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Old March 24th 06, 07:07 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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On 2006-03-23, Christina Websell penned:


You are not a "cat-starver." There was food there if Oscar had
deigned to eat it. My cats have tried to play this one on me and I
have called their bluff. If they turn their nose up because "we
don't want the lamb flavour today" it's removed. There is nothing
until the next meal (2x/day) It's surprising how they have suddenly
decided they like what I give them. I do not play the food game
with them any more when I used to try and find more yummy food that
they might like better. They eat what I provide or go without. It
works.


Yes, but your cats do have the option to hunt for themselves (well,
Boyfie might hunt for KFC, lately, it sounds like).


Well, yes, that is true although I didn't notice more than the normal amount
of hunting going on during the time I was calling their bluff over their
pickiness.
Kitty would always prefer to eat collared doves over any cat food, anyway
but Boyfie rarely eats anything himself that he catches, he brings in into
the kitchen and leaves it for KFC. Two young rats this week that she
apparently did not fancy and which I stepped on first thing in the
morning...

If I fed Oscar
food that was somehow contaminated, she would have no options.


Do you suspect that this food might have been contaminated in any way?


Also, how long did it take for them to break down and eat the food you
provided?


To eat everything I provided, with gusto, about 10 days. They didn't starve
in the meantime, they did pick at the food and it was there for several
hours after each mealtime.
I don't mind at all if they take several hours to eat their meal, I think
this is normal for a cat, but mine were beginning to take the p, forcing me,
almost, to get really expensive stuff all the time and continually changing
their minds over what was the favourite of the day.
It's a pity really as I was shopping today and saw a tin of pink salmon for
32p. I wanted to get it to treat them, but treating them was how this whole
food game started, so I didn't.

Oscar got noticably skinnier; enough so that I could feel
her hip bones and her backbone was more prominent to the touch than I
would like. True, she was behaving normally, so it probably isn't as
bad as it sounds ... but still scary. It honestly seemed like she
would rather starve than eat that food. We went through most of a
case (20? 24? cans) of this flavor before I caved.


I can't imagine that a cat would allow itself to starve when food (even if
of the not-preferred flavour) was available. This would be the ultimate in
manipulative behaviour ;-)
Maybe there was something wrong with the food.

Fortunately, I can go back to the pet store and trade the unused cans
for a flavor she will like.


Good.

DH also says that if she's really hungry, she'll eat. But she got
skinny enough that I was afraid to call her bluff.


He's right, she will, but unless you can rule out for definite that the food
was bad you have done the right thing to get her something else.
I don't buy cases of food any more, just in case of this very thing.

Tweed



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Old March 24th 06, 08:25 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 2006-03-23, Pat penned:


Again, I don't think you need to worry about rice, as they probably
use whole grain which is not nearly as dangerous, carb-wise, as
white rice.


Yeah, it's not the worst, just something I'd prefer to avoid.

Hey, we all make silly mistakes. Try pleasing seven kitties with one
type of food! But they eventually adapt and eat whatever is served.
The only thing that absolutely won't get touched around here is any
of the cheap, off-brand stuff, even if it came from a can.


Yeah, I don't know how you handle 7 cats! One is enough to tie me in
knots.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca
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Old March 24th 06, 08:26 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 2006-03-24, Sam penned:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:

Sigh. Monique, cat-starver =/

Aw, you're not a cat-starver. She just changed her mind about what
she wanted and didn't mind-meld to you about it. She'll be fine.


So rude of her not to give me a telepathic heads-up =/

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monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

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Old March 24th 06, 09:13 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 2006-03-24, penned:

Wow! That's a lot of cans. I wonder if there was something not quite
right about that food? I would expect a cat to eat anything edible
if it's really, really hungry (to the point of actually losing
weight), but maybe if the cat thinks there's something wrong with
the food, they won't eat it no matter what.


Well, I was trying to guess at the number of cans in the case. There
were 5 left over when I finally gave up. Probably the initial several
cans of the case were interspersed with other flavors that I still
had.

DH also says that if she's really hungry, she'll eat. But she got
skinny enough that I was afraid to call her bluff.


I think you did the right thing by changing the food. This isn't
just a case of a cat being finicky and manipulating you. After she
refused the food over and over, I think you correctly interpreted
that she does not want it! But please don't feel guilty about it -
if she appeared to be eating it, and continued to act normally, then
you would have no reason to think anything was amiss. Once you
noticed her weight loss, then you were alerted to her eating
patterns. I can't imagine how you would have figured it out any
other way.


