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Old July 27th 03, 05:31 AM
Rona Yuthasastrakosol
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
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Hard to believe he is sick by looking at him. He was enjoying the sun
today. I still wonder if some of the tummy fat is bloat, but the vet
has checked him out many times.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP



He looks bee-u-teee-ful! And so much happier than in his post-operation
pictures!

BTW, I think I asked about this before, but what kind of netting is that
again? I'm looking more seriously into putting something up for my cat.
Summer is almost over (she won't go out during winter) but I may as well
start looking now!

rona


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Old July 27th 03, 07:33 AM
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
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Hard to believe he is sick by looking at him. He was enjoying the sun
today. I still wonder if some of the tummy fat is bloat, but the vet
has checked him out many times.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP



What a wonderful transformation. I am so happy to see Shadow looking so
much improved. That device he's resting on looks great. Is that a
slantboard scratching post attached?

Great job!

MaryL


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Old July 27th 03, 07:33 AM
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
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Hard to believe he is sick by looking at him. He was enjoying the sun
today. I still wonder if some of the tummy fat is bloat, but the vet
has checked him out many times.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP



What a wonderful transformation. I am so happy to see Shadow looking so
much improved. That device he's resting on looks great. Is that a
slantboard scratching post attached?

Great job!

MaryL


  #14  
Old July 27th 03, 05:12 PM
Elaine Rene
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"Cheryl" a écrit dans le message de news:
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Hard to believe he is sick by looking at him. He was enjoying the sun
today. I still wonder if some of the tummy fat is bloat, but the vet
has checked him out many times.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP



Now thats living for ya!! :-)
He don't look bothered by his tummy either (g)

Elaine


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Old July 27th 03, 05:12 PM
Elaine Rene
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"Cheryl" a écrit dans le message de news:
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Hard to believe he is sick by looking at him. He was enjoying the sun
today. I still wonder if some of the tummy fat is bloat, but the vet
has checked him out many times.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP



Now thats living for ya!! :-)
He don't look bothered by his tummy either (g)

Elaine


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Old July 27th 03, 09:01 PM
Cheryl
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
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Hard to believe he is sick by looking at him. He was enjoying the

sun
today. I still wonder if some of the tummy fat is bloat, but the

vet
has checked him out many times.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP



He looks bee-u-teee-ful! And so much happier than in his

post-operation
pictures!

He's come a long way and been through a lot.

BTW, I think I asked about this before, but what kind of netting is

that
again? I'm looking more seriously into putting something up for my

cat.
Summer is almost over (she won't go out during winter) but I may as

well
start looking now!

rona


I bought a roll of the material from http://www.friendlyfence.com/ff/
They have kits but I just got the roll of 7 1/2' high x 100' long and
attached it to the deck posts with plastic strapping. It's very tough
and hard to cut even with an exacto knife so even if they could chew
through it, it'd probably take longer than their attention span. I
attached it to the ground with 10" garden spikes that have a hook to
hold the material close and tight to the ground. Shadow has a lot of
strength and barrelled through before I put the spikes in, now he
can't budge it. Shamrock tries to dig but I curved the bottom inward
before spiking so he scratches across the mesh along with dirt so gave
up. I did have to cover it; Shamrock has also tried climbing it.
Just heavy duty staples to the deck supports above and the door frame
on the side of the house and strapped the top corners together where
the top and "walls" meet and every few feet along that. I would have
done something like the cat fence-in since my backyard is fenced in
but I don't want to discourage the strays from coming around now that
they are so used to a food source and they come and go over the fence.
Oh, what we will do! LOL


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Old July 27th 03, 09:01 PM
Cheryl
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
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Hard to believe he is sick by looking at him. He was enjoying the

sun
today. I still wonder if some of the tummy fat is bloat, but the

vet
has checked him out many times.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82978103lvhuIP



He looks bee-u-teee-ful! And so much happier than in his

post-operation
pictures!

He's come a long way and been through a lot.

BTW, I think I asked about this before, but what kind of netting is

that
again? I'm looking more seriously into putting something up for my

cat.
Summer is almost over (she won't go out during winter) but I may as

well
start looking now!

rona


I bought a roll of the material from http://www.friendlyfence.com/ff/
They have kits but I just got the roll of 7 1/2' high x 100' long and
attached it to the deck posts with plastic strapping. It's very tough
and hard to cut even with an exacto knife so even if they could chew
through it, it'd probably take longer than their attention span. I
attached it to the ground with 10" garden spikes that have a hook to
hold the material close and tight to the ground. Shadow has a lot of
strength and barrelled through before I put the spikes in, now he
can't budge it. Shamrock tries to dig but I curved the bottom inward
before spiking so he scratches across the mesh along with dirt so gave
up. I did have to cover it; Shamrock has also tried climbing it.
Just heavy duty staples to the deck supports above and the door frame
on the side of the house and strapped the top corners together where
the top and "walls" meet and every few feet along that. I would have
done something like the cat fence-in since my backyard is fenced in
but I don't want to discourage the strays from coming around now that
they are so used to a food source and they come and go over the fence.
Oh, what we will do! LOL


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Old July 27th 03, 09:05 PM
Elaine Rene
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"Arjun Ray" a écrit dans le message de news:
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| What weight do you think is critical for an older, normal to big size
| cat?



