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J. Marz June 9th 04 07:02 PM

Bewa coyotes killing cats
 
http://www.townonline.com/medford/ne...pc06092004.htm

June 9 2004

Sampson said coyotes can be infected with rabies, but it is extremely
rare. Statewide, there have been only two documented cases of coyotes
with rabies since 1994. And it is almost unheard of for the coyotes to
attack humans in New England.

"I wouldn't worry too much about coyotes as far as human interaction,"
he said.

Cats and small dogs, on the other hand, can easily become prey for the
coyotes.

"We have had quite a few cats come up missing in the city," said
Sampson. "I know a few have been eaten by coyotes; there is no doubt
about that."

One feline victim was owned by Joe Testa, a resident of Allan Dale
Road. He woke one morning in late May to discover that his family's
calico cat had been killed, most likely by a coyote.

Testa didn't see the coyote, but there have been a handful of coyote
sightings around Norwich Circle, which is where the cat's remains were
found. The cat, said Testa, had obviously been killed and eaten by
another animal.

The cat, named JJ, had been part of the Testa family for 10 years.

"Our two little kids were crying; they were sad," said Testa, a father
to daughters ages 5 and 7. "When my daughters were babies, the cat was
already in the house."

J. Marz June 9th 04 07:02 PM

http://www.townonline.com/medford/ne...pc06092004.htm

June 9 2004

Sampson said coyotes can be infected with rabies, but it is extremely
rare. Statewide, there have been only two documented cases of coyotes
with rabies since 1994. And it is almost unheard of for the coyotes to
attack humans in New England.

"I wouldn't worry too much about coyotes as far as human interaction,"
he said.

Cats and small dogs, on the other hand, can easily become prey for the
coyotes.

"We have had quite a few cats come up missing in the city," said
Sampson. "I know a few have been eaten by coyotes; there is no doubt
about that."

One feline victim was owned by Joe Testa, a resident of Allan Dale
Road. He woke one morning in late May to discover that his family's
calico cat had been killed, most likely by a coyote.

Testa didn't see the coyote, but there have been a handful of coyote
sightings around Norwich Circle, which is where the cat's remains were
found. The cat, said Testa, had obviously been killed and eaten by
another animal.

The cat, named JJ, had been part of the Testa family for 10 years.

"Our two little kids were crying; they were sad," said Testa, a father
to daughters ages 5 and 7. "When my daughters were babies, the cat was
already in the house."

Tim Farrow June 9th 04 09:23 PM

That's why people with brains don't move where coyotes live if they have
cats.


"J. Marz" wrote in message
om...

http://www.townonline.com/medford/ne...pc06092004.htm

June 9 2004

Sampson said coyotes can be infected with rabies, but it is extremely
rare. Statewide, there have been only two documented cases of coyotes
with rabies since 1994. And it is almost unheard of for the coyotes to
attack humans in New England.

"I wouldn't worry too much about coyotes as far as human interaction,"
he said.

Cats and small dogs, on the other hand, can easily become prey for the
coyotes.

"We have had quite a few cats come up missing in the city," said
Sampson. "I know a few have been eaten by coyotes; there is no doubt
about that."

One feline victim was owned by Joe Testa, a resident of Allan Dale
Road. He woke one morning in late May to discover that his family's
calico cat had been killed, most likely by a coyote.

Testa didn't see the coyote, but there have been a handful of coyote
sightings around Norwich Circle, which is where the cat's remains were
found. The cat, said Testa, had obviously been killed and eaten by
another animal.

The cat, named JJ, had been part of the Testa family for 10 years.

"Our two little kids were crying; they were sad," said Testa, a father
to daughters ages 5 and 7. "When my daughters were babies, the cat was
already in the house."




Tim Farrow June 9th 04 09:23 PM

That's why people with brains don't move where coyotes live if they have
cats.


"J. Marz" wrote in message
om...

http://www.townonline.com/medford/ne...pc06092004.htm

June 9 2004

Sampson said coyotes can be infected with rabies, but it is extremely
rare. Statewide, there have been only two documented cases of coyotes
with rabies since 1994. And it is almost unheard of for the coyotes to
attack humans in New England.

"I wouldn't worry too much about coyotes as far as human interaction,"
he said.

Cats and small dogs, on the other hand, can easily become prey for the
coyotes.

