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March 22nd 07, 02:51 PM
Gasp!

Pet-food recall: Thursday-morning numbers
>From the PetConnection.com database. 6 a.m. PT:

Total reports of sick or dead pets: 1529
Deceased pets: 769
Of those:

Cats, deceased: 460
Dogs, deceased: 309
http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-the-latest-numbers/

Matthew
March 22nd 07, 03:53 PM
I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire and are
way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would be
going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night. The sick
cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy right
now


> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Gasp!
>
> Pet-food recall: Thursday-morning numbers
>>From the PetConnection.com database. 6 a.m. PT:
>
> Total reports of sick or dead pets: 1529
> Deceased pets: 769
> Of those:
>
> Cats, deceased: 460
> Dogs, deceased: 309
> http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-the-latest-numbers/
>

PawsForThought
March 22nd 07, 05:24 PM
On Mar 22, 11:53 am, "Matthew" > wrote:
> I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire and are
> way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would be
> going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night. The sick
> cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy right
> now

Exactly. I would like to see some proof of these numbers.

March 22nd 07, 05:53 PM
On Mar 22, 11:53 am, "Matthew" > wrote:
> I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire and are
> way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would be
> going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night. The sick
> cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy right
> now

Do you think the owners of these recently deceased animals in MANY of
these googled news stories aren't for real?
http://tinyurl.com/3a3lvw

Food recalls are not an animal cruelty issue, so AR groups aren't yet
involved much with this crisis. Though I'm sure when all is said and
done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises.

I think at that point, the numbers WILL end-up being so much higher.

I pray I'm wrong.


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> > Gasp!
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> > Pet-food recall: Thursday-morning numbers
> >>From the PetConnection.com database. 6 a.m. PT:
>
> > Total reports of sick or dead pets: 1529
> > Deceased pets: 769
> > Of those:
>
> > Cats, deceased: 460
> > Dogs, deceased: 309
> >http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-the-late...- Hide quoted text -
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March 22nd 07, 06:13 PM
On Mar 22, 1:53 pm, wrote:
> On Mar 22, 11:53 am, "Matthew" > wrote:
>
> > I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire and are
> > way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would be
> > going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night. The sick
> > cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy right
> > now
>
> Do you think the owners of these recently deceased animals in MANY of
> these googled news stories aren't for real?http://tinyurl.com/3a3lvw
>
> Food recalls are not an animal cruelty issue, so AR groups aren't yet
> involved much with this crisis.

Oops Looks like PeTA's just got they're licks in.
http://www.pr-inside.com/peta-calls-for-cruelty-investigation-into-r73704.htm

PeTA never liked Menu foods anyways.
http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/menu-mfg.html




Though I'm sure when all is said and
> done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises.
>

March 22nd 07, 06:19 PM
On Mar 22, 1:53 pm, wrote:
> Food recalls are not an animal cruelty issue, so AR groups aren't yet
> involved much with this crisis. Though I'm sure when all is said and
> done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises.

Oops Looks like PeTA's just got they're licks in.
http://www.pr-inside.com/peta-calls-for-cruelty-investigation-into-r7...

PeTA never liked Iams or Menu foods anyways.
http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/menu-mfg.html

>
> I think at that point, the numbers WILL end-up being so much higher.
>
> I pray I'm wrong.
>
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> ups.com...
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> > > Gasp!
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> > > Pet-food recall: Thursday-morning numbers
> > >>From the PetConnection.com database. 6 a.m. PT:
>
> > > Total reports of sick or dead pets: 1529
> > > Deceased pets: 769
> > > Of those:
>
> > > Cats, deceased: 460
> > > Dogs, deceased: 309
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March 22nd 07, 06:23 PM
On Mar 22, 2:19 pm, wrote:
> Oops Looks like PeTA's just got they're licks in.http://www.pr-inside.com/peta-calls-for-cruelty-investigation-into-r7...

Corrected link
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-22-2007/0004551456&EDATE=

Matthew
March 22nd 07, 07:25 PM
PETA has been after IAMS For years nothing new

> wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Mar 22, 1:53 pm, wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 11:53 am, "Matthew" > wrote:
>>
>> > I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire and
>> > are
>> > way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would
>> > be
>> > going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night. The
>> > sick
>> > cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy
>> > right
>> > now
>>
>> Do you think the owners of these recently deceased animals in MANY of
>> these googled news stories aren't for real?http://tinyurl.com/3a3lvw
>>
>> Food recalls are not an animal cruelty issue, so AR groups aren't yet
>> involved much with this crisis.
>
> Oops Looks like PeTA's just got they're licks in.
> http://www.pr-inside.com/peta-calls-for-cruelty-investigation-into-r73704.htm
>
> PeTA never liked Menu foods anyways.
> http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/menu-mfg.html
>


>
>
> Though I'm sure when all is said and
>> done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises.
>>
>

Cat Protector
March 22nd 07, 07:58 PM
PETA is a radical group and I don't take much stock in what they say. In
fact, they are nothing more than hypocrites.

