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jmc October 7th 09 11:08 PM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 
Suddenly, without warning, John Ross Mc Master exclaimed (10/7/2009 3:07
PM):
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:16:43 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?


Has anybody in the neighborhood been spraying or fertilizing lawns?
Sending purrs that they will recover and that you discover the cause of
the illness. MLB


Nobody here does more lawn maintenance than mowing. Except me. I
sprayed broadleaf week killer 2 weeks ago. But never anywhere remotely
near the door, maybe 50 feet off. I only sprayed a 2 square foot area.
The Killex got stored away from the cats, who never, ever go outside
anyways.

Good lateral thinking though! There has to be some cause of this mess.
Blood panel results will be in by 6PM Pacific unless something goes
wrong at the lab.


I'm thinking along the same lines - something environmental that they've
all had access to. I'd think if it was a bug or virus, that they'd go
sick at different times.

I'd check your places your cats aren't supposed to be able to get into,
and make sure they haven't.

Is there anyone else with access to the house and cats that might be
able to shed some light? Maybe left a chemicals cabinet open, fed 'em
something they thought would be nice? For that matter, did you feed
them any treats that might be at fault?

Maybe some critter(s) got into the house? I'm not really thinking
skeeters that would bite them, I'm thinking something that they might
think was fun to play with, then eat. Not that I know of any poisonous
bugs offhand.

Please keep us informed. I'm now terribly curious what could be wrong
with your 5 well-cared-for cats!

jmc

John Ross Mc Master October 8th 09 01:23 AM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:08:20 -0400, jmc
wrote:

Suddenly, without warning, John Ross Mc Master exclaimed (10/7/2009 3:07
PM):
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:16:43 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?

Has anybody in the neighborhood been spraying or fertilizing lawns?
Sending purrs that they will recover and that you discover the cause of
the illness. MLB


Nobody here does more lawn maintenance than mowing. Except me. I
sprayed broadleaf week killer 2 weeks ago. But never anywhere remotely
near the door, maybe 50 feet off. I only sprayed a 2 square foot area.
The Killex got stored away from the cats, who never, ever go outside
anyways.

Good lateral thinking though! There has to be some cause of this mess.
Blood panel results will be in by 6PM Pacific unless something goes
wrong at the lab.


I'm thinking along the same lines - something environmental that they've
all had access to. I'd think if it was a bug or virus, that they'd go
sick at different times.

I'd check your places your cats aren't supposed to be able to get into,
and make sure they haven't.

Is there anyone else with access to the house and cats that might be
able to shed some light? Maybe left a chemicals cabinet open, fed 'em
something they thought would be nice? For that matter, did you feed
them any treats that might be at fault?

Maybe some critter(s) got into the house? I'm not really thinking
skeeters that would bite them, I'm thinking something that they might
think was fun to play with, then eat. Not that I know of any poisonous
bugs offhand.

Please keep us informed. I'm now terribly curious what could be wrong
with your 5 well-cared-for cats!

jmc


One of them, Beauty, ( the middle one in age) just vomited up
everything I got her to eat in the last day. I am flushing all her
food down the toilet just in case. The bloodwork on Percy is partial
and shows the organ numbers are fine but some factor indicating
bacterial infection is present.
They are all in different rooms now.

MLB[_2_] October 8th 09 01:46 AM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 
John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:08:20 -0400, jmc
wrote:

Suddenly, without warning, John Ross Mc Master exclaimed (10/7/2009 3:07
PM):
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:16:43 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
Has anybody in the neighborhood been spraying or fertilizing lawns?
Sending purrs that they will recover and that you discover the cause of
the illness. MLB
Nobody here does more lawn maintenance than mowing. Except me. I
sprayed broadleaf week killer 2 weeks ago. But never anywhere remotely
near the door, maybe 50 feet off. I only sprayed a 2 square foot area.
The Killex got stored away from the cats, who never, ever go outside
anyways.

Good lateral thinking though! There has to be some cause of this mess.
Blood panel results will be in by 6PM Pacific unless something goes
wrong at the lab.

I'm thinking along the same lines - something environmental that they've
all had access to. I'd think if it was a bug or virus, that they'd go
sick at different times.

I'd check your places your cats aren't supposed to be able to get into,
and make sure they haven't.

Is there anyone else with access to the house and cats that might be
able to shed some light? Maybe left a chemicals cabinet open, fed 'em
something they thought would be nice? For that matter, did you feed
them any treats that might be at fault?

Maybe some critter(s) got into the house? I'm not really thinking
skeeters that would bite them, I'm thinking something that they might
think was fun to play with, then eat. Not that I know of any poisonous
bugs offhand.

Please keep us informed. I'm now terribly curious what could be wrong
with your 5 well-cared-for cats!

jmc


One of them, Beauty, ( the middle one in age) just vomited up
everything I got her to eat in the last day. I am flushing all her
food down the toilet just in case. The bloodwork on Percy is partial
and shows the organ numbers are fine but some factor indicating
bacterial infection is present.
They are all in different rooms now.