"We have had quite a few cats come up missing in the city," said
Sampson. "I know a few have been eaten by coyotes; there is no doubt
about that."

One feline victim was owned by Joe Testa, a resident of Allan Dale
Road. He woke one morning in late May to discover that his family's
calico cat had been killed, most likely by a coyote.

Testa didn't see the coyote, but there have been a handful of coyote
sightings around Norwich Circle, which is where the cat's remains were
found. The cat, said Testa, had obviously been killed and eaten by
another animal.

The cat, named JJ, had been part of the Testa family for 10 years.

"Our two little kids were crying; they were sad," said Testa, a father
to daughters ages 5 and 7. "When my daughters were babies, the cat was
already in the house."




The Bulldog June 10th 04 01:08 AM


"Tim Farrow" wrote in message
. com...
That's why people with brains don't move where coyotes live if they have
cats.



Hey douchbag, when I moved here 26 years ago, we didn't have coyotes around
here. But with the urban sprawl and all, the coyotes have moved in. Only a
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild. A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let their
cat out to be killed...

People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes, James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...

Growling at the world,

Bulldog...



The Bulldog June 10th 04 01:08 AM


"Tim Farrow" wrote in message
. com...
That's why people with brains don't move where coyotes live if they have
cats.



Hey douchbag, when I moved here 26 years ago, we didn't have coyotes around
here. But with the urban sprawl and all, the coyotes have moved in. Only a
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild. A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let their
cat out to be killed...

People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes, James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...

Growling at the world,

Bulldog...



J. Marz June 10th 04 01:23 AM

The Bulldog wrote;


"Tim Farrow" wrote in message

. com...
That's why people with brains don't move where coyotes live if they have
cats.



Hey douchbag, when I moved here 26 years ago, we didn't have coyotes around
here. But with the urban sprawl and all, the coyotes have moved in. Only a
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild. A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let their
cat out to be killed...


People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes, James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...


Growling at the world,


Bulldog...


ROFL!! Well put Bulldog!

James Marz

Born in lust, turn to dust.
Born in sin? come on in! - Stephen King

J. Marz June 10th 04 01:23 AM

The Bulldog wrote;


"Tim Farrow" wrote in message

. com...
That's why people with brains don't move where coyotes live if they have
cats.



Hey douchbag, when I moved here 26 years ago, we didn't have coyotes around
here. But with the urban sprawl and all, the coyotes have moved in. Only a
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild. A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let their
cat out to be killed...


People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes, James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...


Growling at the world,


Bulldog...


ROFL!! Well put Bulldog!

James Marz

Born in lust, turn to dust.
Born in sin? come on in! - Stephen King

Cat Protector June 10th 04 07:10 AM

I would have swerved to avoid the cat. A motorcycle is something that can be
replaced, a life can't.

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"The Bulldog" wrote in message
news:UDNxc.7000
Hey douchbag, when I moved here 26 years ago, we didn't have coyotes

around
here. But with the urban sprawl and all, the coyotes have moved in. Only

a
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild

animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild. A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not

intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let

their
cat out to be killed...

People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes,

James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...

Growling at the world,

Bulldog...





Cat Protector June 10th 04 07:10 AM

I would have swerved to avoid the cat. A motorcycle is something that can be
replaced, a life can't.

--
Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"The Bulldog" wrote in message
news:UDNxc.7000
Hey douchbag, when I moved here 26 years ago, we didn't have coyotes

around
here. But with the urban sprawl and all, the coyotes have moved in. Only

a
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild

animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild. A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not

intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let

their
cat out to be killed...

People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes,

James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...

Growling at the world,

Bulldog...





Cat Protector June 10th 04 07:10 AM

I would have swerved to avoid the cat. A motorcycle is something that can be
replaced, a life can't.

--
Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"The Bulldog" wrote in message
news:UDNxc.7000
Hey douchbag, when I moved here 26 years ago, we didn't have coyotes

around
here. But with the urban sprawl and all, the coyotes have moved in. Only

a
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild

animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild. A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not

intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let

their
cat out to be killed...

People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes,

James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...

