On 20 May 2005 15:19:28 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:

wrote:
Rudy Canoza wrote:
dh@. wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza
wrote:

gay merrington wrote:

Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly
not
in
a way we
as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride.

What do you think prevents them from experiencing
simple things like that?

I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential
calculus or studying philosophy, ****wit: the lack of human
capacity.


So any human can do those things?

No, but ONLY humans can.

I know some people who can't even
take simple derivatives, is that due to lack of human capacity?


As yet we have no reason
to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger,
or envy, or fear.

Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride,
****wit - they give no evidence of it. I think you also can't
experience it, ****wit, because you have nothing in your life of
which to be proud.

Perhaps you have never experienced pride if you cannot recognize it
in
others.

I've experienced it myself and recognized it in others.



A mother is proud of her offspring, proud of her abilitiy to care for
them.

Non human animal mothers are not. Their only connection to their
offspring is feeding them and protecting them.

You're just too stupid to recognize anything else Goo. There are
lots of other connections. Even birds teach things to their young.
You are so out of touch you don't have any clue at all what the
hell you're trying to discuss. Pride is no harder to experience than
anger, but for some stupid retarded reason you believe it is. That
is only one of many examples of how stupid you are Goober. You
are a moronic clown who "thinks" he's a genius. Your only humor
is in your own stupidity, which is often pathetic but hilarious. In this
particular case so far it's just pathetic, because you're not able to
think enough about it to explain what what you believe restricts all
nonhuman animals from experiencing simple basic emotions.

dh@. wrote:

On 18 May 2005 12:01:13 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:


wrote:

Rudy Canoza wrote:

gay merrington wrote:


Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not

in

a way we

as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. Humans *project*
those emotions onto animals, because those are the
emotions humans might feel if they had been in some
situation in which they see animals.



In fact no other humans experience those emotions either, only Rudy.
Humans *project* Rudy's emotions onto each other, because those are the
emotions Rudy might feel if he had been in some situation in which we
see each other.

Not an adult response.


That's the point

Yes. Shevvie did not make an adult response. Neither
did you.

dh@. wrote:

On 20 May 2005 11:16:44 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:


dh@. wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:


gay merrington wrote:


Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in

a way we

as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride.

What do you think prevents them from experiencing
simple things like that?

I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential
calculus or studying philosophy,


How stupid of you.

No, stupid ****wit.


****wit: the lack of human capacity.


As yet we have no reason
to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger,
or envy, or fear.

Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride,


We have none.

We have ample reason, ****wit: they give no evidence
of it.


****wit - they give no evidence of it.


Some of them give plenty of evidence of it.

None of them give ANY evidence of it.


I think you also can't
experience it, ****wit, because you have nothing in your life of which
to be proud.


I can be proud that I have defined you

You haven't defined me, ****wit. I have defined you.
Completely.

dh@. wrote:

On 20 May 2005 15:19:28 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:


wrote:

Rudy Canoza wrote:

dh@. wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza

wrote:

gay merrington wrote:


Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly

not

in

a way we

as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride.

What do you think prevents them from experiencing
simple things like that?

I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential
calculus or studying philosophy, ****wit: the lack of human
capacity.


So any human can do those things?

No, but ONLY humans can.


I know some people who can't even
take simple derivatives, is that due to lack of human capacity?


As yet we have no reason
to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger,
or envy, or fear.

Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride,
****wit - they give no evidence of it. I think you also can't
experience it, ****wit, because you have nothing in your life of
which to be proud.

Perhaps you have never experienced pride if you cannot recognize it

in

others.

I've experienced it myself and recognized it in others.



A mother is proud of her offspring, proud of her abilitiy to care for
them.

Non human animal mothers are not. Their only connection to their
offspring is feeding them and protecting them.


You're just too stupid

I'm not stupid about anything, ****wit, and you know
it. YOU are stupid, though: you barely finished high
school, you didn't attend university, and you make your
living doing menial bull**** work. That's the picture
of southern redneck stupidity.

On Sat, 21 May 2005 20:31:21 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:

dh@. wrote:

On 20 May 2005 15:19:28 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:


wrote:

Rudy Canoza wrote:

dh@. wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza

wrote:

gay merrington wrote:


Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly

not

in

a way we

as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride.

What do you think prevents them from experiencing
simple things like that?

I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential
calculus or studying philosophy, ****wit: the lack of human
capacity.


So any human can do those things?

No, but ONLY humans can.


I know some people who can't even
take simple derivatives, is that due to lack of human capacity?


As yet we have no reason
to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger,
or envy, or fear.

Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride,
****wit - they give no evidence of it. I think you also can't
experience it, ****wit, because you have nothing in your life of
which to be proud.

Perhaps you have never experienced pride if you cannot recognize it

in

others.

I've experienced it myself and recognized it in others.



A mother is proud of her offspring, proud of her abilitiy to care for
them.

Non human animal mothers are not. Their only connection to their
offspring is feeding them and protecting them.


You're just too stupid

I'm not stupid about anything

You lost that one too.

On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:42:41 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:

dh@. wrote:

On 18 May 2005 12:01:13 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:


wrote:

Rudy Canoza wrote:

gay merrington wrote:


Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not

in

a way we

as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. Humans *project*
those emotions onto animals, because those are the
emotions humans might feel if they had been in some
situation in which they see animals.



In fact no other humans experience those emotions either, only Rudy.
Humans *project* Rudy's emotions onto each other, because those are the
emotions Rudy might feel if he had been in some situation in which we
see each other.

Not an adult response.


That's the point

Yes. Shevvie did not make an adult response. Neither
did you.

You lost that one Goo.

On Sat, 21 May 2005 20:30:18 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:

dh@. wrote:

On 20 May 2005 11:16:44 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:


dh@. wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:


gay merrington wrote:


Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in

a way we

as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride.

What do you think prevents them from experiencing
simple things like that?

I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential
calculus or studying philosophy,


How stupid of you.

No, stupid ****wit.


****wit: the lack of human capacity.


As yet we have no reason
to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger,
or envy, or fear.

Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride,


We have none.

We have ample reason, ****wit: they give no evidence
of it.


****wit - they give no evidence of it.


Some of them give plenty of evidence of it.

None of them give ANY evidence of it.

And you lose again.

I think you also can't
experience it, ****wit, because you have nothing in your life of which
to be proud.


I can be proud that I have defined you

You haven't defined me, ****wit.

That's a lie Goober.

I have defined you.
Completely.

dh@. wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:42:41 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:


dh@. wrote:


On 18 May 2005 12:01:13 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:



wrote:


Rudy Canoza wrote:


gay merrington wrote:



Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not

in


a way we


as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride. Humans *project*
those emotions onto animals, because those are the
emotions humans might feel if they had been in some
situation in which they see animals.



In fact no other humans experience those emotions either, only Rudy.
Humans *project* Rudy's emotions onto each other, because those are the
emotions Rudy might feel if he had been in some situation in which we
see each other.

Not an adult response.


That's the point

Yes. Shevvie did not make an adult response. Neither
did you.


You lost

I won. You and Shevvie did not make adult responses.
You never do.

dh@. wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2005 20:30:18 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:


dh@. wrote:


On 20 May 2005 11:16:44 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:



dh@. wrote:


On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:



gay merrington wrote:



Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in

a way we


as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride.

What do you think prevents them from experiencing
simple things like that?

I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential
calculus or studying philosophy,


How stupid of you.

No, stupid ****wit.



****wit: the lack of human capacity.



As yet we have no reason
to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger,
or envy, or fear.

Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride,


We have none.

We have ample reason, ****wit: they give no evidence
of it.



****wit - they give no evidence of it.


Some of them give plenty of evidence of it.

None of them give ANY evidence of it.


And you lose again.


I think you also can't
experience it, ****wit, because you have nothing in your life of which
to be proud.


I can be proud that I have defined you

You haven't defined me, ****wit.


That's a lie

Nope. It's the truth. I have defined you. You are
****wit, and everyone thinks of you as ****wit, and in
exactly the way I have fashioned.



I have defined you.
Completely.

dh@. wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2005 20:30:18 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:


dh@. wrote:


On 20 May 2005 11:16:44 -0700, "Rudy Canoza" wrote:



dh@. wrote:


On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:



gay merrington wrote:



Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in

a way we


as humans understand.

Primitive emotions: fear, aggression, anger. They do
NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,
Schadenfreude, exultance, pride.

What do you think prevents them from experiencing
simple things like that?

I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential
calculus or studying philosophy,


How stupid of you.

No, stupid ****wit.



****wit: the lack of human capacity.



As yet we have no reason
to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger,
or envy, or fear.

Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride,


We have none.

We have ample reason, ****wit: they give no evidence
of it.



****wit - they give no evidence of it.


Some of them give plenty of evidence of it.

None of them give ANY evidence of it.


And you lose again.

No, ****wit. NO non-human animals give ANY evidence of
experiencing pride. ZERO. Just like you, ****wit - a
ZERO.