Steve Crane wrote:

Joe Canuck wrote in message ...


I purchased the bag at least one month ago now.

At the top of the bag is the following:

"BEST BEFORE 04 2004 R26100916 AW".

Here is a question: By the time a bag makes into a store, how far away
from the expiry date should the bag be?


Joe,
That date indicates it was produced in April of 2003, about 7 months
ago. That's actually quite old for most Hill's products. 20 years ago
Hill's used to manufacture one type of food for a week or more and
then switch to the next needed item. Production runs were always quite
long because it used to take nearly 2 full days to switch a
manufacturing line from one food to another. Automation, better
equipment and computer driven manufacturing has reduced that switch
over time to about 13 minutes. Hill's no longer makes more food than
will be sold in any given week. Some exceptions, Hill's has a couple
Prescription Diet products that have very small use. Some of these are
non-profit products due to their low consumption rate and a single
manufacturing run could be a few months supply.
Most of the time the bags on the retail shelf will be less than a
month old, especially in a veterinary clinic. Particularly true for
Science Diet products with their larger volume demands. I would have
to check with Canada and see if they are warehousing foods. I would
doubt it. We have no warehousing anywhere in the US. We have local
distribution points which may maintain a weeks supply at the most, of
Science Diet products, but no warehousing to hold anything long term.
Canned food we do tend to warehouse in Canada, Alaska, and some parts
of the Pacific Northwest due to problems shipping it in the winter.
Freezing canned food wreaks havoc with palatability.


What part of Canada are you in?

Rouyn-Noranda, Quebec... about 500 miles straight north of Montreal.

When I order, the food takes less than a week to arrive at the vet. So
the order time is great, but the product I get seems to have been
sitting around for a while.

I ordered two bags each within a week of each other. The SD Adult
Chicken which we have been discussing, and a bag of SD Nature's Best...
the expiry on that bag is "BEST BEFORE 07 2004 K17171455 PN"

Now, I noticed at a store in town a rather sorry looking 8.5 lb bag of
Science Diet Nature's Best. The bag was sitting on the floor by the
door. This was the end of October, the expiry date was November the next
month. Clerk tried to convince me to buy the bag which I didn't.

--
"Its the bugs that keep it running."
-Joe Canuck

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/roc/tenth/profiles/s027bha.pdf

Possibly if a lung is dispositional to cancer BHT may accelerate the growth
by this study.
http://www.feingold.org/malkinson.html

So does it cause cancer?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

Maybe not!

And if your pet, or you smoke pot..... well the damage is greater :-)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

Does it or does it not, that is the question of the day. Since most cancer
studies are lab studies with rats, not cats or dogs the question is still
debatable, but if you can avoid the products with BHT and BHA you are
probably better off IMHO

I would be more concerned with the heavy use of corn in the food since
Aflatoxin is very dangerous and is usually found on grains (such as wheat
and corn) and mushrooms. Since most grains that are used in the pet food
industry are not FDA inspected the worry about aflatoxins is not as great.
After all most of the major pet food manufacturers are involved in human
food production and need to make use of grains that are not fit for human
food, so thus the pet food industry!

There is an interesting study that shows a link between aflatoxin control
and the use of BHT to control it in prefeed studies, but then again the US
government insisted for years that asbestos was "perfectly safe".

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

Best advice, avoid man made preservatives if possible, and many pet food
manufacturers are getting the message.

Jeremy
"GAUBSTER2" wrote in message
...
From: olitter (PawsForThought)

I heard that
there was research indicating a strong link between bha and bht in
science diet and kidney cancer in cats.

Unfortunately, there is no such "link". Which insurance company was it?
I
want to know so that I can steer clear of them! BHA and BHT are
completely
safe preservatives when used at the levels found in pet foods. Period.

http://www.takingthelead.co.uk/2/Hea...t_dog_food.htm

That wasn't even a nice try, not even for you Lauren. That's the same
opinion
(word for word) that's posted on countless websites. Too bad, AGAIN, that
there is no proof, but only somebody's opinion. Where's the research
indicating a "strong link"??

Check out www.petdiets.com

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/roc/tenth/profiles/s027bha.pdf

Possibly if a lung is dispositional to cancer BHT may accelerate the growth
by this study.
http://www.feingold.org/malkinson.html

So does it cause cancer?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

Maybe not!