Growling at the world,

Bulldog...





grumpus June 11th 04 04:08 AM

Cat Protector wrote:

I would have swerved to avoid the cat. A motorcycle is something that can
be replaced, a life can't.


coyetes, like motorcycles, are higher than cats.

grumpus June 11th 04 04:08 AM

Cat Protector wrote:

I would have swerved to avoid the cat. A motorcycle is something that can
be replaced, a life can't.


coyetes, like motorcycles, are higher than cats.

grumpus June 11th 04 04:08 AM

Cat Protector wrote:

I would have swerved to avoid the cat. A motorcycle is something that can
be replaced, a life can't.


coyetes, like motorcycles, are higher than cats.

Cat Protector June 11th 04 05:20 AM

Just another troller who just doesn't get it. But troller or not, I believe
a cat is more precious a life and is not to be treated like an object.

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"grumpus" wrote in message
...

coyetes, like motorcycles, are higher than cats.




Cat Protector June 11th 04 05:20 AM

Just another troller who just doesn't get it. But troller or not, I believe
a cat is more precious a life and is not to be treated like an object.

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"grumpus" wrote in message
...

coyetes, like motorcycles, are higher than cats.




Cat Protector June 11th 04 05:20 AM

Just another troller who just doesn't get it. But troller or not, I believe
a cat is more precious a life and is not to be treated like an object.

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Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
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"grumpus" wrote in message
...

coyetes, like motorcycles, are higher than cats.




gertrude June 11th 04 08:56 PM

There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm

And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


"J. Marz" wrote in message
om...

http://www.townonline.com/medford/ne...tcoyotespc0609
2004.htm

June 9 2004

Sampson said coyotes can be infected with rabies, but it is extremely
rare. Statewide, there have been only two documented cases of coyotes
with rabies since 1994. And it is almost unheard of for the coyotes to
attack humans in New England.

"I wouldn't worry too much about coyotes as far as human interaction,"
he said.

Cats and small dogs, on the other hand, can easily become prey for the
coyotes.

"We have had quite a few cats come up missing in the city," said
Sampson. "I know a few have been eaten by coyotes; there is no doubt
about that."

One feline victim was owned by Joe Testa, a resident of Allan Dale
Road. He woke one morning in late May to discover that his family's
calico cat had been killed, most likely by a coyote.

Testa didn't see the coyote, but there have been a handful of coyote
sightings around Norwich Circle, which is where the cat's remains were
found. The cat, said Testa, had obviously been killed and eaten by
another animal.

The cat, named JJ, had been part of the Testa family for 10 years.

"Our two little kids were crying; they were sad," said Testa, a father
to daughters ages 5 and 7. "When my daughters were babies, the cat was
already in the house."




gertrude June 11th 04 08:56 PM

There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm

And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


"J. Marz" wrote in message
om...

http://www.townonline.com/medford/ne...tcoyotespc0609
2004.htm

June 9 2004

Sampson said coyotes can be infected with rabies, but it is extremely
rare. Statewide, there have been only two documented cases of coyotes
with rabies since 1994. And it is almost unheard of for the coyotes to
attack humans in New England.

"I wouldn't worry too much about coyotes as far as human interaction,"
he said.

Cats and small dogs, on the other hand, can easily become prey for the
coyotes.

"We have had quite a few cats come up missing in the city," said
Sampson. "I know a few have been eaten by coyotes; there is no doubt
about that."

One feline victim was owned by Joe Testa, a resident of Allan Dale
Road. He woke one morning in late May to discover that his family's
calico cat had been killed, most likely by a coyote.

Testa didn't see the coyote, but there have been a handful of coyote
sightings around Norwich Circle, which is where the cat's remains were
found. The cat, said Testa, had obviously been killed and eaten by
another animal.

The cat, named JJ, had been part of the Testa family for 10 years.

"Our two little kids were crying; they were sad," said Testa, a father
to daughters ages 5 and 7. "When my daughters were babies, the cat was
already in the house."




gertrude June 11th 04 08:56 PM

There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm

And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


"J. Marz" wrote in message
om...

http://www.townonline.com/medford/ne...tcoyotespc0609
2004.htm

June 9 2004

Sampson said coyotes can be infected with rabies, but it is extremely
rare. Statewide, there have been only two documented cases of coyotes
with rabies since 1994. And it is almost unheard of for the coyotes to
attack humans in New England.

"I wouldn't worry too much about coyotes as far as human interaction,"
he said.

Cats and small dogs, on the other hand, can easily become prey for the
coyotes.

