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Joe Pitt December 4th 03 03:05 PM

Call it what it is: killed NOT euthanized
 
I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and dogs) in
animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an animal that
is SICK. What is happening in shelters all over is they are KILLING
perfectly fine animals because they are unwanted, often due to the failure
to spay and neuter their parents. The general public sees 'euthanized' and
it softens what is happening in their minds.

I see postings that say you adopted the day before the animal was due to be
euthanized. Tell people you adopted just before the animal was due to be
KILLED.

It may seem a small thing, but when you talk to people it may help their
awareness of the problem.

Every day
10,000 human babies are born
70,000 kittens and puppies are born
If every infant when home with a kitten or puppy there would still be 60,000
left to find homes.
Most of them never will.

--
Joe
http://www.jwpitt.com/cats.htm
Cat Rescue http://www.animalrescuefoundation.com
God created the cat so man could have the pleasure of petting the tiger




Mary December 4th 03 04:18 PM


"Joe Pitt" wrote in message
. ..
I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and

dogs) in
animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an

animal that
is SICK. What is happening in shelters all over is they are KILLING
perfectly fine animals because they are unwanted, often due to the

failure
to spay and neuter their parents. The general public sees

'euthanized' and
it softens what is happening in their minds.

I see postings that say you adopted the day before the animal was

due to be
euthanized. Tell people you adopted just before the animal was due

to be
KILLED.

It may seem a small thing, but when you talk to people it may help

their
awareness of the problem.

Every day
10,000 human babies are born
70,000 kittens and puppies are born
If every infant when home with a kitten or puppy there would still

be 60,000
left to find homes.
Most of them never will.

--


Thank you, Joe. You are absolutely right. I used the term out of
habit, not stopping to think about the distinction you note.



Mr Nangla December 4th 03 07:44 PM

Hey Joe,

This is very true, I find myself stumped sometimes when explaining to my
little cousins why my cat can't have babies because of all the 'unwanted'
cats and dogs that are 'euthanized'. It's funny how the kids can see through
all the crap and ask 'but why'.

Regards,

Sonny
London, England

"Mary" wrote in message
. com...

"Joe Pitt" wrote in message
. ..
I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and

dogs) in
animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an

animal that
is SICK. What is happening in shelters all over is they are KILLING
perfectly fine animals because they are unwanted, often due to the

failure
to spay and neuter their parents. The general public sees

'euthanized' and
it softens what is happening in their minds.

I see postings that say you adopted the day before the animal was

due to be
euthanized. Tell people you adopted just before the animal was due

to be
KILLED.

It may seem a small thing, but when you talk to people it may help

their
awareness of the problem.

Every day
10,000 human babies are born
70,000 kittens and puppies are born
If every infant when home with a kitten or puppy there would still

be 60,000
left to find homes.
Most of them never will.

--


Thank you, Joe. You are absolutely right. I used the term out of
habit, not stopping to think about the distinction you note.





-L. December 5th 03 05:58 AM

"Joe Pitt" wrote in message ...
I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and dogs) in
animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an animal that
is SICK. What is happening in shelters all over is they are KILLING
perfectly fine animals because they are unwanted, often due to the failure
to spay and neuter their parents. The general public sees 'euthanized' and
it softens what is happening in their minds.


It's not good and it's not right, and I certainly wish it never had to
happen. But death by lethal injection is more *humane* than death on
the streets, death by prolonged disease, death by dog or other
predator, being hit by cars, or shot or maimed by a human. It is even
preferrable to prolonged life in a cage. No, it isn't euthanasia, in
the proper meaning of the word, but it is better than the
alternatives.

-L.

Phil P. December 5th 03 01:00 PM


"Joe Pitt" wrote in message
. ..
I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and dogs) in
animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an animal that
is SICK. What is happening in shelters all over is they are KILLING
perfectly fine animals because they are unwanted, often due to the failure
to spay and neuter their parents. The general public sees 'euthanized' and
it softens what is happening in their minds.

I see postings that say you adopted the day before the animal was due to

be
euthanized. Tell people you adopted just before the animal was due to be
KILLED.

It may seem a small thing, but when you talk to people it may help their
awareness of the problem.


Maybe if everyone used the correct terms that describes exactly what it is,
more people would be outraged and sickened enough to force legislation to
eliminate it -- like mandatory neuter before adoption or sale (health
permiting) and subsidize vets or give them a tax deduction for neutering all
animals in their care regardless of the owners' consent or ability to pay.

I use the terms "excecute", "put to death", "slaughter"... because they
stick in peoples' throats and are much harder to swallow than "put to sleep"
or euthanize" or "put down".




Wendy December 5th 03 01:15 PM


"-L." wrote in message
...
"Joe Pitt" wrote in message
...
I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and dogs) in
animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an animal that
is SICK. What is happening in shelters all over is they are KILLING
perfectly fine animals because they are unwanted, often due to the failure
to spay and neuter their parents. The general public sees 'euthanized' and
it softens what is happening in their minds.


It's not good and it's not right, and I certainly wish it never had to
happen. But death by lethal injection is more *humane* than death on
the streets, death by prolonged disease, death by dog or other
predator, being hit by cars, or shot or maimed by a human. It is even
preferrable to prolonged life in a cage. No, it isn't euthanasia, in
the proper meaning of the word, but it is better than the
alternatives.

