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"Caliban" wrote in message thlink.net... "MaryL" wrote "Caliban" wrote wrote Caliban wrote: snip (2) how many cats I could save down at the shelter with the money I was expending on a current but sadly very sick cat. This is really despicable of you to consider a cat disposable and unworthy of care because of a money issue, Do you spend all your money saving cats? If not, your hypocrisy is despicable. Megan is licensed to care for 25 cats, and she currently is at the maximum of 25. Most of these cats were abused, neglected or feral when she adopted them. She gave me a tremendous amount of help when I adopted Duffy, and I know enough about her circumstances to say that she really does spend almost all of her resources on the care of these cats. Several of them are undergoing very expensive care at this moment -- care that she gives them even though this means that she must deprive herself of many things that most of us would consider to be basic. Assuming this is true, do you think that's fair to ask every cat owner to do this? Actually, I was responding to your inference that she was being hypocritical if she didn't spend all her money on cats. She clearly can't spend "all" her money on the care of cats, but she comes as close to it as anyone I know. I hoped that she would send information (which she did) because the amount of cost listed here sounds unreasonable to me. I don't think most veterinary care for diabetic cats would even approach the amounts that have been charged to the OP. Following up on my own statement: I amount charged for care appears to be incredibly high -- "outrageous," in fact. |
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Karen wrote:
The costs are out of bounds. Also for the blockage. My cat had a blockage and after three days of treatment it was more like 400 dollars (and that was an emergency vet, not my regular) not 1200. The OP's vet is exhorbitant. I totally agree. I have had two instances in the last year dealing with blocked cats. One belongs to a friend of mine who is legally blind and cannot drive. She called me up scared because Buster Brown was lying on the floor and unable to get up. I rushed her and her kitty to the ER at about 11 at night and it turned out he was blocked. The cost to treat, which is more expensive than a regular vet, was $500. He is now on a strictly canned diet and doing very well with no reoccurences. The second incident was a cat I was petsitting over Christmas. He had a UTI right before the owner left so I was watching the litterbox like a hawk and counting his pee clumps and looking at how big they were. After 12 hours of nothing I brought him into the vet and sure enough he was blocked. He stayed at the clinic for three days (over the Christmas holiday) and had to be catheterized twice during that time. The cost was a little over $600. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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Karen wrote:
The costs are out of bounds. Also for the blockage. My cat had a blockage and after three days of treatment it was more like 400 dollars (and that was an emergency vet, not my regular) not 1200. The OP's vet is exhorbitant. I totally agree. I have had two instances in the last year dealing with blocked cats. One belongs to a friend of mine who is legally blind and cannot drive. She called me up scared because Buster Brown was lying on the floor and unable to get up. I rushed her and her kitty to the ER at about 11 at night and it turned out he was blocked. The cost to treat, which is more expensive than a regular vet, was $500. He is now on a strictly canned diet and doing very well with no reoccurences. The second incident was a cat I was petsitting over Christmas. He had a UTI right before the owner left so I was watching the litterbox like a hawk and counting his pee clumps and looking at how big they were. After 12 hours of nothing I brought him into the vet and sure enough he was blocked. He stayed at the clinic for three days (over the Christmas holiday) and had to be catheterized twice during that time. The cost was a little over $600. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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Caliban wrote:
That she would interpret my words as considering cats "disposable and unworthy of care" is outrageous. Fortunately, my post speaks for itself, as does hers. Your post spoke so loudly that everyone interpreted it as I did. As is discussed here often, many agree that there is a point where, despite the best intentions, it's better to put a cat down. It may very well be that this cat is suffering and his time has come, couldn't it? Did you even read (or comprehend) the original post??? This is not about the cat suffering and nothing more being able to be done for it. This about the OP's frustation with the cost of vet care and the cat getting another UTI and possible blockage. You don't kill a cat because it has a UTI or blockage. Sheesh. What the OP needs is an understanding shoulder and some viable options that will help him to care for his cat better at an infinitely smaller cost. Not suggestions that it should be killed, especially during a time when there is a lot of frustration on the OP's part. That is not the time to make irreversible decisions. I've offered to help him and I hope he takes me up on it. This is nowhere near a hopeless situation and euthanasia shouldn't even be part of the discussion at this point. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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Caliban wrote:
That she would interpret my words as considering cats "disposable and unworthy of care" is outrageous. Fortunately, my post speaks for itself, as does hers. Your post spoke so loudly that everyone interpreted it as I did. As is discussed here often, many agree that there is a point where, despite the best intentions, it's better to put a cat down. It may very well be that this cat is suffering and his time has come, couldn't it? Did you even read (or comprehend) the original post??? This is not about the cat suffering and nothing more being able to be done for it. This about the OP's frustation with the cost of vet care and the cat getting another UTI and possible blockage. You don't kill a cat because it has a UTI or blockage. Sheesh. What the OP needs is an understanding shoulder and some viable options that will help him to care for his cat better at an infinitely smaller cost. Not suggestions that it should be killed, especially during a time when there is a lot of frustration on the OP's part. That is not the time to make irreversible decisions. I've offered to help him and I hope he takes me up on it. This is nowhere near a hopeless situation and euthanasia shouldn't even be part of the discussion at this point. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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We were going to call the vet Monday to schedule that test. It is
Saturday night at 11:00 I catch Andy trying to pee on the carpet. (another blockage) I know we should rush out to the emergency vet, but I decided to wait until morning (it is now almost 1:00am) and see what the night brings. He may well be dead, have I not done more than most? am I evil? When is the point when enough is enough? The biggest problem I see with your post is that the cat is probably in extreme discomfort from the blockage. No matter what you decide, it's wrong to let him suffer for 8 or 9 hours when you there is an ER available to you. Sherry |
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We were going to call the vet Monday to schedule that test. It is
Saturday night at 11:00 I catch Andy trying to pee on the carpet. (another blockage) I know we should rush out to the emergency vet, but I decided to wait until morning (it is now almost 1:00am) and see what the night brings. He may well be dead, have I not done more than most? am I evil? When is the point when enough is enough? The biggest problem I see with your post is that the cat is probably in extreme discomfort from the blockage. No matter what you decide, it's wrong to let him suffer for 8 or 9 hours when you there is an ER available to you. Sherry |
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"Philip Wagner" wrote ...
I know most here will condemn me for suggesting it but I just can't keep throwing money away on our cat Andy. In summer 2002 Andy was diagnosed with diabetes. The total costs in two months was $1,600.00. The vet still wanted us to bring him in every two weeks at $200.00 a crack for day long blood sugar tests. This would end when they determined the insulin level was right. However other costs such as expensive food, and the problem of having other cats that try to eat this expensive food. One good thing Andy is so overwieght he cannot get up to the other cats food dish. When he wants to eat he incesantly meows until we come and pick him up and put him on a counter and open the container with his food. Another thing is the insulin, a minor cost in the sceme of things. These costs seem very high. I had a diabetic kitty and the expenses were nowhere near that. I would encourage you to go to the message board at www.felinediabetes.com for advice on caring for Andy. One thing they will suggest is that you do the blood sugar curves yourself. I had a glucometer and tested my cats level every day in addition to doing curves as needed. It is not very difficult once you get the hang of it. Doesn't answer your question of when is enough enough, but maybe it will help you find other options so that you won't feel so frustrated. Tracy |
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"Philip Wagner" wrote ...
I know most here will condemn me for suggesting it but I just can't keep throwing money away on our cat Andy. In summer 2002 Andy was diagnosed with diabetes. The total costs in two months was $1,600.00. The vet still wanted us to bring him in every two weeks at $200.00 a crack for day long blood sugar tests. This would end when they determined the insulin level was right. However other costs such as expensive food, and the problem of having other cats that try to eat this expensive food. One good thing Andy is so overwieght he cannot get up to the other cats food dish. When he wants to eat he incesantly meows until we come and pick him up and put him on a counter and open the container with his food. Another thing is the insulin, a minor cost in the sceme of things. These costs seem very high. I had a diabetic kitty and the expenses were nowhere near that. I would encourage you to go to the message board at www.felinediabetes.com for advice on caring for Andy. One thing they will suggest is that you do the blood sugar curves yourself. I had a glucometer and tested my cats level every day in addition to doing curves as needed. It is not very difficult once you get the hang of it. Doesn't answer your question of when is enough enough, but maybe it will help you find other options so that you won't feel so frustrated. Tracy |
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