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Lee[_3_]
November 25th 08, 08:59 AM
My cat, now getting older (~16) has been prescribed a 'kidney-friendly' diet
by my vet, to help extend kidney lifetime.

The Hills K/D dried food she took to quickly, and eats that no problem. But
the various wet-food veterinary types that I've tried, she really dislikes;
i.e.
Hills K/D (wetter or drier types)
Royal Canin feline
Purina N/F

These are supposed to be easier on the kidneys (lower protein, low in
phosphorous are main things ID'd by the vet), but something about the
processing of this type food she doesn't care for -- and won't eat it.
(Smell, taste, content...? I don't know).

(Friskies regular wet foods, is what she primarily eats/ LIKES).

I've tried Felidae too, recommended by a pet-food specialty shop; but she
didn't care for that either.

So, she'd rather "enjoy" her wet-Fiskies food than switch. I have no good,
quantified idea of how this food really compares to these alternate vet
Kidney formulations. [Is it 20% easier on the kidneys -- e.g. in rate of
nephron loss over time, or 50%, etc.?? Anyone have some solid medical info?
I tried the Hills veterinarian-info website ...but they lock you out, unless
you are a veterinary professional].

The cat does get a daily potassium-gluconate supplement, and amlodipine to
keep her blood pressure low -- which I can easily feed her, mixing in to the
wet food. But not if she won't eat wet food.

Anyone know about this kind on thing? (Renal-damage in relation to food
type, etc.? Nephron loss?)

Thanks,
Lee

bestcatflaps
November 27th 08, 08:17 PM
On Nov 25, 12:59�am, (Lee) wrote:
> My cat, now getting older (~16) has been prescribed a 'kidney-friendly' diet
> by my vet, to help extend kidney lifetime. �
>
> The Hills K/D dried food she took to quickly, and eats that no problem. �But
> the various wet-food veterinary types that I've tried, she really dislikes;
> i.e.
> � �Hills K/D (wetter or drier types)
> � �Royal Canin feline
> � �Purina N/F
>
> These are supposed to be easier on the kidneys (lower protein, low in
> phosphorous are main things ID'd by the vet), but something about the
> processing of this type food she doesn't care for -- and won't eat it. �
> (Smell, taste, content...? �I don't know).
>
> (Friskies regular wet foods, is what she primarily eats/ LIKES).
>
> I've tried Felidae too, recommended by a pet-food specialty shop; but she
> didn't care for that either.
>
> So, she'd rather "enjoy" her wet-Fiskies food than switch. �I have no good,
> quantified idea of how this food really compares to these alternate vet
> Kidney formulations. �[Is it 20% easier on the kidneys -- e.g. in rate of
> nephron loss over time, or 50%, etc.?? �Anyone have some solid medical info?
> �I tried the Hills veterinarian-info website ...but they lock you out, unless
> you are a veterinary professional].
>
> The cat does get a daily potassium-gluconate supplement, and amlodipine to
> keep her blood pressure low -- which I can easily feed her, mixing in to the
> wet food. �But not if she won't eat wet food.
>
> Anyone know about this kind on thing? �(Renal-damage in relation to food
> type, etc.? �Nephron loss?)
>
> Thanks,
> Lee

Hi

Im a Vet Nurse & whiskas/frislies/Felix etx... have too much protein
and I & others believe that these diets are the cause of kidney
failure. They make the food so tasty with the excess salt that cats
won't eat other varieties...The salt are not only giving them kidney
failure but heart disease, liver etc..... (Its like feeding 20
Mcdonalds meals a day! to your child)

Kd, Waltham remal diet is the best but obviously if your cat wont eat
it - we can't haven him starve!! I would contact hills & royal canin/
waltham direct for advise! They will have a veterinay technician to
run through everything with you.

