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What a lot of nonsense! The JWs are known to twist scripture.
| Can one deny that the chance exists | that the same grave consequences could visit your home that fell upon John? Don't know of *any* such case. | Clearly, God disapproved of this 'birthday' party. Should we not then | disapprove (without showing any malicious intent, for Godly hatred of every | last part of the wicked system of things is a manifestation of our | obedience to Jehovah) of cats the way the scriptures recommend? It's the wickedness of the *human heart* the bible refers to!! | Throughout history, particularly in the middle ages and reaching its climax | in the Salem Witch trials of the 1600s, cats were recognized by the forces | of Christendom as carriers - if not direct incarnatations - of demons. | While, in common with most beliefs of the empire of false religion, no | evidence has ever been found to support this, the symbolism of cats still | remain. If it was a false religion as you say, why then should we carry on believing this nonsense? No! Now we know better and do not support those wrong beliefs about cats! | The careful student of the Bible will acknowledge that nowhere within it is | any species ('kind') of cat referred to in favorable terms. Dogs are not mentioned either, and canaries and guinea pigs and giraffes and zebras, monkeys and, and ... | While the animal itself may be unaware of | this, it serves only its true master - Satan, the devil. No it serves killing mice.... | The scriptures clearly indicate that neither Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, | faithful Job, the Apostles, Jesus, Charles Russell nor any other human | bearing God's favor himself owned a cat. .... and therefore it was so clear that cats were about that there's no need to mention it. | Should we simply assume that this | is a mere coincidence? No, surely not! This was the case because these | individuals did not want to be like the heathen contemporaries of their | respective days who showed no regard for how God feels about owning a cat. No! What they did instead: they didn't *worship* the cats. | Additionally, cats practice many unclean habits not befitting a Christian | household: coughing up fur balls, licking inappropriate body areas | (inappropriate handling), urination on the floor, eating dead animals often | with their blood, vocal promiscuity and widespread sexual misconduct | without the benefit or sanctity of matrimony or fidelity, abuse of catnip | (an intoxicant herb), stealing food from the table, and so on. What sort of | example does this give our young ones endeavoring to faithfully serve | Jehovah? And how about dogs? The removal of the cat must therefore be carefully | planned, and a Christian will know he must not give a satanic being to | another person, on penalty of bloodguilt. PLONK!! |
What a lot of nonsense! The JWs are known to twist scripture.
| Can one deny that the chance exists | that the same grave consequences could visit your home that fell upon John? Don't know of *any* such case. | Clearly, God disapproved of this 'birthday' party. Should we not then | disapprove (without showing any malicious intent, for Godly hatred of every | last part of the wicked system of things is a manifestation of our | obedience to Jehovah) of cats the way the scriptures recommend? It's the wickedness of the *human heart* the bible refers to!! | Throughout history, particularly in the middle ages and reaching its climax | in the Salem Witch trials of the 1600s, cats were recognized by the forces | of Christendom as carriers - if not direct incarnatations - of demons. | While, in common with most beliefs of the empire of false religion, no | evidence has ever been found to support this, the symbolism of cats still | remain. If it was a false religion as you say, why then should we carry on believing this nonsense? No! Now we know better and do not support those wrong beliefs about cats! | The careful student of the Bible will acknowledge that nowhere within it is | any species ('kind') of cat referred to in favorable terms. Dogs are not mentioned either, and canaries and guinea pigs and giraffes and zebras, monkeys and, and ... | While the animal itself may be unaware of | this, it serves only its true master - Satan, the devil. No it serves killing mice.... | The scriptures clearly indicate that neither Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, | faithful Job, the Apostles, Jesus, Charles Russell nor any other human | bearing God's favor himself owned a cat. .... and therefore it was so clear that cats were about that there's no need to mention it. | Should we simply assume that this | is a mere coincidence? No, surely not! This was the case because these | individuals did not want to be like the heathen contemporaries of their | respective days who showed no regard for how God feels about owning a cat. No! What they did instead: they didn't *worship* the cats. | Additionally, cats practice many unclean habits not befitting a Christian | household: coughing up fur balls, licking inappropriate body areas | (inappropriate handling), urination on the floor, eating dead animals often | with their blood, vocal promiscuity and widespread sexual misconduct | without the benefit or sanctity of matrimony or fidelity, abuse of catnip | (an intoxicant herb), stealing food from the table, and so on. What sort of | example does this give our young ones endeavoring to faithfully serve | Jehovah? And how about dogs? The removal of the cat must therefore be carefully | planned, and a Christian will know he must not give a satanic being to | another person, on penalty of bloodguilt. PLONK!! |
OOgla wrote:
Prominent Bethelite made this up...I can assure you the JW's do not, and have never believed this...... Not only that, but this article is clearly a spoof. w03 11/15 31 - Q: Are cats for Christians? Questions from Readers Is it appropriate for a Christian to own a cat, in light of their past pagan religious affiliation and the medical information that is now coming to light? -B.L., U.S.A. Given the 'reference' in the article to the 1964 Watchtower (look for "w64 2/15 127-8"), the date of the article is September 15, 2003 (not September 15, 1903 -- I cannot personally check such articles). There is a "Question from Readers" article in the w03 11/15 issue, but it isn't this article. So, either PB is just having a spoof (a rare thing for him), or he's deliberately passing on a lie, or he thinks this is a real article but didn't check it in person, or someone is impersonating him and thus doing a double spoof. It is the sort of thing that some JW-critics would wish non-JWs to believe about JWs. -mark. |
OOgla wrote:
Prominent Bethelite made this up...I can assure you the JW's do not, and have never believed this...... Not only that, but this article is clearly a spoof. w03 11/15 31 - Q: Are cats for Christians? Questions from Readers Is it appropriate for a Christian to own a cat, in light of their past pagan religious affiliation and the medical information that is now coming to light? -B.L., U.S.A. Given the 'reference' in the article to the 1964 Watchtower (look for "w64 2/15 127-8"), the date of the article is September 15, 2003 (not September 15, 1903 -- I cannot personally check such articles). There is a "Question from Readers" article in the w03 11/15 issue, but it isn't this article. So, either PB is just having a spoof (a rare thing for him), or he's deliberately passing on a lie, or he thinks this is a real article but didn't check it in person, or someone is impersonating him and thus doing a double spoof. It is the sort of thing that some JW-critics would wish non-JWs to believe about JWs. -mark. |
I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to
your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com |
I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to
your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com |
Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then
shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. AG "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Vx29b.3793$v%5.269@fed1read02... I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com |
Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then
shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. AG "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Vx29b.3793$v%5.269@fed1read02... I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com |
Agua Girl wrote:
Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. AG "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Vx29b.3793$v%5.269@fed1read02... I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com -- nimue "Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people." Curtis Armstrong "I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike." Clairel "There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also smoking." Principal Snyder |
Agua Girl wrote:
Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. AG "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Vx29b.3793$v%5.269@fed1read02... I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com -- nimue "Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people." Curtis Armstrong "I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike." Clairel "There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also smoking." Principal Snyder |
"nimue" wrote in message .. . Agua Girl wrote: Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. That's fine...but joking about the stereo-type does more to promote the same. You have no idea (or maybe you do) the amount of muck one has to go through if their religion isn't mainline. I do wear a pentagram and am constantly having to explain it has nothing to do with devil worship or any other nonsense that tv (and these jokes) feed the public. It's means earth, fire, water, air and spirit. It is the star of life...yeah...real scary business that. As for the JW, when they come to my door the most they are trying to do is to "save" me. Obviously I don't need them and don't want to be "saved" by them but caring enough about a total stranger...wanting them to follow the one true path (by your own standards) is nothing more than misguided. It's not horrible. I can't and won't believe as they do but they don't pelt my door with rocks when I shut it and they don't yell slurs at me. ..not like we do them. (by we I mean us non JW). Like I said...a polite no thank you is all that's required...and I beg you don't tarnish the reputation of non mainline spiritualist by waving your pentagram and hollering about goat sacrifices. It does way more harm than good. AG |
"nimue" wrote in message .. . Agua Girl wrote: Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. That's fine...but joking about the stereo-type does more to promote the same. You have no idea (or maybe you do) the amount of muck one has to go through if their religion isn't mainline. I do wear a pentagram and am constantly having to explain it has nothing to do with devil worship or any other nonsense that tv (and these jokes) feed the public. It's means earth, fire, water, air and spirit. It is the star of life...yeah...real scary business that. As for the JW, when they come to my door the most they are trying to do is to "save" me. Obviously I don't need them and don't want to be "saved" by them but caring enough about a total stranger...wanting them to follow the one true path (by your own standards) is nothing more than misguided. It's not horrible. I can't and won't believe as they do but they don't pelt my door with rocks when I shut it and they don't yell slurs at me. ..not like we do them. (by we I mean us non JW). Like I said...a polite no thank you is all that's required...and I beg you don't tarnish the reputation of non mainline spiritualist by waving your pentagram and hollering about goat sacrifices. It does way more harm than good. AG |
"nimue" wrote in message .. . Agua Girl wrote: Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. That's fine...but joking about the stereo-type does more to promote the same. You have no idea (or maybe you do) the amount of muck one has to go through if their religion isn't mainline. I do wear a pentagram and am constantly having to explain it has nothing to do with devil worship or any other nonsense that tv (and these jokes) feed the public. It's means earth, fire, water, air and spirit. It is the star of life...yeah...real scary business that. As for the JW, when they come to my door the most they are trying to do is to "save" me. Obviously I don't need them and don't want to be "saved" by them but caring enough about a total stranger...wanting them to follow the one true path (by your own standards) is nothing more than misguided. It's not horrible. I can't and won't believe as they do but they don't pelt my door with rocks when I shut it and they don't yell slurs at me. ..not like we do them. (by we I mean us non JW). Like I said...a polite no thank you is all that's required...and I beg you don't tarnish the reputation of non mainline spiritualist by waving your pentagram and hollering about goat sacrifices. It does way more harm than good. AG |
"nimue" wrote in message .. . Agua Girl wrote: Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. That's fine...but joking about the stereo-type does more to promote the same. You have no idea (or maybe you do) the amount of muck one has to go through if their religion isn't mainline. I do wear a pentagram and am constantly having to explain it has nothing to do with devil worship or any other nonsense that tv (and these jokes) feed the public. It's means earth, fire, water, air and spirit. It is the star of life...yeah...real scary business that. As for the JW, when they come to my door the most they are trying to do is to "save" me. Obviously I don't need them and don't want to be "saved" by them but caring enough about a total stranger...wanting them to follow the one true path (by your own standards) is nothing more than misguided. It's not horrible. I can't and won't believe as they do but they don't pelt my door with rocks when I shut it and they don't yell slurs at me. ..not like we do them. (by we I mean us non JW). Like I said...a polite no thank you is all that's required...and I beg you don't tarnish the reputation of non mainline spiritualist by waving your pentagram and hollering about goat sacrifices. It does way more harm than good. AG |
Agua Girl wrote:
"nimue" wrote in message .. . Agua Girl wrote: Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. That's fine...but joking about the stereo-type does more to promote the same. You have no idea (or maybe you do) the amount of muck one has to go through if their religion isn't mainline. I do wear a pentagram and am constantly having to explain it has nothing to do with devil worship or any other nonsense that tv (and these jokes) feed the public. It's means earth, fire, water, air and spirit. It is the star of life...yeah...real scary business that. Just point out to anyone who asks that the pentacle star around your neck is the exact same pentacle star that is on the American flag. As for the JW, when they come to my door the most they are trying to do is to "save" me. Obviously I don't need them and don't want to be "saved" by them but caring enough about a total stranger...wanting them to follow the one true path (by your own standards) is nothing more than misguided. It's not horrible. I can't and won't believe as they do but they don't pelt my door with rocks when I shut it and they don't yell slurs at me. ..not like we do them. (by we I mean us non JW). Like I said...a polite no thank you is all that's required...and I beg you don't tarnish the reputation of non mainline spiritualist by waving your pentagram and hollering about goat sacrifices. It does way more harm than good. Well, I did something quite dreadful to some