And if your pet, or you smoke pot..... well the damage is greater :-)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

Does it or does it not, that is the question of the day. Since most cancer
studies are lab studies with rats, not cats or dogs the question is still
debatable, but if you can avoid the products with BHT and BHA you are
probably better off IMHO

I would be more concerned with the heavy use of corn in the food since
Aflatoxin is very dangerous and is usually found on grains (such as wheat
and corn) and mushrooms. Since most grains that are used in the pet food
industry are not FDA inspected the worry about aflatoxins is not as great.
After all most of the major pet food manufacturers are involved in human
food production and need to make use of grains that are not fit for human
food, so thus the pet food industry!

There is an interesting study that shows a link between aflatoxin control
and the use of BHT to control it in prefeed studies, but then again the US
government insisted for years that asbestos was "perfectly safe".

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

Best advice, avoid man made preservatives if possible, and many pet food
manufacturers are getting the message.

Jeremy
"GAUBSTER2" wrote in message
...
From: olitter (PawsForThought)

I heard that
there was research indicating a strong link between bha and bht in
science diet and kidney cancer in cats.

Unfortunately, there is no such "link". Which insurance company was it?
I
want to know so that I can steer clear of them! BHA and BHT are
completely
safe preservatives when used at the levels found in pet foods. Period.

http://www.takingthelead.co.uk/2/Hea...t_dog_food.htm

That wasn't even a nice try, not even for you Lauren. That's the same
opinion
(word for word) that's posted on countless websites. Too bad, AGAIN, that
there is no proof, but only somebody's opinion. Where's the research
indicating a "strong link"??

Check out www.petdiets.com

From: "Jeremy Lowe"

I would be more concerned with the heavy use of corn in the food since
Aflatoxin is very dangerous and is usually found on grains (such as wheat
and corn) and mushrooms.

You should be MORE concerned about nutrient excesses which are the greatest
cause of health problems in pets today. Please tell me when the last aflatoxin
outbreak from corn occurred. You're more worried about things that aren't a
problem and ignoring real problems to focus on a imaginary problem.

After all most of the major pet food manufacturers are involved in human
food production and need to make use of grains that are not fit for human
food, so thus the pet food industry!

Which human foods do Purina, Colgate, and Proctor and Gamble make? I can see
your point when you're discussing Del Monte which owns IVD, Nature's Recipe,
and other grocery store foods, but the rest? Gimme a break! That is not why
the pet food industry exists. Oh brother!

Best advice, avoid man made preservatives if possible, and many pet food
manufacturers are getting the message.


If not for those "man-made" preservatives, life would be much more difficult!
Not to mention some recent news regarding ethoxyquin retarding cancer growth!
And you're ignoring the addition in pet foods and human food of all of those
healthy vitamins and minerals that are artificial.

From: "Jeremy Lowe"

I would be more concerned with the heavy use of corn in the food since
Aflatoxin is very dangerous and is usually found on grains (such as wheat
and corn) and mushrooms.

You should be MORE concerned about nutrient excesses which are the greatest
cause of health problems in pets today. Please tell me when the last aflatoxin
outbreak from corn occurred. You're more worried about things that aren't a
problem and ignoring real problems to focus on a imaginary problem.

After all most of the major pet food manufacturers are involved in human
food production and need to make use of grains that are not fit for human
food, so thus the pet food industry!

Which human foods do Purina, Colgate, and Proctor and Gamble make? I can see
your point when you're discussing Del Monte which owns IVD, Nature's Recipe,
and other grocery store foods, but the rest? Gimme a break! That is not why
the pet food industry exists. Oh brother!

Best advice, avoid man made preservatives if possible, and many pet food
manufacturers are getting the message.


If not for those "man-made" preservatives, life would be much more difficult!
Not to mention some recent news regarding ethoxyquin retarding cancer growth!
And you're ignoring the addition in pet foods and human food of all of those
healthy vitamins and minerals that are artificial.

"GAUBSTER2" wrote in message
...
From: "Jeremy Lowe"

I would be more concerned with the heavy use of corn in the food since
Aflatoxin is very dangerous and is usually found on grains (such as wheat
and corn) and mushrooms.

