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Old May 19th 10, 10:31 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community,rec.pets.cats.health+behav,rec.pets.cats.misc,rec.pets.cats.rescue
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On 5/19/2010 4:03 PM, Shylock wrote:
On May 19, 2:39 pm, nik wrote:

So yes, there is such a thing as "Maltese cat" but it's not a specific
breed, isn't extinct, and is not noted for being physically small.
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Hello "Simpson"

snip

I knew I'd regret it, where's my no #8 loon stick when I need it.


BTW, not everybody (probably hardly anybody) who disagrees with you is
Jew, I'm certainly not.


--
Nik Simpson
  #12  
Old May 20th 10, 12:38 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community,rec.pets.cats.health+behav,rec.pets.cats.misc,rec.pets.cats.rescue
Will in New Haven
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On May 19, 5:03*pm, Shylock wrote:
On May 19, 2:39*pm, nik Simpson wrote:



On 5/19/2010 9:42 AM, MeOwy wrote:


On May 19, 8:29 am, *wrote:
On May 19, 7:01 am, Will in New Haven


*wrote:
On May 18, 9:47 pm, *wrote:


On May 18, 1:49 pm, Will in New Haven


*wrote:
I have read several posts in which someone of unreliable sanity keeps
referrng to this phenomenon. I have searched out source material but
found none. However, I did find the following on the Talk Page for
Maltese Cat. Someone, very likely the moron who posts this drivel
here, simply asserts the same sort of garbage. He posted it in 2007,
was asked for references before he could put it in the article itself
and, of course, never provided any. I will continue to search for
something about this other than naked claims.


During the Black Plague in Britain the Maltese cat literally saved
Europe from extinction. Regardless, this breed rarely appears on the
charts that hang in veterinarians' offices.


When the Plague first broke out, its cause was unknown; it was
eventually determined to be carried by fleas. Fleas, and presumably
the disease, had been around for a long time, so why should there
suddenly be an epidemic? The cause was the cats--not what the cats
did, but rather what they did not do. Over time, England had bred
their cats to magnificent sizes. Beautiful for show, they had become
useless at catching, killing and eating vermin.


The British feline was no longer able to get into the small spaces
where rats and mice hid. The rats proliferated, and their fleas
brought the Plague.


The small Maltese Cat has tiny ears, tiny paws, a short tail, short
legs, short fur, and the solid color and appearance of a gray rat.. It
has a somewhat flat face with round, green eyes, and a loving
expression. In (an unknown year--what was it, please?) the English
imported large numbers of these Maltese cats. They were not recognized
as a special breed, and for centuries remained just the Maltese cat.
In recent history (years???) the Maltese breed has been recognized in
America, but currently seems to have been forgotten and for most
purposes is extinct.


(End) Snezzy 03:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


Of course, I had to put my own two cents in. My rebuttal is not based
on the lack of sources, although I do mention it, but on the lack of
logic in the entire idea.


The previous "contribution," aside from being unsourced, is illogical
from start to finish. The plague came at a time long before anyone was
breeding cats for shows or, for that matter, practicing selective
breeding of cats at all. Certainly, the grainry cat, the barn cat and
the street cat, the cats that hunted the rodents, were not being
selectively bred. The plague hit many locations outside of the British
Isles and there is no record, or even any claim here, that the Maltese
Cat was imported to the many other places that saw the plague diminish
and eventually die out. Of course, the importation into the British
Isles isn't documented either but I'm just going after logical
inconsistancies, not the likelihood that the whole thing is a lie or
delusion. Perhaps the dumbest thing about the entire claim is the
assumption that small cats are better at hunting rodents. The rodents
that, for the most part, spread the plague were rats, not mice.
Getting into a small space with Norwegicus, or even Indicus, would be
inadvisable for the tiny cat described. The poor adorable thing would
be killed. Big cats are better ratters and terriers are better yet.

  #13  
Old May 20th 10, 01:02 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community,rec.pets.cats.health+behav,rec.pets.cats.misc,rec.pets.cats.rescue
Granby
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And just think, on some newsgroups, you get nearly beheaded for messing with
the trolls. They ae of such high entertainment value.
"Will in New Haven" wrote in message
...
On May 19, 5:03 pm, Shylock wrote:
On May 19, 2:39 pm, nik Simpson wrote:



On 5/19/2010 9:42 AM, MeOwy wrote:


On May 19, 8:29 am, wrote:
On May 19, 7:01 am, Will in New Haven


wrote:
On May 18, 9:47 pm, wrote:


On May 18, 1:49 pm, Will in New Haven


wrote:
I have read several posts in which someone of unreliable sanity
keeps
referrng to this phenomenon. I have searched out source material
but
found none. However, I did find the following on the Talk Page for
Maltese Cat. Someone, very likely the moron who posts this drivel
here, simply asserts the same sort of garbage. He posted it in
2007,
was asked for references before he could put it in the article
itself
and, of course, never provided any. I will continue to search for
something about this other than naked claims.


