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Laura
February 15th 07, 01:57 AM
There is a cat at my rescue with FLUTD Feline lower urinary tract disorder
and he has a bad blockage I need donations ASAP to fix him or he will have
to be put to sleep.....

www.milorescue.co.nr

Cat Protector
February 15th 07, 05:30 PM
You'd actually have a cat put to sleep for a UTI unless we send money? I'd
be careful of this one people. Though UTI's and the like are serious, I'd
have to question how a rescue can miss the warning signs before the
blockage. There are plenty. Scratching around in the litterbox and straining
to pee is one. Urinating in places other than litterbox is another. Also,
crying while using the litterbox is another.

The fact that a rescue group would actually have a cat euthanized for this
kind of issue if people didn't send them money makes me question their
ethical practices. Yes, money can be tight in small rescues but not too many
of them will consider putting an animal down if the problem can be fixed as
plenty of them deal with vets that either volunteer their time or will do
the surgery at a reduced rate. The other factor about this one is that the
rescue is outside the U.S. and given the scams we have these days, you don't
know if your money is actually going to be used for the purpose of saving an
animal, paying someone's salary, or simply put being put in someone's bank
account where you never see the person again. Tread with caution on this one
people.


"Laura" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> There is a cat at my rescue with FLUTD Feline lower urinary tract disorder
> and he has a bad blockage I need donations ASAP to fix him or he will have
> to be put to sleep.....
>
> www.milorescue.co.nr
>

Laura
February 15th 07, 06:52 PM
I got the cat in this condition
I am a very small non profit and the vets in my community don't want to
help. All they want is they're money. 1 vet told me that I could pay half
now and half in 2 weeks so I paid upfront the first half and he isn't
getting any better... they won't do surgery to unblock the partial blockage
unless they have the full amount ($467.96) up front. If I don't have the
money unfortunatly there is no other option than to euthanise the animal as
there isn't even another shelter that will accept the cat. The reason I took
him was to try and save him in the first place. The lady I got him from was
going to throw Squirt outside. I have refrences from people that have
adopted animals from me in the past if you need them e-mailed to you. I have
no other option than to ask for help and Squirt only has a couple of weeks
before he is totally blocked. Most of my cash after paying bills goes to
food for the animals and food for myself. I don't have the extra to put out
at the momment.
Squirt is on Walthams SD diet right now and he is still urniating blood.

I post here because there are a lot of animal lovers here that probably
would like to help.

Although I am in Canada I don't understand why this is an issue....is this a
strict US newsgroup? This is not a scam... and even to suggest that of
somebody genuinely asking for help is unfair.

Thank you all for your time

~Laura

kraut
February 15th 07, 07:33 PM
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:52:03 GMT, "Laura" > wrote:

>I got the cat in this condition
>I am a very small non profit and the vets in my community don't want to
>help. All they want is they're money. 1 vet told me that I could pay half
>now and half in 2 weeks so I paid upfront the first half and he isn't
>getting any better... they won't do surgery to unblock the partial blockage
>unless they have the full amount ($467.96) up front. If I don't have the
>money unfortunatly there is no other option than to euthanise the animal as
>there isn't even another shelter that will accept the cat. The reason I took
>him was to try and save him in the first place. The lady I got him from was
>going to throw Squirt outside. I have refrences from people that have
>adopted animals from me in the past if you need them e-mailed to you. I have
>no other option than to ask for help and Squirt only has a couple of weeks
>before he is totally blocked. Most of my cash after paying bills goes to
>food for the animals and food for myself. I don't have the extra to put out
>at the momment.
>Squirt is on Walthams SD diet right now and he is still urniating blood.
>
>I post here because there are a lot of animal lovers here that probably
>would like to help.
>
>Although I am in Canada I don't understand why this is an issue....is this a
>strict US newsgroup? This is not a scam... and even to suggest that of
>somebody genuinely asking for help is unfair.
>
>Thank you all for your time
>
>~Laura


How about the vets name, address, phone number, etc if there really is
one??

Laura
February 15th 07, 10:23 PM
this is pathetic..... if you don't believe me don't donate!

