!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Lesley
November 27th 06, 12:04 AM
T wrote:
>
> I think you've encountered the new breed of veterinarians. They're all
> about the money, not about the health of the animal.

They are not new..many years ago Jack met Linda and they wanted to be
wedded. Jack got offered a teaching job in Saudi...he could only come
back twice a year for the next two years but they could phone/write etc
and the money would pay the deposit for their first home together and
furnishing it

So off went Jack and as a parting gift he gave Linda a tabby kitten
named Jaws

fast forward to 16 years later, he did the contract, paid the deposit
for their home etc...they must have celebrated his return in style
because by this point their first born son was 14 and Jaws was getting
old

At first they saw a vet who prescribed treatment for some minor renal
problems but then the vet moved away and they saw a new vet

"Shyster" is probably the word I would use to describe the next vet.

He played shamefully (Like he had a sense of shame) on the fact that
Linda always associated Jaws with the time when Jack was away it was
always "This might work...there's another test we can do"

Alas Linda was clutching at straws about her beloved Jaws and the vet
encouraged it when Jack asked what were the options and would it be
kinder to have Jaws put to sleep, Linda gave him a look that suggested
she would sooner have him put to sleep than Jaws and the vet
immediately suggested another expensive course of treatment that might
work

>From 18 to 20 Jaws had no real life at all. He sat on his bed, watching
the other cats, ate now and again (On expensive food the vet suggested
and sold of course!) staggered to his litter box now and again and once
a month was carted to the vet who was still suggesting the next
expensive treatment might do the trick and Linda could not accept the
little kitten she'd been given all those years ago might be just old
and ready to go and could not be returned to kittenhood.(Sometimes you
can love TOO much) and still the vet was there with a ready smile and a
chorus of "We could try this"

Aged 21, Jaws body finally decided it had had enough of being carted to
the vet and not really living by this point the cat was on multiple
medications, near blind, incontinent, hardly able to move because of
severe arthritis, senile to the point where he would start to stagger
to his feedbowl then forget where he was going...And still not more
than a couple of weeks before his body asserted common sense the vet
was still suggesting more tests or some new drugs

For a finale the vet charged for cremation and returning the ashes in a
container with a little picture of Jaws as a kitten which fell off the
container!

In total Jack spent 8,000 UK pounds or thereabouts maybe more.

Now it's not about money. When my beloved Fugazi was ill aged 12 I
said to the vet (This is why we still use them) "Assume money is no
object, we have overdrafts and credit cards and my brother is seriously
rich (He's a yuppie but he does love cats) and will front me some cash
if needs be...but what are the chances if we go all out she will either
recover or at least have a few months of good quality life?"

And the vet said "Less than 5% she isn't suffering right now you could
even take her home for a day or two to say goodbye but beyond that..."

So I weighed up the fact that she hadn't much liked the journey to the
vets, if I took her home Dave would think she was okay until I had to
tell him and could I handle knowing that two days from now I would have
to bring her back?

And just said " Let's end it now"

Obviously I still wonder if we'd spent the money the 5% might have come
through but at least the vet gave me an informed decision and I decided
and she crossed the Bridge with her dignity intact unlike poor Jaws

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Ben Goren
November 27th 06, 01:15 AM
Lesley wrote:

> Now it's not about money. When my beloved Fugazi was ill aged 12
> I said to the vet (This is why we still use them) "Assume money
> is no object [. . . .]"

I don't feel like re-opening some rather fresh wounds with the
details...but I have a similar story with the same outcome, which
is why I'll be taking my next cat (whenever she and I find each
other) back to Dr. Hummel...even though Joanie died in my arms by
her hand.

(Well, to be fair, Dr. Hummel /did/ pull out some extra stops that
last weekend...but, up until late on the last afternoon, we had
good reason to think that it was worth it.)

Cheers,

b&

--
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T
November 27th 06, 02:47 AM
In article . com>,
says...
>
> T wrote:
> >
> > I think you've encountered the new breed of veterinarians. They're all
> > about the money, not about the health of the animal.
>
> They are not new..many years ago Jack met Linda and they wanted to be
> wedded. Jack got offered a teaching job in Saudi...he could only come
> back twice a year for the next two years but they could phone/write etc
> and the money would pay the deposit for their first home together and
> furnishing it

I snipped the story a bit to tell you my new practice with vets. I know
my cat better than anyone and when it's time for him, I'll know it. The
last remaining cat is 17, in good health, energetic, vocal as usual,
eats well, etc.

But I know in a couple years I'm going to have to make the decision. I
won't let a vet milk it for what it's worth. I've had Randy since I was
25 years old, he's a special cat to me, but after putting one cat down
and having one die in the SO's arms, I now know when a cat is ready to
go.

