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Beware of bully cats
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. |
Beware of bully cats
On 5/7/2017 12:17 AM, John Doe wrote:
They can destroy your other cats' lives. My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. Yer kinda nutty, ain'tcha? Hogtying a cat you think's unPC? Where you live and I'll call the ACPCA on you? LNC --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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It is not "hogtied" you piece of ****.
So easy to act holier-than-thou over the Internet. If there were some better way to cope that doesn't suffer the pretense of holiness and self-sacrifice on the part of the advice giver, let's hear it. Certainly letting my other cats suffer is not the solution. This troll can go **** itself, and its mother too... -- reilloc reilloc gmail.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: reilloc reilloc gmail.com Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Subject: Beware of bully cats Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 00:03:46 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: oeu6pm$j3i$1 dont-email.me References: oemakk$169$1 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 05:00:38 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="a77287cae9da3453d727302141bbe95c"; logging-data="19570"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+yymjg010qJ+svdiIarxU7" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 In-Reply-To: oemakk$169$1 dont-email.me X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 170509-4, 05/09/2017), Outbound message Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q6le4wbQ5t+tCcM02TLF3GJGjF4= Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:12442 On 5/7/2017 12:17 AM, John Doe wrote: They can destroy your other cats' lives. My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. Yer kinda nutty, ain'tcha? Hogtying a cat you think's unPC? Where you live and I'll call the ACPCA on you? LNC --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
Beware of bully cats
On 5/10/2017 12:16 AM, John Doe wrote:
It is not "hogtied" you piece of ****. So easy to act holier-than-thou over the Internet. If there were some better way to cope that doesn't suffer the pretense of holiness and self-sacrifice on the part of the advice giver, let's hear it. Certainly letting my other cats suffer is not the solution. This troll can go **** itself, and its mother too... Yer more'n jest a little nutty; yer fuktup in de haid. All yer cats's sufferin' because they're yer cats. Yer an animal abuser, JD. Maybe somebody investigating yer hoarding behavior'll notice the way you've got one of 'em lashed up and send you to jail. You'll like jail. No bullies there. LNC --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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This is my original post...
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. To any normal person, that should look like an excellent solution to a horrible problem. It is. Of course not all people rescue cats, some buy cats from pet stores and might not consider the possibility of having to cope with serious behavioral problems. And when they do, they end up dumping them on the street and people like me end up taking care of them. Maybe this troll is envious/jealous of my cat's Skyway. Or maybe it is addicted to opioids. Or maybe the old man's Depends is leaking... -- reilloc reilloc gmail.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: reilloc reilloc gmail.com Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav,free.spam Subject: Beware of bully cats Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 18:41:07 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: of85cr$kpd$1 dont-email.me References: oemakk$169$1 dont-email.me oeu6pm$j3i$1 dont-email.me oeu7nr$kbt$1 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 23:38:03 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b1b53dd8efd5ca0255c42d26b82d571f"; logging-data="21293"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+bDNd2SYV180uxJz9ZNlbq" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 In-Reply-To: oeu7nr$kbt$1 dont-email.me X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 170512-8, 05/12/2017), Outbound message Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z7LNq+7lVm0NqFfcLZkcneaaspM= Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:12444 free.spam:11296 On 5/10/2017 12:16 AM, John Doe wrote: It is not "hogtied" you piece of ****. So easy to act holier-than-thou over the Internet. If there were some better way to cope that doesn't suffer the pretense of holiness and self-sacrifice on the part of the advice giver, let's hear it. Certainly letting my other cats suffer is not the solution. This troll can go **** itself, and its mother too... Yer more'n jest a little nutty; yer fuktup in de haid. All yer cats's sufferin' because they're yer cats. Yer an animal abuser, JD. Maybe somebody investigating yer hoarding behavior'll notice the way you've got one of 'em lashed up and send you to jail. You'll like jail. No bullies there. LNC --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On 5/13/2017 8:05 PM, John Doe wrote:
This is my original post... My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. To any normal person, that should look like an excellent solution to a horrible problem. It is. Of course not all people rescue cats, some buy cats from pet stores and might not consider the possibility of having to cope with serious behavioral problems. And when they do, they end up dumping them on the street and people like me end up taking care of them. Maybe this troll is envious/jealous of my cat's Skyway. Or maybe it is addicted to opioids. Or maybe the old man's Depends is leaking... Rescue? Yer the Jeffrey Dahmer of cat rescuing, saving them from a lonely life on the street so you can bind them with leather and hobble them until they submit. What next? Your calico casserole recipes? Of course, I love it that you repeated your original, airheaded post that included the memorable line, "...easily *dawn* and doff it." Is that like Dawn Diego or Dawn King? Now, get back to yer feline torture chamber and wait for that knock on the door. LNC --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
Beware of bully cats
Needs to get off of the corncob...
