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"Paul Stamler" wrote in message ... cindys wrote in message ... "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:6la4c.1513$wg.305@okepread01... I do not judge others myself. BTW, I myself am Jewish and when I adopted my cat Isis it was a requirement to have her spayed. I was all for it. I am still for spaying/neutering. I do not see it as mutilation. The torah is not open to individual interpretation, and the fact remains that for a Jew to spay or neuter is a torah transgression. The mitzvos do not apply to non-Jews, and therefore the torah would not find it problematic for a non-Jew to spay or neuter. In other words, the equvalent of a "Shabbos goy"? (For those not familiar with the term, a "Shabbos goy" was a Gentile employed by observant Jews to mind the store or run the factory on the sabbath, when Jews are not permitted to work.) ---------- Not at all. The fact is that all Jews are obligated to observe shabbos, but no one is obligated to adopt an animal. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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"Paul Stamler" wrote in message ... cindys wrote in message ... "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:6la4c.1513$wg.305@okepread01... I do not judge others myself. BTW, I myself am Jewish and when I adopted my cat Isis it was a requirement to have her spayed. I was all for it. I am still for spaying/neutering. I do not see it as mutilation. The torah is not open to individual interpretation, and the fact remains that for a Jew to spay or neuter is a torah transgression. The mitzvos do not apply to non-Jews, and therefore the torah would not find it problematic for a non-Jew to spay or neuter. In other words, the equvalent of a "Shabbos goy"? (For those not familiar with the term, a "Shabbos goy" was a Gentile employed by observant Jews to mind the store or run the factory on the sabbath, when Jews are not permitted to work.) ---------- Not at all. The fact is that all Jews are obligated to observe shabbos, but no one is obligated to adopt an animal. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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On who's rule do you say that? Also, who is to say what is tradition? These
things after all were written by man so I'd hardly call the torah law. Also, what do you consider traditional Jews? Those who are reform are certainly not going to let the Jewish laws limit them. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "cindys" wrote in message ... "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:d_m4c.4658$wg.1583@okepread01... I think the torah is very much open to individual interpretation. You're entitled to your opinion, but traditional Jews don't see it that way. Last time I checked we're all apart of humanity. I don't believe in limits. Why should I be bound by the rules of the torah? You're entitled to your opinion, but traditional Jews don't see it this way. Best regards, ---Cindy S. This is 2004. Not the days of Moses. |
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On who's rule do you say that? Also, who is to say what is tradition? These
things after all were written by man so I'd hardly call the torah law. Also, what do you consider traditional Jews? Those who are reform are certainly not going to let the Jewish laws limit them. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "cindys" wrote in message ... "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:d_m4c.4658$wg.1583@okepread01... I think the torah is very much open to individual interpretation. You're entitled to your opinion, but traditional Jews don't see it that way. Last time I checked we're all apart of humanity. I don't believe in limits. Why should I be bound by the rules of the torah? You're entitled to your opinion, but traditional Jews don't see it this way. Best regards, ---Cindy S. This is 2004. Not the days of Moses. |
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That is not a fact. I certainly don't observe Shabbot.
-- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "cindys" wrote in message ... Not at all. The fact is that all Jews are obligated to observe shabbos, but no one is obligated to adopt an animal. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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That is not a fact. I certainly don't observe Shabbot.
-- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "cindys" wrote in message ... Not at all. The fact is that all Jews are obligated to observe shabbos, but no one is obligated to adopt an animal. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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I agree on this one. A perfect example is Passover. My mom made it a little
bit more fun than reading the books time after time. Also, she added a metaphysical twist which made it go down a lot easier. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Tommy B" wrote in message hlink.net... Does the Torah say anything about anesthetics? Religion, like software seems to need constant updates! |
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I agree on this one. A perfect example is Passover. My mom made it a little
bit more fun than reading the books time after time. Also, she added a metaphysical twist which made it go down a lot easier. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Tommy B" wrote in message hlink.net... Does the Torah say anything about anesthetics? Religion, like software seems to need constant updates! |
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cindys wrote in message ... The torah is not open to individual interpretation, and the fact remains that for a Jew to spay or neuter is a torah transgression. The mitzvos do not apply to non-Jews, and therefore the torah would not find it problematic for a non-Jew to spay or neuter. In other words, the equvalent of a "Shabbos goy"? (For those not familiar with the term, a "Shabbos goy" was a Gentile employed by observant Jews to mind the store or run the factory on the sabbath, when Jews are not permitted to work.) ---------- Not at all. The fact is that all Jews are obligated to observe shabbos, but no one is obligated to adopt an animal. True but irrelevant; no Jew is required to keep the store or factory open on Shabbos either. If an owner chooses to do so, s/he employs a Shabbos goy. Likewise, if s/he adopts a pet, it's one that a Gentile has already neutered. Peace, Paul |
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cindys wrote in message ... The torah is not open to individual interpretation, and the fact remains that for a Jew to spay or neuter is a torah transgression. The mitzvos do not apply to non-Jews, and therefore the torah would not find it problematic for a non-Jew to spay or neuter. In other words, the equvalent of a "Shabbos goy"? (For those not familiar with the term, a "Shabbos goy" was a Gentile employed by observant Jews to mind the store or run the factory on the sabbath, when Jews are not permitted to work.) ---------- Not at all. The fact is that all Jews are obligated to observe shabbos, but no one is obligated to adopt an animal. True but irrelevant; no Jew is required to keep the store or factory open on Shabbos either. If an owner chooses to do so, s/he employs a Shabbos goy. Likewise, if s/he adopts a pet, it's one that a Gentile has already neutered. Peace, Paul |
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