It might be a good idea TO SAVE SOME OF THAT FOOD FOR ANALYSIS if
youdon't determine another cause. best wishes. MLB

John Ross Mc Master October 8th 09 02:06 AM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:46:56 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:08:20 -0400, jmc
wrote:

Suddenly, without warning, John Ross Mc Master exclaimed (10/7/2009 3:07
PM):
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:16:43 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
Has anybody in the neighborhood been spraying or fertilizing lawns?
Sending purrs that they will recover and that you discover the cause of
the illness. MLB
Nobody here does more lawn maintenance than mowing. Except me. I
sprayed broadleaf week killer 2 weeks ago. But never anywhere remotely
near the door, maybe 50 feet off. I only sprayed a 2 square foot area.
The Killex got stored away from the cats, who never, ever go outside
anyways.

Good lateral thinking though! There has to be some cause of this mess.
Blood panel results will be in by 6PM Pacific unless something goes
wrong at the lab.
I'm thinking along the same lines - something environmental that they've
all had access to. I'd think if it was a bug or virus, that they'd go
sick at different times.

I'd check your places your cats aren't supposed to be able to get into,
and make sure they haven't.

Is there anyone else with access to the house and cats that might be
able to shed some light? Maybe left a chemicals cabinet open, fed 'em
something they thought would be nice? For that matter, did you feed
them any treats that might be at fault?

Maybe some critter(s) got into the house? I'm not really thinking
skeeters that would bite them, I'm thinking something that they might
think was fun to play with, then eat. Not that I know of any poisonous
bugs offhand.

Please keep us informed. I'm now terribly curious what could be wrong
with your 5 well-cared-for cats!

jmc


One of them, Beauty, ( the middle one in age) just vomited up
everything I got her to eat in the last day. I am flushing all her
food down the toilet just in case. The bloodwork on Percy is partial
and shows the organ numbers are fine but some factor indicating
bacterial infection is present.
They are all in different rooms now.



It might be a good idea TO SAVE SOME OF THAT FOOD FOR ANALYSIS if
youdon't determine another cause. best wishes. MLB


I read this before I flushed the food still in the bin. I did flush
the food in the bowl.

The youngest one Spring just ate a 1/4 ounce of low-sodium tuna when I
typed the above.

MLB[_2_] October 8th 09 02:52 AM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 
John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:46:56 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:08:20 -0400, jmc
wrote:

Suddenly, without warning, John Ross Mc Master exclaimed (10/7/2009 3:07
PM):
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:16:43 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
Has anybody in the neighborhood been spraying or fertilizing lawns?
Sending purrs that they will recover and that you discover the cause of
the illness. MLB
Nobody here does more lawn maintenance than mowing. Except me. I
sprayed broadleaf week killer 2 weeks ago. But never anywhere remotely
near the door, maybe 50 feet off. I only sprayed a 2 square foot area.
The Killex got stored away from the cats, who never, ever go outside
anyways.

Good lateral thinking though! There has to be some cause of this mess.
Blood panel results will be in by 6PM Pacific unless something goes
wrong at the lab.
I'm thinking along the same lines - something environmental that they've
all had access to. I'd think if it was a bug or virus, that they'd go
sick at different times.

I'd check your places your cats aren't supposed to be able to get into,
and make sure they haven't.

Is there anyone else with access to the house and cats that might be
able to shed some light? Maybe left a chemicals cabinet open, fed 'em
something they thought would be nice? For that matter, did you feed
them any treats that might be at fault?

Maybe some critter(s) got into the house? I'm not really thinking
skeeters that would bite them, I'm thinking something that they might
think was fun to play with, then eat. Not that I know of any poisonous
bugs offhand.

Please keep us informed. I'm now terribly curious what could be wrong
with your 5 well-cared-for cats!

jmc
One of them, Beauty, ( the middle one in age) just vomited up
everything I got her to eat in the last day. I am flushing all her
food down the toilet just in case. The bloodwork on Percy is partial
and shows the organ numbers are fine but some factor indicating
bacterial infection is present.
They are all in different rooms now.


It might be a good idea TO SAVE SOME OF THAT FOOD FOR ANALYSIS if
youdon't determine another cause. best wishes. MLB


I read this before I flushed the food still in the bin. I did flush
the food in the bowl.

The youngest one Spring just ate a 1/4 ounce of low-sodium tuna when I
typed the above.



Another thought: do you have carbon monoxide detectors in your home?
I am asking from personal experience here. It probably would only
need a small amount to affecr little animals. MLB

John Ross Mc Master October 8th 09 03:15 AM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:52:01 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:46:56 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:08:20 -0400, jmc
wrote:

Suddenly, without warning, John Ross Mc Master exclaimed (10/7/2009 3:07
PM):
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:16:43 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
Has anybody in the neighborhood been spraying or fertilizing lawns?
Sending purrs that they will recover and that you discover the cause of
the illness. MLB
Nobody here does more lawn maintenance than mowing. Except me. I
sprayed broadleaf week killer 2 weeks ago. But never anywhere remotely
near the door, maybe 50 feet off. I only sprayed a 2 square foot area.
The Killex got stored away from the cats, who never, ever go outside
anyways.

