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No One But Me August 20th 03 12:06 AM

turning a male cat into a female
 
Blankthis morning i took my cat, Joey (3 yrs old), to the vet for urinary
crystals. this is the second time in 2 months. in order to get a catheter in
to drain his bladder which was completely full, they had to sedate him ...
and even then it took 1 hour just to get the catheter in!

when i talked to the vet this afternoon, she said Joey was a good candidate
for an operation which will relieve him of the crystals but which will turn
him into a girl. said he would never again have this problem if he had that
operation. i told her that i wanted to give him that operation and she said
she would make arrangements for it when Joey gets better & is no longer
inflamed.

has anyone ever heard of this?

barbara



Arjun Ray August 20th 03 02:42 AM

In , "No One But Me"
wrote:

| Blankthis morning i took my cat, Joey (3 yrs old), to the vet for
| urinary crystals.

What did you expect, mutilator? Feeeding crap food was "in the
contract", wasn't it?

| this is the second time in 2 months.

And you think it couldn't possibly be your fault, right?

| when i talked to the vet this afternoon, she said Joey was a good
| candidate for an operation which will relieve him of the crystals
| but which will turn him into a girl.

Vaguely, only in terms of how the urethra connects to the outside. The
urethra above the penis is reconnected to a new opening just below the
anus. It's called Perineal Urethrostomy:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+S earch

There may be a period of incontinence while he learns sphincter control
with new muscles.

PU is a last hope procedure for chronically blocked FLUTD cases, which
is not restricted to just those prone to developing crystals.

If crystals are the problem in such a *young* cat, chances are that
talking to a nutritionist would be the wisest course.

Or maybe that isn't in the contract?

--
"in order to have a home, food in your bowl, water to drink, regular
medical care, and an owner to take care of them & love them, prices
have to be paid. i don't think my cats hate the price (declawing)
they paid for a home." -- Barbara Peale's contractarian "defence"
of declawing in

Arjun Ray August 20th 03 02:42 AM

In , "No One But Me"
wrote:

| Blankthis morning i took my cat, Joey (3 yrs old), to the vet for
| urinary crystals.

What did you expect, mutilator? Feeeding crap food was "in the
contract", wasn't it?

| this is the second time in 2 months.

And you think it couldn't possibly be your fault, right?

| when i talked to the vet this afternoon, she said Joey was a good
| candidate for an operation which will relieve him of the crystals
| but which will turn him into a girl.

Vaguely, only in terms of how the urethra connects to the outside. The
urethra above the penis is reconnected to a new opening just below the
anus. It's called Perineal Urethrostomy:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+S earch

There may be a period of incontinence while he learns sphincter control
with new muscles.

PU is a last hope procedure for chronically blocked FLUTD cases, which
is not restricted to just those prone to developing crystals.

If crystals are the problem in such a *young* cat, chances are that
talking to a nutritionist would be the wisest course.

Or maybe that isn't in the contract?

--
"in order to have a home, food in your bowl, water to drink, regular
medical care, and an owner to take care of them & love them, prices
have to be paid. i don't think my cats hate the price (declawing)
they paid for a home." -- Barbara Peale's contractarian "defence"
of declawing in

[email protected] August 20th 03 08:44 AM

Barbara wrote:

when i talked to the vet this afternoon,
she said Joey was a good candidate for
an operation which will relieve him of the
crystals


The operation will NOT relieve him of crystals. It will only make him
less likely to block. A vet that would recommend such a drastic measure
when other things have not yet been tried is an idiot and you should be
looking for a new vet. This operation is a *last resort* which should be
considered *only* after all other options fail. You aren't even there
yet.
Using a high quality canned food only diet that is supplemented with an
acidifier in tablet form is a better option that doesn't involve such
drastic measures.

but which will turn him into a girl.
said he would never again have this
problem if he had that operation.


That's not true. It will NOT resolve the crystal problems, and will only
lessen chances of a blockage. You need to address the cause of the
crystals instead of planning to have your cat cut up unnecessarily
because it seems more convenient.

i told her that i wanted to give him that
operation and she said she would make
arrangements for it when Joey gets better
& is no longer inflamed.


I would never do this without first taking the time to try to resolve
the cause. I hope you regain your sanity and focus on dealing with and
curing the crystal issues rather than looking for a drastic quick fix.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray



[email protected] August 20th 03 08:44 AM

Barbara wrote:

when i talked to the vet this afternoon,
she said Joey was a good candidate for
an operation which will relieve him of the
crystals


The operation will NOT relieve him of crystals. It will only make him
less likely to block. A vet that would recommend such a drastic measure
when other things have not yet been tried is an idiot and you should be
looking for a new vet. This operation is a *last resort* which should be
considered *only* after all other options fail. You aren't even there
yet.
Using a high quality canned food only diet that is supplemented with an
acidifier in tablet form is a better option that doesn't involve such
drastic measures.

but which will turn him into a girl.
said he would never again have this
problem if he had that operation.


That's not true. It will NOT resolve the crystal problems, and will only
lessen chances of a blockage. You need to address the cause of the
crystals instead of planning to have your cat cut up unnecessarily
because it seems more convenient.

i told her that i wanted to give him that
operation and she said she would make
arrangements for it when Joey gets better
& is no longer inflamed.


I would never do this without first taking the time to try to resolve
the cause. I hope you regain your sanity and focus on dealing with and
curing the crystal issues rather than looking for a drastic quick fix.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray



[email protected] August 20th 03 09:15 AM

I wanted to add to my previous post the fact that a cat that has had a
perineal urethrostomy is highly prone to bladder infections and stones
and needs regular trips to the vet for monitoring.
Again, I would not recommend you do this to your cat when there are
other options.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray



[email protected] August 20th 03 09:15 AM

I wanted to add to my previous post the fact that a cat that has had a
perineal urethrostomy is highly prone to bladder infections and stones
and needs regular trips to the vet for monitoring.
Again, I would not recommend you do this to your cat when there are
other options.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray



bewtifulfreak August 20th 03 02:29 PM

wrote:

I would never do this without first taking the time to try to resolve
the cause. I hope you regain your sanity and focus on dealing with and
curing the crystal issues rather than looking for a drastic quick fix.


She's already gone for the drastic quick fix of declawing, why not genital
mutilation as well?





bewtifulfreak August 20th 03 02:29 PM

wrote:

I would never do this without first taking the time to try to resolve
the cause. I hope you regain your sanity and focus on dealing with and
curing the crystal issues rather than looking for a drastic quick fix.


She's already gone for the drastic quick fix of declawing, why not genital
mutilation as well?





Arjun Ray August 21st 03 01:18 AM

In , "bewtifulfreak"
wrote:
| wrote:
|
| I would never do this without first taking the time to try to resolve
| the cause. I hope you regain your sanity and focus on dealing with and
| curing the crystal issues rather than looking for a drastic quick fix.
|
| She's already gone for the drastic quick fix of declawing, why not
| genital mutilation as well?

Indeed. And then, when the poor boy pees on the couch because he can't
help it, still needing to learn sphincter control, she'll be ready with
a rolled up newspaper to smack "proper behavior" into him.

And, of course, feeding him the usual grocery store crap will make the
blockages when they occur even more massive. There must be some fine
print in the contract to cover that too.

--
"in order to have a home, food in your bowl, water to drink, regular
medical care, and an owner to take care of them & love them, prices
have to be paid. i don't think my cats hate the price (declawing)
they paid for a home." -- Barbara Peale's contractarian "defence"
of declawing in


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