You should be MORE concerned about nutrient excesses which are the
greatest
cause of health problems in pets today. Please tell me when the last
aflatoxin
outbreak from corn occurred. You're more worried about things that aren't
a
problem and ignoring real problems to focus on a imaginary problem.

After all most of the major pet food manufacturers are involved in human
food production and need to make use of grains that are not fit for human
food, so thus the pet food industry!

Which human foods do Purina, Colgate, and Proctor and Gamble make? I can
see
your point when you're discussing Del Monte which owns IVD, Nature's
Recipe,
and other grocery store foods, but the rest? Gimme a break! That is not
why
the pet food industry exists. Oh brother!

Best advice, avoid man made preservatives if possible, and many pet food
manufacturers are getting the message.


If not for those "man-made" preservatives, life would be much more
difficult!
Not to mention some recent news regarding ethoxyquin retarding cancer
growth!
And you're ignoring the addition in pet foods and human food of all of
those
healthy vitamins and minerals that are artificial.

Aflatoxin is only a precursor to contamination by mycotoxins which are a
well diagnosed problem in both air and food and are a know harm to humans.

aflatoxin effect is hard to link directly to problems since the mycotoxins
produced by this growth is the real issue and it is a large enough problem
that the food industry has for years tested corn for the presence of
aflatoxin, however food rejected for human consumption is acceptable for
feed for animals.

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/chap41.html

I would strongly state that this is not imagination!

Proctor & Gamble 4.6 Billion in food and beverage sales with 15
manufacturing plants in the US (Ever heard of Pringles, or maybe that isn't
a snack food product in your dictionary)
http://www.corporatewindow.com/fl/pg/10kframe2.html

Ralston Purina owned interest and still has connected interest in Ralcorp
which produces the Beech Nut food line, a large consumer of grain products.
http://www.purina.com/company/profile/timeline.asp
Since its merger with Nestle' the giant Swiss owned food company it now has
more ties than ever to the human food industry.
http://www.nestleusa.com/careers/work/

As for Colgate Palmolive I did not state that all major pet food
manufacturers produce human food just MOST of them. This company is probably
one of the few that does not hold major interest in food production, but
then again I don't know that I would trust my pets health to accompany
that's major product is toothpaste!
http://www.business.com/directory/re...mpany/profile/

I also did not say that is why the pet food industry exists, I implied that
it is a hand and glove fit to be able to maximize profits by having a
secondary way to use profitably the foods that can't meet the criteria for
human food use, or to be able to maximize buying power by purchasing foods
for multiple industries. You can read what ever you want into that
statement.

Since the FDA asked pet food manufacturers to lower the PPM concentration of
ethoxyquin http://www.fda.gov/cvm/index/updates/dogethox.html
there must be some concern. As to it's antioxidant properties there are
natural sources of antioxidants that are much better sources of these
desired properties. Since food that is bought by a pet food manufacturer as
prepared food does not fall under the guidelines of ingredient listing, only
what the manufacturer has added how do we know that the levels of ethoxyquin
are within the range listed by the FDA as acceptable. We can't, thus the
best advice is simply avoid the product.

I am not interested in starting a raging argument, but historically the US
Government has not had the best track record for food and material safety
testing, or need I remind you of that fact that 20 years ago the threshold
limits for formaldehyde were considerably lower that what they now are since
we have years of testing to show it's carcinogenic properties, what about
tobacco which the government has protected for years although it is a known
carcnigen, and now what about Teflon.

Get a grip.... my comments simply implied I think it is better to feed as
natural a food product as possible an avoid man made preservatives.


JBL

"GAUBSTER2" wrote in message
...
From: "Jeremy Lowe"

I would be more concerned with the heavy use of corn in the food since
Aflatoxin is very dangerous and is usually found on grains (such as wheat
and corn) and mushrooms.

You should be MORE concerned about nutrient excesses which are the
greatest
cause of health problems in pets today. Please tell me when the last
aflatoxin
outbreak from corn occurred. You're more worried about things that aren't
a
problem and ignoring real problems to focus on a imaginary problem.

