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Tristan Miller February 2nd 04 08:03 PM

How much space for a cat?
 
Greetings.

I am considering getting a kitten to keep my little ferret company while I'm
at work. From what I read, cats and ferrets usually get along just fine
provided that they're introduced at an early age. My only concern is that
my apartment might be too small. I have only one largeish room with a
small kitchen and bathroom -- the total area is 40 m². Will a small cat be
happy with this or do I need to think about getting a bigger place? I
intend to keep the pet as an indoor cat only. (Of course, I don't mind
taking it for walks every day should it be one of those rare individuals
who take to walking with leashes.)

Also, how much attention will I need to give the cat? I play with my ferret
for at least a couple hours a day (any less and she sometimes keeps me up
at night), so I'm hoping I can combine playtime.

Regards,
Tristan

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Bob Brenchley. February 2nd 04 08:30 PM

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:03:45 +0100, Tristan Miller
wrote:

Greetings.

I am considering getting a kitten to keep my little ferret company while I'm
at work. From what I read, cats and ferrets usually get along just fine
provided that they're introduced at an early age. My only concern is that
my apartment might be too small. I have only one largeish room with a
small kitchen and bathroom -- the total area is 40 m². Will a small cat be
happy with this or do I need to think about getting a bigger place? I
intend to keep the pet as an indoor cat only. (Of course, I don't mind
taking it for walks every day should it be one of those rare individuals
who take to walking with leashes.)

Also, how much attention will I need to give the cat? I play with my ferret
for at least a couple hours a day (any less and she sometimes keeps me up
at night), so I'm hoping I can combine playtime.

Regards,
Tristan


Cats do not make suitable apartment pets. Then need access to the
outside world.

And cats dictate the level of attention, not their human slaves :)

--
Bob.

When the cat's away there are fewer hairs on the armchair.

Bob Brenchley. February 2nd 04 08:30 PM

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:03:45 +0100, Tristan Miller
wrote:

Greetings.

I am considering getting a kitten to keep my little ferret company while I'm
at work. From what I read, cats and ferrets usually get along just fine
provided that they're introduced at an early age. My only concern is that
my apartment might be too small. I have only one largeish room with a
small kitchen and bathroom -- the total area is 40 m². Will a small cat be
happy with this or do I need to think about getting a bigger place? I
intend to keep the pet as an indoor cat only. (Of course, I don't mind
taking it for walks every day should it be one of those rare individuals
who take to walking with leashes.)

Also, how much attention will I need to give the cat? I play with my ferret
for at least a couple hours a day (any less and she sometimes keeps me up
at night), so I'm hoping I can combine playtime.

Regards,
Tristan


Cats do not make suitable apartment pets. Then need access to the
outside world.

And cats dictate the level of attention, not their human slaves :)

--
Bob.

When the cat's away there are fewer hairs on the armchair.

Ted Davis February 2nd 04 10:36 PM

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:03:45 +0100, Tristan Miller
wrote:

Greetings.

I am considering getting a kitten to keep my little ferret company while I'm
at work. From what I read, cats and ferrets usually get along just fine
provided that they're introduced at an early age. My only concern is that
my apartment might be too small. I have only one largeish room with a
small kitchen and bathroom -- the total area is 40 m². Will a small cat be
happy with this or do I need to think about getting a bigger place? I
intend to keep the pet as an indoor cat only. (Of course, I don't mind
taking it for walks every day should it be one of those rare individuals
who take to walking with leashes.)

Also, how much attention will I need to give the cat? I play with my ferret
for at least a couple hours a day (any less and she sometimes keeps me up
at night), so I'm hoping I can combine playtime.


On average, if you believe anything BB tells you, you will go wrong -
ignore him as most of the rest of us do.

Cats will generally adapt to whatever space they have, but the less
space, the more effort required to make sure they get enough exercise.
Indoor cats also benefit from being given coarse grasses to nibble on
- wheat, oats, or even popcorn sprouts. You will also need climbing
and clawing things.

