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Old July 1st 11, 02:31 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,rec.pets.cats.community,rec.pets.dogs.health,uk.business.agriculture,sci.agriculture
George Plimpton
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On 6/30/2011 5:26 PM, tidbit wrote:
On 01/07/2011 00:14, George Plimpton wrote:
On 6/30/2011 3:36 PM, tidbit wrote:
On 30/06/2011 22:56, dh@. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:57:18 +0100, wrote:

On 29/06/2011 23:33, dh@. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 00:52:51 +0100, wrote:

On 28/06/2011 21:21, Goo wrote:

I did not benefit by being born. Once I *was* born, I was in a
position
to receive benefits, but being born itself was not a benefit.

Thank you for giving me your time to explain so clearly my
mistake. We
can only set the peg back to the instant where we were conceived.
Obviously, before that moment, we did not exist and could not
receive
anything.

Yet you clearly appear to be benefitting from your existence whether
the
conception of your zygote was a benefit to you or not.

I do benefit from my existence

That's only true if you would benefit just as well if you did not
exist.

What on earth *are* you getting at? Why do you talk such nonsense when
you *must* surely understand by now after 12 years how only living
experiential things can receive a benefit?

from the advantages I was given while
growing up.

You benefitted from your existence then too, even if it makes you
uncomfortable for some odd reason, and even if your zygote didn't
litterally
benefit from the act of conception. LOL...would you feel comfortable
explaining
to people that you don't believe you benefit from your existence
because you
don't believe your zygote benefitted from the act of its own
conception?

A zygote can't benefit by starting to exist either. It has to exist
before it can receive a benefit.


Zygotes can't benefit at all, even when they exist, because they do not
have an experiential existence. It has no nervous system, no brain, no
welfare - no means of experiencing anything.

How very true. I'm trying not to trip myself up, so I'm grateful for
your help while I learn how the terms are being defined here. A stuffy
nose is something without an experiential welfare but it could be said
to benefit from some cool fresh air. A heart benefits from regular
exercise - that sort of thing. I'll be careful.

Tidbit, it is anyone's guess where ****wit even learned the word zygote,
but apart maybe from looking it up in Wikipedia, he has no idea what one
is, nor what its attributes are. He never took even a high school
biology course, and he has no formal education beyond high school. In
high school, he took vocational courses, not a university preparatory
curriculum.


Well I can't rubbish him for not going to uni because neither did I.


I'm not criticizing anyone for not going to university; I am just
pointing out that when he starts blabbering about scientific terms, he
hasn't learned them in a supervised academic setting.