advice would be appreciated. colitis ?
I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise healthy. On
Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try and eat a blackbird. I removed the bird. Later in the day she seemed a little lacklustre and on Monday morning she did not go out as she normally would when I open the door (both my cats go and patrol the gardens first thing) instead she lay on the bed and I returned and she stayed with me for a while. Then she went to her tray and seemed to produce some pretty soft and messy faeces. She seemed very lifeless and it was very wet and messy around her anus. I tried to wipe it with some kitchen towel but she was not enthusiastic and would not let me. She tried to clean herself up by licking it (yuk) She spent the day lazing about and sleeping and ate almost nothing. But in the evening she had made a small bit of progress. On tuesday morning she wentoutside for some time, ansd was brighter, and indeed very keen to eat. Although she was brighter she did not appear to be much interested in grooming. I decided to take her to a vet. Near me is a practice that is very basic and charges a small fee and have a walk in hour (no appointment needed) I took her there and was first in (thus avoiding a long wait with barking dog patients) The vet examined and said he could find no abnormality and he said he would gu=ive her his pick me up. I asked what it wass and he said it would be vitamins and antibiotics. I refused the antibiotics as on a previous occasion the intramuscular injection caused my other cat not to be able to walk properly for over a day and because it was far from clear after only a 24 hr or so illness that infection was evident. Nonetheless the vitamin injection seemed also to be applied the painful intramuscular way (large needle into front shoulder area. ) The cat screamed, and when I got her home rapidly developed shaking and trembling and staggering about and clingy. After half an hour she was more competant on her feet and steadily ambled to the bedroom where she jumpted onto the bed and curled up for a sleep. I decided after some frantic phone calls not to take her back to the vet (or the other vets I use) and instead let her rest and closely observe her. In the evening she joined us in the living room and rested quietly, then spent the night on my bed with me, as usual. I think that vet hates cats and is disrespectful of dogs. Other people have told me that he has been brutal towards clients animals. Thats another story but I thought his injection came close to killing my cat and its only since that trauma that the tiny red blood spots/mucus appeared in the litter tray On Wednesday morning she was keen to go out and more normal, ate plenty etc. But in the afternoon I noticed that on the litter tray surface was some muvus and blood (the very tiniest amount. Probably not enough to paint a fingernail. And about 3 hours later I observed her do it again This time a little bit of faeces in which was a tiny bit of blood and mucus. Then at bedtime she left the bed used the litter tray and this morning I could another small example. So several hours seem to be between attempts to defecate This morning (Thursday) she has gone out, ate etc but I think she is lethargic and quiet (as throughout most of the last days) So it seemed to have started dramatically on Monday and all her elimination until wednesday 5pm seemed just softer than normal, now there are tiny bright red spots/flecks of blood I observe also a tendency to strain a bit at the litterbox She has like a spasm does not cry out but it looks as though he colon thinks there is something ti eliminate but there isnt. So now the dilemma. A trip to the vets today ? A bright eyed otherwise lacklustre creature that is eating.drinking and spending some time outside as well as not hiding away inside. Should I rush to a vet ? It will involve a real struggle to get her into the carrier (can take 5 minutes of fighting ) Or shoukld I watch and wait for another 24/48 hours. She seemed keen for me to lie down on the bed and snuggle on my chest. Last night for 2 hours in mid evening. I think that might be that any soreness from colitus may be soothed by the warmth. Like putting a hot water bottle on the tummy when poorly Both my cats are insured, and so cost is not an issue My reading indicates the greatest liklihood is colitis, unlikely to be parasite related in the adult cat. More likely other causes./ I really wonder about that dead bird. Any advice would be appreciated |
advice would be appreciated. colitis ?