--
Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com

Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
www.panthertekit.com
"Matthew" > wrote in message
...
> PETA has been after IAMS For years nothing new
>
> > wrote in message
> ps.com...
>> On Mar 22, 1:53 pm, wrote:
>>> On Mar 22, 11:53 am, "Matthew" > wrote:
>>>
>>> > I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire
>>> > and are
>>> > way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would
>>> > be
>>> > going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night.
>>> > The sick
>>> > cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy
>>> > right
>>> > now
>>>
>>> Do you think the owners of these recently deceased animals in MANY of
>>> these googled news stories aren't for real?http://tinyurl.com/3a3lvw
>>>
>>> Food recalls are not an animal cruelty issue, so AR groups aren't yet
>>> involved much with this crisis.
>>
>> Oops Looks like PeTA's just got they're licks in.
>> http://www.pr-inside.com/peta-calls-for-cruelty-investigation-into-r73704.htm
>>
>> PeTA never liked Menu foods anyways.
>> http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/menu-mfg.html
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Though I'm sure when all is said and
>>> done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises.
>>>
>>
>
>

Matthew
March 22nd 07, 08:19 PM
I have to agree with you on that 1000%

"Cat Protector" > wrote in message
...
> PETA is a radical group and I don't take much stock in what they say. In
> fact, they are nothing more than hypocrites.
>
> --
> Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
> www.catgalaxymedia.com
>
> Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
> www.panthertekit.com
> "Matthew" > wrote in message
> ...
>> PETA has been after IAMS For years nothing new
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ps.com...
>>> On Mar 22, 1:53 pm, wrote:
>>>> On Mar 22, 11:53 am, "Matthew" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I think it is just like the comments were stating fueling the fire
>>>> > and are
>>>> > way out in the numbers. I think HSUS, ASPCA and specially PETA would
>>>> > be
>>>> > going nuts right now if the numbers had gone that high over night.
>>>> > The sick
>>>> > cat part I can see but the deaths the media would be having a frenzy
>>>> > right
>>>> > now
>>>>
>>>> Do you think the owners of these recently deceased animals in MANY of
>>>> these googled news stories aren't for real?http://tinyurl.com/3a3lvw
>>>>
>>>> Food recalls are not an animal cruelty issue, so AR groups aren't yet
>>>> involved much with this crisis.
>>>
>>> Oops Looks like PeTA's just got they're licks in.
>>> http://www.pr-inside.com/peta-calls-for-cruelty-investigation-into-r73704.htm
>>>
>>> PeTA never liked Menu foods anyways.
>>> http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/menu-mfg.html
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Though I'm sure when all is said and
>>>> done, they'll get their "licks" in when the opportunity arises.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Cheryl
March 22nd 07, 10:35 PM
On Thu 22 Mar 2007 10:51:04a, wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav
ups.com>:

> Gasp!
>
> Pet-food recall: Thursday-morning numbers
>>From the PetConnection.com database. 6 a.m. PT:
>
> Total reports of sick or dead pets: 1529
> Deceased pets: 769
> Of those:
>
> Cats, deceased: 460
> Dogs, deceased: 309
> http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-the-
> latest-numbers/
>
>

Since kidney disease is probably one of the number one killer of
cats other than outdoor dangers, I suspect people are falsely
attributing death and illness to this latest pet food
contamination. I really hope I'm wrong about that. I didn't click
the link because it says "blog" in it, and a blog is usually just
someone's opinion or writing with nothing to back it up.

--
Cheryl

Paulette
March 23rd 07, 12:13 AM
You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie Gibson....tonite
a report from the largest animal hospital in New York,, with a huge
increase in acute kidney failure cases; 200 so far for just this one
facility. The vet said it may end up with thousands; many laboratories
across the country are testing the food, no results, but even suspect
residual insecticides Last nite another private vet hospital quoted a
web site (sorry, I didn't catch the name) that listed 250 deaths so far.