Good lateral thinking though! There has to be some cause of this mess.
Blood panel results will be in by 6PM Pacific unless something goes
wrong at the lab.
I'm thinking along the same lines - something environmental that they've
all had access to. I'd think if it was a bug or virus, that they'd go
sick at different times.

I'd check your places your cats aren't supposed to be able to get into,
and make sure they haven't.

Is there anyone else with access to the house and cats that might be
able to shed some light? Maybe left a chemicals cabinet open, fed 'em
something they thought would be nice? For that matter, did you feed
them any treats that might be at fault?

Maybe some critter(s) got into the house? I'm not really thinking
skeeters that would bite them, I'm thinking something that they might
think was fun to play with, then eat. Not that I know of any poisonous
bugs offhand.

Please keep us informed. I'm now terribly curious what could be wrong
with your 5 well-cared-for cats!

jmc
One of them, Beauty, ( the middle one in age) just vomited up
everything I got her to eat in the last day. I am flushing all her
food down the toilet just in case. The bloodwork on Percy is partial
and shows the organ numbers are fine but some factor indicating
bacterial infection is present.
They are all in different rooms now.

It might be a good idea TO SAVE SOME OF THAT FOOD FOR ANALYSIS if
youdon't determine another cause. best wishes. MLB


I read this before I flushed the food still in the bin. I did flush
the food in the bowl.

The youngest one Spring just ate a 1/4 ounce of low-sodium tuna when I
typed the above.



Another thought: do you have carbon monoxide detectors in your home?
I am asking from personal experience here. It probably would only
need a small amount to affecr little animals. MLB


I have 2 CO detectors, one on each floor. I bought them after a
co-worker's parents were killed by a faulty furnace.

MLB[_2_] October 8th 09 03:19 AM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 
John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:52:01 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:46:56 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:08:20 -0400, jmc
wrote:

Suddenly, without warning, John Ross Mc Master exclaimed (10/7/2009 3:07
PM):
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:16:43 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
Has anybody in the neighborhood been spraying or fertilizing lawns?
Sending purrs that they will recover and that you discover the cause of
the illness. MLB
Nobody here does more lawn maintenance than mowing. Except me. I
sprayed broadleaf week killer 2 weeks ago. But never anywhere remotely
near the door, maybe 50 feet off. I only sprayed a 2 square foot area.
The Killex got stored away from the cats, who never, ever go outside
anyways.

Good lateral thinking though! There has to be some cause of this mess.
Blood panel results will be in by 6PM Pacific unless something goes
wrong at the lab.
I'm thinking along the same lines - something environmental that they've
all had access to. I'd think if it was a bug or virus, that they'd go
sick at different times.

I'd check your places your cats aren't supposed to be able to get into,
and make sure they haven't.

Is there anyone else with access to the house and cats that might be
able to shed some light? Maybe left a chemicals cabinet open, fed 'em
something they thought would be nice? For that matter, did you feed
them any treats that might be at fault?

Maybe some critter(s) got into the house? I'm not really thinking
skeeters that would bite them, I'm thinking something that they might
think was fun to play with, then eat. Not that I know of any poisonous
bugs offhand.

Please keep us informed. I'm now terribly curious what could be wrong
with your 5 well-cared-for cats!

jmc
One of them, Beauty, ( the middle one in age) just vomited up
everything I got her to eat in the last day. I am flushing all her
food down the toilet just in case. The bloodwork on Percy is partial
and shows the organ numbers are fine but some factor indicating
bacterial infection is present.
They are all in different rooms now.
It might be a good idea TO SAVE SOME OF THAT FOOD FOR ANALYSIS if
youdon't determine another cause. best wishes. MLB
I read this before I flushed the food still in the bin. I did flush
the food in the bowl.

The youngest one Spring just ate a 1/4 ounce of low-sodium tuna when I
typed the above.


Another thought: do you have carbon monoxide detectors in your home?
I am asking from personal experience here. It probably would only
need a small amount to affecr little animals. MLB


I have 2 CO detectors, one on each floor. I bought them after a
co-worker's parents were killed by a faulty furnace.



If it were CO then fresh air should make them improve., Best wishes. MLB

cybercat October 8th 09 09:51 AM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 

"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:27:39 -0400, "cybercat"
wrote:


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote

Anyone have an idea?



If they are indoor cats why do they need Revolution?


In case I track in fleas and it also protects against heartworm. We
have mosquitoes here.


I see. I really hope they all get better soon.



cl October 8th 09 10:27 AM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 
John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?


If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time.
It really sounds like poisoning.

John Ross Mc Master October 9th 09 01:33 AM

Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick
 
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?


If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time.
It really sounds like poisoning.



The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?


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