Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

I've owned a number of cats over the years (but never more than two at
once) and unlike the one we have now, they've all been the opposite of
the stereotype.

They've all been affectionate. They'd frequently curl up with you in
bed or on the couch, or they'd sit in your lap.

"Ellie" the cat we have now, does none of this. And if you try to hold
her she is immediately resistant (so I obviously let her go).

Our previous cat *loved* being held.

I realize no two cats are the same, I guess we've just had luck in the
past.

The frustrating thing in this situation though is that she seems
flat-out selfish.

She expects affection (but gives nothing back) and she seems to want
more and more of it every day.

This one *loves* having her tummy rubbed and what was once a
twice-a-day routine has now become a 4-5X a day routine.

Well actually, it still remains twice a day, but she frequently nags
for it throughout the day.

I get rather tired of that, so I don't "cave to her demands". Twice a
day is all I give her, period.

What makes it more frustrating is she gives nothing back, affection
wise.

She exhibits loving behavior (she will roll over on her back in our
presence, which I understand to be her way of saying "I love you"
based on FAQS I've read) but she doesn't want to be in physical
contact unless it's "by request" and it's her getting the attention.

I suppose if I want guaranteed adoration, I should get a dog. :0)

On a related note, often times she will come into the room I'm in and
start meowing like she wants something. If I'm busy, I'll ignore her
for a bit till the tone changes and it sounds as if she's pleading or
crying.

But when I get up and she takes off, she doesn't make it obvious as to
what she wants and since I don't speak "meow" I have no idea.

She doesn't take you to her food bowl (which I'll still check anyway).
She doesn't lead you to a door (she's an indoor cat but she often
likes looking outside through the screen door).

She's (surprisingly) not asking for affection (when she does, she runs
to her "spot" on an end table in the living room).

I really feel bad about it at times. It's a somewhat helpless
feeling.

But I digress....

Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

"Scott" wrote
What makes it more frustrating is she gives nothing back, affection
wise.

She exhibits loving behavior (she will roll over on her back in our
presence, which I understand to be her way of saying "I love you"
based on FAQS I've read) but she doesn't want to be in physical
contact unless it's "by request" and it's her getting the attention.

My first cat was like this, only worse. I adored her. I had no idea
what a nice cat was like! She lived to be 20, and as she got older,
she became slightly more affectionate. She would at least come to
me if I was upset, and be affectionate. She also responded to pretty
songs by seeking affection in her later years. (Stuff with piano and
acoustic guitare, pretty vocals, that sort of thing.)


I suppose if I want guaranteed adoration, I should get a dog. :0)

I call my current cat a puppycat, because she dogs me, follows
me everywhere, has to be touching me, or sits at my feet.

When I found her at the shelter, she leaned into my hand. She
chose me.

On a related note, often times she will come into the room I'm in and
start meowing like she wants something. If I'm busy, I'll ignore her
for a bit till the tone changes and it sounds as if she's pleading or
crying.

But when I get up and she takes off, she doesn't make it obvious as to
what she wants and since I don't speak "meow" I have no idea.

She doesn't take you to her food bowl (which I'll still check anyway).
She doesn't lead you to a door (she's an indoor cat but she often
likes looking outside through the screen door).

She's (surprisingly) not asking for affection (when she does, she runs
to her "spot" on an end table in the living room).

I really feel bad about it at times. It's a somewhat helpless
feeling.


So, you don't know what she wants?

Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:17:25 -0500, "cybercat"
wrote:


"Scott" wrote
What makes it more frustrating is she gives nothing back, affection
wise.

She exhibits loving behavior (she will roll over on her back in our
presence, which I understand to be her way of saying "I love you"
based on FAQS I've read) but she doesn't want to be in physical
contact unless it's "by request" and it's her getting the attention.

My first cat was like this, only worse. I adored her. I had no idea
what a nice cat was like! She lived to be 20, and as she got older,
she became slightly more affectionate. She would at least come to
me if I was upset, and be affectionate. She also responded to pretty
songs by seeking affection in her later years. (Stuff with piano and
acoustic guitare, pretty vocals, that sort of thing.)