Gandalf
March 23rd 07, 12:34 AM
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:58:57 -0700, "Cat Protector"
> wrote:

>PETA is a radical group and I don't take much stock in what they say. In
>fact, they are nothing more than hypocrites.


No kidding:

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

zinzee
March 23rd 07, 01:33 AM
On Mar 22, 8:13 pm, (Paulette) wrote:
> You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie Gibson....tonite
> a report from the largest animal hospital in New York,, with a huge
> increase in acute kidney failure cases; 200 so far for just this one
> facility. The vet said it may end up with thousands; many laboratories
> across the country are testing the food, no results, but even suspect
> residual insecticides Last nite another private vet hospital quoted a
> web site (sorry, I didn't catch the name) that listed 250 deaths so far.

It's the New York Animal Medical Center. They are an amazing place
with a wealth of qualified specialists. They are a teaching hospital,
as well. They are definitely expensive but are open 24 hours and the
staff is very qualified, attentive, and someone is always there
willing to give you answers. They will even quote prices over the
phone and there is nothing wishy-washy about this place. Plus, the
center itself is non-profit. More info at http://www.amcny.org/.

Anyhow, a summary to the article can be found at http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2974319.

Thanks for the post, Paulette!

Best,
Heather

March 23rd 07, 02:15 AM
Pet-food recall: Thursday update
>From the PetConnection.com database. 11:20 a.m. PT:

Total reports of sick or dead pets: 1715
Deceased pets: 845
Of those:

Cats, deceased: 500
Dogs, deceased: 345
http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-thursday-update/


On Mar 22, 9:33 pm, "zinzee" > wrote:
> On Mar 22, 8:13 pm, (Paulette) wrote:
>
> > You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie Gibson....tonite
> > a report from the largest animal hospital in New York,, with a huge
> > increase in acute kidney failure cases; 200 so far for just this one
> > facility. The vet said it may end up with thousands; many laboratories
> > across the country are testing the food, no results, but even suspect
> > residual insecticides Last nite another private vet hospital quoted a
> > web site (sorry, I didn't catch the name) that listed 250 deaths so far.
>
> It's the New York Animal Medical Center. They are an amazing place
> with a wealth of qualified specialists. They are a teaching hospital,
> as well. They are definitely expensive but are open 24 hours and the
> staff is very qualified, attentive, and someone is always there
> willing to give you answers. They will even quote prices over the
> phone and there is nothing wishy-washy about this place. Plus, the
> center itself is non-profit. More info athttp://www.amcny.org/.
>
> Anyhow, a summary to the article can be found athttp://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2974319.
>
> Thanks for the post, Paulette!
>
> Best,
> Heather

Matthew
March 23rd 07, 02:23 AM
Again that is only a BLOG website stating those numbers none have been
confirmed not saying it is not true. But it would have already made
national headlines if the numbers were that high. The media would be having
a field day with it


> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Pet-food recall: Thursday update
>>From the PetConnection.com database. 11:20 a.m. PT:
>
> Total reports of sick or dead pets: 1715
> Deceased pets: 845
> Of those:
>
> Cats, deceased: 500
> Dogs, deceased: 345
> http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-thursday-update/
>
>
> On Mar 22, 9:33 pm, "zinzee" > wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 8:13 pm, (Paulette) wrote:
>>
>> > You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie Gibson....tonite
>> > a report from the largest animal hospital in New York,, with a huge
>> > increase in acute kidney failure cases; 200 so far for just this one
>> > facility. The vet said it may end up with thousands; many laboratories
>> > across the country are testing the food, no results, but even suspect
>> > residual insecticides Last nite another private vet hospital quoted a
>> > web site (sorry, I didn't catch the name) that listed 250 deaths so
>> > far.
>>
>> It's the New York Animal Medical Center. They are an amazing place
>> with a wealth of qualified specialists. They are a teaching hospital,
>> as well. They are definitely expensive but are open 24 hours and the
>> staff is very qualified, attentive, and someone is always there
>> willing to give you answers. They will even quote prices over the
>> phone and there is nothing wishy-washy about this place. Plus, the
>> center itself is non-profit. More info athttp://www.amcny.org/.
>>
>> Anyhow, a summary to the article can be found
>> athttp://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2974319.
>>
>> Thanks for the post, Paulette!
>>
>> Best,
>> Heather
>
>

