Phil P. wrote:
> "cindys" > wrote in message
>> "Phil P." > wrote in message
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>> > "jjg" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> My 14 yo tomcat has a problem. He has been diagnosed by the vet, and
>> >> he
>> > (the
>> >> vet) recommends less protein.
>> > Your vet is about 10 years behind current research in cats with CRF.
>> > Sounds
>> > like he's been educated in CRF by a pet food manufacturer's rep so
>> > he'll push renal diets on his clients. The knee-jerk practice of
>> > restricting protein in CRF cats was based on outdated studies in
>> > Fischer rats that
>> > genetically predisposed to develop CRF as they get older. Its now
>> > known that the things that speed up the progression of CRF in the rat
>> > don't
>> > the same effect in the cat.
>> I agree with you Phil (not that you need me to grant you credibility).
>> Alex was diagnosed with CRF, my vet at the time also tried to push the
>> low protein thing. No way Jose. Cats are obligate carnivores and need
>> protein. So, I searched for a canned food that had an average protein
>> content (not high, not low) but with low phosphorous. Believe it or not,
>> one of the
>> that fit the bill was Science Diet Senior beef and chicken flavors. It's
>> garbage food (in my opinion), but it fit the bill. Another one I used was
>> called NaturalLife (a good quality organic food. The chicken flavor had
>> lowest phosphorus content. Alex preferred the fish flavor which was still
>> quite low in phophorus). Wysong is very high quality food and fits the
>> Unfortunately, Alex didn't like it (but the OP's cat may). Here is a
>> that will enable the OP to compare canned foods for protein and
>> phosphorus content. He should try for average protein but low phosphorus.
>> The second weblink is supposedly "updated" but there are different foods
>> listed on each one. The OP should avoid dry food entirely if at all
>> (no matter what the vet says because canned food provides the water
>> necessary for proper kidney function, which is not matched by what the
>> cat is drinking from the water bowl). Alex still wanted the dry food, so
>> him a small amount (in addition to the canned food) following the same
>> guidelines and picked average protein, low phosphorus dry food. Following
>> the same process as outlined above, check out:
>> I ended up going with one of the Royal Canin indoor formulas and
>> (which also makes a dry food).
>> Another thing the OP can do is get a phosphorus binder, which is aluminum
>> hydroxide, AKA Maalox. The problem is that a kitty will puke from liquid
>> Maalox, so I had to get it in powder form incorporated into a capsule and
>> pill him. I special-ordered it from a veterinary pharmacy in Texas (if
>> anyone wants the name, please e-mail me). You give the cat the capsules
>> the food and this binds up the phosphorus in the food and then it gets
>> excreted, so it's not around to further damage his kidneys. But, warning,
>> these capsules are expensive ($64 for a one month supply).
>> When Alex was diagnosed with CRF, I followed the above plan and his BUN
>> creatinine numbers actually came back down to the point where they were
>> practically within the normal range. The vet was totally amazed! Good
>> luck to the OP. May he have many happy years with his kitty (who can live
>> time even with a CRF diagnosis).
>> Best regards,
>> ----Cindy S.
> You gave a lot of good advice Cindy! I hope the OP follows it.
Well, I will try, at least... one of the problems is that I live in
continental Europe, and the brands that have been mentioned are not in
shops here... But I am giving him more variety of cat food now. And in
fact, he seems to feel better nowadays, since the mice are back. (He is a
real hunter, so I may find one or two remains in the morning.)