On Jan 24, 7:02 am, dragon wrote:
I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise healthy. On Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try and eat a blackbird. I removed the bird. Later in the day she seemed a little lacklustre and on Monday morning she did not go out as she normally would when I open the door (both my cats go and patrol the gardens first thing) instead she lay on the bed and I returned and she stayed with me for a while. Then she went to her tray and seemed to produce some pretty soft and messy faeces. She seemed very lifeless and it was very wet and messy around her anus. I tried to wipe it with some kitchen towel but she was not enthusiastic and would not let me. She tried to clean herself up by licking it (yuk) She spent the day lazing about and sleeping and ate almost nothing. But in the evening she had made a small bit of progress. On tuesday morning she wentoutside for some time, ansd was brighter, and indeed very keen to eat. Although she was brighter she did not appear to be much interested in grooming. I decided to take her to a vet. Near me is a practice that is very basic and charges a small fee and have a walk in hour (no appointment needed) I took her there and was first in (thus avoiding a long wait with barking dog patients) The vet examined and said he could find no abnormality and he said he would gu=ive her his pick me up. I asked what it wass and he said it would be vitamins and antibiotics. I refused the antibiotics as on a previous occasion the intramuscular injection caused my other cat not to be able to walk properly for over a day and because it was far from clear after only a 24 hr or so illness that infection was evident. Nonetheless the vitamin injection seemed also to be applied the painful intramuscular way (large needle into front shoulder area. ) The cat screamed, and when I got her home rapidly developed shaking and trembling and staggering about and clingy. After half an hour she was more competant on her feet and steadily ambled to the bedroom where she jumpted onto the bed and curled up for a sleep. I decided after some frantic phone calls not to take her back to the vet (or the other vets I use) and instead let her rest and closely observe her. In the evening she joined us in the living room and rested quietly, then spent the night on my bed with me, as usual. I think that vet hates cats and is disrespectful of dogs. Other people have told me that he has been brutal towards clients animals. Thats another story but I thought his injection came close to killing my cat and its only since that trauma that the tiny red blood spots/mucus appeared in the litter tray On Wednesday morning she was keen to go out and more normal, ate plenty etc. But in the afternoon I noticed that on the litter tray surface was some muvus and blood (the very tiniest amount. Probably not enough to paint a fingernail. And about 3 hours later I observed her do it again This time a little bit of faeces in which was a tiny bit of blood and mucus. Then at bedtime she left the bed used the litter tray and this morning I could another small example. So several hours seem to be between attempts to defecate This morning (Thursday) she has gone out, ate etc but I think she is lethargic and quiet (as throughout most of the last days) So it seemed to have started dramatically on Monday and all her elimination until wednesday 5pm seemed just softer than normal, now there are tiny bright red spots/flecks of blood I observe also a tendency to strain a bit at the litterbox She has like a spasm does not cry out but it looks as though he colon thinks there is something ti eliminate but there isnt. So now the dilemma. A trip to the vets today ? A bright eyed otherwise lacklustre creature that is eating.drinking and spending some time outside as well as not hiding away inside. Should I rush to a vet ? It will involve a real struggle to get her into the carrier (can take 5 minutes of fighting ) Or shoukld I watch and wait for another 24/48 hours. She seemed keen for me to lie down on the bed and snuggle on my chest. Last night for 2 hours in mid evening. I think that might be that any soreness from colitus may be soothed by the warmth. Like putting a hot water bottle on the tummy when poorly Both my cats are insured, and so cost is not an issue My reading indicates the greatest liklihood is colitis, unlikely to be parasite related in the adult cat. More likely other causes./ I really wonder about that dead bird. Any advice would be appreciated Its a bit odd that you have decided to take a sick cat to a vet who is conviently near to your house but has a bad reputation and doesnt even know how to properly dispense medications to animals. Very odd especially since money is no object. You'd better take that cat the best vet you can find. We all know it is dangerous to allow our cats to go outside at will where there are all kinds of dangers lurking: virus, poison, larger carniverous animals, cruel people, fleas, poison, etc. My cat came in from the cold, so to speak. He was a stray and I dont have the heart to deny him his daily visits outside. He insists on doing his business outside and rarely uses the litter box. If your cat is suddenly started to use the litter box, please take the cat to a competent vet immediately. You seem very fond of her and will be very unhappy when she dies. |
advice would be appreciated. colitis ?