CatNipped
March 23rd 07, 02:14 PM
"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu 22 Mar 2007 08:13:54p, Paulette wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.health+behav
> >:
>
>> You all should have watched ABC evening news...Charlie
>> Gibson....tonite a report from the largest animal hospital in
>> New York,, with a huge increase in acute kidney failure cases;
>> 200 so far for just this one facility. The vet said it may end
>> up with thousands; many laboratories across the country are
>> testing the food, no results, but even suspect residual
>> insecticides Last nite another private vet hospital quoted a
>> web site (sorry, I didn't catch the name) that listed 250 deaths
>> so far.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for letting us know, Paulette. I wished I'd seen that. I
> wish I knew how prevalent ARF is now, before the MF contamination.
> I'd also like to know the death rate of ARF prior to this latest
> news. I still think that the average person isn't going to look for
> signs of RF until they were told to. Tainted food or not.
>
> --
> Cheryl

Everything I've seen on reputable news sites, newspapers, and television
news says that there are only 10 "confirmed" deaths (9 cats, 1 dog), but one
source quotes Stephen F. Sundlof, director of the FDA's Center for
Veterinary Medicine, "We anticipate those numbers will increase as the
investigation continues. We're getting information constantly, and we're
trying to put all the pieces together."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-petfoods20mar20,1,2840227.story?track=rss

Any time something like this happens rumors start to fly and the story
suddenly gets "bigger". I'm not denying that this is a serious concern for
pet owners, or that it shouldn't be investigated thoroughly, but neither
should it be the cause of major panic.

Hugs,

CatNipped

Lorraine
March 23rd 07, 04:25 PM
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:23:25 -0400, "Matthew"
> wrote:

>Again that is only a BLOG website stating those numbers none have been
>confirmed not saying it is not true. But it would have already made
>national headlines if the numbers were that high. The media would be having
>a field day with it

I thought they already were having a field day. However, I know of two
people locally who have been affected greatly by this fiasco with two
cats gone, and one seriously ill, all kidney problems. All the
illnesses have been recent enough that they still had the tainted food
on their shelves at home. The oldest cat was 9 years old.

I guess that could be a coincidence, but one has to wonder. I don't
know how the product distribution works, but I live fifty-some miles
from the Emporia, KS plant, and perhaps there is a higher concentration
of the bad cans in this area. All in all, throughout the country, I
really don't think those numbers are all that inflated.

L.

Lynne
March 23rd 07, 04:35 PM
on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:25:33 GMT, Lorraine >
wrote:

> I thought they already were having a field day. However, I know of two
> people locally who have been affected greatly by this fiasco with two
> cats gone, and one seriously ill, all kidney problems. All the
> illnesses have been recent enough that they still had the tainted food
> on their shelves at home. The oldest cat was 9 years old.
>
> I guess that could be a coincidence, but one has to wonder. I don't
> know how the product distribution works, but I live fifty-some miles
> from the Emporia, KS plant, and perhaps there is a higher concentration
> of the bad cans in this area. All in all, throughout the country, I
> really don't think those numbers are all that inflated.

I expect the numbers will drastically increase over what is being
reported in the media right now. In fact, I have absolutely no doubt.

The so-called blog website is actually a database of owner reported
cases. The website has disclaimers about the inaccuracy of this type of
reporting and they also encourage people to report to the FDA. I tend to
believe the numbers on this website are closer to being accurate than
what the media is reporting, though I'm also sure they are probably high.
It's obvious the media is reporting the numbers they are getting from
Menu Foods and are WAY low. Can anyone say "DUH?"

This is a ****ing nightmare.

--
Lynne

Matthew
March 23rd 07, 04:43 PM
"Lorraine" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:23:25 -0400, "Matthew"
> > wrote:
>
>>Again that is only a BLOG website stating those numbers none have been
>>confirmed not saying it is not true. But it would have already made
>>national headlines if the numbers were that high. The media would be
>>having
>>a field day with it
>
> I thought they already were having a field day. However, I know of two
> people locally who have been affected greatly by this fiasco with two
> cats gone, and one seriously ill, all kidney problems. All the
> illnesses have been recent enough that they still had the tainted food
> on their shelves at home. The oldest cat was 9 years old.
>
> I guess that could be a coincidence, but one has to wonder. I don't
> know how the product distribution works, but I live fifty-some miles
> from the Emporia, KS plant, and perhaps there is a higher concentration
> of the bad cans in this area. All in all, throughout the country, I
> really don't think those numbers are all that inflated.
>
> L.