JW once. I didn't mean to. It was an accident. A friend was supposed to meet me at my house. My house was set back from the road a bit, and sheltered with a shady front porch. I was running late, and was just getting in the shower when I heard the knock at the front door. I knew it was my friend, so I leaped out of the shower, ran dripping stark naked to the door, flung it open to let my friend in, and saw -- two Jehovah's Witnesses! I nearly died on the spot. I slammed the door in their faces, grabbed my bathrobe (which was hanging on the front door hook -- why I don't know) and opened the door again to apologize. They were completely unaffected! They smiled, and told me they were there to discuss the bible, etc. They acted as if nothing had happened. I told them I couldn't -- was expecting a friend -- had to take a shower -- I eventually got rid of them, but I don't think I have ever completely gotten over the embarrassment of that moment! AG -- nimue "Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people." Curtis Armstrong "I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike." Clairel "There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also smoking." Principal Snyder |
Agua Girl wrote:
"nimue" wrote in message .. . Agua Girl wrote: Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. That's fine...but joking about the stereo-type does more to promote the same. You have no idea (or maybe you do) the amount of muck one has to go through if their religion isn't mainline. I do wear a pentagram and am constantly having to explain it has nothing to do with devil worship or any other nonsense that tv (and these jokes) feed the public. It's means earth, fire, water, air and spirit. It is the star of life...yeah...real scary business that. Just point out to anyone who asks that the pentacle star around your neck is the exact same pentacle star that is on the American flag. As for the JW, when they come to my door the most they are trying to do is to "save" me. Obviously I don't need them and don't want to be "saved" by them but caring enough about a total stranger...wanting them to follow the one true path (by your own standards) is nothing more than misguided. It's not horrible. I can't and won't believe as they do but they don't pelt my door with rocks when I shut it and they don't yell slurs at me. ..not like we do them. (by we I mean us non JW). Like I said...a polite no thank you is all that's required...and I beg you don't tarnish the reputation of non mainline spiritualist by waving your pentagram and hollering about goat sacrifices. It does way more harm than good. Well, I did something quite dreadful to some JW once. I didn't mean to. It was an accident. A friend was supposed to meet me at my house. My house was set back from the road a bit, and sheltered with a shady front porch. I was running late, and was just getting in the shower when I heard the knock at the front door. I knew it was my friend, so I leaped out of the shower, ran dripping stark naked to the door, flung it open to let my friend in, and saw -- two Jehovah's Witnesses! I nearly died on the spot. I slammed the door in their faces, grabbed my bathrobe (which was hanging on the front door hook -- why I don't know) and opened the door again to apologize. They were completely unaffected! They smiled, and told me they were there to discuss the bible, etc. They acted as if nothing had happened. I told them I couldn't -- was expecting a friend -- had to take a shower -- I eventually got rid of them, but I don't think I have ever completely gotten over the embarrassment of that moment! AG -- nimue "Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people." Curtis Armstrong "I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike." Clairel "There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also smoking." Principal Snyder |
Apparently Agua girl has no sense of humor.
-- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message . .. Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. AG "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Vx29b.3793$v%5.269@fed1read02... I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com |
Apparently Agua girl has no sense of humor.
-- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message . .. Why don't you try "no thanks but thank you for stopping by" and then shut the door? Works fine. I am curious about all your goats blood, hell, pentagram "jokes". I hope it is not your opinion that anyone who wears a pentagram (or pentacle) is some how involved in those silly tv depictions of pagans or witches. If not, than your merely perpetuating a myth..if so...get informed. AG "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Vx29b.3793$v%5.269@fed1read02... I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com |
I think you worry far too much about this subject. Nobody mentioned anything
about the pentagram being specifically for devil worship although it has been used as a symbol for it as well as paganism. It is a tool and it can be used for bad or good. You need to have a sense of humor here though. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message . .. That's fine...but joking about the stereo-type does more to promote the same. You have no idea (or maybe you do) the amount of muck one has to go through if their religion isn't mainline. I do wear a pentagram and am constantly having to explain it has nothing to do with devil worship or any other nonsense that tv (and these jokes) feed the public. It's means earth, fire, water, air and spirit. It is the star of life...yeah...real scary business that. As for the JW, when they come to my door the most they are trying to do is to "save" me. Obviously I don't need them and don't want to be "saved" by them but caring enough about a total stranger...wanting them to follow the one true path (by your own standards) is nothing more than misguided. It's not horrible. I can't and won't believe as they do but they don't pelt my door with rocks when I shut it and they don't yell slurs at me. ..not like we do them. (by we I mean us non JW). Like I said...a polite no thank you is all that's required...and I beg you don't tarnish the reputation of non mainline spiritualist by waving your pentagram and hollering about goat sacrifices. It does way more harm than good. AG |
I think you worry far too much about this subject. Nobody mentioned anything
about the pentagram being specifically for devil worship although it has been used as a symbol for it as well as paganism. It is a tool and it can be used for bad or good. You need to have a sense of humor here though. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message . .. That's fine...but joking about the stereo-type does more to promote the same. You have no idea (or maybe you do) the amount of muck one has to go through if their religion isn't mainline. I do wear a pentagram and am constantly having to explain it has nothing to do with devil worship or any other nonsense that tv (and these jokes) feed the public. It's means earth, fire, water, air and spirit. It is the star of life...yeah...real scary business that. As for the JW, when they come to my door the most they are trying to do is to "save" me. Obviously I don't need them and don't want to be "saved" by them but caring enough about a total stranger...wanting them to follow the one true path (by your own standards) is nothing more than misguided. It's not horrible. I can't and won't believe as they do but they don't pelt my door with rocks when I shut it and they don't yell slurs at me. ..not like we do them. (by we I mean us non JW). Like I said...a polite no thank you is all that's required...and I beg you don't tarnish the reputation of non mainline spiritualist by waving your pentagram and hollering about goat sacrifices. It does way more harm than good. AG |
Apparently Agua girl has no sense of humor.
But your post wasn't funny. Sherry |
Apparently Agua girl has no sense of humor.