-L.

That should read the possibility of death on the streets etc.

The cat may not agree with you but it makes people feel better.



-L. December 6th 03 12:27 AM

"Wendy" wrote in message ...
"-L." wrote in message
...
"Joe Pitt" wrote in message
...
I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and dogs) in
animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an animal that
is SICK. What is happening in shelters all over is they are KILLING
perfectly fine animals because they are unwanted, often due to the failure
to spay and neuter their parents. The general public sees 'euthanized' and
it softens what is happening in their minds.


It's not good and it's not right, and I certainly wish it never had to
happen. But death by lethal injection is more *humane* than death on
the streets, death by prolonged disease, death by dog or other
predator, being hit by cars, or shot or maimed by a human. It is even
preferrable to prolonged life in a cage. No, it isn't euthanasia, in
the proper meaning of the word, but it is better than the
alternatives.

-L.

That should read the possibility of death on the streets etc.


Cats on the streets die sooner or later. Most of them sooner.

-L.

Rona Yuthasastrakosol December 6th 03 01:14 AM

"-L." wrote in message
m...


Cats on the streets die sooner or later. Most of them sooner.

-L.


Last I heard, cats in homes die sooner or later, too. Come to think of it,
humans do, too :-)!

rona

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Kalyahna December 6th 03 05:29 AM

"Joe Pitt" wrote in message
. ..
I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and dogs) in
animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an animal that
is SICK.


It's still ending their life before the natural bodily functions would have
stopped on their own. It's killing, either way. The point is the prevention
of further suffering, and this DOES include aggressive animals that would
otherwise sit in a kennel.

What is happening in shelters all over is they are KILLING
perfectly fine animals because they are unwanted, often due to the failure
to spay and neuter their parents.


Yes, a large part of it has to do with the lack of spaying and neutering.
But damned near as much of it has to do with irresponsible people who dump
their pets on overcrowded shelters for trivial reasons (moving, new baby,
too big, no time, etc).

A lot of shelters apparently have a reputation for euthanizing strays as
soon as their legal holding period is over. NOT every shelter does this.

The general public sees 'euthanized' and
it softens what is happening in their minds.

I see postings that say you adopted the day before the animal was due to

be
euthanized. Tell people you adopted just before the animal was due to be
KILLED.


And continue to let people think that killing animals is the sole purpose of
shelters and humane societies. One of my coworkers was out a month or so
ago, and someone struck up a conversation with her, asking what she did for
a living. When she replied that she worked for the humane society, he asked,
"Oh, so you kill animals for a living?" THAT --IS-- the general attitude of
the public.

By the way, not every shelter still uses the time-limit criteria for
euthanasia.

On a more personal note (which explains why this subject is so intensely
irritating), as a certified euthanasia tech, I helped with my first euth
today. Four of them, actually. A pit who had attacked two cats, an ancient
husky with severe handling issues, an absolutely petrified pit, and a
chow/gsd mix that leaned on ME when he got woozy. See, I'd played ball with
him in the play-yards on several occasions. I liked that dog a great deal,
despite his issues. But he HAD those issues, and we cannot put a dog up for
adoption that will bite if someone reaches toward his food dish, or
distrusts men completely and barely trusts women. And he was euthanized. Not
killed. You know why there's that difference in wording for the people who
actually work in this field, Joe? Because frankly, if we look at it as
killing, slaughtering, whatever you'd like to call it, it would be
impossible for us to do. But if we call it euthanasia, we remember that we
put them to sleep, end their suffering, and prevent injury to other animals
and other people. We take on that emotional burden and the extra heartbreak
that already fills a very emotionally difficult line of work. YOU try to
settle it in your mind when a terrified dog trusts you in his last moments
with knowing that this dog won't injure anyone, and he won't have to sit in
a kennel for another day, just waiting on someone else to do it. YOU try to
be grateful that at least in his last moments, someone was with him who
cared and cried for him.

And if this was all about animal control facilities that don't adopt out?
Tell your presenter to cough up the money to build a shelter in that area,
then. And pay the staff that takes care of the animals, or the vets that
perform the spays and neuters. Because there's no goddamned room in any
existing shelter for those 60,000 kittens and puppies of which you spoke.
Ask him how many foster animals he's housed in the last six months. It's
very easy to preach, much more difficult to practice.

Now I'm done ranting, because I've had a long day. It's time to finish a
book and be comforted by my cats.

~Kal.



Luvskats00 December 6th 03 05:43 AM

"Rona Yuthasastrakosol"
joins the group who will argue on any point..whether it makes sense or not, by
saying:

"-L." wrote in message
Cats on the streets die sooner or later. Most of them sooner.


Last I heard, cats in homes die sooner or later, too. Come to think of

it, humans do, too :-)!
rona


Oh....cats who are inside, vaccinated, taken to the vet on a regular basis,
given food & water regularly, given love and attention regularly don't usually
live longer than their counterparts who live outside, having to deal with: bad
weather, cars (traffic signals, heavy traffic, speeding cars, walk/don't walk
signs), predators (dogs, wild animals, cruel humans) and poisons
(anti-freeze/coolant, rat poison & other toxic substances)?

Want to keep your cat healthier, longer? Keep her/him inside.


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