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You're right, that was a horrible picture to watch. But, please take into
account that it was a healthy kitten being drowned, not one that was
seriously injured, in extreme pain and bleeding to death. You tell me there
wouldn't be any difference.

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:13:33 -0400, Upscale wrote:

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
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You're right, that was a horrible picture to watch. But, please take
into account that it was a healthy kitten being drowned, not one that
was seriously injured, in extreme pain and bleeding to death. You tell
me there wouldn't be any difference.

Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for
an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing. If a vet
isn't available, a gunshot or a crushing blow to the skull, with a large
hammer, are merciful ways to kill an injured small animal. Wringing the
neck is acceptable for birds, if it's done properly. I have been over
this unpleasant subject with veterinarians and biologists because I've
had to put down domestic animals as well as injured wildlife, and I
wanted to do it right.

Charlie

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That was disgusting. I wept for one of the Lord's creatures seemingly
drowned for no reason. REAL tears and I'm a 56 year old guy.
I got my Tiger when I saved him from a drowning.
I was out walking and a guy was drowning a litter - Tiger's little brothers
and sisters were semi-floating - already gone, when I stumbled on this.
I gave the guy such a kicking and knocking about. Tiger can't have been more
than four weeks when I saved him.
I went back and collected the other four later and buried them.
Tiger's five now, he's my best buddy. I wonder if he remembers? He's SO
affectionate.
Whoever made that video should be drowned themselves.
*******s.

Hughie



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On 22 Aug, 12:28, "Shug" wrote:
That was disgusting. I wept for one of the Lord's creatures seemingly
drowned for no reason. REAL tears and I'm a 56 year old guy.
I got my Tiger when I saved him from a drowning.
I was out walking and a guy was drowning a litter - Tiger's little brothers
and sisters were semi-floating - already gone, when I stumbled on this.
I gave the guy such a kicking and knocking about. Tiger can't have been more
than four weeks when I saved him.
I went back and collected the other four later and buried them.
Tiger's five now, he's my best buddy. I wonder if he remembers? He's SO
affectionate.
Whoever made that video should be drowned themselves.
*******s.

Hughie

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i agree and good for you for saving the little fella, he will give you
unconditional love forever and you now have a friend for life.
if it is going to be difficult to home your kittens then have your cat
spayed or neutered in the first place, there is no excuse for nto
doing so these days. a little while a go there was a 'free neutering
week' being run by local animal rescue society round here (local
branch of RSPCA) and anyway if you get a cat from the cats protection
they will get you cheaper neutering.
there si no reason to kill a healthy kitten, give it a home yourself
since it is probably your fault it was born way if you could not be
bothered to get your cat 'sorted' in the first place.

hugs and kisses to little tiger, bless his furry little heart, i hope
you are together for a long time to come.
bookie

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Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for
an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing.

Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the
"humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and
left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later
posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun".
You're just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here
longer than 5 minutes knows it.

You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves
why. Asshole.

-L.

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On 22 Aug, 22:01, "-L." wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for
an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing.

Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the
"humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and
left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later
posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun".
You're just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here
longer than 5 minutes knows it.

You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves
why. Asshole.

-L.

what?

are you serious?

he with held food from a dog for 3 days??!!?? as a 'punishment'??!!!

dogs do not need punishing, they do not do things which require
punishing, if they do something which we find unacceptable then they
will nto hav done it out of malice or just to be 'naughty' or 'bad',
all they need is better training and to know what is acceptable using
POSITIVE reinforcement. by punishing a dog all you get is a ocnfused,
stressed and unhappy dog who will probably go on to produce even more
unacceptable behaviours out of confusion (which will again of course
be interpreted by some idiot human as the dog being naughty and said
canine will probably then be punished for doing somethign he didn't
know was 'wrong' in the first place but which is his way of coping
with stress of an uncaring owner, and thus the cycle begins and
spirals out of control).

when people come out with crap like 'that dog needs to be punished' it
is usually the owners who need to be punished for not training their
dog properly and not being consistent in their approach, that is the
bottom line. Dogs just want to please their owners and be accepted and
be part of the pack and the family, they would not knowlingly do
anything which would anger theri 'master' or cause them to be ousted
from the pack would they? anyone who thinks otherwise should get a
grip, and definintely NOT get a dog.

oh god I'm off again, i just can't bear the idea of some poor
frightened confused dog, wondering why on earth the master he loves so
much is treating him this way and what on earth he has done to get
this treatment, it just makes my heart weep. people who want to have a
dog shoudl think about what the world looks like from the dog's
perspective first and how the behaviours and actions of humans will be
interpreted by the dog, and first and foremost accept that dogs are
not capable of willfully doing 'evil' and 'naughty' things.

christ alive, this has totally ruined my day now

bookie

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:00:28 -0700, bookie wrote:

On 22 Aug, 22:01, "-L." wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way
for an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing.

Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the
"humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and
left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later
posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun". You're
just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here longer
than 5 minutes knows it.

You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves
why. Asshole.

-L.

what?

are you serious?

he with held food from a dog for 3 days??!!?? as a 'punishment'??!!!

No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed
out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of
getting shot.


dogs do not need punishing, they do not do things which require
punishing, if they do something which we find unacceptable then they
will nto hav done it out of malice or just to be 'naughty' or 'bad', all
they need is better training and to know what is acceptable using
POSITIVE reinforcement. by punishing a dog all you get is a ocnfused,
stressed and unhappy dog who will probably go on to produce even more
unacceptable behaviours out of confusion (which will again of course be
interpreted by some idiot human as the dog being naughty and said canine
will probably then be punished for doing somethign he didn't know was
'wrong' in the first place but which is his way of coping with stress of
an uncaring owner, and thus the cycle begins and spirals out of
control).

when people come out with crap like 'that dog needs to be punished' it
is usually the owners who need to be punished for not training their dog
properly and not being consistent in their approach, that is the bottom
line. Dogs just want to please their owners and be accepted and be part
of the pack and the family, they would not knowlingly do anything which
would anger theri 'master' or cause them to be ousted from the pack
would they? anyone who thinks otherwise should get a grip, and
definintely NOT get a dog.

oh god I'm off again, i just can't bear the idea of some poor frightened
confused dog, wondering why on earth the master he loves so much is
treating him this way and what on earth he has done to get this
treatment, it just makes my heart weep. people who want to have a dog
shoudl think about what the world looks like from the dog's perspective
first and how the behaviours and actions of humans will be interpreted
by the dog, and first and foremost accept that dogs are not capable of
willfully doing 'evil' and 'naughty' things.

christ alive, this has totally ruined my day now

Yeah, well the good news is the dog was killed, probably by a neighbor,
in my own front yard, so you can sleep tight knowing I got my comeuppance.

Charlie

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"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
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Yeah, well the good news is the dog was killed, probably by a neighbor,
in my own front yard, so you can sleep tight knowing I got my comeuppance.

Charlie

You are clearly a sick asshole obsessed with killing small animals. Go find
some other group to antagonize, or better yet kill yourself.

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On 23 Aug, 01:29, Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:00:28 -0700, bookie wrote:
On 22 Aug, 22:01, "-L." wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way
for an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing.

Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the
"humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and
left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later
posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun". You're
just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here longer
than 5 minutes knows it.

You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves
why. Asshole.

-L.

what?

are you serious?

he with held food from a dog for 3 days??!!?? as a 'punishment'??!!!

No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed
out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of
getting shot.







dogs do not need punishing, they do not do things which require
punishing, if they do something which we find unacceptable then they
will nto hav done it out of malice or just to be 'naughty' or 'bad', all
they need is better training and to know what is acceptable using
POSITIVE reinforcement. by punishing a dog all you get is a ocnfused,
stressed and unhappy dog who will probably go on to produce even more
unacceptable behaviours out of confusion (which will again of course be
interpreted by some idiot human as the dog being naughty and said canine
will probably then be punished for doing somethign he didn't know was
'wrong' in the first place but which is his way of coping with stress of
an uncaring owner, and thus the cycle begins and spirals out of
control).

when people come out with crap like 'that dog needs to be punished' it
is usually the owners who need to be punished for not training their dog
properly and not being consistent in their approach, that is the bottom
line. Dogs just want to please their owners and be accepted and be part
of the pack and the family, they would not knowlingly do anything which
would anger theri 'master' or cause them to be ousted from the pack
would they? anyone who thinks otherwise should get a grip, and
definintely NOT get a dog.

oh god I'm off again, i just can't bear the idea of some poor frightened
confused dog, wondering why on earth the master he loves so much is
treating him this way and what on earth he has done to get this
treatment, it just makes my heart weep. people who want to have a dog
shoudl think about what the world looks like from the dog's perspective
first and how the behaviours and actions of humans will be interpreted
by the dog, and first and foremost accept that dogs are not capable of
willfully doing 'evil' and 'naughty' things.

christ alive, this has totally ruined my day now

Yeah, well the good news is the dog was killed, probably by a neighbor,
in my own front yard, so you can sleep tight knowing I got my comeuppance.

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so you deliberately with hold food in an attempt to 'encourage' the
dog to stick around and not run off again? sorry i don't quite
understand how that works exactly? please explain...

again, the dog did not 'run off' to **** you off, where do you get
such a stupid idea? it probably went in the hope of finding a better
owner or for a thousand other reasons which seemed logical to the dog
at the time but i can bet that none of them involve deliberately
trying to annoy you.

at least the dog is in a better place now and not being starved by an
uncaring owner with a twisted idea of how dogs think.

jesus wept
bookie