Blue food?
 

www.bluebuff.com

Has anyone tried this food? Just saw it appear at the local pet food
stores, and it sounds like a decent food. I'm awaiting a reply from the
company with a detailed nutrient analysis, but in the meantime..

Jon

From: "Jon C"

When I
emailed Blue, I immediately got an email asking for my address. They're
sending me, via actual mail, a complete nutritional breakdown of all of
their foods. I like that, and I'll post the info when it comes in.

Maybe they'll even send you some samples :) When I contacted Nature's Variety
for a friend, they sent me a 10 pound bag of their food as a sample. I thought
that was nice, considering a lot of the pet food companies will only send small
samples.

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Jon C"

When I
emailed Blue, I immediately got an email asking for my address. They're
sending me, via actual mail, a complete nutritional breakdown of all of
their foods. I like that, and I'll post the info when it comes in.

Maybe they'll even send you some samples :) When I contacted Nature's Variety
for a friend, they sent me a 10 pound bag of their food as a sample. I thought
that was nice, considering a lot of the pet food companies will only send small
samples.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

Laura R. wrote:

circa Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:10:26 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
~*Connie*~ ) said,

awful lot of non meat products in there..


Ingredients must, by law, be listed in decreasing proportional order.
That means that the first few ingredients in the list are typically
the bulk of the ingredients, and the fact that this food has 34%
protein minimum for the adult food would indicate that the assumption
that there are an "awful lot of non meat products in there" is not a
rational conclusion to draw.

Laura


Assuming the ingredients listed actually are in decreasing proportional
order is a big mistake. The first ingredient listed is "deboned chicken"
which is chicken with the moisture content. Remove the moisture, which
can be as much as 70% of the weight of the chicken and that ingredient
falls to a lower level on the ingredients list.

The second ingredient being chicken meal, which is chicken without the
moisture, will stay at the same level.

It is very rational for the simple reason the poster was not speaking in
terms of weight, but rather the number of non meat product ingredients
which has nothing to do with weight.

--
"Its the bugs that keep it running."
-Joe Canuck

Laura R. wrote:

circa Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:10:26 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
~*Connie*~ ) said,

awful lot of non meat products in there..


Ingredients must, by law, be listed in decreasing proportional order.
That means that the first few ingredients in the list are typically
the bulk of the ingredients, and the fact that this food has 34%
protein minimum for the adult food would indicate that the assumption
that there are an "awful lot of non meat products in there" is not a
rational conclusion to draw.

Laura


Assuming the ingredients listed actually are in decreasing proportional
order is a big mistake. The first ingredient listed is "deboned chicken"
which is chicken with the moisture content. Remove the moisture, which
can be as much as 70% of the weight of the chicken and that ingredient
falls to a lower level on the ingredients list.

The second ingredient being chicken meal, which is chicken without the
moisture, will stay at the same level.

It is very rational for the simple reason the poster was not speaking in
terms of weight, but rather the number of non meat product ingredients
which has nothing to do with weight.

--
"Its the bugs that keep it running."
-Joe Canuck

From: Laura R.

Ingredients must, by law, be listed in decreasing proportional order.
That means that the first few ingredients in the list are typically
the bulk of the ingredients, and the fact that this food has 34%
protein minimum for the adult food would indicate that the assumption
that there are an "awful lot of non meat products in there" is not a
rational conclusion to draw.

No, the ingredients are listed in decreasing order by their WEIGHT! The
ingredients that WEIGH THE MOST are listed at the top of the ingredient list.
What you posted above was absolute bunk.

Check AAFCO regulations or Small Animal Clinical Nutrition, Vol. IV if you
don't believe me.

From: Laura R.

Ingredients must, by law, be listed in decreasing proportional order.
That means that the first few ingredients in the list are typically
the bulk of the ingredients, and the fact that this food has 34%
protein minimum for the adult food would indicate that the assumption
that there are an "awful lot of non meat products in there" is not a
rational conclusion to draw.

No, the ingredients are listed in decreasing order by their WEIGHT! The
ingredients that WEIGH THE MOST are listed at the top of the ingredient list.
What you posted above was absolute bunk.

Check AAFCO regulations or Small Animal Clinical Nutrition, Vol. IV if you
don't believe me.

From: Laura R.

circa Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:01:57 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Joe Canuck ) said,

Assuming the ingredients listed actually are in decreasing proportional
order is a big mistake.

No, it isn't. It's the law. *DRY* weight isn't the law, but
proportional order *is*.

Laura, Joe is right and you are completely and utterly WRONG.

Let me quote directly from Small Animal Clinical Nutrition, Vol. IV........pg.
153:

"Pet Foods sold in the United States must list each ingredient of the food in
the ingredient statement. Ingredients are listed in descending order by their
predominance by weight according to the product's formula."

"The listof ingredients may be helpful, although it has some shortcomings that
limit its usefulness for evaluating pet foods. The nutritive value of
ingredients cannot be identified from the ingredient statement."

"Manufacturers can also misrepresent the ingredient content of pet foods. A
pet food that lists several different forms of the same ingredient (e.g., wheat
germ meal, wheat middlings, wheat bran, wheat flour) make wheat-based
ingredients appear to be a lower portion of the food than is the fact. Because
ingredients are listed in descending order by weight, this also allows dry
ingredients to appear lower on the list than ingredients that are naturally
high in moisture."

"This same principle is used in dry pet foods where "fresh" meats are
highlighted. The ingredient list may look like this for a lamb and rice dog
food that claims to provide "real lamb meat": lamb, brewers rice, ground yellow
corn, corn gluten meal, oat groats, poultry by-product meal, beef
tallow....Lamb appears first on the ingredient list because its moisture
content is higher than that of the other dry ingredients. The predominant
portion of the food contains a mixture of grains (rice, corn, oats) rather than
"real meat"."

I'll be waiting for you to admit your error. ;)

From: Laura R.

circa Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:01:57 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Joe Canuck ) said,

Assuming the ingredients listed actually are in decreasing proportional
order is a big mistake.

No, it isn't. It's the law. *DRY* weight isn't the law, but
proportional order *is*.

Laura, Joe is right and you are completely and utterly WRONG.

Let me quote directly from Small Animal Clinical Nutrition, Vol. IV........pg.
153:

"Pet Foods sold in the United States must list each ingredient of the food in
the ingredient statement. Ingredients are listed in descending order by their
predominance by weight according to the product's formula."

"The listof ingredients may be helpful, although it has some shortcomings that
limit its usefulness for evaluating pet foods. The nutritive value of
ingredients cannot be identified from the ingredient statement."

"Manufacturers can also misrepresent the ingredient content of pet foods. A
pet food that lists several different forms of the same ingredient (e.g., wheat
germ meal, wheat middlings, wheat bran, wheat flour) make wheat-based
ingredients appear to be a lower portion of the food than is the fact. Because
ingredients are listed in descending order by weight, this also allows dry
ingredients to appear lower on the list than ingredients that are naturally
high in moisture."

"This same principle is used in dry pet foods where "fresh" meats are
highlighted. The ingredient list may look like this for a lamb and rice dog
food that claims to provide "real lamb meat": lamb, brewers rice, ground yellow
corn, corn gluten meal, oat groats, poultry by-product meal, beef
tallow....Lamb appears first on the ingredient list because its moisture
content is higher than that of the other dry ingredients. The predominant
portion of the food contains a mixture of grains (rice, corn, oats) rather than
"real meat"."

I'll be waiting for you to admit your error. ;)