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Joe July 1st 03 08:20 PM

declawing
 
wrote:

My poor little timid cat would be really freaked. She doesn't like any
surface she can't get a good grip on (she hates slippery floors) and
without her claws it would make the carpet that much more slippery for
her (she likes to dig her claws in and run when some new person is
coming in, you can hear her run frmo the claws being dug in).


Sometimes when Kiki is in a certain mood, she will grip the carpet with
her claws as she walks. I can hear her claws releasing with each step.


Devlin Tay August 5th 03 09:50 AM


"Linda Terrell" wrote in message
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Have several scratching posts around -- the kind with the rope
works best.


Yeah, they work really well. And kitty's claws will peel off regularly (the
old outer surface just sorta moulds as the younger tissue grows and pushes
out from underneath) when she uses the scratching posts, so clipping isn't
usually a problem when the kitty has, and regularly uses, a suitable
scratching post.

Devlin
Perth, Australia



kaeli August 5th 03 02:29 PM

In article ,
enlightened us with...

Yeah, they work really well. And kitty's claws will peel off regularly (the
old outer surface just sorta moulds as the younger tissue grows and pushes
out from underneath) when she uses the scratching posts, so clipping isn't
usually a problem when the kitty has, and regularly uses, a suitable
scratching post.


My cats love the sisal posts.

I do clip their nails though so when they run around chasing each other
like maniacs, their claws don't catch on the carpet or the couch. If I
don't clip, the claws are quite sharp and I've seen them catch on the
more plush materials. Gives me a fright that one time they'll hurt their
little fingers or toes. They are used to clipping and I've never nicked
the quick, so they all tolerate it well and two of them purr while I'm
doing it.


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Bill Henderson August 7th 03 12:56 PM


I am not a cat lover but their would have to be some bloody good reason to
make me to maltreat a it.


Doesn't make sense. It should have said:

I am not a cat lover but there would have to be a bloody good reason to make
me maltreat it.

Sorry

Bill



Bill Henderson August 7th 03 05:19 PM



She said she *clips* their claws. You know, trims them - clips off the
needle-sharp points.

Cathy

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Cathy
You are absolutely correct. Linda -SORRY!!!!!!!!!!

Off like a bull at a gate. Must stop and think. My only feeble excuse is
that I do tend to see red when I come across de-clawing. Again sorry.

Okay the claws can be out but not in an attack mode. They are still safe.

I think that kneading is used by kittens to encourage the mother to turn on
the taps for feeding. Perhaps it's a submissive signal when older?

Bill




Relish August 10th 03 11:32 PM

D. Stephen Heersink wrote:
I've always declawed my cats because they are always indoors and if I
don't, they will claw the furniture and me. Since I have expensive
furniture and don't want scars on me, I've found the declawing a cat
is the best way to accomplish our mutual goals. Some extremists think
those of us who do such things are savages, but I don't care. I love
my cats, and my cats love me, declawed and all. But of course, they
are NEVER allowed out doors.


Surely, you're not serious.


Relish August 10th 03 11:36 PM

Karen Chuplis wrote:
in article , D. Stephen Heersink at
wrote on 8/10/03 3:45 PM:


I've always declawed my cats because they are always indoors and if I
don't, they will claw the furniture and me. Since I have expensive
furniture and don't want scars on me, I've found the declawing a cat
is the best way to accomplish our mutual goals. Some extremists think
those of us who do such things are savages, but I don't care. I love
my cats, and my cats love me, declawed and all. But of course, they
are NEVER allowed out doors.


Kind regards,
___________________
D. Stephen Heersink
San Francisco



I've had cats all my life. I do not have scars. My furniture is fine. Learn
to train the cats. Or use Soft Paws.


Ditto. There is NO excuse for declawing cats. A caring,
compassionate person will make the comparitively small effort to learn
how to train the cats and invest the couple months needed to do so.

Scratching posts and sticky pawa are all you need, along with a small
bnit of intlligence and some patience.

Anything else is simply a lazy, arrogant cop out.

If you feel your cats need declawing, find another pet.


Gary August 11th 03 12:25 AM

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote:

Gary wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Cruel jerks like you always
*assume* that cats can't be trained (or, you just don't want to
invest the time in it), but, they can.


You'll never convince anyone that way. Sure way to make people shut
you out and not listen to your argument. Yeah, name-calling ALWAYS
influences people.

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Well, would you?


What's the difference between "name calling" and accurate descriptive
phrases?

Gary




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Gary August 11th 03 12:25 AM

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote:

Gary wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Cruel jerks like you always
*assume* that cats can't be trained (or, you just don't want to
invest the time in it), but, they can.


You'll never convince anyone that way. Sure way to make people shut
you out and not listen to your argument. Yeah, name-calling ALWAYS
influences people.

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http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
Well, would you?


What's the difference between "name calling" and accurate descriptive
phrases?

Gary




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bewtifulfreak August 11th 03 12:50 AM

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

Good luck with that statement. This group is nothing but extremists
who like to flame away people who are not of like mind or who they
cannot convert.


I'm not an extremist, but the fact is, most countries have banned declawing
for a reason, and many vets have expressed their professional opinion that
declawing is harmful to a cat, that it can cause a lot of pain, and often
psychological and/or behavior problems. I don't see why they would do this
if it was just a matter of personal preference. Considering how rarely
governments consider animal rights, the fact that so many have considered
declawing harmful enough to ban it sends a very strong message, and there
are certainly a number of fact-laden articles all over the 'Net (many by
vets) supporting that viewpoint. There is also a great deal of anecdotal
evidence regarding the aforementioned psychological and behavior problems,
much of it from shelters dealing with the fallout of this proceedure.

That is the reason it's very difficult for most people here not to get
angry, extreme or resort to name calling when they hear of people trying to
justify the proceedure; it is unneccessary, and there is a lot of evidence
which supports the idea that it can cause a cat a lot of misery. And as
this group is full of animal lovers, it angers them to hear people trying to
justify an unecessary procedure that makes innocent animals suffer....that's
only natural.

Ann




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