On Jan 24, 2:35 pm, honeybunch wrote:
On Jan 24, 7:02 am, dragon wrote: I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise healthy. On Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try and eat a blackbird. I removed the bird. Later in the day she seemed a little lacklustre and on Monday morning she did not go out as she normally would when I open the door (both my cats go and patrol the gardens first thing) instead she lay on the bed and I returned and she stayed with me for a while. Then she went to her tray and seemed to produce some pretty soft and messy faeces. She seemed very lifeless and it was very wet and messy around her anus. I tried to wipe it with some kitchen towel but she was not enthusiastic and would not let me. She tried to clean herself up by licking it (yuk) She spent the day lazing about and sleeping and ate almost nothing. But in the evening she had made a small bit of progress. On tuesday morning she wentoutside for some time, ansd was brighter, and indeed very keen to eat. Although she was brighter she did not appear to be much interested in grooming. I decided to take her to a vet. Near me is a practice that is very basic and charges a small fee and have a walk in hour (no appointment needed) I took her there and was first in (thus avoiding a long wait with barking dog patients) The vet examined and said he could find no abnormality and he said he would gu=ive her his pick me up. I asked what it wass and he said it would be vitamins and antibiotics. I refused the antibiotics as on a previous occasion the intramuscular injection caused my other cat not to be able to walk properly for over a day and because it was far from clear after only a 24 hr or so illness that infection was evident. Nonetheless the vitamin injection seemed also to be applied the painful intramuscular way (large needle into front shoulder area. ) The cat screamed, and when I got her home rapidly developed shaking and trembling and staggering about and clingy. After half an hour she was more competant on her feet and steadily ambled to the bedroom where she jumpted onto the bed and curled up for a sleep. I decided after some frantic phone calls not to take her back to the vet (or the other vets I use) and instead let her rest and closely observe her. In the evening she joined us in the living room and rested quietly, then spent the night on my bed with me, as usual. I think that vet hates cats and is disrespectful of dogs. Other people have told me that he has been brutal towards clients animals. Thats another story but I thought his injection came close to killing my cat and its only since that trauma that the tiny red blood spots/mucus appeared in the litter tray On Wednesday morning she was keen to go out and more normal, ate plenty etc. But in the afternoon I noticed that on the litter tray surface was some muvus and blood (the very tiniest amount. Probably not enough to paint a fingernail. And about 3 hours later I observed her do it again This time a little bit of faeces in which was a tiny bit of blood and mucus. Then at bedtime she left the bed used the litter tray and this morning I could another small example. So several hours seem to be between attempts to defecate This morning (Thursday) she has gone out, ate etc but I think she is lethargic and quiet (as throughout most of the last days) So it seemed to have started dramatically on Monday and all her elimination until wednesday 5pm seemed just softer than normal, now there are tiny bright red spots/flecks of blood I observe also a tendency to strain a bit at the litterbox She has like a spasm does not cry out but it looks as though he colon thinks there is something ti eliminate but there isnt. So now the dilemma. A trip to the vets today ? A bright eyed otherwise lacklustre creature that is eating.drinking and spending some time outside as well as not hiding away inside. Should I rush to a vet ? It will involve a real struggle to get her into the carrier (can take 5 minutes of fighting ) Or shoukld I watch and wait for another 24/48 hours. She seemed keen for me to lie down on the bed and snuggle on my chest. Last night for 2 hours in mid evening. I think that might be that any soreness from colitus may be soothed by the warmth. Like putting a hot water bottle on the tummy when poorly Both my cats are insured, and so cost is not an issue My reading indicates the greatest liklihood is colitis, unlikely to be parasite related in the adult cat. More likely other causes./ I really wonder about that dead bird. Any advice would be appreciated Its a bit odd that you have decided to take a sick cat to a vet who is conviently near to your house but has a bad reputation and doesnt even know how to properly dispense medications to animals. Very odd especially since money is no object. You'd better take that cat the best vet you can find. We all know it is dangerous to allow our cats to go outside at will where there are all kinds of dangers lurking: virus, poison, larger carniverous animals, cruel people, fleas, poison, etc. My cat came in from the cold, so to speak. He was a stray and I dont have the heart to deny him his daily visits outside. He insists on doing his business outside and rarely uses the litter box. If your cat is suddenly started to use the litter box, please take the cat to a competent vet immediately. You seem very fond of her and will be very unhappy when she dies. Thanks for the reply., But I need to make some responses, Initially I should point out that the cat uses the litterbox sometimes anyway, and other times she goes outside. I keep both my cats inside from dusk onwards and so the litterbox is always available to them. 1. This cat was hardly "ill" within the sense of needingto be taken to a vet at all. She had about a 24hr bout of being out of sorts and with somewhat soft faeces./ She had not been sick. I was being vigilant even though the cat was at the time 50 to 70 per cent better. 2. I did not suit corners in the sense you think. The vet has an asistant who almost always takes the cases. That assistant is clearly competent and compassionate It was unusual that the principal himself saw my cat this time. Additionally, that practice is convenient in that it is possible to arrange ones visit so that no other clients are there (with their barking dogs etc) 3. My 2 cats. Both were rescued by me. Neighbours did not want them,. failed to care for them properly etc. Like you I allow them to maintain their outdoor lifestyle as the road here is very quiet (on a housing estate) and the gardens are very cat friendly. I agree indoors only is the safest and kindest one from the viewpoint of preventing physical suffering. I think however that outdoor cats should continue to be allowed that freedom except in such cases as where there is a substantial risk of harm such as from a main road etc. Thanks for the reply |
advice would be appreciated. colitis ?