After all most of the major pet food manufacturers are involved in human
food production and need to make use of grains that are not fit for human
food, so thus the pet food industry!

Which human foods do Purina, Colgate, and Proctor and Gamble make? I can
see
your point when you're discussing Del Monte which owns IVD, Nature's
Recipe,
and other grocery store foods, but the rest? Gimme a break! That is not
why
the pet food industry exists. Oh brother!

Best advice, avoid man made preservatives if possible, and many pet food
manufacturers are getting the message.


If not for those "man-made" preservatives, life would be much more
difficult!
Not to mention some recent news regarding ethoxyquin retarding cancer
growth!
And you're ignoring the addition in pet foods and human food of all of
those
healthy vitamins and minerals that are artificial.

Aflatoxin is only a precursor to contamination by mycotoxins which are a
well diagnosed problem in both air and food and are a know harm to humans.

aflatoxin effect is hard to link directly to problems since the mycotoxins
produced by this growth is the real issue and it is a large enough problem
that the food industry has for years tested corn for the presence of
aflatoxin, however food rejected for human consumption is acceptable for
feed for animals.

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/chap41.html

I would strongly state that this is not imagination!

Proctor & Gamble 4.6 Billion in food and beverage sales with 15
manufacturing plants in the US (Ever heard of Pringles, or maybe that isn't
a snack food product in your dictionary)
http://www.corporatewindow.com/fl/pg/10kframe2.html

Ralston Purina owned interest and still has connected interest in Ralcorp
which produces the Beech Nut food line, a large consumer of grain products.
http://www.purina.com/company/profile/timeline.asp
Since its merger with Nestle' the giant Swiss owned food company it now has
more ties than ever to the human food industry.
http://www.nestleusa.com/careers/work/

As for Colgate Palmolive I did not state that all major pet food
manufacturers produce human food just MOST of them. This company is probably
one of the few that does not hold major interest in food production, but
then again I don't know that I would trust my pets health to accompany
that's major product is toothpaste!
http://www.business.com/directory/re...mpany/profile/

I also did not say that is why the pet food industry exists, I implied that
it is a hand and glove fit to be able to maximize profits by having a
secondary way to use profitably the foods that can't meet the criteria for
human food use, or to be able to maximize buying power by purchasing foods
for multiple industries. You can read what ever you want into that
statement.

Since the FDA asked pet food manufacturers to lower the PPM concentration of
ethoxyquin http://www.fda.gov/cvm/index/updates/dogethox.html
there must be some concern. As to it's antioxidant properties there are
natural sources of antioxidants that are much better sources of these
desired properties. Since food that is bought by a pet food manufacturer as
prepared food does not fall under the guidelines of ingredient listing, only
what the manufacturer has added how do we know that the levels of ethoxyquin
are within the range listed by the FDA as acceptable. We can't, thus the
best advice is simply avoid the product.

I am not interested in starting a raging argument, but historically the US
Government has not had the best track record for food and material safety
testing, or need I remind you of that fact that 20 years ago the threshold
limits for formaldehyde were considerably lower that what they now are since
we have years of testing to show it's carcinogenic properties, what about
tobacco which the government has protected for years although it is a known
carcnigen, and now what about Teflon.

Get a grip.... my comments simply implied I think it is better to feed as
natural a food product as possible an avoid man made preservatives.


JBL

Jeremy,

Your last two posts were very interesting, thanks, and gave me some more
stuff to read (okay, maybe not thanks ;)).

If you really want to read a doozy about the FDA, check out this story
about the SSRI Serzone:

http://www.washingtonian.com/health/hardtoswallow.html



Jeremy Lowe wrote:
"GAUBSTER2" wrote in message
...

From: "Jeremy Lowe"

I would be more concerned with the heavy use of corn in the food since
Aflatoxin is very dangerous and is usually found on grains (such as wheat
and corn) and mushrooms.

You should be MORE concerned about nutrient excesses which are the

greatest

cause of health problems in pets today. Please tell me when the last

aflatoxin

outbreak from corn occurred. You're more worried about things that aren't

a

problem and ignoring real problems to focus on a imaginary problem.


After all most of the major pet food manufacturers are involved in human
food production and need to make use of grains that are not fit for human
food, so thus the pet food industry!

