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"Hemmaholic" wrote in message oups.com... "Phil said. . . Yeah, I've met a lot people like you who feel helping strays and ferals or even volunteering in a shelter somehow justifies buying a 'purebred' -- as if they're rewarding themselves for the good they do. " I resent the implication that because I have chosen to purchase a purebred I am somehow "rewarding" myself for the "good I do". I will not, however, justify my decision to you or any other narrow minded people who think anything other than a "short/long haired domestic, aka: alley cat" is the only breed anyone should ever share their lives with. How many animals do you have, how many feral colonies have you helped to set up and how many do you, personally, care for? Or do you just pontificate and try to force your views on others? Hemma Heh. |
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If you are to cheap to buy a purebred,then fine go get a free one from a
shelter or from the free kittens ad from the news paper.But if you want a good cat stop smoking or drinking and use the money to buy a purebred. "Brian Link" wrote in message ... Going through old photos today, and came across a directory filled with pics from when we were thinking about buying a Bengal (which we did, and he's wonderful). Most are from this site: http://www.tibcs.com/petcorner/photos.php After having been through an ordeal with a stray, and knowing the incredible number of discarded cats available for adoption, is it morally wrong to think of adopting another purebred? We've adopted six strays over the last ten years. We bought our Bengal primarily because we wanted a cat whose personality could be determined before hand, so it would keep our playful, energetic Tiger company. This was a specific case that's worked out fantastically.. http://www.discant.com/Cat/Henry%20001.jpg But I really love this breed - and if we can get ahold of a kitten, there's a better chance that Louis won't go nuts. Just a thought. Breeders will continue to breed no matter what we do, and poor strays will get euthanized no matter what we do. But is this just rationalizing? Eh.. I'm not totally driven to take in another cat, but I keep wondering what Louis will do when Tiger finally dies.. it would be so nice for him to have another friend around. Also I'd be happy to hear others' thoughts about adopting from a shelter vs adopting a purebred. BLink |
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"Oh please. Kittens that are not adopted end up on the kill-pile as
well. have you not ever worked in a kill shelter? The puppies and kittens are killed just as the adults. Don't deny any animal destined for the kill-pile a home. Around here, the kittens fly out of the shelter (both the no-kill and the municipal) and the adult cats who aren't blessed with people outreach skills languish indefinitely if they aren't euthanized. Those are the facts. 8/10 potential adopters want kittens. Probably 50% of the remaining ones won't look at at a cat older than 2 or 3 years old. It's a problem. Some of those people have to be redirected to the enormous stock of 5 year old cats whose owners have dumped them. And it's hard. "A kitten is a better fit for some families -not every family is a good fit for an adult cat" Yeah, it's too bad the kittens grow up into adult cats then, isn't it? I can't count the number of people who sweep in during kitten season, pick a cutie, and then send him on back a year or two later when he's not a baby anymore. I'm getting progressively more leery of kittens-only folks everyday. |
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wrote in message ups.com... Yeah, it's too bad the kittens grow up into adult cats then, isn't it? I can't count the number of people who sweep in during kitten season, pick a cutie, and then send him on back a year or two later when he's not a baby anymore. I'm getting progressively more leery of kittens-only folks everyday. That would be because, working in a shelter, you don't get to see much of those who get a kitten and keep it for the next 15 years ... I'm beginning to get more than mildly leary of the shelter folk who assume every cat owner must be like the irresponsible ones they see the results of. There are far too many of them on usenet. |
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"That would be because, working in a shelter, you don't get to see much
of those who get a kitten and keep it for the next 15 years ..." I don't work in a shelter. Just volunteer on Saturday afternoons to do some adoption counseling for cats. "I'm beginning to get more than mildly leary of the shelter folk who assume every cat owner must be like the irresponsible ones they see the results of. There are far too many of them on usenet. " Some are, some aren't. I see some pretty scary people on a regular basis. Not bad people, but ignorant and careless about how to take care of a pet. My neighbor used to leave her little puppy chained up to a soaking wet plastic doghouse in the pouring rain (until I harassed her about it). Not a bad person, but doing a bad thing. It happens all the time. And as I said, the "I want a little kitten, not a cat" people have a particularly high ratio. |