During the Black Plague in Britain the Maltese cat literally saved
Europe from extinction. Regardless, this breed rarely appears on
the
charts that hang in veterinarians' offices.


When the Plague first broke out, its cause was unknown; it was
eventually determined to be carried by fleas. Fleas, and
presumably
the disease, had been around for a long time, so why should there
suddenly be an epidemic? The cause was the cats--not what the cats
did, but rather what they did not do. Over time, England had bred
their cats to magnificent sizes. Beautiful for show, they had
become
useless at catching, killing and eating vermin.


The British feline was no longer able to get into the small spaces
where rats and mice hid. The rats proliferated, and their fleas
brought the Plague.


The small Maltese Cat has tiny ears, tiny paws, a short tail,
short
legs, short fur, and the solid color and appearance of a gray rat.
It
has a somewhat flat face with round, green eyes, and a loving
expression. In (an unknown year--what was it, please?) the English
imported large numbers of these Maltese cats. They were not
recognized
as a special breed, and for centuries remained just the Maltese
cat.
In recent history (years???) the Maltese breed has been recognized
in
America, but currently seems to have been forgotten and for most
purposes is extinct.


(End) Snezzy 03:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


Of course, I had to put my own two cents in. My rebuttal is not
based
on the lack of sources, although I do mention it, but on the lack
of
logic in the entire idea.


The previous "contribution," aside from being unsourced, is
illogical
from start to finish. The plague came at a time long before anyone
was
breeding cats for shows or, for that matter, practicing selective
breeding of cats at all. Certainly, the grainry cat, the barn cat
and
the street cat, the cats that hunted the rodents, were not being
selectively bred. The plague hit many locations outside of the
British
Isles and there is no record, or even any claim here, that the
Maltese
Cat was imported to the many other places that saw the plague
diminish
and eventually die out. Of course, the importation into the
British
Isles isn't documented either but I'm just going after logical
inconsistancies, not the likelihood that the whole thing is a lie
or
delusion. Perhaps the dumbest thing about the entire claim is the
assumption that small cats are better at hunting rodents. The
rodents
that, for the most part, spread the plague were rats, not mice.
Getting into a small space with Norwegicus, or even Indicus, would
be
inadvisable for the tiny cat described. The poor adorable thing
would
be killed. Big cats are better ratters and terriers are better
yet.


Hello,


Your agenda is . . . ? . . .


Exposing your lies for what they are. A fairty tale, told in support
of some small amount of fact and reason perhaps.


These Corporate Society liars are massively fat, grunting pigs,
snorting and rutting up, out of the mud, manure and slop, any tasty
morsel they can find, offer and use to lure the hapless “customer”
into their den of thieves to cause customer to make a purchase.
They
say:
“BIG CATS EAT MORE”;
“FAT CATS EAT MORE”;
“BIG FAT CATS EAT MORE MORE”;


Big cats, genetically larger cats, are much more capable of catching
and killing rats. This is an important place where your fairy-tale
breaks down. Of course, cats that are allowed to become obese are
not
going to hunt at all. And obesity is bad for cats, just as it is for
humans. But _you_ are the only source for the whole "Extinct Maltese
Cat" line of bull****.


So along comes a little, old lady that knows a thing or two that
Corporate Society has been preventing customer from learning, and
that
is: American cats are getting too big and too fat. So Corporate
Society crucifies the little, old lady, and all her sweet, little
kitties, in order to save their bottom . . . Dollar . . .


You lie to yourself, believe it and then lie to others.