But your post wasn't funny. Sherry |
"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:pxa9b.3960$v%5.1088@fed1read02... I think you worry far too much about this subject. Nobody mentioned anything about the pentagram being specifically for devil worship although it has been used as a symbol for it as well as paganism. It is a tool and it can be used for bad or good. You need to have a sense of humor here though. That's crap. The pentagram is not a tool...it is a symbol. It's history, the reason it came into being has nothing to do with "bad". I don't see you joke about burning crosses to scare off JW. You didn't specifically link the pentagram with devil worship but you sure as heck implied it. You listed all kinds of satanistic excuses the last one being "didn't you see the pentagram". That links them...particularly for the uninformed..of which I now count you as a member. For the record, devil worshippers do not use a pentagram as a symbol. They some times use and inverted pentagram.. with the point at the bottom just like they sometimes use an inverted cross. This is to promote the "anti" attitude of the symbol. AG |
"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:pxa9b.3960$v%5.1088@fed1read02... I think you worry far too much about this subject. Nobody mentioned anything about the pentagram being specifically for devil worship although it has been used as a symbol for it as well as paganism. It is a tool and it can be used for bad or good. You need to have a sense of humor here though. That's crap. The pentagram is not a tool...it is a symbol. It's history, the reason it came into being has nothing to do with "bad". I don't see you joke about burning crosses to scare off JW. You didn't specifically link the pentagram with devil worship but you sure as heck implied it. You listed all kinds of satanistic excuses the last one being "didn't you see the pentagram". That links them...particularly for the uninformed..of which I now count you as a member. For the record, devil worshippers do not use a pentagram as a symbol. They some times use and inverted pentagram.. with the point at the bottom just like they sometimes use an inverted cross. This is to promote the "anti" attitude of the symbol. AG |
Nobody mentioned slavery or the whole race issue but you seem to want to
take things out of context and turn it into something about you. Are you offended by my having a black cat? The whole post was humorous and that was all it was. It seems to me you want to take something that isn't there and make a whole issue out of it. You need to learn to relax here and maybe laugh a little. As for discimination, I have faced it but I also know when some things were meant as a joke. The original posting that I made was meant for humor. It seems most here got that but you insist it was nothing more than a ruthless attempt to pick on Pagans (which were never even picked on nor brought up until you mentioned them). Nobody was picking on the Pagans here so you need to learn to lighten up. There is also a not anti-Pagan campaign here either but you seem to want fight something that isn't there. Personally, I got nothing against them. Of course here is something that may shock and upset you. I have a black cat and I consider all black cats as being a symbol of good luck. BTW, I have known those who practice both Paganism and Wicca and am well versed on what the pentagram symbolizes but satanists also seem to use it as a symbol. One thing I know for sure is that most of those practictioners have a sense of humor and have laughed at some of the jokes. Why? Because they are human and are quite confident in themselves and their practice. They also try to spread postive and not negative. And when faced with negative they try to turn it into positive. You can try to turn this into a flame war if you want to but no ill will was meant here. It was humor. Nothing more and nothing less. What does W.A.R.D. supposed mean anyway? BTW, for those who have non-black cats I am also a member of your society as well as I also have a diluted Tabby. If Agua girl or anyone else wants to be mad about that then there is nothing I can do here. I am simply a cat lover and servent to two cats. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message ... Yeah, and a lot of African Americans don't have a sense of humor about that whole slavery thing. You are more a part of the problem then you seem willing to acknowledge. You talk about "scaring away" JW by mentioning goats blood and pentagrams. You don't think that is implying that pentagrams and sacrificing and devil worship are some how linked. Maybe my "sense" of humor wouldn't be tested if closed minded and big mouthed individuals didn't go around spreading the same kind of crap that you are "joking" about. Obviously you haven't been the victim of real discrimination... born of ignorance. If you had..you wouldn't have found it any funnier than I did. Get informed. You can start with W.A.R.D. AG |
Nobody mentioned slavery or the whole race issue but you seem to want to
take things out of context and turn it into something about you. Are you offended by my having a black cat? The whole post was humorous and that was all it was. It seems to me you want to take something that isn't there and make a whole issue out of it. You need to learn to relax here and maybe laugh a little. As for discimination, I have faced it but I also know when some things were meant as a joke. The original posting that I made was meant for humor. It seems most here got that but you insist it was nothing more than a ruthless attempt to pick on Pagans (which were never even picked on nor brought up until you mentioned them). Nobody was picking on the Pagans here so you need to learn to lighten up. There is also a not anti-Pagan campaign here either but you seem to want fight something that isn't there. Personally, I got nothing against them. Of course here is something that may shock and upset you. I have a black cat and I consider all black cats as being a symbol of good luck. BTW, I have known those who practice both Paganism and Wicca and am well versed on what the pentagram symbolizes but satanists also seem to use it as a symbol. One thing I know for sure is that most of those practictioners have a sense of humor and have laughed at some of the jokes. Why? Because they are human and are quite confident in themselves and their practice. They also try to spread postive and not negative. And when faced with negative they try to turn it into positive. You can try to turn this into a flame war if you want to but no ill will was meant here. It was humor. Nothing more and nothing less. What does W.A.R.D. supposed mean anyway? BTW, for those who have non-black cats I am also a member of your society as well as I also have a diluted Tabby. If Agua girl or anyone else wants to be mad about that then there is nothing I can do here. I am simply a cat lover and servent to two cats. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message ... Yeah, and a lot of African Americans don't have a sense of humor about that whole slavery thing. You are more a part of the problem then you seem willing to acknowledge. You talk about "scaring away" JW by mentioning goats blood and pentagrams. You don't think that is implying that pentagrams and sacrificing and devil worship are some how linked. Maybe my "sense" of humor wouldn't be tested if closed minded and big mouthed individuals didn't go around spreading the same kind of crap that you are "joking" about. Obviously you haven't been the victim of real discrimination... born of ignorance. If you had..you wouldn't have found it any funnier than I did. Get informed. You can start with W.A.R.D. AG |
In a way it was. I have tried to point this out to Agua Girl but she seems
to want to insist that I have this strong hatred (which I do not) for Pagans. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "nimue" wrote in message .. . I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. AG "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Vx29b.3793$v%5.269@fed1read02... I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com -- nimue "Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people." Curtis Armstrong "I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike." Clairel "There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also smoking." Principal Snyder |
In a way it was. I have tried to point this out to Agua Girl but she seems
