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Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords
Still waiting to see a video of a guy sticking his hand into a
table saw... lol -- "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!border3.nntp.dca.giga news.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.gig anews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.gigane ws.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 21:53:41 -0500 From: "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav,free.usenet,free.spirit References: l0gefc$1qk$1 dont-email.me 6pSdndi6JOtY-rDPnZ2dnUVZ5hOdnZ2d giganews.com l0l8uh$umo$1 dont-email.me rsydnaMEz_pwN7PPnZ2dnUVZ5gadnZ2d giganews.com l0nd6l$80v$2 dont-email.me 8uGdnTquqsr7TLLPnZ2dnUVZ5vydnZ2d giganews.com l0omha$o4h$1 dont-email.me dkpv291cq7qps1ft4mdjiga1ccg2kt90vr 4ax.com l0opoe$4g7$1 dont-email.me 5etv29lubokjng16285jgcrafmg2sqp263 4ax.com VrKdncQr35XQ76_PnZ2dnUVZ5tSdnZ2d giganews.com 1s2539lal699qb2ritroq3ljebn5drk7p8 4ax.com In-Reply-To: 1s2539lal699qb2ritroq3ljebn5drk7p8 4ax.com Subject: Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:53:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Message-ID: l-GdncwxpPiovKjPnZ2dnUVZ5tidnZ2d giganews.com Lines: 30 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-ksRYl+csv3Y7Qp5YKjYwsK4Fx/Bk74xYGYv4Curd6KGvmz0AaKS2bd5PsJwYctPxzWjpAmqQzGXh Z6N!KE2wQu4JYnonRx9cTFA/6thNnvRcUzfcHd7cm8yRApvRzw2WtM603DdfJN6dcvEa+ybpbS 4sSWeE X-Complaints-To: abuse giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2950 Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:11387 free.usenet:4657384 free.spirit:1121 infodex mindspring.com wrote: On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:02:52 -0700, "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net wrote: infodex mindspring.com wrote: On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 03:58:06 +0000 (UTC), John Doe jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote: Full of **** up to its eyebrows... See for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ltFuEKCnM4 Yes. This is an updated version of the device I saw. This one didn;t actually require that the operator touch the saw blade. the one I saw required actual contact with the blade, whqch necessitates stopping the blade in les than one tooth's travel in order to not damage the skin. And this meqns that there was some damage done to the blace by the stopping mechanism. Some? In the video I saw the blade and the whole drive mechanism were toast. The inventor admitted that was a bit of a drawback but argued it was cheaper than losing fingers. Of course. That is the whole reason for the device. Its not something that table saw operators do every day. When one of them does do it, it is fitting that it cost him a lot of money. Saving his fingers is worth a lot of money. |
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Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords
On 9/9/2013 10:41 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
Bill Graham wrote: John Doe wrote: It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. That's just one possible scenario. It probably wouldn't be worse. Another possibility is the outlet sourcing up to 15 amps through your cat's/kitten's mouth without tripping the circuit breaker. The electricity would probably burn some flesh and your cat would run away crying. Also possible is a much lesser shock that would hopefully scare it into stopping before it's injured. There are many possibilities depending on how your cat's teeth/tongue/saliva contact the wires. The BOOM scenario is a distinct possibility though, as you can experience by cutting through an appliance wire. As a kid, you might have touched a 9 V battery to your tongue. If you did the same with a 120 V wire prong (like a snake's tongue), it would probably go BOOM and burn a serious hole in your tongue. I wouldn't want to try that experiment. Shielded cords plus GFI's will prevent that from happening. Read about them he http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ctric/gfi.html Please remember that some circuit interrupters can act very quickly. There is a guy who builds them into his table saws. He can put his hand into the saw blade when it is running, and the break will stop the saw so fast that it doesn't even break his skin. Of course, this requires more than just the GFI. He also has to stop the saw. But he is able to do both, using a GFI to initiate the process..... sawstop, and it doesn't use a gfi. it senses the capacitance of the human body. |
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Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords
chaniarts wrote:
On 9/9/2013 10:41 PM, Bill Graham wrote: Bill Graham wrote: John Doe wrote: It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. That's just one possible scenario. It probably wouldn't be worse. Another possibility is the outlet sourcing up to 15 amps through your cat's/kitten's mouth without tripping the circuit breaker. The electricity would probably burn some flesh and your cat would run away crying. Also possible is a much lesser shock that would hopefully scare it into stopping before it's injured. There are many possibilities depending on how your cat's teeth/tongue/saliva contact the wires. The BOOM scenario is a distinct possibility though, as you can experience by cutting through an appliance wire. As a kid, you might have touched a 9 V battery to your tongue. If you did the same with a 120 V wire prong (like a snake's tongue), it would probably go BOOM and burn a serious hole in your tongue. I wouldn't want to try that experiment. Shielded cords plus GFI's will prevent that from happening. Read about them he http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ctric/gfi.html Please remember that some circuit interrupters can act very quickly. There is a guy who builds them into his table saws. He can put his hand into the saw blade when it is running, and the break will stop the saw so fast that it doesn't even break his skin. Of course, this requires more than just the GFI. He also has to stop the saw. But he is able to do both, using a GFI to initiate the process..... sawstop, and it doesn't use a gfi. it senses the capacitance of the human body. Yes. But the essentiuol thing to remember is thsat the circuitry to stop the saw, or pull the breaker to protect the cat, is completely se3perate from the circuit that interrupts the power based on too much power draw through the main circuit. The breaker is tripped , not by too much po9wer being drawn through it, but by a mechanism that senses the presense of the cat or the operators fingers. And this requires much less power such as a few milliambls of ground current, or the capacitance of the finger that is only close to the saw, and not touching it. My iPad senses my fingers without actually being touched. It would be entirely possible to build a device that interrupted thousands of watts of raw power, based on the close proximity of ones fingers. The GFI does this. It uses a completely seperate circuit to pull the breaker other than the one that normally pulls it. That's why the cat's mouth feels no power at all, and he is protected. |
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Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords
Bill Graham wrote:
chaniarts wrote: On 9/9/2013 10:41 PM, Bill Graham wrote: Bill Graham wrote: John Doe wrote: It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. That's just one possible scenario. It probably wouldn't be worse. Another possibility is the outlet sourcing up to 15 amps through your cat's/kitten's mouth without tripping the circuit breaker. The electricity would probably burn some flesh and your cat would run away crying. Also possible is a much lesser shock that would hopefully scare it into stopping before it's injured. There are many possibilities depending on how your cat's teeth/tongue/saliva contact the wires. The BOOM scenario is a distinct possibility though, as you can experience by cutting through an appliance wire. As a kid, you might have touched a 9 V battery to your tongue. If you did the same with a 120 V wire prong (like a snake's tongue), it would probably go BOOM and burn a serious hole in your tongue. I wouldn't want to try that experiment. Shielded cords plus GFI's will prevent that from happening. Read about them he http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ctric/gfi.html Please remember that some circuit interrupters can act very quickly. There is a guy who builds them into his table saws. He can put his hand into the saw blade when it is running, and the break will stop the saw so fast that it doesn't even break his skin. Of course, this requires more than just the GFI. He also has to stop the saw. But he is able to do both, using a GFI to initiate the process..... sawstop, and it doesn't use a gfi. it senses the capacitance of the human body. Yes. But the essentiuol thing to remember is thsat the circuitry to stop the saw, or pull the breaker to protect the cat, is completely se3perate from the circuit that interrupts the power based on too much power draw through the main circuit. The breaker is tripped , not by too much po9wer being drawn through it, but by a mechanism that senses the presense of the cat or the operators fingers. And this requires much less power such as a few milliambls of ground current, or the capacitance of the finger that is only close to the saw, and not touching it. My iPad senses my fingers without actually being touched. It would be entirely possible to build a device that interrupted thousands of watts of raw power, based on the close proximity of ones fingers. The GFI does this. It uses a completely seperate circuit to pull the breaker other than the one that normally pulls it. That's why the cat's mouth feels no power at all, and he is protected. You could design an app that shuts down Shasta Dam based on the proximity of your finger to the surface of your iPad. And, if you did, you would just be doing, on a very large scale, what the GFI does. It amplifies milliamperes of ground current into a force that trips a much larger circuit breaker. |
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Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords
Perpetual bull****...
