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CatNipped[_5_] July 1st 11 11:07 PM

OT - Fireworks?
 
All sales on fireworks have been banned this year in and around Houston.
The chance of more wild fires and the danger to homes is too great to risk
even a "sparkler" to ignite the draught ravaged foliage. That's perfectly
understandable to me - why take the chance of some [email protected] setting the city
on fire.

However, they're still planning a "Freedom Celebration" in Houston and some
surrounding cities. Huh? Are their fireworks somehow different from
privately owned fireworks? Are the parks and other places they're planned
somehow spared from the draught? There is still a big "debate" about this
going on, but as of right now, the celebrations are going to go ahead as
planned.

What do you think? Should city-run fireworks be banned also, or allowed?

--
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CatNipped
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Joy July 1st 11 11:25 PM

OT - Fireworks?
 
"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
All sales on fireworks have been banned this year in and around Houston.
The chance of more wild fires and the danger to homes is too great to risk
even a "sparkler" to ignite the draught ravaged foliage. That's perfectly
understandable to me - why take the chance of some [email protected] setting the
city on fire.

However, they're still planning a "Freedom Celebration" in Houston and
some surrounding cities. Huh? Are their fireworks somehow different from
privately owned fireworks? Are the parks and other places they're planned
somehow spared from the draught? There is still a big "debate" about this
going on, but as of right now, the celebrations are going to go ahead as
planned.

What do you think? Should city-run fireworks be banned also, or allowed?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped


That's been the case in Southern California for years. Most cities ban
personal fireworks, but have fireworks shows. There is much less danger of
a well orchestrated fireworks show causing a fire than there is when
individuals shoot them off in the streets or their backyards. I've never
heard of a fire caused by a fireworks show. I have heard of many house
fires and bush fires started by use of illegal fireworks.

Joy



J J Levin July 1st 11 11:29 PM

OT - Fireworks?
 

"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
All sales on fireworks have been banned this year in and around Houston.
The chance of more wild fires and the danger to homes is too great to risk
even a "sparkler" to ignite the draught ravaged foliage. That's perfectly
understandable to me - why take the chance of some [email protected] setting the
city on fire.

However, they're still planning a "Freedom Celebration" in Houston and
some surrounding cities. Huh? Are their fireworks somehow different from
privately owned fireworks? Are the parks and other places they're planned
somehow spared from the draught? There is still a big "debate" about this
going on, but as of right now, the celebrations are going to go ahead as
planned.

What do you think? Should city-run fireworks be banned also, or allowed?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped



Banned. Totally. Texas does not need more fires, even tiny ones, in this
difficult year. I've seen the horrible news photos.

Also, since this is a cat group, I read somewhere that cats are notoriously
frightened by fireworks, both by the lights and by the noises. Not that any
cat lover would think of placing a cat in such a scary setting. I assume
this is true?

Jay



[email protected] July 1st 11 11:46 PM

OT - Fireworks?
 
J J Levin wrote:

Banned. Totally. Texas does not need more fires, even tiny ones, in this
difficult year. I've seen the horrible news photos.


Also, since this is a cat group, I read somewhere that cats are notoriously
frightened by fireworks, both by the lights and by the noises. Not that any
cat lover would think of placing a cat in such a scary setting. I assume
this is true?


I've been with friends and their *dogs* at fireworks times and the poor
things were cowering under beds or desks, etc. One of my friends always
used to take her dogs to a place out of town every July 4, that wasn't
near any fireworks, just so they wouldn't have to go through that. But my
cats are pretty much oblivious to firecrackers and big fireworks booms.
Maybe an occasional ear twitch after a particularly loud sound, but that's
about it. Then, back to sleep.

Joyce

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CatNipped[_5_] July 1st 11 11:46 PM

OT - Fireworks?
 
We don't open our curtains after dark, so my cats have never seen fireworks,
but they don't appear to be bothered by the noises (thank goodness since our
idiot neighbors spend thousands of dollars in fireworks at least twice a
year).

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
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"J J Levin" wrote in message
...

"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
All sales on fireworks have been banned this year in and around Houston.
The chance of more wild fires and the danger to homes is too great to
risk even a "sparkler" to ignite the draught ravaged foliage. That's
perfectly understandable to me - why take the chance of some [email protected]
setting the city on fire.

However, they're still planning a "Freedom Celebration" in Houston and
some surrounding cities. Huh? Are their fireworks somehow different
from privately owned fireworks? Are the parks and other places they're
planned somehow spared from the draught? There is still a big "debate"
about this going on, but as of right now, the celebrations are going to
go ahead as planned.

What do you think? Should city-run fireworks be banned also, or allowed?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped



Banned. Totally. Texas does not need more fires, even tiny ones, in this
difficult year. I've seen the horrible news photos.