Hard to say. I think it has more to do with overall physical condition.
They're likely to lose the musculature of their prime - around the
shoulders, on the haunches, etc. Legs and tail will get thinner. The
fat pad can be misleading - they won't lose that unless they're really
underweight, and maybe not even then.


Yes it makes more sense to observe the overall shape. I think Chaka's
weight always varied from 10 to 12lbs, depending on season, but now he feels
heavier when we pick him up. I know that sounds silly but I think a heavy
cat in his young, very good shape years will still feel light when picked
up. Its true that the legs and tail is a good indication of a cat's health.
I have seen it in the strays that struggle against winter in the village
where I work. They have round bellies but very skinny extremities.

Right now, for example, Scruffy is about a pound under his prime. Some
of his present stuffing could be the result of hydration - he gets 100cc
subQ every day. I expect him to lose at least a pound as his condition
worsens. If he goes under 10 lbs, I'd get very concerned, and probably
consult with the vet about an imminent crash.


That is a stressful not very wide margin. I wish you that he keeps up there
very long. I'm sure Phoenix will help contribute to Scruffy's strength.

Elaine





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Old July 27th 03, 09:05 PM
Elaine Rene
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"Arjun Ray" a écrit dans le message de news:
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| What weight do you think is critical for an older, normal to big size
| cat?



Hard to say. I think it has more to do with overall physical condition.
They're likely to lose the musculature of their prime - around the
shoulders, on the haunches, etc. Legs and tail will get thinner. The
fat pad can be misleading - they won't lose that unless they're really
underweight, and maybe not even then.


Yes it makes more sense to observe the overall shape. I think Chaka's
weight always varied from 10 to 12lbs, depending on season, but now he feels
heavier when we pick him up. I know that sounds silly but I think a heavy
cat in his young, very good shape years will still feel light when picked
up. Its true that the legs and tail is a good indication of a cat's health.
I have seen it in the strays that struggle against winter in the village
where I work. They have round bellies but very skinny extremities.

Right now, for example, Scruffy is about a pound under his prime. Some
of his present stuffing could be the result of hydration - he gets 100cc
subQ every day. I expect him to lose at least a pound as his condition
worsens. If he goes under 10 lbs, I'd get very concerned, and probably
consult with the vet about an imminent crash.


That is a stressful not very wide margin. I wish you that he keeps up there
very long. I'm sure Phoenix will help contribute to Scruffy's strength.

Elaine





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Old July 27th 03, 09:26 PM
Cheryl
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"Arjun Ray" wrote in message
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In , "Cheryl"

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I know Shadow was overweight at some point, but was he muscular

before
that?

Oh yes. He was always muscular (thick neck, thick legs, very solid)
but he gained weight when my Marley got sick with megacolon and he was
eating all of the food from both of their bowls. I really get sad
when I think back on all of the things I missed between both of those
boys. Food gone = everyone eating. Not. Funny how you don't even
notice weight changes when you see them every day. I've never bought
a scale but now that I have 2 new kitties that are young (~2 years,
and ~7 months) I think it's something to seriously consider. Shadow
went from 19lbs early last year to 12lbs at his worst, and back up and
now 20lbs. My fault... when the diarrhea started he was so hungry all
the time. It seemed the food went straight through him without
anything being used. Until the vets and I could find a way to stop
that, I just let him eat when he wanted to thinking it would stave off
malnutrition, and after all that time without eating... Stupid, but
what do I know. He's now doubly at risk for diabetes so he gets
regular blood work. I'm also getting meaner about cutting down and
finally out of the dry food. Nobody gets dry food at night and I only
put out a small amount when I leave for work. I hope that it might
help him drop some of the weight but for real, his life expectancy is
shorter now... not that I plan on letting stuff go with him.. oh hell,
now I'm rambling. sigh I just hope that even if he doesn't get to
run outside much, the workouts on the stairs coming downstairs more
where the entrance to the enclosure is will help some!

In some recent pictures, my Scruffy looks pretty good, but in some
subtle way he isn't the same. He used to be very muscular, solid

all
over, like a decathlete. His tomcat jowls are basically gone, and

he
looks dry and drawn a lot. From close, you can tell he's wasting.

It's hell watching them seemingly waste away.

http://www.nyct.net/~aray/cats/temp/

404... I see that was a temp location. Do you have an updated URL?

But still better than a few months ago. When he crashed in

February, he
was down to 9 lbs 4 oz. As of a few days ago, he's back up to 11

lbs 11
oz.

Well that should make you feel good! Yay Scruffy! I'm not sure about
anyone else but when you help them fight for their life when they are
so ill there is such a bond, almost a parental bond.. where you'll do
just about anything to save them.


 




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