The vets name is on my website

the address and phone number is there also

~Laura

John Ross Mc Master
February 16th 07, 01:22 AM
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:23:41 GMT, "Laura" > wrote:

>this is pathetic..... if you don't believe me don't donate!
>
>The vets name is on my website
>
>the address and phone number is there also
>
>~Laura
>

Do you issue incime tax receipts? Do you have charity status with
Canada Revenue Agency?

John Ross Mc Master
February 16th 07, 01:23 AM
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:30:52 -0700, "Cat Protector"
> wrote:

>You'd actually have a cat put to sleep for a UTI unless we send money? I'd
>be careful of this one people. Though UTI's and the like are serious, I'd
>have to question how a rescue can miss the warning signs before the
>blockage. There are plenty. Scratching around in the litterbox and straining
>to pee is one. Urinating in places other than litterbox is another. Also,
>crying while using the litterbox is another.
>
>The fact that a rescue group would actually have a cat euthanized for this
>kind of issue if people didn't send them money makes me question their
>ethical practices. Yes, money can be tight in small rescues but not too many
>of them will consider putting an animal down if the problem can be fixed as
>plenty of them deal with vets that either volunteer their time or will do
>the surgery at a reduced rate. The other factor about this one is that the
>rescue is outside the U.S. and given the scams we have these days, you don't
>know if your money is actually going to be used for the purpose of saving an
>animal, paying someone's salary, or simply put being put in someone's bank
>account where you never see the person again. Tread with caution on this one
>people.
>

It isn't a scam. It's a small legitimate cat rescue.
>
>"Laura" > wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> There is a cat at my rescue with FLUTD Feline lower urinary tract disorder
>> and he has a bad blockage I need donations ASAP to fix him or he will have
>> to be put to sleep.....
>>
>> www.milorescue.co.nr
>>
>

John Ross Mc Master
February 16th 07, 01:25 AM
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:52:03 GMT, "Laura" > wrote:

>I got the cat in this condition
>I am a very small non profit and the vets in my community don't want to
>help. All they want is they're money. 1 vet told me that I could pay half
>now and half in 2 weeks so I paid upfront the first half and he isn't
>getting any better... they won't do surgery to unblock the partial blockage
>unless they have the full amount ($467.96) up front. If I don't have the
>money unfortunatly there is no other option than to euthanise the animal as
>there isn't even another shelter that will accept the cat. The reason I took
>him was to try and save him in the first place. The lady I got him from was
>going to throw Squirt outside. I have refrences from people that have
>adopted animals from me in the past if you need them e-mailed to you. I have
>no other option than to ask for help and Squirt only has a couple of weeks
>before he is totally blocked. Most of my cash after paying bills goes to
>food for the animals and food for myself. I don't have the extra to put out
>at the momment.
>Squirt is on Walthams SD diet right now and he is still urniating blood.
>
>I post here because there are a lot of animal lovers here that probably
>would like to help.
>
>Although I am in Canada I don't understand why this is an issue....is this a
>strict US newsgroup? This is not a scam... and even to suggest that of
>somebody genuinely asking for help is unfair.
>
>Thank you all for your time
>
>~Laura
>

Call other cat rescues and have them recommend a cheaper vet. This is
an outrageous price to be charging.

Laura
February 16th 07, 03:58 AM
> It isn't a scam. It's a small legitimate cat rescue.


Thank-you and no I don't have charity status....I am non profit and un
registered I just do what I can to help

~Laura

John Ross Mc Master
February 16th 07, 04:19 AM
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:58:12 GMT, "Laura" > wrote:

>> It isn't a scam. It's a small legitimate cat rescue.
>
>
>Thank-you and no I don't have charity status....I am non profit and un
>registered I just do what I can to help
>
>~Laura
>

Take the deposit you left with the vet. Shop around for someone who
will do it for 1/2 price. DONT talk to them on the phone, talk in
person.
Talk to people in other cat rescues. Maybe if you gave them $200 and
the cat they would perform the operation. It can't hurt to try.
Good luck, but my resources are all tied up at my own cat rescue
organization in the Fraser Valley.

Laura
February 16th 07, 04:23 AM
> Take the deposit you left with the vet. Shop around for someone who
> will do it for 1/2 price. DONT talk to them on the phone, talk in
> person.
> Talk to people in other cat rescues. Maybe if you gave them $200 and
> the cat they would perform the operation. It can't hurt to try.
> Good luck, but my resources are all tied up at my own cat rescue
> organization in the Fraser Valley.