I've seen as many as fifteen cats in about the same area as you have,
but the place stank. The cats were happy enough.

I have about a dozen in little over twice that space, but they know
they can go out any time they want, they just mostly don't want to in
cold and wet weather.



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Ted Davis February 2nd 04 10:36 PM

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:03:45 +0100, Tristan Miller
wrote:

Greetings.

I am considering getting a kitten to keep my little ferret company while I'm
at work. From what I read, cats and ferrets usually get along just fine
provided that they're introduced at an early age. My only concern is that
my apartment might be too small. I have only one largeish room with a
small kitchen and bathroom -- the total area is 40 m². Will a small cat be
happy with this or do I need to think about getting a bigger place? I
intend to keep the pet as an indoor cat only. (Of course, I don't mind
taking it for walks every day should it be one of those rare individuals
who take to walking with leashes.)

Also, how much attention will I need to give the cat? I play with my ferret
for at least a couple hours a day (any less and she sometimes keeps me up
at night), so I'm hoping I can combine playtime.


On average, if you believe anything BB tells you, you will go wrong -
ignore him as most of the rest of us do.

Cats will generally adapt to whatever space they have, but the less
space, the more effort required to make sure they get enough exercise.
Indoor cats also benefit from being given coarse grasses to nibble on
- wheat, oats, or even popcorn sprouts. You will also need climbing
and clawing things.

I've seen as many as fifteen cats in about the same area as you have,
but the place stank. The cats were happy enough.

I have about a dozen in little over twice that space, but they know
they can go out any time they want, they just mostly don't want to in
cold and wet weather.



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Bob Brenchley. February 3rd 04 05:01 PM

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 15:36:42 -0600, Ted Davis
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:03:45 +0100, Tristan Miller
wrote:

Greetings.

I am considering getting a kitten to keep my little ferret company while I'm
at work. From what I read, cats and ferrets usually get along just fine
provided that they're introduced at an early age. My only concern is that
my apartment might be too small. I have only one largeish room with a
small kitchen and bathroom -- the total area is 40 m². Will a small cat be
happy with this or do I need to think about getting a bigger place? I
intend to keep the pet as an indoor cat only. (Of course, I don't mind
taking it for walks every day should it be one of those rare individuals
who take to walking with leashes.)

Also, how much attention will I need to give the cat? I play with my ferret
for at least a couple hours a day (any less and she sometimes keeps me up
at night), so I'm hoping I can combine playtime.


On average, if you believe anything BB tells you, you will go wrong -
ignore him as most of the rest of us do.


Stupid Troll!

Cats will generally adapt to whatever space they have, but the less
space, the more effort required to make sure they get enough exercise.
Indoor cats also benefit from being given coarse grasses to nibble on
- wheat, oats, or even popcorn sprouts. You will also need climbing
and clawing things.

I've seen as many as fifteen cats in about the same area as you have,
but the place stank. The cats were happy enough.

I have about a dozen in little over twice that space, but they know
they can go out any time they want, they just mostly don't want to in
cold and wet weather.


If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.



T.E.D. )
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--
Bob.

You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full
of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the
clue mating dance.

Bob Brenchley. February 3rd 04 05:01 PM

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 15:36:42 -0600, Ted Davis
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:03:45 +0100, Tristan Miller
wrote:

Greetings.

I am considering getting a kitten to keep my little ferret company while I'm
at work. From what I read, cats and ferrets usually get along just fine
provided that they're introduced at an early age. My only concern is that
my apartment might be too small. I have only one largeish room with a
small kitchen and bathroom -- the total area is 40 m². Will a small cat be
happy with this or do I need to think about getting a bigger place? I
intend to keep the pet as an indoor cat only. (Of course, I don't mind
taking it for walks every day should it be one of those rare individuals
who take to walking with leashes.)

