Being a Considerate Cat Owner
 

Some people have used moth-ball flakes around the forbidden area, but if it
were me, I would check first with my vet.

Sylvia

"bewtifulfreak" wrote in message
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Anyone have suggestions for keeping your cats out of a garden they're
unwelcome in? I don't want to have to keep them in, as they've been
enjoying going out for more than a year now - since before this person
moved
in, in fact - and they're generally very safe roaming out back, but I do
respect the fact that she's not too happy that they're interfering with
her
garden. She claims to have tried everything and given up; I have no idea
what she actually has tried, as she didn't really seem to want to discuss
the subject, seemed politely but annoyedly resigned, so I feel the onus is
on me. But other than try and fence little areas in the bushes that they
sneak through (and they could still just jump onto and over the fence),
I'm
at a real loss as to what I might do to resolve the situation. I want to
keep both neighbor and cats happy, but have no idea how I might acheive
this! Any ideas would be most gratefully received. :)

Ann

P.S. She never actually brought it up, but we had to go and ask her when
we
saw her out back once if the cats were bothering her or interfering with
her
garden, and got the answer we'd hoped not to hear! All the more reason I
wish I could do something about it, because even though she's doesn't
really
go out of her way to be neighborly to us, she's always been polite and
never
made the stink that she could have about the cats, so I'd really like to
try
and show her some consideration in return.

Great ideas about pepper and the box! To be honest, I'm not sure what
they're doing in particular, just that when my hubby said, "I hope the cats
aren't bothering you," and I said, "They're not messing up your garden or
anything, are they?" she just looked sheepish and nodded. So I don't know
if they're chewing, digging, pooping, or what, but the box sure couldn't
hurt, as I know they use their box a *lot* less when they're going outside a
lot (virtually never, unless I don't let them out for a day), so they must
be going somewhere, and her garden is as likely a place as any. I have seen
one of them use our yard, which is a bit of a wasteland at the moment, so it
stands to reason they very well might be using the nice soft soil in hers as
well. And the pepper thing is great, too (similar to the mothballs, except
no question as to toxicity), I'll definitely have to try that! I was also
thinking some kind of extention for our garden wall; before we bought the
place, the landlord replaced the crumbled half of the wall with a fence
(after years of hassle from the previous neighbors, since before we moved
in!), and that's too thin for them to jump on (I *think*), but part of the
remaining wall is low enough for them to jump on and over, and they do, so I
was also thinking maybe something to extend that a bit higher, but not sure
what....but anyway, those other ideas sound really helpful, and will
definitely try them!

Thanks to everyone who responded, what a great bunch.... :)

Ann

"pcb" wrote in message
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bewtifulfreak wrote:

... so I
was also thinking maybe something to extend that a bit higher, but not
sure
what....but anyway, those other ideas sound really helpful, and will
definitely try them!

Thanks to everyone who responded, what a great bunch.... :)

Ann


I had something similar to this made in my garden.
http://www.mainecoonguild.org.uk/Gar...en_safety.html

Maybe it will give you some ideas of what you can do in your own garden.

pcb


Nice!

"pcb" wrote in message
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I had something similar to this made in my garden.
http://www.mainecoonguild.org.uk/Gar...en_safety.html

Maybe it will give you some ideas of what you can do in your own garden.

Another good idea, especially because my spoil sport husband had to go and
mention that, helpful though many of the ideas mentioned have been, the
frequent rains of England could interfere with many of them, while it
doesn't stop the cats going out any (they may hate the idea of baths, but
they sure don't seem to mind the rain)! So, although I'm definitely still
going to try many of the other good ideas suggested - we do get a decent dry
spell in summer - a large enclosure like that might work best in the long
run; not only would it please the neighbor with the garden, but the other
neighbors' dog would probably appreciate not being harassed any more as
well! Only thing is, it looks *terribly* expensive, and we're permanently
broke at the moment, at least until some things get paid off, so that good
idea will have to be filed at the moment for future reference.... :)

Ann

"bewtifulfreak" wrote in message
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"pcb" wrote in message
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I had something similar to this made in my garden.
http://www.mainecoonguild.org.uk/Gar...en_safety.html

Maybe it will give you some ideas of what you can do in your own garden.

Another good idea, especially because my spoil sport husband had to go and
mention that, helpful though many of the ideas mentioned have been, the
frequent rains of England could interfere with many of them, while it
doesn't stop the cats going out any (they may hate the idea of baths, but
they sure don't seem to mind the rain)! So, although I'm definitely still
going to try many of the other good ideas suggested - we do get a decent
dry
spell in summer - a large enclosure like that might work best in the long
run; not only would it please the neighbor with the garden, but the other
neighbors' dog would probably appreciate not being harassed any more as
well! Only thing is, it looks *terribly* expensive, and we're permanently
broke at the moment, at least until some things get paid off, so that good
idea will have to be filed at the moment for future reference.... :)

I bet it's not that expensive if done by hubby! What a great fun project
too
and the website was nice enough to provide instructions. I think it looks
wonderful! I don't have a problem with Sasha leaving her yard but I may
do something similar just because I like the looks and it will keep strays
from
harassing Sasha when she plays outside. Print it out, go over it with your
hubby and modify to fit your needs then go down to the local hardware and
price it out. You may be surprised since it doesn't have to be made out of
2x4.