I will do that...thank you
The thing is in Edmonton here the cat rescues and the SPCA even the pound is
so full they are all euthanising cats by the 100's.....it's horrible.
If I can't get the funds together before March 1'st I don't know what to
do...
Thank you for your support

~Laura

ps. do u have a website?

Laura
February 16th 07, 04:29 AM
maybe I should also say I'm 19 work part time and go to school also... I do
what I can to help... being called a "scam" before I'm checked into isn't
fair... don't call down on people you don't know. I've done a lot within the
last 3 years and have been doing this for the last 7 years but the last 3
have almost been all of my free time. I don't drink do drugs or spend my
money on anything that isn't a necessity. I have put out so much already all
I'm asking for is help. Anything you can spare is nice and will help. I get
donations sometimes but it's very rare and mostly it comes from people who
adopt from me. I work very hard to find homes for the feral cats in my
neighborhood (and there are many) I have rescued 109 kittens and 36 feral
adults all of which had to be caught tamed down and socialised before they
could be rehomed. This was just last year (2006)
Everything extra I have goes into my rescue.

Thanks for listening to me rant and rave

~Laura

Laura
February 16th 07, 04:30 AM
maybe I should say the post above was directed at Cat Protector

~Laura

John Ross Mc Master
February 16th 07, 05:54 PM
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:23:33 GMT, "Laura" > wrote:

>> Take the deposit you left with the vet. Shop around for someone who
>> will do it for 1/2 price. DONT talk to them on the phone, talk in
>> person.
>> Talk to people in other cat rescues. Maybe if you gave them $200 and
>> the cat they would perform the operation. It can't hurt to try.
>> Good luck, but my resources are all tied up at my own cat rescue
>> organization in the Fraser Valley.
>
>I will do that...thank you
>The thing is in Edmonton here the cat rescues and the SPCA even the pound is
>so full they are all euthanising cats by the 100's.....it's horrible.
>If I can't get the funds together before March 1'st I don't know what to
>do...
>Thank you for your support
>
>~Laura
>
>ps. do u have a website?
>

http://www.pawsworld.com/fvhs/

Cat Protector
February 18th 07, 04:32 AM
If you are non-profit and unregistered then you might be breaking the law.
You can't expect people to donate without any kind of proof that you are a
legitimate rescue. Most of them are licensed and have tax ID numbers.

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"Laura" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>> It isn't a scam. It's a small legitimate cat rescue.
>
>
> Thank-you and no I don't have charity status....I am non profit and un
> registered I just do what I can to help
>
> ~Laura
>

Laura
February 18th 07, 05:42 AM
I am not breaking any law in my city...
I have proof.......I have references from the many adoptions I have done.
I don't understand why you are so bent on making everyone's life harder
would u rather I stop rescuing cats? and have them out on the streets dying?
Some people are cruel and you sir are one of them

~Laura

William Hamblen
February 18th 07, 02:54 PM
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:42:17 GMT, "Laura" > wrote:

>I am not breaking any law in my city...
>I have proof.......I have references from the many adoptions I have done.
>I don't understand why you are so bent on making everyone's life harder
>would u rather I stop rescuing cats? and have them out on the streets dying?
>Some people are cruel and you sir are one of them

Rescuing cats is one thing, asking for money is another. I'd hate to
hear about you getting into trouble. Talk to your attorney about
charitable solitations. From the IRS web site:

Many states have laws regulating the solicitation of funds for
charitable purposes. These statutes generally require organizations to
register with a state agency before soliciting the state's residents
for contributions, providing exemptions from registration for certain
categories of organizations. In addition, organizations may be
required to file periodic financial reports. State laws may impose
additional requirements on fundraising activity involving paid
solicitors and fundraising counsel. An IRS training document describes
these requirements in greater detail. Charitable organizations may
wish to contact the appropriate state agency to learn more about the
requirements that may apply in their state, before soliciting
contributions. In some states, municipal or other local governments
may also require organizations soliciting charitable contributions to
register and report.

Bud
--
The night is just the shadow of the Earth.