KittiKat
November 27th 06, 02:55 AM
Hi There,

I can relate to shadey vet practices!!!!

My female has had some problem with stones and UTI discomfort and she
is on Royal Canin Urinary SO, which is suppose to promote good urinary
tract health in cats - When my cat got crystals at 6 months of age, the
vet switched her over to this ASAP and said no more dry food, ever
again, apparently the vet *said* her crystal count was the highest
she'd seen in a kitten, ever (now if this is true, not sure). Even
though canned food has high water content, I still add a bit to the
food, as it doesn't hurt to help with diluting the urine. Below is the
link for the food, it is available in the US as well. I think you may
have to go into a vet's office to buy it, but in Canada, you can go in
to any vet clinic and buy food - they want your business. They may ask
if you are a client, even if you say no, they should still give it to
you, I've never had issues, I buy from the cheapest clinic, sometimes
they can get competitive with cat food pricing. Most food is out front
for the client's - shouldn't be a big deal, here is the weblink for the
food if you want to look it up:

http://www.walthamusa.com/Learning%20Center/SO30-canned.html

Hope the switch helps!



Lesley wrote:
> wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for the replies! I'm located in Middleton,
> > Massachusetts. Can I buy Science Diet without a doctor's presription?
> >
>
> Yes I brought some yesterday in the UK it is only sold through vets
> though- don't know about over in the USA
>
> I hope she gets better soon- . I had an episode of cystitis once many
> years ago and I can sure as Hell appreciate how she must feel. You want
> to go every 5 minutes even through you know you don't need to and boy
> it hurts!! It must be all of 15 years ago and I still wince at the
> memory! As a Human I can understand that where I go doesn't matter but
> she's trying places to find somewhere where it doesn't hurt. Believe me
> if I'd found peeing on the carpet was less painful the carpet would
> have had to be replaced!
>
> Lesley
>
> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Totalrod2@aol.com
November 27th 06, 04:52 AM
Here's a picture of Pussums. BTW, we all thought it was pretty darn
funny when I named her that at the time. But now I wish I hadn't. Too
late, the last thing she needs is to be even more confused by a name
change!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i98/totalrod2/DSC_0121.jpg?t=1164599763

jmc
November 27th 06, 05:58 AM
Suddenly, without warning, Phil P. exclaimed (25-Nov-06 6:35 PM):
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> I just need to vent. I love my cat so much, but she's peeing everywhere
>> (including in her box where she KNOWS she's supposed to be going).
>> There's blood in her pee. It's bright red and she only goes little tiny
>> droplets at a time (tract infection?).
>
> That's a classic description of Feline Interstitial Cystis (FIC).
>
>> I wish I didn't have to get rid
>> of her, but my house is really starting to wreak of urine. Has anyone
>> else ever been in this situation?
>> Bryan
>
> You don't have to get rid of her- she can be treated. Surrendering a cat to
> a shelter for an inappropriate urination problem is an automatic death
> sentence.
>
> The first order of business is feeding her only canned food. Canned food
> will increase her water intake and dilute the noxious substances in her
> urine. It will also result in more frequent urination- which in turn will
> decrease bladder contact time with urine and eliminate crystals and small
> calculi before they can irritate the bladder wall.
>
> Also, speak to a vet about a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement- such as
> Cosequin- to help repair and maintain her bladder wall. Finally, you might
> want to speak to a vet about Amitriptyline. Amitriptyline is tricyclic
> anti-depressant that also has anti-inflammatory and analgesic properties and
> has helped many cats with FIC.
>
> Keep the faith,
>
> Phil
>
>

Phil gives very good advice. I went through the same thing with Meep,
except with a decent vet. She had the exact same symptoms you describe
for your cat. Here's Meep's regime, hopefully it'll help you:

Although I agree your cat should be on 100% wet food, Meep's on wet in
the evening and dry otherwise... There's two reasons for this: she
refuses to eat any good-quality wet/canned food; her dry food is a mix
of senior food and a veterinary urinary control formula. Junk food
junkie, she is. Also, she gets pretty serious tartar buildup on her
teeth, so I prefer to keep feeding some dry for her dental health.

So she gets high-quality dry in the morning, and a small can of wet food
in the evening (she won't eat more than that). To her wet food, I add a
glucosamine supplement - I use Joint Care from Drs Foster and Smith
(http://tinyurl.com/yjnw4p - she's on JC2). (Glucosamine supplements
specifically for urinary problems are a lot more expensive, and my vet
said it's pretty much the same). I also add a bit of extra water to her
wet food (she's up to about a tablespoon). If she's showing signs of
possibly getting uncomfortable - digging in her box a lot, or peeing
more frequently than normal - I add a supplement to her food for a few
days (http://tinyurl.com/mvvbw).

