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Old November 1st 12, 12:09 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.misc,rec.pets.cats.rescue,alt.pets.cats,rec.gardens,
Bill Graham
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Rick wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:41:59 -0700, "Bill Graham"

Rick wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:54:21 -0700, "David E. Ross"

On 10/27/12 5:40 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
Bob F wrote:
dgk wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:59:00 -0400, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1

Gas Bag wrote:

She wants to stop her cats getting out, and other cats getting
in. To any cat "lovers" out there, my friend isn't getting rid
of her cats, nor is she trapping/baiting any of the cats in
her suburb.

Anyone who cares about their cats doesn't let them out.

Like most absolute statements, that's nonsense. Cats enjoy being
outdoors and if we really care about our cats we want them to be
happy. Safe counts but so does happy.

And neighbor's love cat poop in their spinach.

Spinach gets lots of poop on it, from birds and other animals. If
you grow veggies, you better wash them before you eat them. Cats
are naturally wild animals. Like Elsa. they were "born free".
Keeping them inside is like keeping a bird in a cage. It keeps
them alive, but what is their quality of life? For me, quality
beats quantity in almost evry case.

The quality of my own life depends on not having new plants dug up
by a cat for a toilet because it found the soil there soft and
easily dug.

Cats aren't too big a problem in my garden, but a group of feral
cats has really played Hobb with the wild turkey population on one
of the tracts. Coyotes seem to keep them thinned in the warmer
months and I suspect winter is hard on them as they don't seem to
migrate. I hope they all succumb this year so I don't have to try
and deal with it.

The wild turkeys around here are much too large to interest any
house cat. Also, I have never seen a house cat team up with another
house cat to accomplish anything. Cats are the ultimate loners and
don't, "team up" I also will take this opportunity to suggest that
anyone who grows anything outside has to worry about bird poop as
well as a myriad of other harmful insects and animals, and shouled
wash all his veggies thouroughly before eating them. It doesn't
matter whether he is washing off cat or bird poop, as long as he
washes it off, and ( preferably) cooks everything before eating it.

I hope I'm not out of line here and that you've had the talk with your
dad- All big turkeys come from little turkeys and little turkeys come
from eggs that are laid in nests on the ground. The added pedators
seem to have overwhelmed the local turkeys. The adults are fine. I
have barn cats that do good work for me, but they can't breed and
don't hang out in the woods killing anything that moves for the fun of
it; which is the nature of domestic cats.

I had one that didn't kill his toys... He just brought them in the house and
let them go, so he could play with them. We had a chipmonk living in our
kitchen, under the stove, for about two months last Winter. My wife left
squirrel food out for it and water... I thought it was going to be a
permanent pet, but as soon as Spring rolled around, I left the sliding glass
door open a few inches and it escaped back outside. I don't know how my cat
caught it to begin with. Chipmonks are as fast as anything I have ever seen.
This one would run across the kitchen floor so fast you couldn't see it even
if you were looking at it.....