Also, how much attention will I need to give the cat? I play with my ferret
for at least a couple hours a day (any less and she sometimes keeps me up
at night), so I'm hoping I can combine playtime.


On average, if you believe anything BB tells you, you will go wrong -
ignore him as most of the rest of us do.


Stupid Troll!

Cats will generally adapt to whatever space they have, but the less
space, the more effort required to make sure they get enough exercise.
Indoor cats also benefit from being given coarse grasses to nibble on
- wheat, oats, or even popcorn sprouts. You will also need climbing
and clawing things.

I've seen as many as fifteen cats in about the same area as you have,
but the place stank. The cats were happy enough.

I have about a dozen in little over twice that space, but they know
they can go out any time they want, they just mostly don't want to in
cold and wet weather.


If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.



T.E.D. )
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--
Bob.

You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full
of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the
clue mating dance.

Tristan Miller February 3rd 04 06:32 PM

Greetings.

In article , Bob Brenchley.
wrote:
If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.


My grandparents' cat is indoor only, and to me it doesn't seem any more or
less happy than any outdoor cat I've come across. I know for a fact it's
more physically healthy than many outdoor cats I know, since it has no
opportunity to be mauled by a stranger.

Anyway, as I said, I fully intend to take the cat for walks every day
provided it's willing and can learn to walk with a leash.

Regards,
Tristan

--
_
_V.-o Tristan Miller [en,(fr,de,ia)] Space is limited
/ |`-' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In a haiku, so it's hard
(7_\\ http://www.nothingisreal.com/ To finish what you

Tristan Miller February 3rd 04 06:32 PM

Greetings.

In article , Bob Brenchley.
wrote:
If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.


My grandparents' cat is indoor only, and to me it doesn't seem any more or
less happy than any outdoor cat I've come across. I know for a fact it's
more physically healthy than many outdoor cats I know, since it has no
opportunity to be mauled by a stranger.

Anyway, as I said, I fully intend to take the cat for walks every day
provided it's willing and can learn to walk with a leash.

Regards,
Tristan

--
_
_V.-o Tristan Miller [en,(fr,de,ia)] Space is limited
/ |`-' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In a haiku, so it's hard
(7_\\ http://www.nothingisreal.com/ To finish what you

Gee February 5th 04 04:18 AM


"Tristan Miller" wrote in message

My grandparents' cat is indoor only, and to me it doesn't seem any more or
less happy than any outdoor cat I've come across. I know for a fact it's
more physically healthy than many outdoor cats I know, since it has no
opportunity to be mauled by a stranger.


Or by car/poison/fox/dog/desease/.

Here is a lot of info about Indoor cats and why do it indoor way, excellent
site: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/P...2/indoors.html

I learned far too late and in the worse possible way that cats should be
kept indoors, and only after my beloved QT got run over. My other 4 are now
living a very happy indoor life and like yours will, go out only on a safe
leash and cat harness. And even though I let them stay outside as long as
they want, they usually want back in only 15 min to 1/2 hr on nicer days.
They definitly prefer things I have done for them inside, like a tall cat
tree, cat bedroom on top of the cupboard, cat stairs on the walls, another
bad on another cupboard, delicious food, lots of toys and attention, and
above all my love.

Living in a flat is absolutely fine for a cat or two or three or four. Think
up not just sideways :) Cats would live on the ceiling if they could. Check
out this: http://www.thecatshouse.com/ about an amazing couple who love
their 9 cats so much they have redecorated the house to suit the cats. It is
so amazing what they;ve done that their book about it is regularely sold
out. Check it here, there are some pic of the house as well
http://www.thecatshouse.com/books/bk_01.htm or on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

Anyway, as I said, I fully intend to take the cat for walks every day
provided it's willing and can learn to walk with a leash.


Came across this, about training the cat to walk on leash:
http://cats.about.com/library/howto/htwalkleash.htm

Gee




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