-- reilloc reilloc gmail.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: reilloc reilloc gmail.com Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav,free.spam Subject: Beware of bully cats Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 22:13:52 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: of8hrp$cc8$1 dont-email.me References: oemakk$169$1 dont-email.me oeu6pm$j3i$1 dont-email.me oeu7nr$kbt$1 dont-email.me of85cr$kpd$1 dont-email.me of8ah7$ci$2 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 03:10:49 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b1b53dd8efd5ca0255c42d26b82d571f"; logging-data="12680"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18XML35L0M7PQKOCQKMcaRS" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 In-Reply-To: of8ah7$ci$2 dont-email.me X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 170512-8, 05/12/2017), Outbound message Cancel-Lock: sha1:pyzv6kOHn+wd702yfawyJ8hFSTs= Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:12447 free.spam:11301 On 5/13/2017 8:05 PM, John Doe wrote: This is my original post... My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. To any normal person, that should look like an excellent solution to a horrible problem. It is. Of course not all people rescue cats, some buy cats from pet stores and might not consider the possibility of having to cope with serious behavioral problems. And when they do, they end up dumping them on the street and people like me end up taking care of them. Maybe this troll is envious/jealous of my cat's Skyway. Or maybe it is addicted to opioids. Or maybe the old man's Depends is leaking... Rescue? Yer the Jeffrey Dahmer of cat rescuing, saving them from a lonely life on the street so you can bind them with leather and hobble them until they submit. What next? Your calico casserole recipes? Of course, I love it that you repeated your original, airheaded post that included the memorable line, "...easily *dawn* and doff it." Is that like Dawn Diego or Dawn King? Now, get back to yer feline torture chamber and wait for that knock on the door. LNC --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
I definitely would never do this to a cat.
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The replies remind me of the cannibal left's view on open
borders and welcoming arms to all comers, no matter how badly they want to hurt us. Using a cuff appears to be an excellent real-world solution to a very difficult real-world problem. Perhaps the poster has never needed to deal with a bully cat. If the thing can be placed in a home with no other cats, that would be better, but that is not the situation here. So easy to act holier-than-thou on the Internet... -- Rutan Rutan.137b51d8 catbanter.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giga news.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.newsg roupbanter.com!news.newsgroupbanter.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 13:00:59 -0500 From: Rutan Rutan.137b51d8 catbanter.com Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Subject: Beware of bully cats Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 15:26:10 +0100 Message-ID: Rutan.137b51d8 catbanter.com Organization: CatBanter.com User-Agent: X-Newsreader: X-Originating-IP: References: oemakk$169$1 dont-email.me oeu6pm$j3i$1 dont-email.me oeu7nr$kbt$1 dont-email.me of85cr$kpd$1 dont-email.me of8ah7$ci$2 dont-email.me of8hrp$cc8$1 dont-email.me of8mf9$m06$1 dont-email.me Lines: 7 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-B9my8ybY5+uLKN9y937hBFmEuFXFivboWwvkeFe9PMX3QQoiMN dewwXImcL/IO1WeTbJCs6JFCMtssm!r+Lwr8XXCP6v9inwaJwSMSvAQiwMML pIBwTcWY06t68mITl+gKyI6sM+C1v5jnmBiVSu0L71CQp6!LTs = X-Complaints-To: abuse newsgroupbanter.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Lines: 1 X-Original-Bytes: 1168 X-Received-Bytes: 1280 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3339721985 Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:12449 I defintely would never do this to a cat. -- Rutan |
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On 6/5/2017 1:23 PM, John Doe wrote:
The replies remind me of the cannibal left's view on open borders and welcoming arms to all comers, no matter how badly they want to hurt us. Using a cuff appears to be an excellent real-world solution to a very difficult real-world problem. Perhaps the poster has never needed to deal with a bully cat. If the thing can be placed in a home with no other cats, that would be better, but that is not the situation here. So easy to act holier-than-thou on the Internet... What? You, again, with your brilliant insight into feline personality and your master plan to physically abuse them into conformity? If the thing can be rescued from your torture chamber and placed anywhere else, that would be better. You're a sick man, an animal abuser and painfully stupid. LNC |