Also, since this is a cat group, I read somewhere that cats are
notoriously frightened by fireworks, both by the lights and by the noises.
Not that any cat lover would think of placing a cat in such a scary
setting. I assume this is true?

Jay





hopitus[_2_] July 2nd 11 12:09 AM

OT - Fireworks?
 
On Jul 1, 4:07*pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
All sales on fireworks have been banned this year in and around Houston.
The chance of more wild fires and the danger to homes is too great to risk
even a "sparkler" to ignite the draught ravaged foliage. *That's perfectly
understandable to me - why take the chance of some [email protected] setting the city
on fire.

However, they're still planning a "Freedom Celebration" in Houston and some
surrounding cities. *Huh? *Are their fireworks somehow different from
privately owned fireworks? *Are the parks and other places they're planned
somehow spared from the draught? *There is still a big "debate" about this
going on, but as of right now, the celebrations are going to go ahead as
planned.
What do you think? *Should city-run fireworks be banned also, or allowed?
CatNipped

Your questions: 1.Yes they're different, LOL.
2. No, but city and county parks are usually regularly *watered* and
maintained
by their municipalities so yes, they are not as tinderbox dry.
3. Municipalities fireworks displays (we have a lot here as personal
fireworks either
possession or display will land you in the slammer with a huge fine)
are coordinated
(the beautiful displays combined with appropriate musical tributes)
and carried out
by *professinals* who do not, like the natives, blow off their
extremities with foolish
Duh actions while celebrating (with and without alcohol intake).
I used to be a rabid fireworks participant as laws in south FL are lax
and rarely enforced
for private detonating. I would spend two hundred bucks on the 4th and
New Years (I was
working then). My kids loved the "ground crawlers": the "tank", the
"spider", etc. much
more than what I liked: two stage mortar (that'll blow your head off)
and bottle rockets.
Get out and take in your nearest municipal display Monday: you won't
be disappointed.


CatNipped[_5_] July 2nd 11 12:21 AM

OT - Fireworks?
 
Our municipal parks have *not* been watered - the city cut back on such
"luxuries" months ago before asking residents to voluntarily stop watering
lawns. The draught here is *serious* and we've been almost completely
surrounded by wild fires for weeks now.

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
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See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at:
http://www.professional-geek.net/rpcablog/

Email: L(dot)T(dot)Crews(at)comcast(dot)net


"hopitus" wrote in message
...
On Jul 1, 4:07 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
All sales on fireworks have been banned this year in and around Houston.
The chance of more wild fires and the danger to homes is too great to risk
even a "sparkler" to ignite the draught ravaged foliage. That's perfectly
understandable to me - why take the chance of some [email protected] setting the
city
on fire.

However, they're still planning a "Freedom Celebration" in Houston and
some
surrounding cities. Huh? Are their fireworks somehow different from
privately owned fireworks? Are the parks and other places they're planned
somehow spared from the draught? There is still a big "debate" about this
going on, but as of right now, the celebrations are going to go ahead as
planned.
What do you think? Should city-run fireworks be banned also, or allowed?
CatNipped

Your questions: 1.Yes they're different, LOL.
2. No, but city and county parks are usually regularly *watered* and
maintained
by their municipalities so yes, they are not as tinderbox dry.
3. Municipalities fireworks displays (we have a lot here as personal
fireworks either
possession or display will land you in the slammer with a huge fine)
are coordinated
(the beautiful displays combined with appropriate musical tributes)
and carried out
by *professinals* who do not, like the natives, blow off their
extremities with foolish
Duh actions while celebrating (with and without alcohol intake).
I used to be a rabid fireworks participant as laws in south FL are lax
and rarely enforced
for private detonating. I would spend two hundred bucks on the 4th and
New Years (I was
working then). My kids loved the "ground crawlers": the "tank", the
"spider", etc. much
more than what I liked: two stage mortar (that'll blow your head off)
and bottle rockets.
Get out and take in your nearest municipal display Monday: you won't
be disappointed.



Lesley[_4_] July 2nd 11 02:42 PM

OT - Fireworks?
 
On Jul 1, 3:07*pm, "CatNipped" wrote:


What do you think? *Should city-run fireworks be banned also, or allowed?