Please take your kitty to the vet today - a good one, not the one you
previously went to. Anytime there is blood, you should not question going to the vet - go!!! Sharon On Jan 24, 10:07�am, dragon wrote: On Jan 24, 2:35 pm, honeybunch wrote: On Jan 24, 7:02 am, dragon wrote: I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise �healthy. �On Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try and eat a blackbird. � I removed the bird. �Later in the day �she seemed a little lacklustre �and on Monday morning she did not go out as she normally would when I open the door (both my cats go and patrol the gardens �first thing) � �instead �she lay on the bed and I returned and she stayed with me for a while. �Then she went to her tray and seemed to produce some pretty soft and messy faeces. �She seemed very lifeless �and it was very wet and messy around her anus. I tried to wipe it with some kitchen towel but she was not enthusiastic and would not let me. �She tried to clean herself up by licking it �(yuk) She spent the day lazing about and sleeping and ate almost nothing. But in the evening she had made a small bit of progress. �On tuesday morning she wentoutside for some time, ansd was brighter, and indeed very keen to eat. � Although she was brighter she did not appear to be much interested in grooming. �I decided to take her to a vet. �Near me is a practice that is very basic and charges a small fee and have a walk in hour �(no appointment needed) � �I �took her there and was first in (thus avoiding a long wait with barking dog patients) The vet examined and said he could find no abnormality �and he said he would gu=ive her his pick me up. �I asked �what it wass and he said it would be vitamins �and antibiotics. � I refused the antibiotics as on a previous occasion �the intramuscular injection caused my other cat not to be able to walk properly for over a day and because it was far from clear after only a 24 hr or so illness that infection was evident. � Nonetheless �the vitamin injection seemed �also to be applied the painful intramuscular way �(large needle �into front shoulder area. �) � �The �cat screamed, and �when I got her home rapidly �developed �shaking and trembling and staggering about �and clingy. �After half an hour she was more competant on her feet and steadily ambled to the bedroom where �she jumpted onto the bed and curled up for a sleep. �I decided after some frantic �phone calls not to take her �back to the vet �(or �the other vets I use) and instead let her rest �and closely observe her. �In the evening she joined us in the living room and rested �quietly, then spent the night on my bed with me, as usual. I think that vet hates cats �and is disrespectful of dogs. �Other people have told me that he has been brutal towards �clients animals. �Thats another �story but I thought his injection came close to killing my cat and its only �since that trauma �that the tiny red blood �spots/mucus appeared in the litter tray On Wednesday morning she was keen to go out and more normal, �ate plenty etc. �But in the afternoon I noticed �that on the litter tray surface was some muvus �and blood �(the very tiniest amount. Probably not enough to paint a �fingernail. � And �about 3 �hours later I observed her do it again �This time a little bit of faeces in which was a tiny bit of blood and mucus. Then at bedtime she left �the bed used �the litter tray and �this morning I could another �small example. � So several hours seem to be between attempts to defecate This morning �(Thursday) � she has �gone out, �ate �etc �but I �think she is lethargic �and quiet �(as �throughout most of the last days) So it seemed to have started dramatically on Monday �and all her elimination until wednesday 5pm seemed just softer than normal, �now there are tiny bright red spots/flecks of blood I observe also a tendency to strain a bit �at the litterbox � �She has like a spasm does not cry out but it looks as though he colon thinks there is something ti eliminate but there isnt. So now �the dilemma. �A trip to the vets today ? � �A bright eyed otherwise lacklustre creature �that is eating.drinking and spending some time outside as well as not hiding away inside. �Should I rush to a vet ? � � It will involve a �real struggle to get her into the carrier � (can take 5 minutes �of fighting ) � �Or �shoukld I watch and wait for another �24/48 hours. She seemed keen for me to lie �down on the bed �and snuggle on my chest. Last night for 2 hours in mid �evening. �I think that might be that any soreness from colitus may be soothed by the warmth. �Like putting a hot �water bottle on the tummy when poorly Both my �cats are insured, and so cost is not an issue My reading indicates �the greatest liklihood �is �colitis, unlikely to be parasite related in the adult �cat. �More likely other causes./ I really wonder about that dead �bird. Any advice would be appreciated Its a bit odd that you have decided to take a sick cat to a vet who is conviently near to your house but has a bad reputation and doesnt even know how to properly dispense medications to animals. �Very odd especially since money is no object. �You'd better take that cat the best vet you can find. �We all know it is dangerous to allow our cats to go outside at will where there are all kinds of dangers lurking: virus, poison, larger carniverous animals, cruel people, fleas, poison, etc. �My cat came in from the cold, so to