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wrote in message oups.com... "That would be because, working in a shelter, you don't get to see much of those who get a kitten and keep it for the next 15 years ..." I don't work in a shelter. Just volunteer on Saturday afternoons to do some adoption counseling for cats. Same diff. "I'm beginning to get more than mildly leary of the shelter folk who assume every cat owner must be like the irresponsible ones they see the results of. There are far too many of them on usenet. " Some are, some aren't. I see some pretty scary people on a regular basis. Not bad people, but ignorant and careless about how to take care of a pet. My neighbor used to leave her little puppy chained up to a soaking wet plastic doghouse in the pouring rain (until I harassed her about it). Not a bad person, but doing a bad thing. And no doubt would have responded well to a caring "Do you realise" instead of harassment. Education is much more effective than badgering. It happens all the time. And as I said, the "I want a little kitten, not a cat" people have a particularly high ratio. Well, you know what, when I get new cats, I get kittens. I love the kitten stage and I wouldn't miss it for the world. Last two I got are still here, 10.5 years later. Ones before that, sadly I had to find homes for when I left Britain. But, you know what, I *found* a home for them, together. With a family who adored them. People working, or volunteering as you do, see the bad stories. Those of us who aren't like that simply don't get noticed. For the same reason that good news doesn't sell papers. I am, however, really sick of the lecturing "If you saw what I saw" bunch around here, who seem to think that anyone who has slightly different views about cats than they do must be evil, or close to it. Having said that, such posters are progressively filling up my killfile, so their words are, in my case, falling on deaf ears. Really advancing their cause, aren't they? |
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"And no doubt would have responded well to a caring "Do you realise"
instead of harassment. Education is much more effective than badgering" If you're talking about my neighbor, the answer is no. They received several caring overtures which were totally ignored. They responded to what was basically a public shaming. And again, if you're talking about people returning kittens to shelters after they've grown up - I have tried talking to these people - to no avail. It's always allergies, spouses, babies, moving, it's not as cute as it used to be and that's that.. "Well, you know what, when I get new cats, I get kittens. I love the kitten stage and I wouldn't miss it for the world. Last two I got are still here, 10.5 years later. Ones before that, sadly I had to find homes for when I left Britain. But, you know what, I *found* a home for them, together. With a family who adored them. People working, or volunteering as you do, see the bad stories. Those of us who aren't like that simply don't get noticed. For the same reason that good news doesn't sell papers" I get that your defensive reaction came from your predilection for adopting kittens. You're right, being a responsible adopter of kittens is better than being an irresponsible adopter of kittens. But I do reserve my warmest thoughts and a higher level of admiration for people who adopt troubled adult cats. It's more work, it's less common, and they are deserving of high praise. |
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wrote in message ups.com... I get that your defensive reaction came from your predilection for adopting kittens. No, actually, it's not a defensive reaction. It's an aggressive reaction. I'm sick to death of the holier-than-thou attitude some posters on this ng display. In all honesty, I'm not sick-to-death of it enough for it to keep me awake at night, nor am I sick-to-death of it enough for it to concern me when I'm not posting, but I am sick-to-death enough of it to point it out here a few times. You're right, being a responsible adopter of kittens is better than being an irresponsible adopter of kittens. But I do reserve my warmest thoughts and a higher level of admiration for people who adopt troubled adult cats. It's more work, it's less common, and they are deserving of high praise. You are assuming, tracyrose, that anyone really cares about your praise. Some of us just care about enjoying our cats. |
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I am, however, really sick of the lecturing "If you saw what I saw" bunch around here, who seem to think that anyone who has slightly different views about cats than they do must be evil, or close to it. As a member of the "If you saw what I saw" camp, and I can probably speak for Phil in that camp also, you're not nearly as sick of us as we are of you. Sherry |
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