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>> >> on Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:31:31 GMT, "Phil P." >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Have you ever noticed how people always say "there must be at least
>> >> > or 60 cats" when they see a colony of only 10-15 cats? lol I got an
>> >> > urgent call about a "huge" colony that the local residents were
>> >> > complaining to the board of health about because there were "so
>> >> > I went to the colony at dusk and dawn and late at night for three
>> >> > days- I put out 5 plates of kitty krack and hid for three hours. I
>> >> > didn't count more than a total of 12 cats total in all 3 days.
>> >> >
>> >> > This isn't the first time I heard such an exaggeration. I really
>> >> > wonder why so many people really believe they're seeing 5 times as
>> >> > many cats as there actually are???
>> >> >
>> >> > What an assorted colony this is!!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Enjoy.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://maxshouse.com/Feral/clsdt-0008.jpg
>> >> > http://maxshouse.com/Feral/clsdt-0060.jpg
>> >> > http://maxshouse.com/Feral/clsdt-0048.jpg
>> >> > http://maxshouse.com/Feral/clsdt_0009.jpg
>> >> > http://maxshouse.com/Feral/clsdt-0057.jpg
>> >> > http://maxshouse.com/Feral/clsdt_0061-sm.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> Holy cow! I mean COWS!! Those are the best fed ferals I've ever
>> >> seen!
>> > You're not kidding! Those cats eat better than a lot of people!
>> >> There must be some great hunting there. :)
>> > They established their colony in a vacant building behind a restaurant.
>> > few employees took a liking to the cats. The chef sautÚs a few pounds
>> > ground sirlorn or chicken or turkey for them and the waiters alternate
>> > delivering it! True story. lol
>> > The cats have begun hanging around in the parking lot in the back of
>> > the
>> > restaurant. That's what led to the complaints- presumably by patrons or
>> > the
>> > owner of an office building nearby. At least the restaurant stuck up
>> > the cats and told the BOH they keep the mice and rats under control.
>> > To
>> > keep the status quo, I agreed to TNR the cats. Hopefully the
>> > restaurant
>> > will cover all or at least half of the cost. It looks like it might be
>> > hard sell since the restaurant thinks the more cats the better for
>> > control. The area is reclaimed swampland. So, rats are abundant.
>> >> I would bet that the people who over estimate the number of cats just
>> >> not cat lovers. They probably can't distinguish one cat from another
>> >> figure out how to count them. Either that or they are exaggerating on
>> >> purpose in order to get quick action (which makes me think they are
>> >> not
>> >> only cat lovers, but perhaps cat haters.)
>> > I don't know-- I've heard people I know and work with tell other people
>> > "He's (me) has like 20 cats". Actually I only have 12- 5 are mine and
>> > 7
>> > are
>> > fosters- 3 of which are kittens. Maybe cat reproduce prolifically in
>> > people's imagination, too! lol
>> >> Gorgeous kitties--thanks for sharing!
>> > They look more like pampered pets than ferals, don't they?
>> > This one caught me:
>> > http://maxshouse.com/Feral/clsdt_b+w-bk-eye_0069.jpg
>> > Looks like she's saying "Hey, what are doing?" lol
>> > Phil
>> Sounds much like the bunch I've been trapping the last couple of months
>> (taking that long because I can only get a few spay appts. at a time).
> I know whatch mean. Trapping the cats isn't a problem- its getting them
> into the vet on short notice. I've been using 4 vets- the only ones in my
> area that will work with ferals- 2 are really good about short-notice
> neuters. They'll take the cats in the same day I trap them, hold them
> neutering day, and then keep them a day for observation . The only
> are they only do surgeries 2 days a week- unless its an emergency- and
> they'll only take 2 or 3 cats at a time- or 4 or 5 if they're all males.
> other two vets usually give me appointments for a week or two away. They
> don't give me much of a discount and insist I bring the cats in in a
> restraint module- they don't like to just tip the cage a little to get the
> cat against the side to sedate them or use a trap isolator to gently
> the cat against the side.
> They're real PITA prima donnas but they're excellent surgeons. Their
> incisions are very small and they don't shave off a big patch of fur-
> I like for winter neuters. If I'm in a trapping frenzy before kitten
> I'll make several appointments then hope I can trap the cats a day or two
> before the appointments. With drop traps I can pretty much trap on
>> trapped 20 cats so far and have maybe 7 more to go (one has been missing
>> a number of weeks).
> I've had a few MIAs in a couple of my colonies. A couple showed up a few
> months later. So, keep the faith.
> They had originally said there were only around 15 back
>> there. I guess people tell you what they think will make you willing to
>> the problem.
> I don't think that's the reason- If they wanted you to TNR the colony,
> would probably give you a very conservative estimate to make the job sound
> easy. Not many people are equipped- or would even want to take on a
> colony- unless it was a combined effort of several groups or agencies.
>> These guys are also behind a restaurant in a shopping center and were
>> fed by the restaurant employees. Unfortunately for the cats, the
>> closed on New Years Day. There is a woman who is going back there twice a
>> day to feed and keep an eye on them. Having them used to the restaurant
>> certainly makes it a challenge to find something that will entice them
>> the traps though.
>> Did my heart good to trap a big boy this week who had been walking by the
>> traps and marking them. Now I'm down to the last few who sit there going
>> "neener neener".
> Use a drop trap- they're excellent for trapping trap-wise cats. Drop traps
> are also great for trapping only the cats you want. They're simple to make
> and the materials only cost about $80- if you make a folding trap and use
> good quality netting. A trap that doesn't fold only costs about $30-50
> takes about 3 hours to make. I've made about 5 folding traps in the last
> month because a few of my trappers don't have vans or cars big enough to
> hold a regular drop trap. Here're some pictures of the frame of a trap
> working on so you can see how it opens:
> My next drop trap will be 8' or 10' square so I can trap an entire small
> colony with one drop. I'll just need to find more vets who will neuter
> I just can't handle another kitten season like this passed one- it never
> ended. I still have kittens from the year before that are now full grown
> much harder to adopt.
I hear you about this last kitten season. It's not ending. We got in two
litters last weekend and just had someone in the store today trying to get
us to take another litter. We still have two litters from the summer to find
At least people are finally looking at our adults. We adopted a girl out two
weeks ago who came in last April when she was pregnant and another today who
we picked up in another colony last June.