speak. �He was a stray and I dont have the heart to deny him his daily visits outside. He insists on doing his business outside and rarely uses the litter box. �If your cat is suddenly started to use the litter box, please take the cat to a competent vet immediately. �You seem very fond of her and will be very unhappy when she dies. Thanks for the reply., � But I need to make some responses, Initially I should point out that the cat uses the litterbox sometimes anyway, and other times she goes �outside. � �I keep both my cats inside from dusk onwards and so the litterbox is always available to them. 1. �This cat was hardly "ill" �within the sense of needingto be taken to a vet �at all. �She had about a 24hr �bout of being out of sorts and with somewhat soft faeces./ �She had not been sick. � I was being vigilant even though the cat was at the time 50 to 70 per cent better. 2. �I did not �suit corners in the sense you think. � The vet has an asistant who almost always takes the cases. � That assistant �is clearly �competent and compassionate � �It was unusual that the principal �himself �saw my cat this time. � Additionally, that practice is convenient in that it is possible to arrange ones visit so that no other clients �are there �(with their barking dogs �etc) 3. � � My 2 �cats. �Both were rescued by me. �Neighbours �did not want �them,. failed to care for them properly etc. � �Like you I allow �them to maintain their outdoor lifestyle as the road here is very quiet (on a housing �estate) �and the gardens are very cat friendly. � �I agree �indoors only is the safest and kindest one �from the viewpoint of preventing physical suffering. � I think however that outdoor cats should continue to be allowed that freedom except in such cases as where there is a substantial risk of harm such as from a main road etc. Thanks �for the reply- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Jan 24, 5:36 pm, "Buddy's Mom" wrote:
Please take your kitty to the vet today - a good one, not the one you previously went to. Anytime there is blood, you should not question going to the vet - go!!! Sharon On Jan 24, 10:07�am, dragon wrote: On Jan 24, 2:35 pm, honeybunch wrote: On Jan 24, 7:02 am, dragon wrote: I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise �healthy. �On Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try and eat a blackbird. � I removed the bird. �Later in the day �she seemed a little lacklustre �and on Monday morning she did not go out as she normally would when I open the door (both my cats go and patrol the gardens �first thing) � �instead �she lay on the bed and I returned and she stayed with me for a while. �Then she went to her tray and seemed to produce some pretty soft and messy faeces. �She seemed very lifeless �and it was very wet and messy around her anus. I tried to wipe it with some kitchen towel but she was not enthusiastic and would not let me. �She tried to clean herself up by licking it �(yuk) She spent the day lazing about and sleeping and ate almost nothing. But in the evening she had made a small bit of progress. �On tuesday morning she wentoutside for some time, ansd was brighter, and indeed very keen to eat. � Although she was brighter she did not appear to be much interested in grooming. �I decided to take her to a vet.. �Near me is a practice that is very basic and charges a small fee and have a walk in hour �(no appointment needed) � �I �took her there and was first in (thus avoiding a long wait with barking dog patients) The vet examined and said he could find no abnormality �and he said he would gu=ive her his pick me up. �I asked �what it wass and he said it would be vitamins �and antibiotics. � I refused the antibiotics as on a previous occasion �the intramuscular injection caused my other cat not to be able to walk properly for over a day and because it was far from clear after only a 24 hr or so illness that infection was evident. � Nonetheless �the vitamin injection seemed �also to be applied the painful intramuscular way �(large needle �into front shoulder area. �) � �The �cat screamed, and �when I got her home rapidly �developed �shaking and trembling and staggering about �and clingy. �After half an hour she was more competant on her feet and steadily ambled to the bedroom where �she jumpted onto the bed and curled up for a sleep. �I decided after some frantic �phone calls not to take her �back to the vet �(or �the other vets I use) and instead let her rest �and closely observe her. �In the evening she joined us in the living room and rested �quietly, then spent the night on my bed with me, as usual. I think that vet hates cats �and is disrespectful of dogs. �Other people have told me that he has been brutal towards �clients animals. �Thats another �story but I thought his injection came close to killing my cat and its only �since that trauma �that the tiny red blood �spots/mucus appeared in the litter tray On Wednesday morning she was keen to go out and more normal, �ate plenty etc. �But in the afternoon I noticed �that on the litter tray surface was some muvus �and blood �(the very tiniest amount. Probably not enough to paint a �fingernail. � And �about 3 �hours later I observed her do it again �This time a little bit of faeces in which was a tiny bit of blood and mucus. Then at bedtime she left �the bed used �the litter tray and �this morning I could another �small example. � So several hours seem to be between