Beware of bully cats
My method of coping is humane as possible. That helps make it
a great method. It restricts the bully cats movement only enough so that it stops terrorizing my other cats. Physical restraints are used all over in the real world to cope with behavioral problems. When necessary, using such against a cat is not abuse, it is constructive. The opposition reminds me of the cannibal left's denial of terrorism. A safe bet is that both reply authors are cannibal leftists. My best method so far for coping with a bully cat... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. Anyone who has lots of experience managing cats knows better than to think you can verbally stop a cat from doing anything it wants to do. In the case of a bully cat like mine, uncorrected, it makes the lives of my other cats living hell. There are two common charades on the Internet. Being a tough guy and being holier-than-thou. This troll plays out both... -- reilloc reilloc gmail.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: reilloc reilloc gmail.com Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav,free.spam Subject: Beware of bully cats Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 22:53:15 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: oh58ou$mck$1 dont-email.me References: oemakk$169$1 dont-email.me oeu6pm$j3i$1 dont-email.me oeu7nr$kbt$1 dont-email.me of85cr$kpd$1 dont-email.me of8ah7$ci$2 dont-email.me of8hrp$cc8$1 dont-email.me of8mf9$m06$1 dont-email.me Rutan.137b51d8 catbanter.com oh47jj$f8s$2 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 03:49:50 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="25e24cdb18a16b83abdd6dfeec08863e"; logging-data="22932"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5899hhuGZZdH1nLmUoEFD" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 In-Reply-To: oh47jj$f8s$2 dont-email.me Content-Language: en-US Cancel-Lock: sha1:9j0FkzqyQAOMvn+DifwtMN+RsZc= Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:12451 free.spam:11310 On 6/5/2017 1:23 PM, John Doe wrote: The replies remind me of the cannibal left's view on open borders and welcoming arms to all comers, no matter how badly they want to hurt us. Using a cuff appears to be an excellent real-world solution to a very difficult real-world problem. Perhaps the poster has never needed to deal with a bully cat. If the thing can be placed in a home with no other cats, that would be better, but that is not the situation here. So easy to act holier-than-thou on the Internet... What? You, again, with your brilliant insight into feline personality and your master plan to physically abuse them into conformity? If the thing can be rescued from your torture chamber and placed anywhere else, that would be better. You're a sick man, an animal abuser and painfully stupid. LNC |
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On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 1:20:28 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
They can destroy your other cats' lives. My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs. Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or had better not contain stairs. That is problem A. Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the obvious 'bad'. That is problem B. Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question. And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C. There are others - but they are less blatant. Now, as the "Cannibal Left" was mentioned, the rest is fair game: On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. H.L. Mencken “Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.” Harry Truman |
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There is a difference between a cat that is adapting to a permanent injury, and a cat that has been deliberately hobbled. That a cat may look entirely recovered after a number of months or years does not equate to a hobbled cat in a panic situation.
Our big Maine Coon (21 pounds) likes to walk up (and down) the stairway handrails (center-hall colonial). And he will jump onto the level section or the newel posts at any point. Imagine him trying that, hobbled. I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. Will Rogers |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 06:34:15 -0700 (PDT), "Peter W."