"We have had quite a few cats come up missing in the city," said
Sampson. "I know a few have been eaten by coyotes; there is no doubt
about that."

One feline victim was owned by Joe Testa, a resident of Allan Dale
Road. He woke one morning in late May to discover that his family's
calico cat had been killed, most likely by a coyote.

Testa didn't see the coyote, but there have been a handful of coyote
sightings around Norwich Circle, which is where the cat's remains were
found. The cat, said Testa, had obviously been killed and eaten by
another animal.

The cat, named JJ, had been part of the Testa family for 10 years.

"Our two little kids were crying; they were sad," said Testa, a father
to daughters ages 5 and 7. "When my daughters were babies, the cat was
already in the house."




TCS June 11th 04 09:19 PM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


TCS June 11th 04 09:19 PM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


TCS June 11th 04 09:19 PM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


gertrude June 11th 04 09:36 PM


"TCS" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while

the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a

pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think

the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


The man was not being attacked, and his dog was still untouched by the
aggressive cougars at the time he aimed and fired.



gertrude June 11th 04 09:36 PM


"TCS" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while

the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a

pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think

the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


The man was not being attacked, and his dog was still untouched by the
aggressive cougars at the time he aimed and fired.



gertrude June 11th 04 09:36 PM


"TCS" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while

the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a

pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think

the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


The man was not being attacked, and his dog was still untouched by the
aggressive cougars at the time he aimed and fired.



TCS June 11th 04 09:52 PM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:36:14 GMT, gertrude wrote:

"TCS" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while

the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a

pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think

the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


The man was not being attacked, and his dog was still untouched by the
aggressive cougars at the time he aimed and fired.


And how would that prevent his dog from being lunch the next time the
cougers showed up?

Please explain how the guy "could've driven off the two cougers".


TCS June 11th 04 09:52 PM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:36:14 GMT, gertrude wrote:

"TCS" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while

the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a

pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think

the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


The man was not being attacked, and his dog was still untouched by the
aggressive cougars at the time he aimed and fired.


And how would that prevent his dog from being lunch the next time the
cougers showed up?

Please explain how the guy "could've driven off the two cougers".


TCS June 11th 04 09:52 PM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:36:14 GMT, gertrude wrote:

"TCS" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while

the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a

pistol,
and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think

the
guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have been
necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


The man was not being attacked, and his dog was still untouched by the
aggressive cougars at the time he aimed and fired.


And how would that prevent his dog from being lunch the next time the
cougers showed up?

Please explain how the guy "could've driven off the two cougers".


Steve G June 11th 04 11:11 PM

"The Bulldog" wrote in message om...
(...)
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild.


Some other things that 'disrupt the natural order of things': cars,
houses, roads, electricity. Let's all go and live in a ditch.

Cats are not indoor animals, they have not been bred as such. To allow
a cat adequately safe outdoor access is the ideal.

A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let their
cat out to be killed...


Your third option was to be a competent enough rider to be able to
avoid hazards. On the other hand, maybe you ride an absurd
cruiser-behomoth that requires advance written warnings in order to
change direction?


People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes, James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...


Long and healthy, but in an impoverished environment - unless you are
taking great pains to improve same.

S.

Steve G June 11th 04 11:11 PM

"The Bulldog" wrote in message om...
(...)
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild.


Some other things that 'disrupt the natural order of things': cars,
houses, roads, electricity. Let's all go and live in a ditch.

Cats are not indoor animals, they have not been bred as such. To allow
a cat adequately safe outdoor access is the ideal.

A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let their
cat out to be killed...


Your third option was to be a competent enough rider to be able to
avoid hazards. On the other hand, maybe you ride an absurd
cruiser-behomoth that requires advance written warnings in order to
change direction?


People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes, James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...


Long and healthy, but in an impoverished environment - unless you are
taking great pains to improve same.

S.

Steve G June 11th 04 11:11 PM

"The Bulldog" wrote in message om...
(...)
moron would let their cat out to die in the wild. Cats are not wild animals
and disrupt the natural order of things outside in the wild.


Some other things that 'disrupt the natural order of things': cars,
houses, roads, electricity. Let's all go and live in a ditch.

Cats are not indoor animals, they have not been bred as such. To allow
a cat adequately safe outdoor access is the ideal.

A few weeks
ago while on my motorcycle, I nailed someone's cat. It was not intentional,
the damn moron ran out in front of me and I had two choices. Nail the cat
or dump the bike... The bike is not going down because some moron let their
cat out to be killed...