attempts to defecate This morning �(Thursday) � she has �gone out, �ate �etc �but I �think she is lethargic �and quiet �(as �throughout most of the last days) So it seemed to have started dramatically on Monday �and all her elimination until wednesday 5pm seemed just softer than normal, �now there are tiny bright red spots/flecks of blood I observe also a tendency to strain a bit �at the litterbox � �She has like a spasm does not cry out but it looks as though he colon thinks there is something ti eliminate but there isnt. So now �the dilemma. �A trip to the vets today ? � �A bright eyed otherwise lacklustre creature �that is eating.drinking and spending some time outside as well as not hiding away inside. �Should I rush to a vet ? � � It will involve a �real struggle to get her into the carrier � (can take 5 minutes �of fighting ) � �Or �shoukld I watch and wait for another �24/48 hours. She seemed keen for me to lie �down on the bed �and snuggle on my chest. Last night for 2 hours in mid �evening. �I think that might be that any soreness from colitus may be soothed by the warmth. �Like putting a hot �water bottle on the tummy when poorly Both my �cats are insured, and so cost is not an issue My reading indicates �the greatest liklihood �is �colitis, unlikely to be parasite related in the adult �cat. �More likely other causes./ I really wonder about that dead �bird. Any advice would be appreciated Its a bit odd that you have decided to take a sick cat to a vet who is conviently near to your house but has a bad reputation and doesnt even know how to properly dispense medications to animals. �Very odd especially since money is no object. �You'd better take that cat the best vet you can find. �We all know it is dangerous to allow our cats to go outside at will where there are all kinds of dangers lurking: virus, poison, larger carniverous animals, cruel people, fleas, poison, etc. �My cat came in from the cold, so to speak. �He was a stray and I dont have the heart to deny him his daily visits outside. He insists on doing his business outside and rarely uses the litter box. �If your cat is suddenly started to use the litter box, please take the cat to a competent vet immediately. �You seem very fond of her and will be very unhappy when she dies. Thanks for the reply., � But I need to make some responses, Initially I should point out that the cat uses the litterbox sometimes anyway, and other times she goes �outside. � �I keep both my cats inside from dusk onwards and so the litterbox is always available to them. 1. �This cat was hardly "ill" �within the sense of needingto be taken to a vet �at all. �She had about a 24hr �bout of being out of sorts and with somewhat soft faeces./ �She had not been sick. � I was being vigilant even though the cat was at the time 50 to 70 per cent better. 2. �I did not �suit corners in the sense you think. � The vet has an asistant who almost always takes the cases. � That assistant �is clearly �competent and compassionate � �It was unusual that the principal �himself �saw my cat this time. � Additionally, that practice is convenient in that it is possible to arrange ones visit so that no other clients �are there �(with their barking dogs �etc) 3. � � My 2 �cats. �Both were rescued by me. �Neighbours �did not want �them,. failed to care for them properly etc. � �Like you I allow �them to maintain their outdoor lifestyle as the road here is very quiet (on a housing �estate) �and the gardens are very cat friendly. � �I agree �indoors only is the safest and kindest one �from the viewpoint of preventing physical suffering. � I think however that outdoor cats should continue to be allowed that freedom except in such cases as where there is a substantial risk of harm such as from a main road etc. Thanks �for the reply- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thank you for the reply. Today its a bit late to arrange it but on the positive front. At the time of writing I can confirm the cat is sleeping cozily on the settee, she has eaten, and spent 2 hours outside. During the night (and since she has been inside today for 6 hours now) nothing has been defacated. Additionally, she lies comfortably and does not hunch or flinch when handled. She looks quite calm ar the moment, and I will not hesitate to act swiftly should anything change this evening. If you recall, my post described a very traumatic vets trip on tuesday. Only since then was any blood noted and you might discover when reading that stressful events can themselves cause such disruption to the colon mucosa. In this case that mucosa was probably already inflamed as the history suggests. Now, does anyone really want me to whip my cat from the settee on the basis of a so far entirely isolated and potentially explained spot (for thats what it was) of blood. To fight to get into the carrier and then have it waiting at a vets with lots of dogs barking for perhaps up to half an hour ? I think a isolated case of a few tiny specks of bright red blood ( less than 0.2 cm in diameter at most against the history of an acute bowel upset are not so serious as obviously substantial qauntities and it is a matter of judgement to decide the balance between the animals actual need for examination and the potentially aggravating impact of getting the animal there and the enduring of the alien environment and the physical examination itself. |
advice would be appreciated. colitis ?