--
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So, can't we just google Maltese Cats and get the truth from Google?-
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Gee, I just went ahead and did this. Here's the result (same thing
from various sources):


The term Maltese cat refers to blue or gray cats. Maltese cats are
not a cat breed, Maltese refers to their coloring.
www.cat-lovers-gifts-guide.com/Maltese-cat.html


While not wishing to get involved with Shylock's lunacy (though it does
have a dreadful fascination as a warning about the dangers of mental
care in the community) I can't resist. The term "maltese" in this
context simply refers to blue gray cats like my Emily, or the famous
Persia. There's a brief discussion on Wikipedia...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cat


So it's not completely out of the question that vet charts in the past
used "maltese cat" as general catch-all for blue-grey cats such as the
Russian Blue. Of course the coloring is not specific to any particular
breed and occurs naturally. My first cat (Eliza) had several
short-haired blue grey kittens despite the fact the she was a
long-haired grey tabby. One the kittens was an absolutely gorgeous
blue-grey tom, and in adulthood he certainly wasn't physically small, in
fact he was a magnificent 13 pounds.


So yes, there is such a thing as "Maltese cat" but it's not a specific
breed, isn't extinct, and is not noted for being physically small.
--
Nik Simpson- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hello "Simpson"

God forbid another Jew with his bag of lies attacks?: See John
8:44http://tinyurl.com/theJew


He's not a Jew, but I am. And you are the one with a bag of lies and
nothing to back them up. Your disgusting ideas and actions concerning
cats are enough to condemn you out of your own lying vile mouth. That
you are a frothing-at-the-mouth hater just puts icing on the cake.

You have posted the same fairy-tale about the so-called extinct
Maltese Cat in several places and it is all bull-****. And you quote
the same lying websites about the other stuff that the other haters
and liars post and you lie to each other and believe it.

--
Will in New Haven


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Old May 20th 10, 01:18 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community,rec.pets.cats.health+behav,rec.pets.cats.misc,rec.pets.cats.rescue
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On May 19, 11:41*am, Shylock wrote:
On May 19, 10:29*am, MeOwy wrote:





On May 19, 7:01*am, Will in New Haven


wrote:
On May 18, 9:47*pm, Shylock wrote:


On May 18, 1:49*pm, Will in New Haven


wrote:
I have read several posts in which someone of unreliable sanity keeps
referrng to this phenomenon. I have searched out source material but
found none. However, I did find the following on the Talk Page for
Maltese Cat. Someone, very likely the moron who posts this drivel
here, simply asserts the same sort of garbage. He posted it in 2007,
was asked for references before he could put it in the article itself
and, of course, never provided any. I will continue to search for
something about this other than naked claims.


During the Black Plague in Britain the Maltese cat literally saved
Europe from extinction. Regardless, this breed rarely appears on the
charts that hang in veterinarians' offices.


When the Plague first broke out, its cause was unknown; it was
eventually determined to be carried by fleas. Fleas, and presumably
the disease, had been around for a long time, so why should there
suddenly be an epidemic? The cause was the cats--not what the cats
did, but rather what they did not do. Over time, England had bred
their cats to magnificent sizes. Beautiful for show, they had become
useless at catching, killing and eating vermin.


The British feline was no longer able to get into the small spaces
where rats and mice hid. The rats proliferated, and their fleas
brought the Plague.


The small Maltese Cat has tiny ears, tiny paws, a short tail, short
legs, short fur, and the solid color and appearance of a gray rat.. It
has a somewhat flat face with round, green eyes, and a loving
expression. In (an unknown year--what was it, please?) the English
imported large numbers of these Maltese cats. They were not recognized
as a special breed, and for centuries remained just the Maltese cat.
In recent history (years???) the Maltese breed has been recognized in
America, but currently seems to have been forgotten and for most
purposes is extinct.


(End) Snezzy 03:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


Of course, I had to put my own two cents in. My rebuttal is not based
on the lack of sources, although I do mention it, but on the lack of
logic in the entire idea.


The previous "contribution," aside from being unsourced, is illogical
from start to finish. The plague came at a time long before anyone was
breeding cats for shows or, for that matter, practicing selective
breeding of cats at all. Certainly, the grainry cat, the barn cat and
the street cat, the cats that hunted the rodents, were not being
selectively bred. The plague hit many locations outside of the British
Isles and there is no record, or even any claim here, that the Maltese
Cat was imported to the many other places that saw the plague diminish
and eventually die out. Of course, the importation into the British
Isles isn't documented either but I'm just going after logical
inconsistancies, not the likelihood that the whole thing is a lie or
delusion. Perhaps the dumbest thing about the entire claim is the
assumption that small cats are better at hunting rodents. The rodents
that, for the most part, spread the plague were rats, not mice.
Getting into a small space with Norwegicus, or even Indicus, would be
inadvisable for the tiny cat described. The poor adorable thing would
be killed. Big cats are better ratters and terriers are better yet.

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