John Ross Mc Master
February 18th 07, 03:39 PM
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:54:52 -0600, William Hamblen
> wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:42:17 GMT, "Laura" > wrote:
>
>>I am not breaking any law in my city...
>>I have proof.......I have references from the many adoptions I have done.
>>I don't understand why you are so bent on making everyone's life harder
>>would u rather I stop rescuing cats? and have them out on the streets dying?
>>Some people are cruel and you sir are one of them
>
>Rescuing cats is one thing, asking for money is another. I'd hate to
>hear about you getting into trouble. Talk to your attorney about
>charitable solitations. From the IRS web site:
>
>Many states have laws regulating the solicitation of funds for
>charitable purposes. These statutes generally require organizations to
>register with a state agency before soliciting the state's residents
>for contributions, providing exemptions from registration for certain
>categories of organizations. In addition, organizations may be
>required to file periodic financial reports. State laws may impose
>additional requirements on fundraising activity involving paid
>solicitors and fundraising counsel. An IRS training document describes
>these requirements in greater detail. Charitable organizations may
>wish to contact the appropriate state agency to learn more about the
>requirements that may apply in their state, before soliciting
>contributions. In some states, municipal or other local governments
>may also require organizations soliciting charitable contributions to
>register and report.
>
>Bud

Didn't you see her web site? She's in Canada. The IRS is an alien
organization. Foreign laws do not apply in Canada. She is breaking no
Canadian law. She is young and naive, but honestly rescuing cats.
Anybody can ask for money. You don't need charitable status to do so.

This being said, it would be wise of Laura to get charitable status
since this would make people more likely to donate. I would also
suggest that she gets together with like minded people and form a
larger organization, one more likely to get discounts from more vets
due to buying power. She seems to be a "lone wolf" at this point in
her activities.

John Ross Mc Master
February 18th 07, 04:12 PM
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:32:51 -0700, "Cat Protector"
> wrote:

>If you are non-profit and unregistered then you might be breaking the law.
>You can't expect people to donate without any kind of proof that you are a
>legitimate rescue. Most of them are licensed and have tax ID numbers.

What Laura is, is a young woman with few resources who is rescuing
cats on her own. Quite legal and commendable. You're right about one
thing--she should have a charity number. I'd go further. She needs to
team up with more people and incorporate.

Laura, people are suspicious because you are trying to raise $ on the
usenet. The usenet is a nest of thieves.

What we do at our rescue is to maintain a mailing list and request
donations from people who have previously adopted one of our cats. We
also hold garage sales, bake sales, have donation boxes in vets
offices, accept Canadian Tire money, get grants from the city.ETC.

Cat Protector
February 18th 07, 05:38 PM
I'm cruel? I don't think it's wrong or cruel to ask how you are able to
operate without a license and a tax ID. Most legitimate groups have the
necessary paperwork to prove they are a non-profit and thus allowed to
operate. If I was a cruel guy then why would I donate money every year to
rescues who BTW, are legally allowed to operate, have the necessary tax ID
#'s that prove their non-profit status? Nobody's telling you to stop
rescuing cats but you can't blame people for asking if you are legal to
operate. Also, scammers abound on the internet and when someone comes on
asking for money to help a cat or they'll be forced to euthanize them is not
only a bad tactic to use but also unethical.

I have worked with many rescues and none of them have said "help this cat or
I'll have them euthanized if I don't receive any money." A lot of the
smaller rescues and even some of the larger ones will often work with vets
that can have procedures done at a reduced rate.

Nobody is making your life harder and I don't think it is unreasonable to
ask if your rescue group or organization is legally allowed to operate
especially if someone who wishes to donate asks for your tax ID # so they
can write off the money they gave you as a donation.

--
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www.catgalaxymedia.com

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"Laura" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>I am not breaking any law in my city...
> I have proof.......I have references from the many adoptions I have done.
> I don't understand why you are so bent on making everyone's life harder
> would u rather I stop rescuing cats? and have them out on the streets
> dying?
> Some people are cruel and you sir are one of them
>
> ~Laura
>
>

Cat Protector
February 18th 07, 05:51 PM
Just because they put up a web site doesn't mean that her rescue is
legitimate. I'm not sure what the laws are in Canada but if they are similar
to the United States then she will need to file as a non-profit and pretty
much file the right paperwork in order to become legal. Here are a few sites
that she might want to read.

http://www.charityvillage.com/cv/guides/guide4.asp
http://www.managementhelp.org/strt_org/strt_np/strt_np.htm

While her wanting to rescue cats is noble she really should file the
necessary documents in order to be listed and become a legal non-profit.
Without doing that, she's going to have a lot of people question her group's
existance when they ask for her non-profit tax ID or filing status number.