On 24 Jan, 18:19, dragon wrote:
On Jan 24, 5:36 pm, "Buddy's Mom" wrote: Please take your kitty to the vet today - a good one, not the one you previously went to. Anytime there is blood, you should not question going to the vet - go!!! Sharon On Jan 24, 10:07�am, dragon wrote: On Jan 24, 2:35 pm, honeybunch wrote: On Jan 24, 7:02 am, dragon wrote: I havea 4 year old neutered female cat who is otherwise �healthy. �On Sunday morning she was caught under my kitchen table starting to try and eat a blackbird. � I removed the bird. �Later in the day �she seemed a little lacklustre �and on Monday morning she did not go out as she normally would when I open the door (both my cats go and patrol the gardens �first thing) � �instead �she lay on the bed and I returned and she stayed with me for a while. �Then she went to her tray and seemed to produce some pretty soft and messy faeces. �She seemed very lifeless �and it was very wet and messy around her anus. I tried to wipe it with some kitchen towel but she was not enthusiastic and would not let me. �She tried to clean herself up by licking it �(yuk) She spent the day lazing about and sleeping and ate almost nothing.. But in the evening she had made a small bit of progress. �On tuesday morning she wentoutside for some time, ansd was brighter, and indeed very keen to eat. � Although she was brighter she did not appear to be much interested in grooming. �I decided to take her to a vet. �Near me is a practice that is very basic and charges a small fee and have a walk in hour �(no appointment needed) � �I �took her there and was first in (thus avoiding a long wait with barking dog patients) The vet examined and said he could find no abnormality �and he said he would gu=ive her his pick me up. �I asked �what it wass and he said it would be vitamins �and antibiotics. � I refused the antibiotics as on a previous occasion �the intramuscular injection caused my other cat not to be able to walk properly for over a day and because it was far from clear after only a 24 hr or so illness that infection was evident. � Nonetheless �the vitamin injection seemed �also to be applied the painful intramuscular way �(large needle �into front shoulder area. �) � �The �cat screamed, and �when I got her home rapidly �developed �shaking and trembling and staggering about �and clingy. �After half an hour she was more competant on her feet and steadily ambled to the bedroom where �she jumpted onto the bed and curled up for a sleep. �I decided after some frantic �phone calls not to take her �back to the vet �(or �the other vets I use) and instead let her rest �and closely observe her. �In the evening she joined us in the living room and rested �quietly, then spent the night on my bed with me, as usual. I think that vet hates cats �and is disrespectful of dogs. �Other people have told me that he has been brutal towards �clients animals. �Thats another �story but I thought his injection came close to killing my cat and its only �since that trauma �that the tiny red blood �spots/mucus appeared in the litter tray On Wednesday morning she was keen to go out and more normal, �ate plenty etc. �But in the afternoon I noticed �that on the litter tray surface was some muvus �and blood �(the very tiniest amount. Probably not enough to paint a �fingernail. � And �about 3 �hours later I observed her do it again �This time a little bit of faeces in which was a tiny bit of blood and mucus. Then at bedtime she left �the bed used �the litter tray and �this morning I could another �small example. � So several hours seem to be between attempts to defecate This morning �(Thursday) � she has �gone out, �ate �etc �but I �think she is lethargic �and quiet �(as �throughout most of the last days) So it seemed to have started dramatically on Monday �and all her elimination until wednesday 5pm seemed just softer than normal, �now there are tiny bright red spots/flecks of blood I observe also a tendency to strain a bit �at the litterbox � �She has like a spasm does not cry out but it looks as though he colon thinks there is something ti eliminate but there isnt. So now �the dilemma. �A trip to the vets today ? � �A bright eyed otherwise lacklustre creature �that is eating.drinking and spending some time outside as well as not hiding away inside. �Should I rush to a vet ? � � It will involve a �real struggle to get her into the carrier � (can take 5 minutes �of fighting ) � �Or �shoukld I watch and wait for another �24/48 hours. She seemed keen for me to lie �down on the bed �and snuggle on my chest. Last night for 2 hours in mid �evening. �I think that might be that any soreness from colitus may be soothed by