In addition, I've put water all over the house. At first, I tried
water bowls in different locations, to determine where she prefers her
water. Turns out, she completely does not like her water next to her
food! Her favorite water dish for a while was in the bedroom, but
that's recently shifted to the one in the living room, next to her tree.
I also purchased a Drinkwell, a pet fountain, as many cats prefer
moving water to drink. I'm told some cats can be induced to drink more
by the addition of a touch of tuna-water to their regular water, but
though Meep Loves tuna water, she doesn't want it in her drinking water...

Oh, and because the water here is extremely hard, I have a big Britta
filter for her water...

This sounds like a lot, but it's really not. Before this, she had two
serious attacks within 6 months of each other; the second she had blood
in her urine. With the new regime, it's been I think over a year now,
and a high-stress year it's been - she's moved to a new foreign country,
and spent a couple months in catteries/quarantine.

So, here's what I'd suggest:

Get her on wet food immediately. Add a tiny bit of water, increasing
the amount if you can. Get a glucosamine supplement, and add it to her
food per package instructions. If you can afford it and she'll eat it,
get better quality stuff. You don't have to go to the vet for this, try
pet stores, feed stores or online (petsmart.com if you're in the US)

Get more water bowls, put them everywhere, pay attention to which ones
she's drinking from, and how much. If she doesn't drink out of them,
try filtered water - or if you can, bottled, at least until you can get
the problem under control. Try ice cubes, or a little flavoring.

If you can afford it, buy a Drinkwell or other pet fountain. Keep it
clean, full and running.

Oh, and find yourself a decent vet. This isn't a deadly disease, but
it's terribly painful for her, as I'm sure you realize.

Good luck, and hope this helps!

jmc

-L.
November 27th 06, 10:25 AM
wrote:
> Here's a picture of Pussums. BTW, we all thought it was pretty darn
> funny when I named her that at the time. But now I wish I hadn't. Too
> late, the last thing she needs is to be even more confused by a name
> change!
> http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i98/totalrod2/DSC_0121.jpg?t=1164599763

Did you declaw her or was it already done when you got her?

-L.

Totalrod2@aol.com
November 27th 06, 06:32 PM
How did you know that?
No I wouldn't do that to a cat. She was already declawed when I got
her. She's got free reign to every room in our (BIG) house. We're
actually going to be moving to York, South Carolina in a couple of
months. She isn't not going to like the drive down there AT ALL !
If I could find her a loving home here, it might probably be for the
best. It won't be until next year though (February / March). If not,
she's definately coming with us....I have not intentions of
surrendering her to a kennel. Is anyone here from Massachusetts?
Bryan Lord

Matthew
November 27th 06, 06:41 PM
> wrote in message
oups.com...
> How did you know that?


I can answer that you can see it in the picture her paws are extended in a
stretch motion and there is no claw tips

> No I wouldn't do that to a cat. She was already declawed when I got
> her. She's got free reign to every room in our (BIG) house. We're
> actually going to be moving to York, South Carolina in a couple of
> months. She isn't not going to like the drive down there AT ALL !
> If I could find her a loving home here, it might probably be for the
> best. It won't be until next year though (February / March). If not,
> she's definately coming with us....I have not intentions of
> surrendering her to a kennel. Is anyone here from Massachusetts?
> Bryan Lord
>

-L.
November 27th 06, 11:42 PM
wrote:
> How did you know that?

I can tell by the appearance of her feet.

> No I wouldn't do that to a cat. She was already declawed when I got
> her. She's got free reign to every room in our (BIG) house. We're
> actually going to be moving to York, South Carolina in a couple of
> months. She isn't not going to like the drive down there AT ALL !
> If I could find her a loving home here, it might probably be for the
> best. It won't be until next year though (February / March). If not,
> she's definately coming with us....I have not intentions of
> surrendering her to a kennel. Is anyone here from Massachusetts?
> Bryan Lord

I moved my cats from Indiana to NC to CA to OR - no need to rehome her.
Look into interstitial cystitis like Phil said - I will bet that is
her problem.

-L.

-L.
November 27th 06, 11:43 PM
Matthew wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > How did you know that?
>
>
> I can answer that you can see it in the picture her paws are extended in a
> stretch motion and there is no claw tips

No, the paws/toes look short because they are amputated. You wouldn't
see claw tips on a long-haired cat, anyway, unless they were extremely
long.

-L.