--
Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com

Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
www.panthertekit.com

"John Ross Mc Master" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:54:52 -0600, William Hamblen
>
> Didn't you see her web site? She's in Canada. The IRS is an alien
> organization. Foreign laws do not apply in Canada. She is breaking no
> Canadian law. She is young and naive, but honestly rescuing cats.
> Anybody can ask for money. You don't need charitable status to do so.
>
> This being said, it would be wise of Laura to get charitable status
> since this would make people more likely to donate. I would also
> suggest that she gets together with like minded people and form a
> larger organization, one more likely to get discounts from more vets
> due to buying power. She seems to be a "lone wolf" at this point in
> her activities.
>

Cat Protector
February 18th 07, 06:02 PM
That isn't the point. Asking for money in order to save a cat's life and
then saying the cat will be euthanized if nobody sends you money raises the
question of this scenario as being legitimate. People are very reluctant to
send money to an organization or individual they don't know. I resent being
called a cruel person because I called into question whether you are legally
allowed to operate. If I was such a cruel person then 3 of my cats would not
have gotten such a great home and I wouldn't have dedicated myself to
helping cats for so many years by getting most of the ones I've found placed
into legal non-profits so they have a chance to being adopted into good and
loving homes.

Most of those who have rescues need to file for exempt non-profit status. If
you don't have the money to do so then why not become a member of a
legitimate rescue as a volunteer? That would be an excellent place to start
before attempting to start your own rescue. Many times the legal non-profits
have access to resources like vets who will do certain procedures like
spaying and neutering at a lower cost.

--
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www.catgalaxymedia.com

Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
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"Laura" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> maybe I should also say I'm 19 work part time and go to school also... I
> do what I can to help... being called a "scam" before I'm checked into
> isn't fair... don't call down on people you don't know. I've done a lot
> within the last 3 years and have been doing this for the last 7 years but
> the last 3 have almost been all of my free time. I don't drink do drugs or
> spend my money on anything that isn't a necessity. I have put out so much
> already all I'm asking for is help. Anything you can spare is nice and
> will help. I get donations sometimes but it's very rare and mostly it
> comes from people who adopt from me. I work very hard to find homes for
> the feral cats in my neighborhood (and there are many) I have rescued 109
> kittens and 36 feral adults all of which had to be caught tamed down and
> socialised before they could be rehomed. This was just last year (2006)
> Everything extra I have goes into my rescue.
>
> Thanks for listening to me rant and rave
>
> ~Laura
>

Cat Protector
February 18th 07, 06:06 PM
And I answered. BTW, how will you handle it if someone has a problem with a
cat and wishes to return them for whatever reason or they ask you for your
non-profit tax ID # and you don't have one to give them? Perhaps you should
read the advice given to you. It might make your functioning as a non-profit
easier.

--
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www.catgalaxymedia.com

Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
www.panthertekit.com
"Laura" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> maybe I should say the post above was directed at Cat Protector
>
> ~Laura
>

William Hamblen
February 19th 07, 01:42 AM
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:39:50 GMT, John Ross Mc Master
> wrote:

>She is breaking no Canadian law.

Look into the Uniform Chartiable Fundraising Act, then.

Bud
--
The night is just the shadow of the Earth.

Laura
February 19th 07, 07:41 AM
> Look into the Uniform Chartiable Fundraising Act, then.



This is straight from the act mentioned above again I am breaking NO laws


Charities that raise annual gross contributions of less than $25,000 are
exempt from the requirements of

the Uniform Act. This was to recognize the burden additional regulation
could place on smaller

organizations.

John Ross Mc Master
February 19th 07, 04:43 PM
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 06:41:04 GMT, "Laura" > wrote:

>> Look into the Uniform Chartiable Fundraising Act, then.
>
>
>
>This is straight from the act mentioned above again I am breaking NO laws
>
>
>Charities that raise annual gross contributions of less than $25,000 are
>exempt from the requirements of
>
>the Uniform Act. This was to recognize the burden additional regulation
>could place on smaller
>
>organizations.
>
Read your email. I'm sending it now.