Good luck and I hope your cat is well?

wholecatfan
November 28th 08, 04:32 PM
On Nov 25, 3:59*am, (Lee) wrote:
> My cat, now getting older (~16) has been prescribed a 'kidney-friendly' diet
> by my vet, to help extend kidney lifetime. *
>
> The Hills K/D dried food she took to quickly, and eats that no problem. *But
> the various wet-food veterinary types that I've tried, she really dislikes;
> i.e.
> * *Hills K/D (wetter or drier types)
> * *Royal Canin feline
> * *Purina N/F
>
> These are supposed to be easier on the kidneys (lower protein, low in
> phosphorous are main things ID'd by the vet), but something about the
> processing of this type food she doesn't care for -- and won't eat it. *
> (Smell, taste, content...? *I don't know).
>
> (Friskies regular wet foods, is what she primarily eats/ LIKES).
>
> I've tried Felidae too, recommended by a pet-food specialty shop; but she
> didn't care for that either.
>
> So, she'd rather "enjoy" her wet-Fiskies food than switch. *I have no good,
> quantified idea of how this food really compares to these alternate vet
> Kidney formulations. *[Is it 20% easier on the kidneys -- e.g. in rate of
> nephron loss over time, or 50%, etc.?? *Anyone have some solid medical info?
> *I tried the Hills veterinarian-info website ...but they lock you out, unless
> you are a veterinary professional].
>
> The cat does get a daily potassium-gluconate supplement, and amlodipine to
> keep her blood pressure low -- which I can easily feed her, mixing in to the
> wet food. *But not if she won't eat wet food.
>
> Anyone know about this kind on thing? *(Renal-damage in relation to food
> type, etc.? *Nephron loss?)
>
> Thanks,
> Lee

I've been researching the issue of cat diet and health. I published
what I've been learning at www.wholecatcompany.com/health.html, but
basically, the pet food industry has learned to make cats crave bad
stuff the same way that we human beings have been led to crave sugar
and starch. Weaning your cat off bad food is just as hard, if not
harder, than sticking to fresh, meant-for human consumption food
yourself.

November 29th 08, 04:30 PM
On Nov 25, 3:59�am, (Lee) wrote:
> My cat, now getting older (~16) has been prescribed a 'kidney-friendly' diet
> by my vet, to help extend kidney lifetime. �
>
> The Hills K/D dried food she took to quickly, and eats that no problem. �But
> the various wet-food veterinary types that I've tried, she really dislikes;
> i.e.
> � �Hills K/D (wetter or drier types)
> � �Royal Canin feline
> � �Purina N/F
>
> These are supposed to be easier on the kidneys (lower protein, low in
> phosphorous are main things ID'd by the vet), but something about the
> processing of this type food she doesn't care for -- and won't eat it. �
> (Smell, taste, content...? �I don't know).
>
> (Friskies regular wet foods, is what she primarily eats/ LIKES).
>
> I've tried Felidae too, recommended by a pet-food specialty shop; but she
> didn't care for that either.
>
> So, she'd rather "enjoy" her wet-Fiskies food than switch. �I have no good,
> quantified idea of how this food really compares to these alternate vet
> Kidney formulations. �[Is it 20% easier on the kidneys -- e.g. in rate of
> nephron loss over time, or 50%, etc.?? �Anyone have some solid medical info?
> �I tried the Hills veterinarian-info website ...but they lock you out, unless
> you are a veterinary professional].
>
> The cat does get a daily potassium-gluconate supplement, and amlodipine to
> keep her blood pressure low -- which I can easily feed her, mixing in to the
> wet food. �But not if she won't eat wet food.
>
> Anyone know about this kind on thing? �(Renal-damage in relation to food
> type, etc.? �Nephron loss?)
>
> Thanks,
> Lee

I'd recommend that you join the CRF yahoo group. There's a lot of
people there with lots of good knowledge about foods that are good for
cats with CRF. Maybe you could add water to the dry K/D? That would
help give your cat more moisture which is important for cats with
CRF. Good luck.