wrote: There is a difference between a cat that is adapting to a permanent injury, and a cat that has been deliberately hobbled. That a cat may look entirely recovered after a number of months or years does not equate to a hobbled cat in a panic situation. Our big Maine Coon (21 pounds) likes to walk up (and down) the stairway handrails (center-hall colonial). And he will jump onto the level section or the newel posts at any point. Imagine him trying that, hobbled. I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. Will Rogers What adapting? The cat came home 2 days after amputating a rear leg and it's first act was to jump on the bed. Next he walked on the window sill. Except for walking funny there was no difference in the cat's behavior. And this was at 16 years old. Cats don't feel sorry for themselves which seems a large part of recovery for humans. They just do with what they have. |
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The Calico and Toobig just had a long playing session. It was
productive with awkward back and forth give and take. Toobig has adapted well over the years but still requires supervision. I have to break it off when the Calico tires, otherwise Toobig switches into robotic domination mode. Seeing Toobig restrain itself during play is amusing. |
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On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 7:13:37 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange folks. Cats... kinda-sorta goes with the territory. |
Beware of bully cats
This troll is "hoping to regrow this group" by...
1. Never making an original post. 2. Posting an entirely off-topic disjointed reply. 3. Bashing posters for actively participating in this group. -- "cshenk" cshenk1 cox.net wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder6. news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.gigan ews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.gigane ws.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!news.giganew s.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 18:13:30 -0500 From: "cshenk" cshenk1 cox.net Subject: Beware of bully cats Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav References: oemakk$169$1 dont-email.me 648175a6-e14b-4a84-8c4f-1dd0ea259825 googlegroups.com 3kqpuc5acn12r7amvldmaposg8qbgjhbd6 4ax.com User-Agent: XanaNews/1.18.1.6 Message-ID: xeKdndOODOUHh2zEnZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d giganews.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 18:13:30 -0500 Lines: 60 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-c8toLNtvivap+MUVNqPHSf0V7UCNASQ18PNrlrINmR3SXt3nFg 0niX+9qtPQkVWroQskZFJ9tGCVAHk!B5ylk6L+uIG3Ui7NVcva 5P0YRN7SaLAtFXGc8giYaJWqLio+IawGUCC3gM14cJwuTqfx72 T069g= X-Complaints-To: abuse giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3878 Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:12533 nobody nada.com wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:47:56 -0700 (PDT), pfjw aol.com wrote: On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 1:20:28 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote: They can destroy your other cats' lives. My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. I just found this newsgroup,. Much of this post is simply wrong. Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs. Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or had better not contain stairs. That is problem A. I had a cat who lost a rear leg to cancer. Post amputation, it could run, jump, speed up stairs. Thier mobility is impaired far less than believed. And this was a 16 year old who made it to 20. Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the obvious 'bad'. That is problem B. And with too many cats what do you do? If it's a bully it's not going to get a home, just dead. Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question. And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C. Just wrong again. They can do most anything most other cats can do. And what kind of "event" did you have in mind? There are others - but they are less blatant. Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange folks. -- |
Beware of bully cats
Peter W. wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 7:13:37 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote: Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange folks. Cats... kinda-sorta goes with the territory. LOL, true! Meantime, in in another group, we just finished up the annual Jellicle Ball. It's a simple fun little story board type thing (we play our own pets parts) and it's also a healing memorial of all the pets that have passed over the bridge. It was a very large list this time as a cat colony got hit by something bad and they lost a lot of them. -- |
Beware of bully cats
cshenk wrote:
wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:47:56 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 1:20:28 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote: They can destroy your other cats' lives. My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone. I just found this newsgroup,. Much of this post is simply wrong. Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs. Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or had better not contain stairs. That is problem A. I had a cat who lost a rear leg to cancer. Post amputation, it could run, jump, speed up stairs. Thier mobility is impaired far less than believed. And this was a 16 year old who made it to 20. Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the obvious 'bad'. That is problem B. And with too many cats what do you do? If it's a bully it's not going to get a home, just dead. Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question. And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C. Just wrong again. They can do most anything most other cats can do. And what kind of "event" did you have in mind? There are others - but they are less blatant. Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange folks. Totally new here.. but I think both sides haves points. Hampering a bully isn’t that bad an idea. Just separating and “gentling” sounds very vague- is that castrating or trying to tame by hand feeding or something. A cat that bullies other cats won’t behave better with other cats by human taming. It’s a cat/cat thing not a human/cat thing. If the belt works and doesn’t hurt the cat, sounds like it’s worth a go. |
Beware of bully cats
Still using it. Takes a little effort, but it works great.
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