In the UK in my time (centuries) things have changed a lot on the
fireworks front. When I was a kid city run displays were rare and
most people had a bonfire etc in their back gardens on November the
5th. Even "organised" displays were quite amateur like the one in a
local church that let my youngest brother who was about 6 at the time
light Roman candles (he wondered what would happen if he put a lit
one on it's side and caused a mass panic). As kids we'd save our
pocket money for weeks and the local sweetshop would sell them...yes
they'd quite happily hand over what amounts to an incidenary device
(and we all susbscribed to the belief that the brighter and/or louder
it went BANG the better it was) to small children. We all used to
lust after the big boxes of them and hope our parents really loved us
enough for the "Standard Fireworks Big Party Box"! (and yes, they did
pack fireworks in cardboard boxes! Dad used to have an old biscuit
tin in the shed and all fireworks went in there and he was very
careful that the lid only came off to take them out and went straifght
back on- none of you will be suprised that every October there were
masses of public service annoucements showing burn victims to remind
us to be careful)

I'm getting a bad case of nostalgia here.....the morning after the air
reeked of fireworks and us kids would go round hunting for the empty
cases to see who could find the most... but apart from November the
5th no-one ever lit fireworks.

These days very few people hold Bonfire Night parties in their gardens
but there are loads of big council run displays. A kid could not
purchase a firework and anyway only a few specialist shops stock them
they aren't displayed in a glass cabinet next to the sweets any,more.
However they are now lit more often than once a year- we used to have
near neighbours (down the short side street next to the house) who set
them off on every possible occasion- New Year 2004 was like living in
a war zone- our New Year's Eve party for a couple of years went
outside about 5 to midnight and stood on the corner watching their
display (And it was quite spectaculary garish!). The first year
Dunzi (RB- God that hurts!) and Sarsi seemed fascinated and watched
them out the window but they didn't bother after that

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furball

Sherry July 2nd 11 03:37 PM

OT - Fireworks?
 
On Jul 1, 5:07*pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
All sales on fireworks have been banned this year in and around Houston.
The chance of more wild fires and the danger to homes is too great to risk
even a "sparkler" to ignite the draught ravaged foliage. *That's perfectly
understandable to me - why take the chance of some [email protected] setting the city
on fire.

However, they're still planning a "Freedom Celebration" in Houston and some
surrounding cities. *Huh? *Are their fireworks somehow different from
privately owned fireworks? *Are the parks and other places they're planned
somehow spared from the draught? *There is still a big "debate" about this
going on, but as of right now, the celebrations are going to go ahead as
planned.

What do you think? *Should city-run fireworks be banned also, or allowed?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped


I'm no expert by any means, but it looks to me like the professional
fireworks
displays go so high in the air that embers really don't reach the
ground. And
for any ground effects they do, they'll have firefighters present
"just in case."
Hopefully they'll mow and further prep the area too. I don't really
like fireworks
in any shape or form, but for the kids it's like banning Christmas.
They so
look forward to it.
Our state/county in all its wisdom passed a ban on the *use* of
individual
fireworks. You can still sell them, and buy them, but you can't pop
them.
Dumb.
Like I said, I hate fireworks even under wet conditions. They scare
the
cats and upset the livestock. If any of my neighbors do it, I totally
plan
on ratting them out. There's a hundred acres of waist-high dead
prairie grass
between us and them. Way too dangerous.
Sherry

J J Levin July 2nd 11 04:01 PM

OT - Fireworks?
 
"Sherry" wrote in message
...
On Jul 1, 5:07 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
All sales on fireworks have been banned this year in and around Houston.
The chance of more wild fires and the danger to homes is too great to risk
even a "sparkler" to ignite the draught ravaged foliage. That's perfectly
understandable to me - why take the chance of some [email protected] setting the
city
on fire.

However, they're still planning a "Freedom Celebration" in Houston and
some
surrounding cities. Huh? Are their fireworks somehow different from
privately owned fireworks? Are the parks and other places they're planned
somehow spared from the draught? There is still a big "debate" about this
going on, but as of right now, the celebrations are going to go ahead as
planned.

What do you think? Should city-run fireworks be banned also, or allowed?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped


I'm no expert by any means, but it looks to me like the professional
fireworks
displays go so high in the air that embers really don't reach the
ground. And
for any ground effects they do, they'll have firefighters present
"just in case."
Hopefully they'll mow and further prep the area too. I don't really
like fireworks
in any shape or form, but for the kids it's like banning Christmas.
They so
look forward to it.
Our state/county in all its wisdom passed a ban on the *use* of
individual
fireworks. You can still sell them, and buy them, but you can't pop
them.
Dumb.
Like I said, I hate fireworks even under wet conditions. They scare
the
cats and upset the livestock. If any of my neighbors do it, I totally
plan
on ratting them out. There's a hundred acres of waist-high dead
prairie grass
between us and them. Way too dangerous.
Sherry



I live in Northern NJ. There are organized fireworks on the 4th, but the NY
Police Commissioner was just on the radio, warning NY residents not to drive
to Pennsylvania to buy fireworks. Private fireworks are illegal in NY, and
he specifically said that people who cross the border to buy illegal
fireworks will be arrested and their cars will confiscated (as they do in
drug cases).

Jay




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