As I said "not say it is not true" but I will wait for a reliable and
confirmed source other than a BLOG website before I even consider the
numbers. The ASPCA is working on the stats as we speak to find out the
numbers according to their website.
I know the numbers are going to be high but I will not fall or be gullible
to a site that is a opinion website where opinion other than facts are
stated. In the other groups there are a lot of whacko coming out trying to
get 5 minutes of fame and the possibilities money. Locally we had a news
reporter that came back on the air and apologize for running a spot where a
local lady said her cat died and she had the food still; it was tested it
was not even the same brands that were on the recall and the food was fine.
The lady was screaming she was going to do a lawsuit against the pet
companies now she is under investigation for filing false reports.

My sorrows go out to the ones that have lost and my prayers are for the ones
that are sick

Lynne
March 23rd 07, 06:30 PM
on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:43:38 GMT, "Matthew"
> wrote:

> Locally we had a news
> reporter that came back on the air and apologize for running a spot
> where a local lady said her cat died and she had the food still; it
> was tested it was not even the same brands that were on the recall and
> the food was fine. The lady was screaming she was going to do a
> lawsuit against the pet companies now she is under investigation for
> filing false reports. \

I hatehateHATE people who pull that ****. In fact, HATE isn't a strong
enough word. There are animals and people who love them suffering beyond
description, and then you get these lowlifes pulling this crap... ARGH!

> My sorrows go out to the ones that have lost and my prayers are for
> the ones that are sick

Ditto

--
Lynne

Kittie Kat
March 23rd 07, 07:04 PM
On Mar 23, 11:35 am, Lynne > wrote:
> on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:25:33 GMT, Lorraine >
> wrote:
>
> > I thought they already were having a field day. However, I know of two
> > people locally who have been affected greatly by this fiasco with two
> > cats gone, and one seriously ill, all kidney problems. All the
> > illnesses have been recent enough that they still had the tainted food
> > on their shelves at home. The oldest cat was 9 years old.
>
> > I guess that could be a coincidence, but one has to wonder. I don't
> > know how the product distribution works, but I live fifty-some miles
> > from the Emporia, KS plant, and perhaps there is a higher concentration
> > of the bad cans in this area. All in all, throughout the country, I
> > really don't think those numbers are all that inflated.
>
> I expect the numbers will drastically increase over what is being
> reported in the media right now. In fact, I have absolutely no doubt.
>
> The so-called blog website is actually a database of owner reported
> cases. The website has disclaimers about the inaccuracy of this type of
> reporting and they also encourage people to report to the FDA. I tend to
> believe the numbers on this website are closer to being accurate than
> what the media is reporting, though I'm also sure they are probably high.
> It's obvious the media is reporting the numbers they are getting from
> Menu Foods and are WAY low. Can anyone say "DUH?"
>
> This is a ****ing nightmare.
>
> --
> Lynne

According to the San Fran Chronicle, the FDA has said they don't want
reporting. (Typical of the FDA...they're too busy taking kickbacks)
They supposedly told vets NOT to report. Not interested I guess.

Now that they know the culprit, I hope there's a way to test batches
of food. Won't surprise me to see more foods added to the list.

Lynne
March 23rd 07, 07:30 PM
on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:04:46 GMT, "Kittie Kat" >
wrote:

> (Typical of the FDA...they're too busy taking kickbacks)

you hit that nail on the head. <spit>

--
Lynne

Cheryl
March 24th 07, 01:56 AM
On Fri 23 Mar 2007 12:35:21p, Lynne wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav
m>:

> It's obvious the media is reporting the numbers they are getting
> from Menu Foods and are WAY low. Can anyone say "DUH?"
>

Menu food is only attributing the cats and the dog that were part of
a taste test, and they eliminated at least one death because the cat
(s) were indoor/outdoor, thus it can't be proven that they didn't get
poisoned from something other than food. Tis true, but unfortunate
that it can't be proven.

--
Cheryl

buglady
March 24th 07, 03:11 PM
"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> > http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/22/pet-food-recall-the-
I didn't click
> the link because it says "blog" in it, and a blog is usually just
> someone's opinion or writing with nothing to back it up.

Pet Connection is Dr. Mary Becker site. Becker is the vet they talk to on
Today show.

buglady
take out the dog before replying

Cheryl
March 24th 07, 10:55 PM
On Sat 24 Mar 2007 11:11:38a, buglady wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav
link.net>:

> Pet Connection is Dr. Mary Becker site. Becker is the vet they
> talk to on Today show.

Cool, thanks. I'll check it out.

--
Cheryl