Matthew
November 27th 06, 11:46 PM
"-L." > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Matthew wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> > How did you know that?
>>
>>
>> I can answer that you can see it in the picture her paws are extended in
>> a
>> stretch motion and there is no claw tips
>
> No, the paws/toes look short because they are amputated. You wouldn't
> see claw tips on a long-haired cat, anyway, unless they were extremely
> long.
>
> -L.


Huh I learn something new everyday. I guessed my way your is also an easy
way to do it.

So I take it you like my picture of Ka'Shay and Spirit :-)

jmc
November 28th 06, 11:30 AM
Suddenly, without warning, exclaimed (28-Nov-06 4:02 AM):
> How did you know that?
> No I wouldn't do that to a cat. She was already declawed when I got
> her. She's got free reign to every room in our (BIG) house. We're
> actually going to be moving to York, South Carolina in a couple of
> months. She isn't not going to like the drive down there AT ALL !
> If I could find her a loving home here, it might probably be for the
> best. It won't be until next year though (February / March). If not,
> she's definately coming with us....I have not intentions of
> surrendering her to a kennel. Is anyone here from Massachusetts?
> Bryan Lord
>

Short move, I'd say. If she's an older cat or if you haven't got her
cystitis sorted out by then, I'd get a decent vet's advice, as I did for
Meep's most recent adventure (She's 10 now, and as I posted earlier, has
had cystitis attacks in the past).

Meep the TravelCat has moved extensively, she's done overseas moves four
times so far, and a fifth is in her future (we do have to go home
someday). She's also traveled all over Britain (she likes Scotland,
there's hardly anybody there <g>), and has also crossed the US with us
as well.

jmc

Catjoy via CatKB.com
November 28th 06, 04:34 PM
Hi Bryan,

Sorry to hear about the troubles you and Pussums have been going through!
Those vets were idiots. Glad to hear you are in the midst of switching.

Anyway, in regard to the canned food, I would personally recommend Wellness -
it's available at quite a few pet stores in North America. It has high
qualilty ingredients and no grains. I think cats *need* wet food to maintain
optimal health, whether they suffer from FIC or not. Years ago, before I
knew better, I used to feed my cats dry. After I learned about how cats
require moisture/water content in their food, I switched to wet, and the
difference (condition-wise) was tremendous. Wet food does cost more, but it
is definitely worth it when you consider kitty's well-being and savings in
vet bills.

Hope you will post an update on Pussums soon. She's a beauty. Though I
don't have any first-hand experience of FIC, it can be treated, so don't give
up!

Good luck.

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Outsider
November 30th 06, 01:44 AM
T > wrote in
:

> In article . com>,
> says...
>>
>> T wrote:
>> >
>> > I think you've encountered the new breed of veterinarians. They're
all
>> > about the money, not about the health of the animal.
>>
>> They are not new..many years ago Jack met Linda and they wanted to be
>> wedded. Jack got offered a teaching job in Saudi...he could only come
>> back twice a year for the next two years but they could phone/write
etc
>> and the money would pay the deposit for their first home together and
>> furnishing it
>
> I snipped the story a bit to tell you my new practice with vets. I know
> my cat better than anyone and when it's time for him, I'll know it. The
> last remaining cat is 17, in good health, energetic, vocal as usual,
> eats well, etc.
>
> But I know in a couple years I'm going to have to make the decision. I
> won't let a vet milk it for what it's worth. I've had Randy since I was
> 25 years old, he's a special cat to me, but after putting one cat down
> and having one die in the SO's arms, I now know when a cat is ready to
> go.


A good vet will treat you like a partner in your pets care not an
observer.

boot
November 30th 06, 03:52 AM
Take her to the Tufts Veterinary School Clinic. Schedule Appointments
(Monday thru Fri, 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.) 508-839-5395

On Nov 24, 7:30 pm, wrote:
> I just need to vent. I love my cat so much, but she's peeing everywhere
> (including in her box where she KNOWS she's supposed to be going).
> There's blood in her pee. It's bright red and she only goes little tiny
> droplets at a time (tract infection?). I've taken her to 2 different
> vets and spent over $1,500 on her. She's putting me in the poor house!!
> This problem has gone on for the better part of two years. The vets
> have run tests and they continuously tell me nothing is wrong with her.
> Are they ****ing idiots?! She's ****ing blood!! Even a five year old
> child could tell something is wrong here. I would gladly spend the
> money if it would make my cat better. But I can't afford to keep
> bringing her in just to have these boneheads tell me "she's fine" OR
> "it's a behavior problem". Blood stained urine is a behavior problem?
> That's a new one for the medical books. I wish I didn't have to get rid
> of her, but my house is really starting to wreak of urine. Has anyone
> else ever been in this situation?
> Bryan