-- "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!border3.nntp.dca.giga news.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.gig anews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.gigane ws.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:17:39 -0500 From: "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav References: l0gefc$1qk$1 dont-email.me 6pSdndi6JOtY-rDPnZ2dnUVZ5hOdnZ2d giganews.com l0l8uh$umo$1 dont-email.me l0m0go$m4r$1 dont-email.me DYidnaG6sM9BNrPPnZ2dnUVZ5hGdnZ2d giganews.com Z76dnf9cUOGHLLPPnZ2dnUVZ5vWdnZ2d giganews.com l17rsc$4cj$1 dont-email.me In-Reply-To: l17rsc$4cj$1 dont-email.me Subject: Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:17:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Message-ID: BN2dnexjJOx-SqrPnZ2dnUVZ5sednZ2d giganews.com Lines: 48 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-ajApCo6DTNC9CzRI1Frpc4dWOnxMFj7pYHO/sMZU5K6xQ8YRWZNpoxef3RL6NnGnJZNo7XZhcQbuR0g!QG9ICs w1XV49D/yHnrMut2409KCKkJ5PcBb5SZkDKsZLAg9PfYBV0cx9JENFuxVj xhXyGOeoWzQf X-Complaints-To: abuse giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4256 Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:11396 chaniarts wrote: On 9/9/2013 10:41 PM, Bill Graham wrote: Bill Graham wrote: John Doe wrote: It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. That's just one possible scenario. It probably wouldn't be worse. Another possibility is the outlet sourcing up to 15 amps through your cat's/kitten's mouth without tripping the circuit breaker. The electricity would probably burn some flesh and your cat would run away crying. Also possible is a much lesser shock that would hopefully scare it into stopping before it's injured. There are many possibilities depending on how your cat's teeth/tongue/saliva contact the wires. The BOOM scenario is a distinct possibility though, as you can experience by cutting through an appliance wire. As a kid, you might have touched a 9 V battery to your tongue. If you did the same with a 120 V wire prong (like a snake's tongue), it would probably go BOOM and burn a serious hole in your tongue. I wouldn't want to try that experiment. Shielded cords plus GFI's will prevent that from happening. Read about them he http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ctric/gfi.html Please remember that some circuit interrupters can act very quickly. There is a guy who builds them into his table saws. He can put his hand into the saw blade when it is running, and the break will stop the saw so fast that it doesn't even break his skin. Of course, this requires more than just the GFI. He also has to stop the saw. But he is able to do both, using a GFI to initiate the process..... sawstop, and it doesn't use a gfi. it senses the capacitance of the human body. Yes. But the essentiuol thing to remember is thsat the circuitry to stop the saw, or pull the breaker to protect the cat, is completely se3perate from the circuit that interrupts the power based on too much power draw through the main circuit. The breaker is tripped , not by too much po9wer being drawn through it, but by a mechanism that senses the presense of the cat or the operators fingers. And this requires much less power such as a few milliambls of ground current, or the capacitance of the finger that is only close to the saw, and not touching it. My iPad senses my fingers without actually being touched. It would be entirely possible to build a device that interrupted thousands of watts of raw power, based on the close proximity of ones fingers. The GFI does this. It uses a completely seperate circuit to pull the breaker other than the one that normally pulls it. That's why the cat's mouth feels no power at all, and he is protected. |
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