Omega 3 oil for crf cat
Has anyone with cats with kidney disease tried omega 3 oils? in particular,
"Astro Oil"? The food I use for my crf cat has omega 3's in it but I am wondering if I should be giving her more than what's in her food. Thanks, Riannon -- Message posted via http://www.catkb.com |
Omega 3 oil for crf cat
"Riannon via CatKB.com" u42022@uwe wrote in message news:8304f226b8100@uwe... Has anyone with cats with kidney disease tried omega 3 oils? I give all my cats omega-3 supplements. I've been giving omega-3s along with a potassium supplement to my 23 and 15 y/o CRF cats for 5 yrs. Their BUN/Cr. have not only remained stable but have actually improved to just a tad above the normal range. Their USG have also improved. I wholeheartedly recommend n-3s for all cats and n-3s along with a potassium supplement for all cats over 8 or 9. I'm convinced n-3s with a potassium supplement delays the onset of CRF. in particular, "Astro Oil"? I highly recommend DVM Pharmaceutical's 3V Free Form Liquid Omega-3s. The bioavailability of free form n-3s is much higher because they're absorbed without metabolism-- IOW, they don't require breakdown by pancreatic enzymes. 3Vs are also balanced with vitamin E to prevent oxidation. The food I use for my crf cat has omega 3's in it but I am wondering if I should be giving her more than what's in her food. A 5-10 cat should get ~160 mg of EPA and ~104 mg of DHA. Phil |
Omega 3 oil for crf cat
Phil P. wrote:
I give all my cats omega-3 supplements. I've been giving omega-3s along with a potassium supplement to my 23 and 15 y/o CRF cats for 5 yrs. Their 23? Wow. That's great. I can only hope mine make it to that age - have a 15 yr old that's had crf for 6 years, a 15 1/2 yr old with very early signs of crf and hyper-T, and a 9 1/2 yr old that I have yet to get a senior blood panel for but should be doing soon (I'm dreading this as he suffers extreme panic there and will bite; I don't see how they'll be able to draw his blood). BUN/Cr. have not only remained stable but have actually improved to just a tad above the normal range. Their USG have also improved. I wholeheartedly recommend n-3s for all cats and n-3s along with a potassium supplement for all cats over 8 or 9. I'm convinced n-3s with a potassium supplement delays Very impressive. I will have to discuss potassium supplementation with my vet again. I did once recently but she thought that her potassium was fine (4) for the time being. I highly recommend DVM Pharmaceutical's 3V Free Form Liquid Omega-3s. The bioavailability of free form n-3s is much higher because they're absorbed without metabolism-- IOW, they don't require breakdown by pancreatic Will try and locate those. A 5-10 cat should get ~160 mg of EPA and ~104 mg of DHA. Thanks for the info. Riannon -- Message posted via CatKB.com http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...ealth/200804/1 |
Omega 3 oil for crf cat
Riannon wrote:
I highly recommend DVM Pharmaceutical's 3V Free Form Liquid Omega-3s. The bioavailability of free form n-3s is much higher because they're absorbed without metabolism-- IOW, they don't require breakdown by pancreatic Will try and locate those. A 5-10 cat should get ~160 mg of EPA and ~104 mg of DHA. Here's 2 quick links of sources for the 3V liquid form, you'll probably be able to find others if necessary: http://www.medi-vet.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=81 product # 10812 http://www.1800petmeds.com/3V+Caps-prod2841.html product # 2842 I'm in Canada & certain supplements can't be obtained here. I've ordered & received whatever my cats have needed from US suppliers without any problems - specifically Dermcaps liquid for one of my cats who has an allergic-skin condition that breaks out over his eyes if he's not on this stuff. When this was discontinued here, my vet suggested twice yearly steroid injections but no thanks, the oil added to his food is far easier & no stress. Here's a picture of this boy, Coco. http://pets.webshots.com/photo/23904...50028271dkzBcX Best of luck, M. -- Message posted via CatKB.com http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...ealth/200804/1 |
Omega 3 oil for crf cat
mariib wrote:
Here's 2 quick links of sources for the 3V liquid form, you'll probably be able to find others if necessary: http://www.medi-vet.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=81 product # 10812 http://www.1800petmeds.com/3V+Caps-prod2841.html product # 2842 Thanks very much. was discontinued here, my vet suggested twice yearly steroid injections but Yup, seems to be what they immediately suggest for skin problems. I don't blame you for passing that up - I wouldn't want steroids injected into my cats either. picture of this boy, Coco. http://pets.webshots.com/photo/23904...50028271dkzBcX What a cutey! Riannon -- Message posted via CatKB.com http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...ealth/200804/1 |
Omega 3 oil for crf cat
"Riannon via CatKB.com" u42022@uwe wrote in message news:8317b2d2496d0@uwe... Very impressive. I will have to discuss potassium supplementation with my vet again. I did once recently but she thought that her potassium was fine (4) for the time being. Old school thinking. 4 is too low. You want to keep the cat's serum potassium levels in the upper half of the normal range so that the cat will still be able to maintain normal serum potassium levels when the body stores of potassium are low or when there is a shift in potassium from ECF to ICF. There is no risk of hyperkalemia as long as the cat is urinating. Most CRF cats are polyuric and don't become oliguric until the terminal stages. Phil |
Omega 3 oil for crf cat
Phil P. wrote:
Old school thinking. 4 is too low. You want to keep the cat's serum potassium levels in the upper half of the normal range so that the cat will still be able to maintain normal serum potassium levels when the body stores of potassium are low or when there is a shift in potassium from ECF to ICF. Thanks Phil, I'll have to speak with her again. I've been hearing from others too that their vets didn't recommend potassium supplementation for their crf cats, even ones who have a lower number than mine. I wonder why so many are not up to date on this. When I hear what other people are doing, sometimes I feel like I'm not doing enough; all I do is give her kidney food. One of the vets where I go had suggested Fortekor a few years ago and I turned it down, thinking that my Missy would just be a guinea pig for it as I thought it was too new on the market for cats. Now it'll probably turn out that it works wonders or something and I'll have missed out on it as it's a little late to try it now that her creatinine is over 5 (I've read it could raise creatinine and should be started when it's lower than that). Sigh. Riannon -- Message posted via http://www.catkb.com |
Omega 3 oil for crf cat
"Riannon via CatKB.com" u42022@uwe wrote in message news:8330c810d668a@uwe... Phil P. wrote: Old school thinking. 4 is too low. You want to keep the cat's serum potassium levels in the upper half of the normal range so that the cat will still be able to maintain normal serum potassium levels when the body stores of potassium are low or when there is a shift in potassium from ECF to ICF. Thanks Phil, I'll have to speak with her again. I've been hearing from others too that their vets didn't recommend potassium supplementation for their crf cats, even ones who have a lower number than mine. I wonder why so many are not up to date on this. Because there are more mediocre vets around than good ones. Serum potassium levels are not a good indicator of total body potassium stores because 98% of the total body stores of potassium are contained in tissue- not the blood or serum. A cat can have normal or low-normal serum potassium levels while the total body stores of potassium are low or depleted. In fact body potassium depletion can occur well before the onset of hypokalemia. The principal of giving potassium supplements to renal cats is the same reason potassium supplements are giving to patients reeceiving fluid therapy. Fluid therapy produces urine rapidly. Rapid urine formation promotes potassium excretion. Renal cats are polyuric and polydipsic which also produces urine rapidly and promotes potassium excretion. Phil |
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