to want to insist that I have this strong hatred (which I do not) for Pagans. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "nimue" wrote in message .. . I *think* that those were jokes meant to mock the ignorance Cat Protector believes the Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit. I don't think that Cat Protector really believes those things -- CP just thinks that Jehovah's Witnesses believe those things, and CP is making fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't like the JW for their frightening "rules" concerning sexual abuse and the reporting of the same. Scary. AG "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Vx29b.3793$v%5.269@fed1read02... I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. 1. It is time for my cat worshipping meeting. 2. I am getting ready to go out to and witness the sacrifice of a goat so I can't talk right now. 3. This household is ruled by three cats and I must bow to them. 4. I am meeting with my other religious brothers so I don't have time right now. It is also my turn to bring the goat's blood. 5. Thanks for coming but Jehovah owes me money from a previous gambling debt. Are you here to pay up? 6. The dark lord says I'll have a hard time in hell if I keep him waiting. 7. I am hosting my first orgy. Do you have any grapes? 8. Got any virgins in your group? 9. You interrupted my porno viewing and thanks to you JW's I am now sexually frustrated. 10. Didn't you see the pentagram hanging in my window? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com -- nimue "Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people." Curtis Armstrong "I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike." Clairel "There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also smoking." Principal Snyder |
"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:tlf9b.4792$v%5.4247@fed1read02... Are you going to be mad at me if I say I have a black cat and I see it as a symbol of good luck? Of course not. You seem to be hell bent on proving that a simple symbol such as a pentagram can't be used for either positive or negative. Anything can be used as a symbol for positive or negative. Promoting the idea that the pentagram is some how bad and signifies something negative (as you did since you suggested using it alot with comments about goat bload and sacrifices to scare off JW) is ignorant and dangerous. The only time the pentagram is really used as a symbol by "devil worshippers" or for something bad is when it is inverted. This is done to signify the opposite of what it stands for. It's the anti symbol. This is a fact. Wrap your mind around it. Research it. Check out the differences. You can use any symbol for anything you want but that doesn't make it stand for that. Pentagrams...normal point up 5 pointed stars surrounded by a circle mean only one thing historical..and world wide. That is the symbol of earth, air, fire, water and spirit..and the circle of life. That's it. Saying...even as a joke... that having such a symbol should some how scare off JW is ignorant and promotes the idea that the symbol should be feared. Symbols can be tools as well... No...a symbol is just a symbol. A tool is something different. Check the meaning in websters. Unless you happen to have a metal pentagram that you attached the end of a stick and now use as a shovel. Then I suppose it's now a tool..... You seem to have no sense of humor here. I think you need to re-read my post because I didn't say that the pentagram was mainly a satanic symbol. You promoted it. Maybe you should re-read your post. Better yet, buy a pentagram and wear it around your neck for a week or two and watch the reactions. When you lose your job, when your landlord decides not to renew your lease, when your neighbors egg your house... then tell me how funny you find your comments. No..none of those things have happened to me but they are actual cases of religious discriminations all because someone was ignorant about what that symbol means...and your "humor" perpetuates that kind of ignorance. You can get all defensive and blame my lack of "humor" or you can get educated..your choice. BTW, I have a very good sense of humor...you just aren't funny. AG |
"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:tlf9b.4792$v%5.4247@fed1read02... Are you going to be mad at me if I say I have a black cat and I see it as a symbol of good luck? Of course not. You seem to be hell bent on proving that a simple symbol such as a pentagram can't be used for either positive or negative. Anything can be used as a symbol for positive or negative. Promoting the idea that the pentagram is some how bad and signifies something negative (as you did since you suggested using it alot with comments about goat bload and sacrifices to scare off JW) is ignorant and dangerous. The only time the pentagram is really used as a symbol by "devil worshippers" or for something bad is when it is inverted. This is done to signify the opposite of what it stands for. It's the anti symbol. This is a fact. Wrap your mind around it. Research it. Check out the differences. You can use any symbol for anything you want but that doesn't make it stand for that. Pentagrams...normal point up 5 pointed stars surrounded by a circle mean only one thing historical..and world wide. That is the symbol of earth, air, fire, water and spirit..and the circle of life. That's it. Saying...even as a joke... that having such a symbol should some how scare off JW is ignorant and promotes the idea that the symbol should be feared. Symbols can be tools as well... No...a symbol is just a symbol. A tool is something different. Check the meaning in websters. Unless you happen to have a metal pentagram that you attached the end of a stick and now use as a shovel. Then I suppose it's now a tool..... You seem to have no sense of humor here. I think you need to re-read my post because I didn't say that the pentagram was mainly a satanic symbol. You promoted it. Maybe you should re-read your post. Better yet, buy a pentagram and wear it around your neck for a week or two and watch the reactions. When you lose your job, when your landlord decides not to renew your lease, when your neighbors egg your house... then tell me how funny you find your comments. No..none of those things have happened to me but they are actual cases of religious discriminations all because someone was ignorant about what that symbol means...and your "humor" perpetuates that kind of ignorance. You can get all defensive and blame my lack of "humor" or you can get educated..your choice. BTW, I have a very good sense of humor...you just aren't funny. AG |
"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:vIf9b.4794$v%5.3329@fed1read02... Nobody mentioned slavery or the whole race issue but you seem to want to take things out of context and turn it into something about you. Are you offended by my having a black cat? The whole post was humorous and that was all it was. It seems to me you want to take something that isn't there and make a whole issue out of it. You need to learn to relax here and maybe laugh a little. As for discimination, I have faced it but I also know when some things were meant as a joke. The original posting that I made was meant for humor. It seems most here got that but you insist it was nothing more than a ruthless attempt to pick on Pagans (which were never even picked on nor brought up until you mentioned them). Nobody was picking on the Pagans here so you need to learn to lighten up. There is also a not anti-Pagan campaign here either but you seem to want fight something that isn't there. Personally, I got nothing against them. No..I said your sense of humor perpetuates the ignorance tied to the use of a pentagram. My point was that you might laugh at a "slave" joke but I know a lot of people who wouldn't. There is a whole myth tied to the pentagram so now those people who wear it as a symbol of love of earth have to deal with the ignorant majority who continue to see it as some thing negative...which by the way was how you used it. I am not saying you are mounting a anti-pagan campaign..merely pointing out how your "jokes" are spreading ignorance. How bout those burning cross jokes huh???? what? not funny? Of course here is something that may shock and upset you. I have a black cat and I consider all black cats as being a symbol of good luck. BTW, I have known those who practice both Paganism and Wicca and am well versed on what the pentagram symbolizes but satanists also seem to use it as a symbol. First off...I have a black cat too..big deal. That's another stupid myth. Secondly, you aren't well versed in Paganism or Wicca or you wouldn't think the pentagram