Which human foods do Purina, Colgate, and Proctor and Gamble make? I can

see

your point when you're discussing Del Monte which owns IVD, Nature's

Recipe,

and other grocery store foods, but the rest? Gimme a break! That is not

why

the pet food industry exists. Oh brother!


Best advice, avoid man made preservatives if possible, and many pet food
manufacturers are getting the message.


If not for those "man-made" preservatives, life would be much more

difficult!

Not to mention some recent news regarding ethoxyquin retarding cancer

growth!

And you're ignoring the addition in pet foods and human food of all of

those

healthy vitamins and minerals that are artificial.


Aflatoxin is only a precursor to contamination by mycotoxins which are a
well diagnosed problem in both air and food and are a know harm to humans.

aflatoxin effect is hard to link directly to problems since the mycotoxins
produced by this growth is the real issue and it is a large enough problem
that the food industry has for years tested corn for the presence of
aflatoxin, however food rejected for human consumption is acceptable for
feed for animals.

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/chap41.html

I would strongly state that this is not imagination!

Proctor & Gamble 4.6 Billion in food and beverage sales with 15
manufacturing plants in the US (Ever heard of Pringles, or maybe that isn't
a snack food product in your dictionary)
http://www.corporatewindow.com/fl/pg/10kframe2.html

Ralston Purina owned interest and still has connected interest in Ralcorp
which produces the Beech Nut food line, a large consumer of grain products.
http://www.purina.com/company/profile/timeline.asp
Since its merger with Nestle' the giant Swiss owned food company it now has
more ties than ever to the human food industry.
http://www.nestleusa.com/careers/work/

As for Colgate Palmolive I did not state that all major pet food
manufacturers produce human food just MOST of them. This company is probably
one of the few that does not hold major interest in food production, but
then again I don't know that I would trust my pets health to accompany
that's major product is toothpaste!
http://www.business.com/directory/re...mpany/profile/

I also did not say that is why the pet food industry exists, I implied that
it is a hand and glove fit to be able to maximize profits by having a
secondary way to use profitably the foods that can't meet the criteria for
human food use, or to be able to maximize buying power by purchasing foods
for multiple industries. You can read what ever you want into that
statement.

Since the FDA asked pet food manufacturers to lower the PPM concentration of
ethoxyquin http://www.fda.gov/cvm/index/updates/dogethox.html
there must be some concern. As to it's antioxidant properties there are
natural sources of antioxidants that are much better sources of these
desired properties. Since food that is bought by a pet food manufacturer as
prepared food does not fall under the guidelines of ingredient listing, only
what the manufacturer has added how do we know that the levels of ethoxyquin
are within the range listed by the FDA as acceptable. We can't, thus the
best advice is simply avoid the product.

I am not interested in starting a raging argument, but historically the US
Government has not had the best track record for food and material safety
testing, or need I remind you of that fact that 20 years ago the threshold
limits for formaldehyde were considerably lower that what they now are since
we have years of testing to show it's carcinogenic properties, what about
tobacco which the government has protected for years although it is a known
carcnigen, and now what about Teflon.

Get a grip.... my comments simply implied I think it is better to feed as
natural a food product as possible an avoid man made preservatives.


JBL

Jeremy,

Your last two posts were very interesting, thanks, and gave me some more
stuff to read (okay, maybe not thanks ;)).

If you really want to read a doozy about the FDA, check out this story
about the SSRI Serzone:

http://www.washingtonian.com/health/hardtoswallow.html



Jeremy Lowe wrote:
"GAUBSTER2" wrote in message
...

From: "Jeremy Lowe"

I would be more concerned with the heavy use of corn in the food since
Aflatoxin is very dangerous and is usually found on grains (such as wheat
and corn) and mushrooms.

You should be MORE concerned about nutrient excesses which are the

greatest

cause of health problems in pets today. Please tell me when the last

aflatoxin

outbreak from corn occurred. You're more worried about things that aren't

a

problem and ignoring real problems to focus on a imaginary problem.


After all most of the major pet food manufacturers are involved in human
food production and need to make use of grains that are not fit for human
food, so thus the pet food industry!

