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Lump
December 4th 07, 02:13 AM
I am sorry to bother you all again. You were so kind to me when my
cat, Madeleine, got sick and then died early this year. I haven't
contributed anything, really. I feel like i don't know anything
anymore.

Madsie's sister, Grendel, is still with me. Grendel is fifteen years
old but has now been diagnosed with a herpes virus. We found this out
when i became concerned because of how she was sneezing and had
symptoms very like what i remember Madeleine having. Her chest just
sounded congested, so we took her to the vet and that is when he
diagnosed the virus. He prescribed antibiotics for her, too and gave
her an antibiotic shot. I realize that antibiotics don't cure the
virus but that perhaps they get rid of any other infection she might
have?

Well, i am very worried because Grendel actually seems worse than she
was before. It's been a few days and i don't have a good feeling.

I should also mention that she has early stage CRF and we feed her
special food because of that.

So, with that information, there are some things i am wondering and
worrying about.

Can antiobiotics make a cat very sick? I know from my own personal
experience that the ones for humans can make me feel a little sick but
nothing really extraordinary. Ever since she came back from the vet
it is hard to get her to eat and we have reluctantly force fed her so
that she will have nutrition and so that we can give her the
antibiotics with something in her stomach. She does still drink on
her own but not as much as she usually does.

She just hasn't seemed like herself since she came back from the vet.
I would have expected to see at least a little improvement by now.

I know antibiotics are not supposed to be stopped, but i am really
afraid they're making her sick. I know i am not a doctor but my
observation is that, before we took her to the vet, she did had those
sniffly, congested symptoms, but she was herself, alert, trotting
around, happy... but since the vet visit, the shot, and giving her the
antibiotics, she has gotten much worse. She is very lethargic and
eats hardly anything, she is starting to be afraid of us because of
the force feeding and having to force the antibiotics, too. (We've
tried different forms back in the past, the liquid with the dropper,
the pills and the pill pockets. She actually liked the pill pockets
at first but got to where she hated them. We hid this morning's pill
in some butter and it actually worked relatively well, for her.)

Anywa, the less she eats the weaker she gets. The more we force feed
her, the more she hides and is afraid. It breaks my heart to see her
so stressed out. That is how she seems, very stressed out like she
just wants to be left alone, when normally, she is an extremely lovey-
dovey, cuddley, and energetic cat.

I am going to take her to a different vet if she is not improved
tomorrow. I am starting not to trust our main vet.

I guess my main questions are, could the antibiotics actually be
making her worse? And is there anything i should ask my vet about,
any special meds, or any exams, any ideas at all?

I feel so stupid because i have been taking care of cats all my life.
I have never had such bad experiences as with Madeleine, and now with
Grendel. I used to feel like i always knew what was going on but now
i am perplexed and feel like i know nothing at all.

I still have not gotten over Madeleine's death this year, i doubt that
i ever will, and i am feeling very scared, wary, and suspicious. If
Grendel gets any worse, of course i will do everything i can for her,
but i don't know how i am going to handle myself. I love her with all
my heart and i am afraid of making a mistake.

If anyone has any knowledge or ideas, i would be so grateful to know.

Thank you all again.

Lump
December 5th 07, 07:09 PM
I meant to post last night but was so tired.

I want to thank you both for replying. Cindy, thank you so much for
all the details, you're so kind to take the time and i appreciate it
and am grateful to you.

Grendel is so much better. The night i posted, i had such a bad
feeling and i was afraid to give her the antibiotic so i didn't.
Yesterday morning she seemed a little better and we got her into the
other vet yesterday afternoon, by which time she seemed even more
improved. He is so much more thorough than the vet we usually go to
and, as i mentioned before, i don't trust our regular vet anymore.

He said there are a lot of things that could be going on and i'm
afraid i am too tired to even remember it all. Basically, though,
after checking her over, he said she seemed well and didn't appear to
have any infections and that it was okay to stop giving her the
antibiotics. He said if she didn't seem fully well this morning to
bring her back.

Well, last night she was back to her old self. Meowing, trotting
around, purring and with the look in her face. She definitely has her
appetite back, as if she's trying to make up for all the time she
couldn't eat. This morning, she is her usual cuddly self and seems
happy and well. :)

Thank you again! <3

Sheelagh>\o\
December 6th 07, 04:21 PM
On 5 Dec, 19:09, Lump > wrote:
> I meant to post last night but was so tired.
>
> I want to thank you both for replying. Cindy, thank you so much for
> all the details, you're so kind to take the time and i appreciate it
> and am grateful to you.
>
> Grendel is so much better. The night i posted, i had such a bad
> feeling and i was afraid to give her the antibiotic so i didn't.
> Yesterday morning she seemed a little better and we got her into the
> other vet yesterday afternoon, by which time she seemed even more
> improved. He is so much more thorough than the vet we usually go to
> and, as i mentioned before, i don't trust our regular vet anymore.
>
> He said there are a lot of things that could be going on and i'm
> afraid i am too tired to even remember it all. Basically, though,
> after checking her over, he said she seemed well and didn't appear to
> have any infections and that it was okay to stop giving her the
> antibiotics. He said if she didn't seem fully well this morning to
> bring her back.
>
> Well, last night she was back to her old self. Meowing, trotting
> around, purring and with the look in her face. She definitely has her
> appetite back, as if she's trying to make up for all the time she
> couldn't eat. This morning, she is her usual cuddly self and seems
> happy and well. :)
>
> Thank you again! <3

Hi Lump,

It is great to see you around again. I'm just sorry that it isn't
under better circumstances. I have been away for just under a week, so
only just read your post.
I'm delighted to hear that you took Cindy & Matthew's advice because
it is very good advice. We are also very pleased to her that you do
trust your current vet. this can be a very important factor when it
comes to allowing someone to treat your precious little Grendel. Go
with your gut feeling & follow his/ her advice. The more comfortable
you feel, the easier it is to talk to them about your hopes & fears.
They will understand how important this is to you, also once this is
achieved, you can trust them implicitly.

To hear that Grendel has got over this little Blip is excellent.
Please don't allow yourself to become too worried, simply because her
sister, Madeleine, had a similar experience. It is all too easy to
become convinced that you will go over old ground, because the
symptoms are somewhat similar. In 90% of cases, it might not be the
same thing at all.

Personally, I think you already knew what you needed to do, & you went
with your instinct's, which resulted in how well she seems today. Well
done :o)

Keep us posted with how things are going, when you have the time to if
you wouldn't mind of course? Also, thank you for sharing this news
about Grendel too.
Warm Regards,
Sheelagh >"o"<