Well, I knew she wasn't eating much -- but it did look like she often
took a few bites off the top. I don't know. For all I know, she
really did "play" me and just didn't like the flavor, but in the end,
it doesn't really matter.

I just wish I'd twigged to it sooner; I could have traded in a bunch
of those cans for a flavor she *did* like.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

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Old March 24th 06, 09:20 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 2006-03-24, Christina Websell penned:

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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Yes, but your cats do have the option to hunt for themselves (well,
Boyfie might hunt for KFC, lately, it sounds like).


Well, yes, that is true although I didn't notice more than the
normal amount of hunting going on during the time I was calling
their bluff over their pickiness.


I just meant, if all else failed and they really hated your food, they
have options. Your cats would never starve to death. (Then again,
even if I let Oscar out, I strongly doubt she'd know how to hunt. And
she might capture the cute little rabbit that likes to eat the plants
in our front yard.)

leaves it for KFC. Two young rats this week that she apparently did
not fancy and which I stepped on first thing in the morning...


Eeeyuck! I think, if I had outdoor cats, I'd be tempted to wear
hard-soled slippers around the house.

If I fed Oscar
food that was somehow contaminated, she would have no options.


Do you suspect that this food might have been contaminated in any
way?


There's no reason to think so, other than Oscar's absolute refusal to
eat it.

Also, how long did it take for them to break down and eat the food
you provided?


To eat everything I provided, with gusto, about 10 days. They
didn't starve in the meantime, they did pick at the food and it was
there for several hours after each mealtime. I don't mind at all if
they take several hours to eat their meal, I think this is normal
for a cat, but mine were beginning to take the p, forcing me,
almost, to get really expensive stuff all the time and continually
changing their minds over what was the favourite of the day.


I also leave the food out for a while (actually, I just leave the food
out in the morning, then put down a new plate with new food in the
evening). Oscar has always been a "grazer," and I don't see any
reason to try to force her to eat all her food in one sitting. In
fact, she seems to prefer to wait at least half an hour to eat, which
also makes it hard to monitor her tastes.

Oscar is pretty consistent, I think -- she either likes a flavor or
doesn't. The trouble is her stupid human, who just can't keep them
all straight.


It's a pity really as I was shopping today and saw a tin of pink
salmon for 32p. I wanted to get it to treat them, but treating them
was how this whole food game started, so I didn't.


I guess they outsmarted themselves, taking too much advantage of a
good thing.

I can't imagine that a cat would allow itself to starve when food
(even if of the not-preferred flavour) was available. This would be
the ultimate in manipulative behaviour ;-) Maybe there was something
wrong with the food.


Maybe. Or maybe she's just crazy. She lost weight and didn't eat much
when I switched her to wet food, and also scared me, but I stuck to it,
and eventually she ate. Maybe I just don't have the nerve to go through
that again.

He's right, she will, but unless you can rule out for definite that
the food was bad you have done the right thing to get her something
else. I don't buy cases of food any more, just in case of this very
thing.


That's an interesting point. You just get several different flavors
every time?

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

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Old March 24th 06, 11:11 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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On 2006-03-23, Pat penned:

Yeah, I don't know how you handle 7 cats! One is enough to tie me in
knots.


Same here. TED once tried to talk me into adopting another cat from the
clinic
to keep Rusty company. Good thing I didn't. Rusty's
vet bills and prescription food are enough to bankrupt me. I don't need to
feed
another cat.

Winnie


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monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

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Old March 24th 06, 11:39 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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On 2006-03-24, Christina Websell penned:



He's right, she will, but unless you can rule out for definite that
the food was bad you have done the right thing to get her something
else. I don't buy cases of food any more, just in case of this very
thing.


That's an interesting point. You just get several different flavors
every time?


Yes. Not just different flavours but different brands. A few tins from
here and there. All different to give them a variety of tastes.
Some go down well and some don't. If they don't they just have to wait for
one that does the next day.

Tweed



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Old March 27th 06, 06:04 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 2006-03-24, Christina Websell penned:

Yes. Not just different flavours but different brands. A few tins
from here and there. All different to give them a variety of
tastes. Some go down well and some don't. If they don't they just
have to wait for one that does the next day.


Well, I went back and traded the last 5 cans of the "nasty" flavor for
a different flavor from the same brand. I told the proprietors my
story, but they said they hadn't heard of anyone else having problems.
They figured "cats just do that sometimes." Maybe ...

They give a discount for cases. It's 10% or something, not bad ...

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monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

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