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Old August 26th 12, 04:20 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.misc,rec.pets.cats.rescue,alt.pets.cats,rec.gardens,misc.consumers.house
Julie Bove[_2_]
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:10:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:


"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Billy wrote:
In article ,
dgk wrote:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:12:52 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

dgk wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 17:27:30 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

Brooklyn1 wrote:
dgk wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:
Gas Bag wrote:

She wants to stop her cats getting out, and other cats
getting in. To any cat "lovers" out there, my friend isn't
getting rid of her cats, nor is she trapping/baiting any
of the cats in her suburb.

Anyone who cares about their cats doesn't let them out.

Like most absolute statements, that's nonsense. Cats enjoy
being outdoors and if we really care about our cats we want
them to be happy. Safe counts but so does happy.

What good is a "happy" cat flattened with tire tread
impressions... cats are happy indoors... you're an imbecile.

Everyone, and everything, dies., What's important is enjoying
what little time you have. This is true for me, and also true
for my cats. Only a stupid liberal would trade freedom for a
longer life, and then have the gall to impose their poor
choice on the rest of the world......

Hey, I'm a liberal and I let my cats out.

Well, perhaps you are the exception... Most of the liberals I
know have the following attitude: I wouldn't do it, and if I
wouldn't do it, then nobody should do it, so we should make a
law that forbids anyone from doing it.

I don't think that has even a hint of truth to it though. Most
liberals I know want people to do what they want. Get married to
someone of the same sex? Fine by me. Get a tattoo, it's your body.
You want to smoke pot? No problem to me. In fact, if you want to
use cocaine and you're an adult, fine by me. Just collect some
tax on it.

No, most liberals are pretty libertarian. But there are limits and
problems once things affect someone else. I prefer government to
control those things rather than corporate power. And I see the
attack on government as increasing corporate power.

Well, what do you think about the following: The government
socializes medicine, and makes laws forcing hospitals to take care
of anyone whether they are insured or not. - Then after a while,
they say, "Since we are giving medical care at the taxpayer's
expense to all who need it, we insist that you don't enguage in any
activities that are dangerous to your health, such as driving
without a seat belt, riding your cycle without a helmit, or
smoking/eating the wrong foods that may incur health problems that
we will have to take care of." IOW, they first socialize something,
and then use their socialization as an excuse to control it.
Suppose, for example they were to finance eternary clinics with the
taxpayers money. Then, after letting that saettle in for a while,
they say, "You may no longer let your cats roam free, because they
may become injured by the dangers of freedom and this will impoact
the tax funds. Therefore we are drafting a law that demands that
everyone keep their cats locked up at all times."

I think that if you could poll people on this, all the one3s who
agreed with such a law would be liberals. (At least, that's where
my money would go.)


I am against socialized medicine because I know people who live in
countries that have it and I do not think and they do not think they
are getting good care. Yes, some have no problems. But I have one
friend who has had such problems that she could write a novel on it.
Of course one doesn't have to have socialized medicine to have
problems. I have had enough here in the USA.

My same friend who has the medical problems lives in a rural area
and there is no other house for miles around. She lets her cats and
her dog run free. The only car they might get hit by is by her, her
mom or a visitor. But there are wild animals out there.

So if you're going to let your cat run free and it gets hit by a car
or killed or injured by some other cat who is also running free or
some wild animal... I just don't want to hear about it!

It would be a different story if a house cat got loose and out of
the house on its own. I do know this happens. But for a person to
let it out loose? And then come whining to me because it was
flattened by a car? Or eaten by a coyote? And yeah, that has
happened. That then is your own fault, IMO.



Those are the same imbeciles who let their four year old play in the
road.


That's true.