Which human foods do Purina, Colgate, and Proctor and Gamble make? I can

see

your point when you're discussing Del Monte which owns IVD, Nature's

Recipe,

and other grocery store foods, but the rest? Gimme a break! That is not

why

the pet food industry exists. Oh brother!


Best advice, avoid man made preservatives if possible, and many pet food
manufacturers are getting the message.


If not for those "man-made" preservatives, life would be much more

difficult!

Not to mention some recent news regarding ethoxyquin retarding cancer

growth!

And you're ignoring the addition in pet foods and human food of all of

those

healthy vitamins and minerals that are artificial.


Aflatoxin is only a precursor to contamination by mycotoxins which are a
well diagnosed problem in both air and food and are a know harm to humans.

aflatoxin effect is hard to link directly to problems since the mycotoxins
produced by this growth is the real issue and it is a large enough problem
that the food industry has for years tested corn for the presence of
aflatoxin, however food rejected for human consumption is acceptable for
feed for animals.

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/chap41.html

I would strongly state that this is not imagination!

Proctor & Gamble 4.6 Billion in food and beverage sales with 15
manufacturing plants in the US (Ever heard of Pringles, or maybe that isn't
a snack food product in your dictionary)
http://www.corporatewindow.com/fl/pg/10kframe2.html

Ralston Purina owned interest and still has connected interest in Ralcorp
which produces the Beech Nut food line, a large consumer of grain products.
http://www.purina.com/company/profile/timeline.asp
Since its merger with Nestle' the giant Swiss owned food company it now has
more ties than ever to the human food industry.
http://www.nestleusa.com/careers/work/

As for Colgate Palmolive I did not state that all major pet food
manufacturers produce human food just MOST of them. This company is probably
one of the few that does not hold major interest in food production, but
then again I don't know that I would trust my pets health to accompany
that's major product is toothpaste!
http://www.business.com/directory/re...mpany/profile/

I also did not say that is why the pet food industry exists, I implied that
it is a hand and glove fit to be able to maximize profits by having a
secondary way to use profitably the foods that can't meet the criteria for
human food use, or to be able to maximize buying power by purchasing foods
for multiple industries. You can read what ever you want into that
statement.

Since the FDA asked pet food manufacturers to lower the PPM concentration of
ethoxyquin http://www.fda.gov/cvm/index/updates/dogethox.html
there must be some concern. As to it's antioxidant properties there are
natural sources of antioxidants that are much better sources of these
desired properties. Since food that is bought by a pet food manufacturer as
prepared food does not fall under the guidelines of ingredient listing, only
what the manufacturer has added how do we know that the levels of ethoxyquin
are within the range listed by the FDA as acceptable. We can't, thus the
best advice is simply avoid the product.

I am not interested in starting a raging argument, but historically the US
Government has not had the best track record for food and material safety
testing, or need I remind you of that fact that 20 years ago the threshold
limits for formaldehyde were considerably lower that what they now are since
we have years of testing to show it's carcinogenic properties, what about
tobacco which the government has protected for years although it is a known
carcnigen, and now what about Teflon.

Get a grip.... my comments simply implied I think it is better to feed as
natural a food product as possible an avoid man made preservatives.


JBL

afr wrote in message . org...

Shortly after that, during an informal chat with a woman who worked for a
pet insurance company (who sent me an article in the mail), I heard that
there was research indicating a strong link between bha and bht in
science diet and kidney cancer in cats. My previous cat had eaten that her
whole life. I had heard that Flynt River Ranch was good for cats with
urinary problems, so up until his recent blockage, my present companion
had been on that his whole life.

There is no such research period. Like always it takes a few under
educated people to jump on a band wagon they do not understand. The
vast majority of such studies are done at 1% or 10,000 parts per
million. Most pet foods use about 30 parts per million. Over 300 times
as much as is commonly used in pets foods. Vitamin E, D, A, beta
carotene, selenium and sodium would all be fatal if they were
increased in doseage to the same level as was done in the majority of
studies. In fact if I increased sodium levels in pet foods by one
third as much, the food would be fatal. Not over the long term, but
very quickly.

Another way to look at this issue. Most people can take 2 aspirin
without difficulty. Nobody would be stupid enough to take 600 aspirin
in a single dose. Unless of course suicide was the desired result.