This one is close to 2 1/2 now. Perhaps it will change when she gets
older. Although one of our past cats was *very* affectionate from day
one. She often would make a beeline for my lap when she came in the
room I was in. :-)



I suppose if I want guaranteed adoration, I should get a dog. :0)

I call my current cat a puppycat, because she dogs me, follows
me everywhere, has to be touching me, or sits at my feet.

One of my mom's cats would follow her everywhere and loved for her to
hold him (he didn't have much interest in me). I called him a "wussy
mamma's boy". ;-)


When I found her at the shelter, she leaned into my hand. She
chose me.

On a related note, often times she will come into the room I'm in and
start meowing like she wants something. If I'm busy, I'll ignore her
for a bit till the tone changes and it sounds as if she's pleading or
crying.

But when I get up and she takes off, she doesn't make it obvious as to
what she wants and since I don't speak "meow" I have no idea.

She doesn't take you to her food bowl (which I'll still check anyway).
She doesn't lead you to a door (she's an indoor cat but she often
likes looking outside through the screen door).

She's (surprisingly) not asking for affection (when she does, she runs
to her "spot" on an end table in the living room).

I really feel bad about it at times. It's a somewhat helpless
feeling.


So, you don't know what she wants?

No. And sometimes I feel just awful. I get paranoid and wonder if I
should take her to the vet to see if there's some sort of health
problem.

But maybe she's fine health-wise and is just wants something and I
just can't figure it out.

Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:38:58 GMT, Scott
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:17:25 -0500, "cybercat"
wrote:


"Scott" wrote
What makes it more frustrating is she gives nothing back, affection
wise.

She exhibits loving behavior (she will roll over on her back in our
presence, which I understand to be her way of saying "I love you"
based on FAQS I've read) but she doesn't want to be in physical
contact unless it's "by request" and it's her getting the attention.

....

You just described a combination of my two cats (maybe about to be 3),
Nipsy and Espy. Nipsy is ok being petted and held, but often whines
like he wants something and I have no idea what it is. Epsy is smart
and a handful, but will not tolerate being touched or picked up. He
will almost never sit in my lap. But, once in a while he will climb
into my lap and my SO and I realize that we've been awarded a top
honor. Somehow the rareness of the event makes it all the more
special.

Let's face it. Cats are weird.

Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

"Scott" wrote
So, you don't know what she wants?

No. And sometimes I feel just awful. I get paranoid and wonder if I
should take her to the vet to see if there's some sort of health
problem.

Know what? Your instincts might be right on. Our tuxedo cat howled
like that, and as it turns out her thyroid levels are sky high. She is on
medicine now and just fine, but untreated it can cause a stroke. It
also makes them hyperactive (kind of hypervigilant, jumpier than usual)
and irritable. But one of the chief symptoms is vocaliziing like that,
seemingly for no reason.


But maybe she's fine health-wise and is just wants something and I
just can't figure it out.

I think you should take her in. At my vet it costs $40-$50 to get
thyroid levels checked.

Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:09:02 -0500, dgk
wrote in :

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:38:58 GMT, Scott
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:17:25 -0500, "cybercat"
wrote:


"Scott" wrote
What makes it more frustrating is she gives nothing back, affection
wise.

She exhibits loving behavior (she will roll over on her back in our
presence, which I understand to be her way of saying "I love you"
based on FAQS I've read) but she doesn't want to be in physical
contact unless it's "by request" and it's her getting the attention.

...

You just described a combination of my two cats (maybe about to be 3),
Nipsy and Espy. Nipsy is ok being petted and held, but often whines
like he wants something and I have no idea what it is. Epsy is smart
and a handful, but will not tolerate being touched or picked up. He
will almost never sit in my lap. But, once in a while he will climb
into my lap and my SO and I realize that we've been awarded a top
honor. Somehow the rareness of the event makes it all the more
special.

Let's face it. Cats are weird.

Thank your deity that they cannot talk, or your ears might change colour!

--
Regards,
Nicolaas.