AG

"pcb" wrote in message
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I had something similar to this made in my garden.
http://www.mainecoonguild.org.uk/Gar...en_safety.html


What a beautiful garden!

in article , Cheryl at wrote
on 7/29/03 8:10 PM:

"bewtifulfreak" wrote in message
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...only problem is, I don't always know how to do it myself)! In any
case, though, I'm more than willing to give it a go....still have to
budget
for the materials, but I suppose they could be aquired bit by
bit....!

That's the spirit Ann! That's what I did. I bought the biggest part
of the enclosure when I could afford it (the mesh material for the
"walls") and then picked up the other pieces I needed when I could. A
few 2x4s, some ground spikes, a heavy duty stapler, and then I had
everything to make it. The insert for my sliding glass door with a
flap was aquired from someone in the rescue group I volunteer for and
she only asked for a small monetary donation to the group. Of course
cat flaps can be gotten cheap depending on how you want to put on in.
You can even find one that you install right into a screen door or a
screen window but I see you're in the UK and I don't think you use
those in all cases. My enclosure is very crudely built but it's
secure and they love it.

I need to add a picture from the outside, but here is one of my
kitties enjoying the sun
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP


I'm so jealous!!!

Karen

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, bewtifulfreak wrote:

"Cheryl" wrote in message

I need to add a picture from the outside, but here is one of my
kitties enjoying the sun
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP

Your Shadow's a doll, he looks almost exactly like my Greebo (big ol' black
boy with teddy bear face)!

Aww Cheryl *hug* !!

I don't usually get to look at everyone's photos because pine doesn't
support links (and I haven't figured out how to cut and paste with the
windows 2000 telnet box), but I had to see Shadow, I feel like he's out
brother! He's just as handsome as can be. I'm looking at your after
hospital pics now, and I feel so bad for both of you. I know just how you
felt. It makes me sad to see the little shaved spot on Shadow's leg, h0p
had them in his front and back legs each more than once the first time,
and has a new one now. It always bothered me that Sunny died with her
front legs shaved like that ...just didn't seem right. Well, hell. that
all got more maudlin than I'd intended! Shadow's awesome, he reminds me
of my Sam :)


Dee

"Dee" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, bewtifulfreak wrote:

"Cheryl" wrote in message

I need to add a picture from the outside, but here is one of my
kitties enjoying the sun
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP

Your Shadow's a doll, he looks almost exactly like my Greebo (big ol'
black
boy with teddy bear face)!

Aww Cheryl *hug* !!

I don't usually get to look at everyone's photos because pine doesn't
support links (and I haven't figured out how to cut and paste with the
windows 2000 telnet box), but I had to see Shadow, I feel like he's out
brother! He's just as handsome as can be. I'm looking at your after
hospital pics now, and I feel so bad for both of you.

Oh, what happened to Shadow, Cheryl? I didn't realize! Is he okay now? I
know how you feel, too, Dee; it was so sad when we had to have our little
Gaspode put to sleep, and he had the little shaved leg where they'd taken
blood or whatever. It just makes them look that much more vulnerable.

Ann

Dee wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, bewtifulfreak wrote:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP

Your Shadow's a doll, he looks almost exactly like my Greebo (big
ol' black boy with teddy bear face)!

I never heard him described that way but you're absolutely right. lol
Actually, years ago when he got his full figure (he was badly
malnourished and skinny as a rail when I took him in) he reminded me
of a bear -- very muscular. Greebo sounds very special, too. :)

Aww Cheryl *hug* !!

I don't usually get to look at everyone's photos because pine
doesn't
support links (and I haven't figured out how to cut and paste with
the
windows 2000 telnet box), but I had to see Shadow, I feel like he's
out brother! He's just as handsome as can be. I'm looking at your
after hospital pics now, and I feel so bad for both of you. I know
just how you felt. It makes me sad to see the little shaved spot on
Shadow's leg, h0p had them in his front and back legs each more than
once the first time,

You should have see the ruckus caused by a pic I posted in the binary
group after his liver aspiration and his tummy was shaved. I took a
pic because the vet said to watch out for black spots so I wanted a
record of what it looked like. I called the thread "Shaved Pussy"
;o)

and has a new one now. It always bothered me that Sunny died with
her
front legs shaved like that ...just didn't seem right. Well, hell.
that all got more maudlin than I'd intended! Shadow's awesome, he
reminds me
of my Sam :)


Dee

Awww... I'm sure Sunny knew you were doing all you could for her and
her shaved legs were a tribute to that. Poor girl. She's in a better
place now.

Cheryl