Your third option was to be a competent enough rider to be able to
avoid hazards. On the other hand, maybe you ride an absurd
cruiser-behomoth that requires advance written warnings in order to
change direction?


People who love their cats don't let them out to be killed by coyotes, James
Marz and traffic... Keep the kitty in the house where it belongs... My
little gray kitty will live a long and healthy life without ever going
outside...


Long and healthy, but in an impoverished environment - unless you are
taking great pains to improve same.

S.

grumpus June 12th 04 02:06 AM

TCS wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a
pistol, and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think
the guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have
been necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


depends, are you bigger than the animal?

Ever been attacked by a pittbul, be bigger than pitbull, forced pitbull to
understand canine throats dont like chokeholds?

grumpus June 12th 04 02:06 AM

TCS wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a
pistol, and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think
the guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have
been necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


depends, are you bigger than the animal?

Ever been attacked by a pittbul, be bigger than pitbull, forced pitbull to
understand canine throats dont like chokeholds?

grumpus June 12th 04 02:06 AM

TCS wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a
pistol, and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think
the guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have
been necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


depends, are you bigger than the animal?

Ever been attacked by a pittbul, be bigger than pitbull, forced pitbull to
understand canine throats dont like chokeholds?

TCS June 12th 04 02:49 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:06:39 -0400, grumpus wrote:
TCS wrote:


On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a
pistol, and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think
the guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have
been necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


depends, are you bigger than the animal?


Ever been attacked by a pittbul, be bigger than pitbull, forced pitbull to
understand canine throats dont like chokeholds?


sure. I'm sure you'd have no problem's taking on two angry cougers.
Where were you when that guy needed you?

here on planet earth, most human's wouldn't take any changes around cougers.

TCS June 12th 04 02:49 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:06:39 -0400, grumpus wrote:
TCS wrote:


On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a
pistol, and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think
the guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have
been necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


depends, are you bigger than the animal?


Ever been attacked by a pittbul, be bigger than pitbull, forced pitbull to
understand canine throats dont like chokeholds?


sure. I'm sure you'd have no problem's taking on two angry cougers.
Where were you when that guy needed you?

here on planet earth, most human's wouldn't take any changes around cougers.

TCS June 12th 04 02:49 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:06:39 -0400, grumpus wrote:
TCS wrote:


On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:56:02 GMT, gertrude wrote:
There's something worse for housecats than coyotes: immature cougars that
are too young to prey on deer. See
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/05/odds_cat.htm


And about 18 months ago there was a case in Washington state of a pair of
sub-adult cougars travelling together who were after a man's dog while the
man and dog were at his lake property. One of those cougars had a dead
housecat in its mouth. The guy went back to his truck, pulled out a
pistol, and shot both cougars dead. According to the interview of some law
enforcement official the guy was within his rights. Personally, I think
the guy could've driven off the two cougars. Killing them shouldn't have
been necessary. What an AH :-(


Have you ever tried to drive off a pair of cougers?
Do you think you could aim a gun to disable at an animal lunging for your
throat at 50mph? Twice?
Easier said than done.


depends, are you bigger than the animal?


Ever been attacked by a pittbul, be bigger than pitbull, forced pitbull to
understand canine throats dont like chokeholds?


sure. I'm sure you'd have no problem's taking on two angry cougers.
Where were you when that guy needed you?

here on planet earth, most human's wouldn't take any changes around cougers.

The Bulldog June 13th 04 04:17 AM


"Cat Protector" wrote in message
news:8XSxc.16925$W01.11253@okepread01...
I would have swerved to avoid the cat. A motorcycle is something that can

be
replaced, a life can't.


Your right. My life cannot be replaced, so I nailed the cat... I'm sure
the idiots who let fluffy out have already replaced it... Get a life you
douchbag...


Bulldog...



The Bulldog June 13th 04 04:17 AM


"Cat Protector" wrote in message
news:8XSxc.16925$W01.11253@okepread01...
I would have swerved to avoid the cat. A motorcycle is something that can

be
replaced, a life can't.


Your right. My life cannot be replaced, so I nailed the cat... I'm sure
the idiots who let fluffy out have already replaced it... Get a life you
douchbag...


Bulldog...




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