Wendy
February 20th 07, 01:35 PM
Part of your problem soliciting funds is that the contributions wouldn't be
tax deductible (here at least) because you don't have official non-profit
status.

I would contact rescue groups in your area and see if you can work a deal to
use their vet at their cost if you cover the cost.


W




"Laura" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>> Look into the Uniform Chartiable Fundraising Act, then.
>
>
>
> This is straight from the act mentioned above again I am breaking NO laws
>
>
> Charities that raise annual gross contributions of less than $25,000 are
> exempt from the requirements of
>
> the Uniform Act. This was to recognize the burden additional regulation
> could place on smaller
>
> organizations.
>
>

Wendy
February 20th 07, 01:39 PM
Take a chill pill. Many rescue groups get started with just one person. I
can understand being guarded about sending money to people before checking
to make sure it's legit but someone who is working on their own and can't
afford to pay this vet bill undoubtedly doesn't have the money to pay to
establish the corporation and apply for non-profit status.



W




"Cat Protector" > wrote in message
...
> I'm cruel? I don't think it's wrong or cruel to ask how you are able to
> operate without a license and a tax ID. Most legitimate groups have the
> necessary paperwork to prove they are a non-profit and thus allowed to
> operate. If I was a cruel guy then why would I donate money every year to
> rescues who BTW, are legally allowed to operate, have the necessary tax ID
> #'s that prove their non-profit status? Nobody's telling you to stop
> rescuing cats but you can't blame people for asking if you are legal to
> operate. Also, scammers abound on the internet and when someone comes on
> asking for money to help a cat or they'll be forced to euthanize them is
> not only a bad tactic to use but also unethical.
>
> I have worked with many rescues and none of them have said "help this cat
> or I'll have them euthanized if I don't receive any money." A lot of the
> smaller rescues and even some of the larger ones will often work with vets
> that can have procedures done at a reduced rate.
>
> Nobody is making your life harder and I don't think it is unreasonable to
> ask if your rescue group or organization is legally allowed to operate
> especially if someone who wishes to donate asks for your tax ID # so they
> can write off the money they gave you as a donation.
>
> --
> Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
> www.catgalaxymedia.com
>
> Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
> www.panthertekit.com
> "Laura" > wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>I am not breaking any law in my city...
>> I have proof.......I have references from the many adoptions I have done.
>> I don't understand why you are so bent on making everyone's life harder
>> would u rather I stop rescuing cats? and have them out on the streets
>> dying?
>> Some people are cruel and you sir are one of them
>>
>> ~Laura
>>
>>
>
>

Wendy
February 20th 07, 01:44 PM
Just keep really good records of what you spend on your kitties and what
donations you have received. You don't need problems with the tax man. I
think you'll need them if you ever get large enough to apply for non-profit
status.

W

"Laura" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> maybe I should also say I'm 19 work part time and go to school also... I
> do what I can to help... being called a "scam" before I'm checked into
> isn't fair... don't call down on people you don't know. I've done a lot
> within the last 3 years and have been doing this for the last 7 years but
> the last 3 have almost been all of my free time. I don't drink do drugs or
> spend my money on anything that isn't a necessity. I have put out so much
> already all I'm asking for is help. Anything you can spare is nice and
> will help. I get donations sometimes but it's very rare and mostly it
> comes from people who adopt from me. I work very hard to find homes for
> the feral cats in my neighborhood (and there are many) I have rescued 109
> kittens and 36 feral adults all of which had to be caught tamed down and
> socialised before they could be rehomed. This was just last year (2006)
> Everything extra I have goes into my rescue.
>
> Thanks for listening to me rant and rave
>
> ~Laura
>

Cat Protector
February 21st 07, 03:07 AM
That isn't the point at all. The main point is, how can she start a rescue
if she doesn't have the financial means to handle getting care for one cat.
If she can't pay to get one cat's operation or treatment then how will she
handle the many others she intends on helping. I recommend she volunteer for
a larger rescue and do fostering for them.