2007 Pricelessware CD now available. 600Mb of the best of the best in
Freeware. E-Mail me for details.




.... Since it's the early worm that gets eaten by the bird, sleep late.

Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

"Scott" wrote in message
...
I've owned a number of cats over the years (but never more than two at
once) and unlike the one we have now, they've all been the opposite of
the stereotype.

They've all been affectionate. They'd frequently curl up with you in
bed or on the couch, or they'd sit in your lap.

"Ellie" the cat we have now, does none of this. And if you try to hold
her she is immediately resistant (so I obviously let her go).

Our previous cat *loved* being held.

I realize no two cats are the same, I guess we've just had luck in the
past.

The frustrating thing in this situation though is that she seems
flat-out selfish.

She expects affection (but gives nothing back) and she seems to want
more and more of it every day.

This one *loves* having her tummy rubbed and what was once a
twice-a-day routine has now become a 4-5X a day routine.

Well actually, it still remains twice a day, but she frequently nags
for it throughout the day.

I get rather tired of that, so I don't "cave to her demands". Twice a
day is all I give her, period.

What makes it more frustrating is she gives nothing back, affection
wise.

She exhibits loving behavior (she will roll over on her back in our
presence, which I understand to be her way of saying "I love you"
based on FAQS I've read) but she doesn't want to be in physical
contact unless it's "by request" and it's her getting the attention.

I suppose if I want guaranteed adoration, I should get a dog. :0)

On a related note, often times she will come into the room I'm in and
start meowing like she wants something. If I'm busy, I'll ignore her
for a bit till the tone changes and it sounds as if she's pleading or
crying.

But when I get up and she takes off, she doesn't make it obvious as to
what she wants and since I don't speak "meow" I have no idea.

She doesn't take you to her food bowl (which I'll still check anyway).
She doesn't lead you to a door (she's an indoor cat but she often
likes looking outside through the screen door).

She's (surprisingly) not asking for affection (when she does, she runs
to her "spot" on an end table in the living room).

I really feel bad about it at times. It's a somewhat helpless
feeling.

But I digress...

It's frequently hard to know what they want....We have one who likes to
sleep in the clothes dryer....She yowls and complains if my wife leaves it
closed by mistake. Another comes into the kitchen and mews when there is
lots of food available, because she wants a little milk....As soon as she
gets some fresh milk, she will stop complaining and go back to her usual
activity.... (sleeping)

Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

"Nicolaas Hawkins" wrote in message
...

Thank your deity that they cannot talk, or your ears might change colour!

They are said to have an extensive "vocabulary" of cat sounds that other
cats understand....I know that they can growl so quietly that only another
cat will hear them and run away. Maybe someday we will develop a microphone
and computer program that can tell us what sound they are making and what
they probably want or are saying........

Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:01:23 -0800, William Graham
wrote in :

"Nicolaas Hawkins" wrote in message
...

Thank your deity that they cannot talk, or your ears might change colour!

They are said to have an extensive "vocabulary" of cat sounds that other
cats understand....I know that they can growl so quietly that only another
cat will hear them and run away. Maybe someday we will develop a microphone
and computer program that can tell us what sound they are making and what
they probably want or are saying........

Whilst I have often thought it would be interesting to know what they are
saying, greater sense has prevailed and I have come to the conclusion that
it is better for our own peace of mind that we not know, lest our personal
delusions of grandeur are forever shattered by the utterances of our
beloved fur-babies.

--
Regards,
Nicolaas.

2007 Pricelessware CD now available. 600Mb of the best of the best in
Freeware. E-Mail me for details.




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none of the fur, teeth, or claws to get stuck half-way down (or back up,
as the case may be).

Our cat. The kind of cat that gives cats a bad name.
 

on Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:32:13 GMT, Nicolaas Hawkins
wrote:

Whilst I have often thought it would be interesting to know what they
are saying, greater sense has prevailed and I have come to the
conclusion that it is better for our own peace of mind that we not
know, lest our personal delusions of grandeur are forever shattered by
the utterances of our beloved fur-babies.

I completely agree.

--
Lynne