they use is the same as the inverted one used by the satanist. It's not the same as the star of David either in case that alluded you. One thing I know for sure is that most of those practictioners have a sense of humor and have laughed at some of the jokes. Why? Because they are human and are quite confident in themselves and their practice. They also try to spread postive and not negative. Honestly...I am one of the least "militant" people I know when it comes to this stuff. NONE of the pagans I know appreciate the continued spread of ignorance when it comes to our spirituality. Frankly..I don't think you know any practicing Wiccans. Yes, we walk in the light, are basically positive earth based persons...but having to deal with discrimination because some yahoo got the wrong idea about what a pentagram means from some stupid internet joke will make anyone a little cranky. And when faced with negative they try to turn it into positive. You can try to turn this into a flame war if you want to but no ill will was meant here. It was humor. Nothing more and nothing less. What does W.A.R.D. supposed mean anyway? Ask your witch friends. You have so many that you feel confident you know what they will find funny...should be a simple task. BTW, for those who have non-black cats I am also a member of your society as well as I also have a diluted Tabby. If Agua girl or anyone else wants to be mad about that then there is nothing I can do here. I am simply a cat lover and servent to two cats. Again...I don't care what color your cats are. You could have a pet serpent for all I care. Just stop promoting the idea..even in joke..that the pentagram is something to be feared or means something negative. That's all I asked in the first place. Your the one who got all defensive and assumed that my reaction meant I had no sense of humor. This is a religious symbol. The fact that some satanist invert it much as they do the cross doesn't mean they also "use" the symbol. You can do a lot of harm with your "jokes". If you really do have "pagan" friends then you should be willing to grow a little as a human and avoid "jokes" that could potentially harm. AG |
"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:vIf9b.4794$v%5.3329@fed1read02... Nobody mentioned slavery or the whole race issue but you seem to want to take things out of context and turn it into something about you. Are you offended by my having a black cat? The whole post was humorous and that was all it was. It seems to me you want to take something that isn't there and make a whole issue out of it. You need to learn to relax here and maybe laugh a little. As for discimination, I have faced it but I also know when some things were meant as a joke. The original posting that I made was meant for humor. It seems most here got that but you insist it was nothing more than a ruthless attempt to pick on Pagans (which were never even picked on nor brought up until you mentioned them). Nobody was picking on the Pagans here so you need to learn to lighten up. There is also a not anti-Pagan campaign here either but you seem to want fight something that isn't there. Personally, I got nothing against them. No..I said your sense of humor perpetuates the ignorance tied to the use of a pentagram. My point was that you might laugh at a "slave" joke but I know a lot of people who wouldn't. There is a whole myth tied to the pentagram so now those people who wear it as a symbol of love of earth have to deal with the ignorant majority who continue to see it as some thing negative...which by the way was how you used it. I am not saying you are mounting a anti-pagan campaign..merely pointing out how your "jokes" are spreading ignorance. How bout those burning cross jokes huh???? what? not funny? Of course here is something that may shock and upset you. I have a black cat and I consider all black cats as being a symbol of good luck. BTW, I have known those who practice both Paganism and Wicca and am well versed on what the pentagram symbolizes but satanists also seem to use it as a symbol. First off...I have a black cat too..big deal. That's another stupid myth. Secondly, you aren't well versed in Paganism or Wicca or you wouldn't think the pentagram they use is the same as the inverted one used by the satanist. It's not the same as the star of David either in case that alluded you. One thing I know for sure is that most of those practictioners have a sense of humor and have laughed at some of the jokes. Why? Because they are human and are quite confident in themselves and their practice. They also try to spread postive and not negative. Honestly...I am one of the least "militant" people I know when it comes to this stuff. NONE of the pagans I know appreciate the continued spread of ignorance when it comes to our spirituality. Frankly..I don't think you know any practicing Wiccans. Yes, we walk in the light, are basically positive earth based persons...but having to deal with discrimination because some yahoo got the wrong idea about what a pentagram means from some stupid internet joke will make anyone a little cranky. And when faced with negative they try to turn it into positive. You can try to turn this into a flame war if you want to but no ill will was meant here. It was humor. Nothing more and nothing less. What does W.A.R.D. supposed mean anyway? Ask your witch friends. You have so many that you feel confident you know what they will find funny...should be a simple task. BTW, for those who have non-black cats I am also a member of your society as well as I also have a diluted Tabby. If Agua girl or anyone else wants to be mad about that then there is nothing I can do here. I am simply a cat lover and servent to two cats. Again...I don't care what color your cats are. You could have a pet serpent for all I care. Just stop promoting the idea..even in joke..that the pentagram is something to be feared or means something negative. That's all I asked in the first place. Your the one who got all defensive and assumed that my reaction meant I had no sense of humor. This is a religious symbol. The fact that some satanist invert it much as they do the cross doesn't mean they also "use" the symbol. You can do a lot of harm with your "jokes". If you really do have "pagan" friends then you should be willing to grow a little as a human and avoid "jokes" that could potentially harm. AG |
Ok Agua Girl, I am under the impression you simply do not have a sense of
humor. I did not promote Pagans at all anyway. You seem to want to make more of this than is there. If any Pagans here were offended then I apologize but still it was meant as humor. As for buying a pentagram and wearing it around my neck, I am afraid it wouldn't look as good as a tattoo of one of my cats on me. As for losing a job and a landlord not renewing your lease simply because you are wearing a pentagram seems like nonsense to me. You can't blame life's misfortunes on that. When I was younger our house was toilet papered but you didn't see my cry about it. In my last apartment it was egged by kids who were trouble for the whole complex. I didn't cry about it then either. They ended up getting kicked out of their apartment. Typical life stuff that happens. You say I am not funny but of course you seem to be showing a lack of sense of humor and trying to lable me as ignorant or a bad person. Is it a part of your religion or practice to pass judgment on others? I bet if someone said they worshipped cats you'd find a problem with that, right? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message ... You promoted it. Maybe you should re-read your post. Better yet, buy a pentagram and wear it around your neck for a week or two and watch the reactions. When you lose your job, when your landlord decides not to renew your lease, when your neighbors egg your house... then tell me how funny you find your comments. No..none of those things have happened to me but they are actual cases of religious discriminations all because someone was ignorant about what that symbol means...and your "humor" perpetuates that kind of ignorance. You can get all defensive and blame my lack of "humor" or you can get educated..your choice. BTW, I have a very good sense of humor...you just aren't funny. AG |
Ok Agua Girl, I am under the impression you simply do not have a sense of