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"Wendy" > wrote in message
...
> Take a chill pill. Many rescue groups get started with just one person. I
> can understand being guarded about sending money to people before checking
> to make sure it's legit but someone who is working on their own and can't
> afford to pay this vet bill undoubtedly doesn't have the money to pay to
> establish the corporation and apply for non-profit status.
>
>
>
> W
>
>
>
>
> "Cat Protector" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm cruel? I don't think it's wrong or cruel to ask how you are able to
>> operate without a license and a tax ID. Most legitimate groups have the
>> necessary paperwork to prove they are a non-profit and thus allowed to
>> operate. If I was a cruel guy then why would I donate money every year to
>> rescues who BTW, are legally allowed to operate, have the necessary tax
>> ID #'s that prove their non-profit status? Nobody's telling you to stop
>> rescuing cats but you can't blame people for asking if you are legal to
>> operate. Also, scammers abound on the internet and when someone comes on
>> asking for money to help a cat or they'll be forced to euthanize them is
>> not only a bad tactic to use but also unethical.
>>
>> I have worked with many rescues and none of them have said "help this cat
>> or I'll have them euthanized if I don't receive any money." A lot of the
>> smaller rescues and even some of the larger ones will often work with
>> vets that can have procedures done at a reduced rate.
>>
>> Nobody is making your life harder and I don't think it is unreasonable to
>> ask if your rescue group or organization is legally allowed to operate
>> especially if someone who wishes to donate asks for your tax ID # so they
>> can write off the money they gave you as a donation.
>>
>> --
>> Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
>> www.catgalaxymedia.com
>>
>> Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
>> www.panthertekit.com
>> "Laura" > wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>>I am not breaking any law in my city...
>>> I have proof.......I have references from the many adoptions I have
>>> done.
>>> I don't understand why you are so bent on making everyone's life harder
>>> would u rather I stop rescuing cats? and have them out on the streets
>>> dying?
>>> Some people are cruel and you sir are one of them
>>>
>>> ~Laura
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Wendy
February 23rd 07, 01:00 PM
Every person who starts a rescue group isn't independently wealthy. The
anticipation might be to just have to get shots and speutering to start with
and the OP happened upon a cat with more expensive needs.

I said it is wise to check out anyone before you send them money. In this
case have you discovered anything that would indicate this person to be
running a scam? If so please share the results of your research.

"Cat Protector" > wrote in message
...
> That isn't the point at all. The main point is, how can she start a rescue
> if she doesn't have the financial means to handle getting care for one
> cat. If she can't pay to get one cat's operation or treatment then how
> will she handle the many others she intends on helping. I recommend she
> volunteer for a larger rescue and do fostering for them.
>
>
> --
> Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
> www.catgalaxymedia.com
>
> Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
> www.panthertekit.com
> "Wendy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Take a chill pill. Many rescue groups get started with just one person. I
>> can understand being guarded about sending money to people before
>> checking to make sure it's legit but someone who is working on their own
>> and can't afford to pay this vet bill undoubtedly doesn't have the money
>> to pay to establish the corporation and apply for non-profit status.
>>
>>
>>
>> W
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Cat Protector" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I'm cruel? I don't think it's wrong or cruel to ask how you are able to
>>> operate without a license and a tax ID. Most legitimate groups have the
>>> necessary paperwork to prove they are a non-profit and thus allowed to
>>> operate. If I was a cruel guy then why would I donate money every year
>>> to rescues who BTW, are legally allowed to operate, have the necessary
>>> tax ID #'s that prove their non-profit status? Nobody's telling you to
>>> stop rescuing cats but you can't blame people for asking if you are
>>> legal to operate. Also, scammers abound on the internet and when someone
>>> comes on asking for money to help a cat or they'll be forced to
>>> euthanize them is not only a bad tactic to use but also unethical.
>>>
>>> I have worked with many rescues and none of them have said "help this
>>> cat or I'll have them euthanized if I don't receive any money." A lot of
>>> the smaller rescues and even some of the larger ones will often work
>>> with vets that can have procedures done at a reduced rate.
>>>
>>> Nobody is making your life harder and I don't think it is unreasonable
>>> to ask if your rescue group or organization is legally allowed to
>>> operate especially if someone who wishes to donate asks for your tax ID
>>> # so they can write off the money they gave you as a donation.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
>>> www.catgalaxymedia.com
>>>
>>> Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
>>> www.panthertekit.com
>>> "Laura" > wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>>>I am not breaking any law in my city...
>>>> I have proof.......I have references from the many adoptions I have
>>>> done.
>>>> I don't understand why you are so bent on making everyone's life harder
>>>> would u rather I stop rescuing cats? and have them out on the streets
>>>> dying?
>>>> Some people are cruel and you sir are one of them
>>>>
>>>> ~Laura
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Laurie
February 24th 07, 03:35 AM
While you're reading/writing on usenet about your non-profit status,
etc..., how is the cat doing? My suggestion, since this is an urgent
health problem, is you put a picture of the cat on a donation box, write
a little paragraph saying exactly what's the matter with it and how much
you need for the operation. See if the vet will let you put it right on
their counter, or find some store(s) or business(es) who will. The
money will come. Sit outside on a sidewalk with a chair and a table with
the cat in your arms if you have to. Wait, it's too cold for that.
Just a good picture then!

