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My position may not
always be popular but at least I can go away knowing I fight for what I think is right. Oh, Lord. This sounds eerily familiar. It's the strangest usenet phenomenon. This is the second person I've run across who considers flaming on on usenet "fighting for what is right." When push comes to shove, and "fighting for what is right" actually involves spending money, getting your hands dirty and bringing a stray cat into your home and figuring out how to separate it from your cats and exactly what you're gonna do with it, suddenly it's not such a hot idea. Pffft. Sherry |
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My position may not
always be popular but at least I can go away knowing I fight for what I think is right. Oh, Lord. This sounds eerily familiar. It's the strangest usenet phenomenon. This is the second person I've run across who considers flaming on on usenet "fighting for what is right." When push comes to shove, and "fighting for what is right" actually involves spending money, getting your hands dirty and bringing a stray cat into your home and figuring out how to separate it from your cats and exactly what you're gonna do with it, suddenly it's not such a hot idea. Pffft. Sherry |
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"Laura R." wrote in message .net... circa Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:14:24 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector ) said, Yes, even people like Laura who claim to be cat lovers also have attacked me for my position. It may be hard to deal with it but stick to your guns and don't let them push you around. You have a right to say what you have to say. Oh, for god's sake, quit being such a freak. Laura -- I am Dyslexia of Borg, Your ass will be laminated. I really hate to have to say this, but by now even CP has to know that he is not the brightest bulb in the pack. I don't think he can help it. A general lack of a sense of humor exacerbates things. |
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"Laura R." wrote in message .net... circa Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:14:24 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector ) said, Yes, even people like Laura who claim to be cat lovers also have attacked me for my position. It may be hard to deal with it but stick to your guns and don't let them push you around. You have a right to say what you have to say. Oh, for god's sake, quit being such a freak. Laura -- I am Dyslexia of Borg, Your ass will be laminated. I really hate to have to say this, but by now even CP has to know that he is not the brightest bulb in the pack. I don't think he can help it. A general lack of a sense of humor exacerbates things. |
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"Laura R." wrote in message .net... circa Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:14:24 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector ) said, Yes, even people like Laura who claim to be cat lovers also have attacked me for my position. It may be hard to deal with it but stick to your guns and don't let them push you around. You have a right to say what you have to say. Oh, for god's sake, quit being such a freak. Laura -- I am Dyslexia of Borg, Your ass will be laminated. I really hate to have to say this, but by now even CP has to know that he is not the brightest bulb in the pack. I don't think he can help it. A general lack of a sense of humor exacerbates things. |
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"Sherry " wrote in message ... Why don't you just read some of your own posts? They sound just as crazy and bellicose as anyone's here. ( I have noticed that Wingnut and **** are two of your favorite words.) I know nothing about CP or whoever he is, but you are certainly not always the voice of reason. Judy F Actually, I've been reading Laura's posts a long time. "Wingnut" isn't a word she uses much. But it is incredibly fitting and I can't think of a better descriptive. CP makes her crazy, that's all. He makes everybody crazy. I didn't even read this entire thread because I felt myself becoming crazy and wishing I had a virtual bitch-slap program installed on this computer with CP's name on it. Sherry :-) I celebrate you. |
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"Sherry " wrote in message ... Why don't you just read some of your own posts? They sound just as crazy and bellicose as anyone's here. ( I have noticed that Wingnut and **** are two of your favorite words.) I know nothing about CP or whoever he is, but you are certainly not always the voice of reason. Judy F Actually, I've been reading Laura's posts a long time. "Wingnut" isn't a word she uses much. But it is incredibly fitting and I can't think of a better descriptive. CP makes her crazy, that's all. He makes everybody crazy. I didn't even read this entire thread because I felt myself becoming crazy and wishing I had a virtual bitch-slap program installed on this computer with CP's name on it. Sherry :-) I celebrate you. |
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"Sherry " wrote in message ... Why don't you just read some of your own posts? They sound just as crazy and bellicose as anyone's here. ( I have noticed that Wingnut and **** are two of your favorite words.) I know nothing about CP or whoever he is, but you are certainly not always the voice of reason. Judy F Actually, I've been reading Laura's posts a long time. "Wingnut" isn't a word she uses much. But it is incredibly fitting and I can't think of a better descriptive. CP makes her crazy, that's all. He makes everybody crazy. I didn't even read this entire thread because I felt myself becoming crazy and wishing I had a virtual bitch-slap program installed on this computer with CP's name on it. Sherry :-) I celebrate you. |
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You could have fooled me. Everything you have stated here is pro-Clay and