humor. I did not promote Pagans at all anyway. You seem to want to make more of this than is there. If any Pagans here were offended then I apologize but still it was meant as humor. As for buying a pentagram and wearing it around my neck, I am afraid it wouldn't look as good as a tattoo of one of my cats on me. As for losing a job and a landlord not renewing your lease simply because you are wearing a pentagram seems like nonsense to me. You can't blame life's misfortunes on that. When I was younger our house was toilet papered but you didn't see my cry about it. In my last apartment it was egged by kids who were trouble for the whole complex. I didn't cry about it then either. They ended up getting kicked out of their apartment. Typical life stuff that happens. You say I am not funny but of course you seem to be showing a lack of sense of humor and trying to lable me as ignorant or a bad person. Is it a part of your religion or practice to pass judgment on others? I bet if someone said they worshipped cats you'd find a problem with that, right? -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message ... You promoted it. Maybe you should re-read your post. Better yet, buy a pentagram and wear it around your neck for a week or two and watch the reactions. When you lose your job, when your landlord decides not to renew your lease, when your neighbors egg your house... then tell me how funny you find your comments. No..none of those things have happened to me but they are actual cases of religious discriminations all because someone was ignorant about what that symbol means...and your "humor" perpetuates that kind of ignorance. You can get all defensive and blame my lack of "humor" or you can get educated..your choice. BTW, I have a very good sense of humor...you just aren't funny. AG |
Cross burning jokes? You have a cross to bear lady? I am so glad you feel
that you must be the know-it-all in everything Pagan but you are incorrect about the Pentagram. It is used as a symbol by Wiccans (which is a Paganistic religion), Pagans and of course satanists. You mention the Star of David which is a Jewish symbol so I guess now you have problem with Jews now right? I have to admit you are certainly entertaining all of us by your left wing posts. You say you are one of the less militant people regarding this stuff yet you have no problem ruthlessly attacking people and call them ignorant or making them out to be the bad guys here when a pentagram is mentioned in a joke. You claim I don't know any practicing Wiccans but you would be incorrect. Get off the warpath here Agua Girl. No harm was even intented to Pagans but yet you seem to insist that it was. Sheesh! Should all of us humans be just like you and totally put an end to humor? But of course that would be offensive to comedians and clowns. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message ... No..I said your sense of humor perpetuates the ignorance tied to the use of a pentagram. My point was that you might laugh at a "slave" joke but I know a lot of people who wouldn't. There is a whole myth tied to the pentagram so now those people who wear it as a symbol of love of earth have to deal with the ignorant majority who continue to see it as some thing negative...which by the way was how you used it. I am not saying you are mounting a anti-pagan campaign..merely pointing out how your "jokes" are spreading ignorance. How bout those burning cross jokes huh???? what? not funny? First off...I have a black cat too..big deal. That's another stupid myth. Secondly, you aren't well versed in Paganism or Wicca or you wouldn't think the pentagram they use is the same as the inverted one used by the satanist. It's not the same as the star of David either in case that alluded you. Honestly...I am one of the least "militant" people I know when it comes to this stuff. NONE of the pagans I know appreciate the continued spread of ignorance when it comes to our spirituality. Frankly..I don't think you know any practicing Wiccans. Yes, we walk in the light, are basically positive earth based persons...but having to deal with discrimination because some yahoo got the wrong idea about what a pentagram means from some stupid internet joke will make anyone a little cranky. Ask your witch friends. You have so many that you feel confident you know what they will find funny...should be a simple task. BTW, for those who have non-black cats I am also a member of your society as well as I also have a diluted Tabby. If Agua girl or anyone else wants to be mad about that then there is nothing I can do here. I am simply a cat lover and servent to two cats. Again...I don't care what color your cats are. You could have a pet serpent for all I care. Just stop promoting the idea..even in joke..that the pentagram is something to be feared or means something negative. That's all I asked in the first place. Your the one who got all defensive and assumed that my reaction meant I had no sense of humor. This is a religious symbol. The fact that some satanist invert it much as they do the cross doesn't mean they also "use" the symbol. You can do a lot of harm with your "jokes". If you really do have "pagan" friends then you should be willing to grow a little as a human and avoid "jokes" that could potentially harm. AG |
Cross burning jokes? You have a cross to bear lady? I am so glad you feel
that you must be the know-it-all in everything Pagan but you are incorrect about the Pentagram. It is used as a symbol by Wiccans (which is a Paganistic religion), Pagans and of course satanists. You mention the Star of David which is a Jewish symbol so I guess now you have problem with Jews now right? I have to admit you are certainly entertaining all of us by your left wing posts. You say you are one of the less militant people regarding this stuff yet you have no problem ruthlessly attacking people and call them ignorant or making them out to be the bad guys here when a pentagram is mentioned in a joke. You claim I don't know any practicing Wiccans but you would be incorrect. Get off the warpath here Agua Girl. No harm was even intented to Pagans but yet you seem to insist that it was. Sheesh! Should all of us humans be just like you and totally put an end to humor? But of course that would be offensive to comedians and clowns. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message ... No..I said your sense of humor perpetuates the ignorance tied to the use of a pentagram. My point was that you might laugh at a "slave" joke but I know a lot of people who wouldn't. There is a whole myth tied to the pentagram so now those people who wear it as a symbol of love of earth have to deal with the ignorant majority who continue to see it as some thing negative...which by the way was how you used it. I am not saying you are mounting a anti-pagan campaign..merely pointing out how your "jokes" are spreading ignorance. How bout those burning cross jokes huh???? what? not funny? First off...I have a black cat too..big deal. That's another stupid myth. Secondly, you aren't well versed in Paganism or Wicca or you wouldn't think the pentagram they use is the same as the inverted one used by the satanist. It's not the same as the star of David either in case that alluded you. Honestly...I am one of the least "militant" people I know when it comes to this stuff. NONE of the pagans I know appreciate the continued spread of ignorance when it comes to our spirituality. Frankly..I don't think you know any practicing Wiccans. Yes, we walk in the light, are basically positive earth based persons...but having to deal with discrimination because some yahoo got the wrong idea about what a pentagram means from some stupid internet joke will make anyone a little cranky. Ask your witch friends. You have so many that you feel confident you know what they will find funny...should be a simple task. BTW, for those who have non-black cats I am also a member of your society as well as I also have a diluted Tabby. If Agua girl or anyone else wants to be mad about that then there is nothing I can do here. I am simply a cat lover and servent to two cats. Again...I don't care what color your cats are. You could have a pet serpent for all I care. Just stop promoting the idea..even in joke..that the pentagram is something to be feared or means something negative. That's all I asked in the first place. Your the one who got all defensive and assumed that my reaction meant I had no sense of humor. This is a religious symbol. The fact that some satanist invert it much as they do the cross doesn't mean they also "use" the symbol. You can do a lot of harm with your "jokes". If you really do have "pagan" friends then you should be willing to grow a little as a human and avoid "jokes" that could potentially harm. AG |
CP wrote:
I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. I have had problems with them also, and some (not all) of them just don't want to take no for an answer. My mother had one come to her door years ago and when she said "no thank you" and tried to close the door he stuck his foot in the door, and prevented her from closing it. Unfortunately for him the dog we had at the time didn't like that move and promptly grabbed hold of his shoe and held on! (60 lbs. of dog). As soon as my mother told him to let go he did and the man quickly withdrew his foot. LOL Also I had a male coworker who told me this story: A couple of them came to his door just after he got out of the shower, he was only wearing a towel. He told them that he was very interested in what they had to say and asked if they would please come back later so they could talk to both HIM and his HUSBAND!! They just started at him with open mouths and then turned and walked away quickly. Luckily we live well off the beaten path and have only had them show up here twice in 15 years. One group left with no problem, but the other bunch tried harder and didn't want to give it up and had to be "run" off with a threat of our dogs being let out of the house. (3 large ones that met them at the door that would have licked them to death but LOL they didn't know that). Nadine |
CP wrote:
I am not a fan of Jehovah's Witnesses since they make it a point to come to your house to quote the bible when you clearly did not ask them to. Here are a some excuses or questions one can use to get rid of them. I have had problems with them also, and some (not all) of them just don't want to take no for an answer. My mother had one come to her door years ago and when she said "no thank you" and tried to close the door he stuck his foot in the door, and prevented her from closing it. Unfortunately for him the dog we had at the time didn't like that move and promptly grabbed hold of his shoe and held on! (60 lbs. of dog). As soon as my mother told him to let go he did and the man quickly withdrew his foot. LOL Also I had a male coworker who told me this story: A couple of them came to his door just after he got out of the shower, he was only wearing a towel. He told them that he was very interested in what they had to say and asked if they would please come back later so they could talk to both HIM and his HUSBAND!! They just started at him with open mouths and then turned and walked away quickly. Luckily we live well off the beaten path and have only had them show up here twice in 15 years. One group left with no problem, but the other bunch tried harder and didn't want to give it up and had to be "run" off with a threat of our dogs being let out of the house. (3 large ones that met them at the door that would have licked them to death but LOL they didn't know that). Nadine |
"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:fpg9b.4798$v%5.3384@fed1read02... Cross burning jokes? You have a cross to bear lady? I am so glad you feel that you must be the know-it-all in everything Pagan but you are incorrect about the Pentagram. It is used as a symbol by Wiccans (which is a Paganistic religion), Pagans and of course satanists. You mention the Star of David which is a Jewish symbol so I guess now you have problem with Jews now right? I have to admit you are certainly entertaining all of us by your left wing posts. You say you are one of the less militant people regarding this stuff yet you have no problem ruthlessly attacking people and call them ignorant or making them out to be the bad guys here when a pentagram is mentioned in a joke. You claim I don't know any practicing Wiccans but you would be incorrect. Get off the warpath here Agua Girl. No harm was even intented to Pagans but yet you seem to insist that it was. Sheesh! Should all of us humans be just like you and totally put an end to humor? But of course that would be offensive to comedians and clowns. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. There is nothing wrong with being ignorant..we can't all know everything. The problem is with allowing ignorance to continue. I don't have a cross to bear....but you do. (btw..you missed the point of that completely) You seem to think that continuing to spread ignorance through what you see as harmless jokes should be fine. I offered you the chance to right a wrong..to stop spreading myths and you got offended. I suggested you get informed..and you got indignant. Go to a website on paganism and look at their pentacle or pentagram than go to a devil worship site and look at theirs. They aren't the same. The reason I brought up the star of David is because it also looks similar..but it isn't. You don't want to accept the truth of your ignorance or lack of knowledge and that shows more than ignorance.... I thought at first no harm was intended...and my response was to let you know that religious persecution does indeed exist. People really do lose their jobs and their apartments for NO REASON other than their religious leanings. That spreading myths does indeed harm no matter what the intent. When someone says "ow, your standing on my foot"..the proper response is to apologize and back up. Not explain how you didn't mean to...blame the person for lacking hard feet and then go on complaining about how everyone has big feet. (that was a metaphor for stepping on my religion in case you didn't get it). Whatever. You obviously don't care to correct your lack of knowledge or even accept that your "jokes" are spreading a myth that to this day is harmful. I shudder to think what else you find funny. To that end... I am done. You can't inform those that bask in their ignorance and wear stupidity like a cloak. plonk AG |
"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:fpg9b.4798$v%5.3384@fed1read02... Cross burning jokes? You have a cross to bear lady? I am so glad you feel that you must be the know-it-all in everything Pagan but you are incorrect about the Pentagram. It is used as a symbol by Wiccans (which is a Paganistic religion), Pagans and of course satanists. You mention the Star of David which is a Jewish symbol so I guess now you have problem with Jews now right? I have to admit you are certainly entertaining all of us by your left wing posts. You say you are one of the less militant people regarding this stuff yet you have no problem ruthlessly attacking people and call them ignorant or making them out to be the bad guys here when a pentagram is mentioned in a joke. You claim I don't know any practicing Wiccans but you would be incorrect. Get off the warpath here Agua Girl. No harm was even intented to Pagans but yet you seem to insist that it was. Sheesh! Should all of us humans be just like you and totally put an end to humor? But of course that would be offensive to comedians and clowns. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. There is nothing wrong with being ignorant..we can't all know everything. The problem is with allowing ignorance to continue. I don't have a cross to bear....but you do. (btw..you missed the point of that completely) You seem to think that continuing to spread ignorance through what you see as harmless jokes should be fine. I offered you the chance to right a wrong..to stop spreading myths and you got offended. I suggested you get informed..and you got indignant. Go to a website on paganism and look at their pentacle or pentagram than go to a devil worship site and look at theirs. They aren't the same. The reason I brought up the star of David is because it also looks similar..but it isn't. You don't want to accept the truth of your ignorance or lack of knowledge and that shows more than ignorance.... I thought at first no harm was intended...and my response was to let you know that religious persecution does indeed exist. People really do lose their jobs and their apartments for NO REASON other than their religious leanings. That spreading myths does indeed harm no matter what the intent. When someone says "ow, your standing on my foot"..the proper response is to apologize and back up. Not explain how you didn't mean to...blame the person for lacking hard feet and then go on complaining about how everyone has big feet. (that was a metaphor for stepping on my religion in case you didn't get it). Whatever. You obviously don't care to correct your lack of knowledge or even accept that your "jokes" are spreading a myth that to this day is harmful. I shudder to think what else you find funny. To that end... I am done. You can't inform those that bask in their ignorance and wear stupidity like a cloak. plonk AG |
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