Wendy wrote:
>
> Just keep really good records of what you spend on your kitties and what
> donations you have received. You don't need problems with the tax man. I
> think you'll need them if you ever get large enough to apply for non-profit
> status.
>
> W
>
> "Laura" > wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > maybe I should also say I'm 19 work part time and go to school also... I
> > do what I can to help... being called a "scam" before I'm checked into
> > isn't fair... don't call down on people you don't know. I've done a lot
> > within the last 3 years and have been doing this for the last 7 years but
> > the last 3 have almost been all of my free time. I don't drink do drugs or
> > spend my money on anything that isn't a necessity. I have put out so much
> > already all I'm asking for is help. Anything you can spare is nice and
> > will help. I get donations sometimes but it's very rare and mostly it
> > comes from people who adopt from me. I work very hard to find homes for
> > the feral cats in my neighborhood (and there are many) I have rescued 109
> > kittens and 36 feral adults all of which had to be caught tamed down and
> > socialised before they could be rehomed. This was just last year (2006)
> > Everything extra I have goes into my rescue.
> >
> > Thanks for listening to me rant and rave
> >
> > ~Laura
> >

Laura
February 24th 07, 05:48 AM
thank you for the idea Laurie...the cat is doing great there is a lady that
I doggysit for and her boyfriend gave me the full price of the surgery.
However this cat will need ongoing medical care for it's life along with
medical food and examinations on a 3 month basis for the next year. I've
decided to keep him......he needs too much care to let him go to any home.
The vet has agreed to do all of the next care on bi-weekly payments so he
will be well taken care of. Thank you all for responding (with one exception
0.o)

~Laura
"Laurie" > wrote in message
...
> While you're reading/writing on usenet about your non-profit status,
> etc..., how is the cat doing? My suggestion, since this is an urgent
> health problem, is you put a picture of the cat on a donation box, write
> a little paragraph saying exactly what's the matter with it and how much
> you need for the operation. See if the vet will let you put it right on
> their counter, or find some store(s) or business(es) who will. The
> money will come. Sit outside on a sidewalk with a chair and a table with
> the cat in your arms if you have to. Wait, it's too cold for that.
> Just a good picture then!
>
> Wendy wrote:
>>
>> Just keep really good records of what you spend on your kitties and what
>> donations you have received. You don't need problems with the tax man. I
>> think you'll need them if you ever get large enough to apply for
>> non-profit
>> status.
>>
>> W
>>
>> "Laura" > wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> > maybe I should also say I'm 19 work part time and go to school also...
>> > I
>> > do what I can to help... being called a "scam" before I'm checked into
>> > isn't fair... don't call down on people you don't know. I've done a lot
>> > within the last 3 years and have been doing this for the last 7 years
>> > but
>> > the last 3 have almost been all of my free time. I don't drink do drugs
>> > or
>> > spend my money on anything that isn't a necessity. I have put out so
>> > much
>> > already all I'm asking for is help. Anything you can spare is nice and
>> > will help. I get donations sometimes but it's very rare and mostly it
>> > comes from people who adopt from me. I work very hard to find homes for
>> > the feral cats in my neighborhood (and there are many) I have rescued
>> > 109
>> > kittens and 36 feral adults all of which had to be caught tamed down
>> > and
>> > socialised before they could be rehomed. This was just last year (2006)
>> > Everything extra I have goes into my rescue.
>> >
>> > Thanks for listening to me rant and rave
>> >
>> > ~Laura
>> >