the warmth. �Like putting a hot �water bottle on the tummy when poorly Both my �cats are insured, and so cost is not an issue My reading indicates �the greatest liklihood �is �colitis, unlikely to be parasite related in the adult �cat. �More likely other causes./ I really wonder about that dead �bird. Any advice would be appreciated Its a bit odd that you have decided to take a sick cat to a vet who is conviently near to your house but has a bad reputation and doesnt even know how to properly dispense medications to animals. �Very odd especially since money is no object. �You'd better take that cat the best vet you can find. �We all know it is dangerous to allow our cats to go outside at will where there are all kinds of dangers lurking: virus, poison, larger carniverous animals, cruel people, fleas, poison, etc. �My cat came in from the cold, so to speak. �He was a stray and I dont have the heart to deny him his daily visits outside.. He insists on doing his business outside and rarely uses the litter box. �If your cat is suddenly started to use the litter box, please take the cat to a competent vet immediately. �You seem very fond of her and will be very unhappy when she dies. Thanks for the reply., � But I need to make some responses, Initially I should point out that the cat uses the litterbox sometimes anyway, and other times she goes �outside. � �I keep both my cats inside from dusk onwards and so the litterbox is always available to them. 1. �This cat was hardly "ill" �within the sense of needingto be taken to a vet �at all. �She had about a 24hr �bout of being out of sorts and with somewhat soft faeces./ �She had not been sick. � I was being vigilant even though the cat was at the time 50 to 70 per cent better. 2. �I did not �suit corners in the sense you think. � The vet has an asistant who almost always takes the cases. � That assistant �is clearly �competent and compassionate � �It was unusual that the principal �himself �saw my cat this time. � Additionally, that practice is convenient in that it is possible to arrange ones visit so that no other clients �are there �(with their barking dogs �etc) 3. � � My 2 �cats. �Both were rescued by me. �Neighbours �did not want �them,. failed to care for them properly etc. � �Like you I allow �them to maintain their outdoor lifestyle as the road here is very quiet (on a housing �estate) �and the gardens are very cat friendly. � �I agree �indoors only is the safest and kindest one �from the viewpoint of preventing physical suffering. � I think however that outdoor cats should continue to be allowed that freedom except in such cases as where there is a substantial risk of harm such as from a main road etc. Thanks �for the reply- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thank you for the reply. Today its a bit late to arrange it but on the positive front. At the time of writing I can confirm the cat is sleeping cozily on the settee, she has eaten, and spent 2 hours outside. During the night (and since she has been inside today for 6 hours now) nothing has been defacated. Additionally, she lies comfortably and does not hunch or flinch when handled. She looks quite calm ar the moment, and I will not hesitate to act swiftly should anything change this evening. If you recall, my post described a very traumatic vets trip on tuesday. Only since then was any blood noted and you might discover when reading that stressful events can themselves cause such disruption to the colon mucosa. In this case that mucosa was probably already inflamed as the history suggests. Now, does anyone really want me to whip my cat from the settee on the basis of a so far entirely isolated and potentially explained spot (for thats what it was) of blood. To fight to get into the carrier and then have it waiting at a vets with lots of dogs barking for perhaps up to half an hour ? I think a isolated case of a few tiny specks of bright red blood ( less than 0.2 cm in diameter at most against the history of an acute bowel upset are not so serious as obviously ... read more » Friday morning Now. After a nice quiet night with no visits to the litter tray she woke up and joined me for a half hour snuggle, then she stretched and went for some food and later water, then seemed prepared to engage in a short but most vigorous play this week, more like normal. Now she has gone outside with, I noticed, more of a spring in her step. So, whatever troubled her digestion has now not produced any "output" for 22 hours (the time since she was last outside. Presumably, thats progress as Mon Tu Weds it was 3 to 5 times per 24 hours. |
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