pretty much think we should ignore his comments. The hateful things he has said about cats is fact but it seems you Aiken fans seem to make things up to defend your idol as you go along. PETA just reminded Aiken that his hurtful comments will not go un-noticed. The problem is his fans can't take the fact their idol is not superhuman or a god. As for you being a Claymate all you have done is defend and make excuses for him here. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "EO" wrote in message om... Fair enough. I didn't come here to make you worship Clay. For goodness sake, I don't even worship the man or ANYONE. For me, it's about free speech and libel. PETA has a track record of making false claims. They have a track record for lots of suspect activites and I came here to correct a misnomer. Clay Aiken's fear of cats has been well documented in radio and tv interviews. Whether you find Clay Aiken's comment about cats (which was facetious as noted in the article by the Rollingstone writer) to be hurtful is obviously very personal and your perogative. You are the "Cat Protector", I get that. But to repeat lies that were issued in PETA's propaganda to somehow justify your emotions is 1)not necessary and 2)baseless. You have every right to feel how you do towards Clay Aiken's comments. I'm not making excuses for Clay Aiken, I'm only repeating the facts. HE is SCARED of CATS. Much ado about nothing. You can try and reduce this to "claymate" talk, whatever that is, and make analogies that are truely reaching, but I'm not a claymate, so it wouldn't get you too far anyways. "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Fl8wb.11151$Gj2.9565@okepread01... One of the Claymates returns to defend his/her tin god Clay Aiken. He said those hurtful words about cats and now he needs to deal with it and stop behind hiding his legions of fans and his lawyers. Geeze! You Claymates act like you are best friends with him or soemthing. You say that I erroneously assigned my own reason to the article and his words. I don't see how you can possibly blow what he said out of context. Make all the excuses you want for him but Aiken said those hurtful words about cats. I think those that excuse his words and back him no matter what are guilty themselves. It may not be a crime to say what he said but it also doesn't make it right either. In point one it seems that in the eyes of Clay Aiken fans that if you say one word against their idol that you are the enemy. I have seen how fanatical you fans get when worshipping a person. Look at the Michael Jackson case. He has been accused of a child molestation a crime he was accused of before and yet his fans will stand behind him. They don't want to believe that he might be guilty. If he turns out to be, then I am sure his fans will make some excuse for what he says or does. You'll have to learn that your Clay is not superhuman. He is not a god and he certainly is no idol. I think you just don't like the fact that there are people out there who don't agree with what he said. The funnu thing is you Clay fans make up stories such as him hiding in kitchen pantry's, etc just to excuse his referring to cats as evil. Just because Triumph and the SPCA (please note this is the SPCA in his own state not U.S. wide) choose to back him doesn't prove anything. For all we know the SPCA in his state has had brushes with the law regarding how they keep the animals. It seems no matter what is said you'll back Clay but you are not going to change my position because I love cats and thus can think for myself. I don't have to follow anyone like you obviously seem the need to. Clay is no god and he is certainly no idol in my eyes. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "EO" wrote in message om... "Would a person who love cats say that?" ---Wow. I guess I really do have to break it down for you. No one said he LOVES cats. Point #1: Not everyone has to love cats. Your world seems very black and white, either you love them or you're the enemy. Goodness. Just because he has a fear of cats doesn't mean he doesn't want you to have your cat. Clay owns a dog, he is a dog person. That's not a crime. Point #2: You erroneously assign your own reason to something he clearly goes on to explain in the article. "There's nothing worse TO HIM then a housecat" because he is SCARED of cats. Not once did he say it's because he just plain "detests" or "hates" cats. Please point to where it is that he says "I detest cats". The article does however quote Clay saying that he is "afraid" of them. If a friend got a new cat he didn't know about, Clay would just hide in another room. One time there were 3 cats, he hid in the kitchen pantry and people wondered where he was until they heard an "ahem" coming from behind the door. It was quite comical actually. Both Triumph and the SPCA are backing Clay. Because they can actually read. You might want to try that...actually read what's before you rather than putting words into people's mouths. "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:qgVvb.10883$Gj2.8790@okepread01... Once again, a Claymate has to make up a lot of crap to defend their idol. It says he detests cats. In case you have no idea what the word means it is the same as hate. He called a cat "Satan" and says "there is nothing worse than a house cat." Would a person who loves cats say that? Hell no! I guess you Clay fans have proven my point that you'll support Aiken no matter what he says or does. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "EO" wrote in message ... The article doesn't say he hates cats. It says he is AFRAID of cats - "I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death". Context means everything. He has also explained in countless radio and tv interviews that he is "afraid of cats because of the accident". He must have loved his kitten so much to have had the event affect him til this day. In the end though, the point is there's no rule where everyone in the world must LOVE cats. Clay's a dog person. Big deal. BTW, the SPCA (The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) is standing by Clay against PETA as well. PETA is so dumb, they're now turning their attention and going after David Letterman and Jack Hanna over some Niambi animals. ha "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:YpPvb.10851$Gj2.3215@okepread01... That article says he detests cats. That is the same as hating them. I guess we got another Claymate on this board who believes his idol can do no wrong. I guess calling cats "Satan" and saying "there is nothing worse than a house cat" in your eyes means he loves cats right? BTW, nowhere in that article does it say that it was an accident regarding that kitten. Clay needs help and you can tell your fellow Clay fans that in my opinion they are a bit cookoo themselves. Don't the Clay fans have a life? Apparently not if they are camping out to see him. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "EO" wrote in message om... If you actually read the rollingstone issue, it's pretty clear that the interviewer was recounting Clay's idiosyncrancies - rarely swears, many allerfies, is so afraid of water he can't drive across bridges, etc. Fear of cats was among the details. Clay never said he hated cats, he said he was afraid of cats, haunted by them ala Satan because he accidently ran over his own kitten and was traumatized at watching it die. Even PETA's own spokesperson "Triumph the Insult dog" stands by Clay AGAINST PETA. I especially like the part where Triumph calls PETA "cuckoo". From his official website http://www.triumphtheinsultcomicdog.com [excerpt from site] That should be the end of the story. But hold the phone - we're dealing with PETA. Bong - cuckoo! As you see, I made a typically poopy quip in the ad: "Get Neutered - It Didn't Hurt Clay Aiken." It actually wasn't my first choice. I really wanted "Chop 'Em Off - They Didn't Taste That Great Anyway." But PETA was jonesing for the Clay joke. Whatever. Just give me my pub and go back to your spray painting. Turns out PETA had an ax to grind with Clay. They released the ad and a press release, quoting Clay talking trash about cats, like "Cats are Satan." Never mind that Clay keeds. They quoted Clay saying "I ran over a kitten when I was 16." Never mind that they left out the part where Clay said it was an accident that haunts him to this day. (click here to read his quote) Well played, PETA. And I thought I was the pub whore. So here I am -- caught in the middle of crappy tunes and looney tunes... when all I wanted was to whore myself. Of course, I have to stand with Clay, even if they hadn't twisted his quotes. This is about a basic human and animal right that must be preserved... the right to poop, to joke, to keed. Look, I sing "Cats Are C***s" on the CD, but I keed. I don't hate cats. I've even banged a few in my day. Just never let a cat give you a hand job." [end of excerpt] |
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You could have fooled me. Everything you have stated here is pro-Clay and
pretty much think we should ignore his comments. The hateful things he has said about cats is fact but it seems you Aiken fans seem to make things up to defend your idol as you go along. PETA just reminded Aiken that his hurtful comments will not go un-noticed. The problem is his fans can't take the fact their idol is not superhuman or a god. As for you being a Claymate all you have done is defend and make excuses for him here. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "EO" wrote in message om... Fair enough. I didn't come here to make you worship Clay. For goodness sake, I don't even worship the man or ANYONE. For me, it's about free speech and libel. PETA has a track record of making false claims. They have a track record for lots of suspect activites and I came here to correct a misnomer. Clay Aiken's fear of cats has been well documented in radio and tv interviews. Whether you find Clay Aiken's comment about cats (which was facetious as noted in the article by the Rollingstone writer) to be hurtful is obviously very personal and your perogative. You are the "Cat Protector", I get that. But to repeat lies that were issued in PETA's propaganda to somehow justify your emotions is 1)not necessary and 2)baseless. You have every right to feel how you do towards Clay Aiken's comments. I'm not making excuses for Clay Aiken, I'm only repeating the facts. HE is SCARED of CATS. Much ado about nothing. You can try and reduce this to "claymate" talk, whatever that is, and make analogies that are truely reaching, but I'm not a claymate, so it wouldn't get you too far anyways. "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:Fl8wb.11151$Gj2.9565@okepread01... One of the Claymates returns to defend his/her tin god Clay Aiken. He said those hurtful words about cats and now he needs to deal with it and stop behind hiding his legions of fans and his lawyers. Geeze! You Claymates act like you are best friends with him or soemthing. You say that I erroneously assigned my own reason to the article and his words. I don't see how you can possibly blow what he said out of context. Make all the excuses you want for him but Aiken said those hurtful words about cats. I think those that excuse his words and back him no matter what are guilty themselves. It may not be a crime to say what he said but it also doesn't make it right either. In point one it seems that in the eyes of Clay Aiken fans that if you say one word against their idol that you are the enemy. I have seen how fanatical you fans get when worshipping a person. Look at the Michael Jackson case. He has been accused of a child molestation a crime he was accused of before and yet his fans will stand behind him. They don't want to believe that he might be guilty. If he turns out to be, then I am sure his fans will make some excuse for what he says or does. You'll have to learn that your Clay is not superhuman. He is not a god and he certainly is no idol. I think you just don't like the fact that there are people out there who don't agree with what he said. The funnu thing is you Clay fans make up stories such as him hiding in kitchen pantry's, etc just to excuse his referring to cats as evil. Just because Triumph and the SPCA (please note this is the SPCA in his own state not U.S. wide) choose to back him doesn't prove anything. For all we know the SPCA in his state has had brushes with the law regarding how they keep the animals. It seems no matter what is said you'll back Clay but you are not going to change my position because I love cats and thus can think for myself. I don't have to follow anyone like you obviously seem the need to. Clay is no god and he is certainly no idol in my eyes. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "EO" wrote in message om... "Would a person who love cats say that?" ---Wow. I guess I really do have to break it down for you. No one said he LOVES cats. Point #1: Not everyone has to love cats. Your world seems very black and white, either you love them or you're the enemy. Goodness. Just because he has a fear of cats doesn't mean he doesn't want you to have your cat. Clay owns a dog, he is a dog person. That's not a crime. Point #2: You erroneously assign your own reason to something he clearly goes on to explain in the article. "There's nothing worse TO HIM then a housecat" because he is SCARED of cats. Not once did he say it's because he just plain "detests" or "hates" cats. Please point to where it is that he says "I detest cats". The article does however quote Clay saying that he is "afraid" of them. If a friend got a new cat he didn't know about, Clay would just hide in another room. One time there were 3 cats, he hid in the kitchen pantry and people wondered where he was until they heard an "ahem" coming from behind the door. It was quite comical actually. Both Triumph and the SPCA are backing Clay. Because they can actually read. You might want to try that...actually read what's before you rather than putting words into people's mouths. "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:qgVvb.10883$Gj2.8790@okepread01... Once again, a Claymate has to make up a lot of crap to defend their idol. It says he detests cats. In case you have no idea what the word means it is the same as hate. He called a cat "Satan" and says "there is nothing worse than a house cat." Would a person who loves cats say that? Hell no! I guess you Clay fans have proven my point that you'll support Aiken no matter what he says or does. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "EO" wrote in message ... The article doesn't say he hates cats. It says he is AFRAID of cats - "I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death". Context means everything. He has also explained in countless radio and tv interviews that he is "afraid of cats because of the accident". He must have loved his kitten so much to have had the event affect him til this day. In the end though, the point is there's no rule where everyone in the world must LOVE cats. Clay's a dog person. Big deal. BTW, the SPCA (The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) is standing by Clay against PETA as well. PETA is so dumb, they're now turning their attention and going after David Letterman and Jack Hanna over some Niambi animals. ha "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:YpPvb.10851$Gj2.3215@okepread01... That article says he detests cats. That is the same as hating them. I guess we got another Claymate on this board who believes his idol can do no wrong. I guess calling cats "Satan" and saying "there is nothing worse than a house cat" in your eyes means he loves cats right? BTW, nowhere in that article does it say that it was an accident regarding that kitten. Clay needs help and you can tell your fellow Clay fans that in my opinion they are a bit cookoo themselves. Don't the Clay fans have a life? Apparently not if they are camping out to see him. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "EO" wrote in message om... If you actually read the rollingstone issue, it's pretty clear that the interviewer was recounting Clay's idiosyncrancies - rarely swears, many allerfies, is so afraid of water he can't drive across bridges, etc. Fear of cats was among the details. Clay never said he hated cats, he said he was afraid of cats, haunted by them ala Satan because he accidently ran over his own kitten and was traumatized at watching it die. Even PETA's own spokesperson "Triumph the Insult dog" stands by Clay AGAINST PETA. I especially like the part where Triumph calls PETA "cuckoo". From his official website http://www.triumphtheinsultcomicdog.com [excerpt from site] That should be the end of the story. But hold the phone - we're dealing with PETA. Bong - cuckoo! As you see, I made a typically poopy quip in the ad: "Get Neutered - It Didn't Hurt Clay Aiken." It actually wasn't my first choice. I really wanted "Chop 'Em Off - They Didn't Taste That Great Anyway." But PETA was jonesing for the Clay joke. Whatever. Just give me my pub and go back to your spray painting. Turns out PETA had an ax to grind with Clay. They released the ad and a press release, quoting Clay talking trash about cats, like "Cats are Satan." Never mind that Clay keeds. They quoted Clay saying "I ran over a kitten when I was 16." Never mind that they left out the part where Clay said it was an accident that haunts him to this day. (click here to read his quote) Well played, PETA. And I thought I was the pub whore. So here I am -- caught in the middle of crappy tunes and looney tunes... when all I wanted was to whore myself. Of course, I have to stand with Clay, even if they hadn't twisted his quotes. This is about a basic human and animal right that must be preserved... the right to poop, to joke, to keed. Look, I sing "Cats Are C***s" on the CD, but I keed. I don't hate cats. I've even banged a few in my day. Just never let a cat give you a hand job." [end of excerpt] |
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