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emergcy care is always done, and then you get the bill, EVERY state has
programs for those who can't aford it, and there are private funds like
hill/burton to assist, its notperfect but its not nearly as bad as others
would have you think, also there is the VA which i am quickly becoming an
expert on and medicare for disabled people and most states have an extremely
reasonable priced sceme for children of working people who don't have
healthcare through their employer, my sister for example paid 55.00 a month
for coverage for her children.

Lee

who is sure healthcare could use improvements but its not a broke as some
would have you think
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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"Bastette" wrote in message
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Medicare is the health care plan we have for retired people. You pay
into it throughout your working life, and then you get your healthcare
paid for once you retire. Sound familiar? I still don't think it's as
comprehensive as NHS, but at least people can get reasonable health
care - which, at retirement age, most of us need.


What happens if you get seriously ill before you retire? as I did.
Our system provides healthcare at any age.
Tweed

medicare eligibility is also available to any disabled person receiving
disability and there is always medicaide, Lee
"Bastette" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:

"Bastette" wrote in message

Medicare is the health care plan we have for retired people. You pay
into it throughout your working life, and then you get your healthcare
paid for once you retire. Sound familiar? I still don't think it's as
comprehensive as NHS, but at least people can get reasonable health
care - which, at retirement age, most of us need.

What happens if you get seriously ill before you retire? as I did.
Our system provides healthcare at any age.

If you have a job that provides health coverage, then you use that.
Usually
the company will pay most of the premiums, and take out a small
contribution
from employees each payday.

Not all jobs provide health insurance, though. If you work part-time or
as a contractor (self-employed and contracted to a company), you probably
can't get coverage from your employer. Some do provide a pro-rated level
of insurance based on hours, for part-time employees. I don't know how
that
works.

Then, of course, a lot of people simply don't have jobs. Unless they're
on disability (hard to get) or welfare (you'd call it "the dole") - which
is *very* hard to get - they're up that proverbial creek without a paddle.

And a lot of times, a person isn't working because they're too ill to
work.
And they have no insurance because they don't have an employer. One of
our system's cruel ironies.

I certainly wasn't trying to say that Medicare is a reasonable substitute
for universal coverage. I was just saying that we do have some benefits
in this country that could be described as socialist, in the sense that
everyone who can do so pays into it, and when you need it, you can use it.
But ours has restrictions - you have to be 65. No, wait - I think it's 66
now. Or 67? I know it's going up year by year, but I don't know what the
retirement age is now. This is the age when you can start collecting
social
security (monthly payments for living expenses which most working people
pay into throughout their working lives - you're going to start getting
something like that next year, right?). Medicare goes along with that.

--
Joyce

Beauty and music seduce us first; later, ashamed of our own
sensuality, we insist on meaning. -- Clive Barker

Correction: Emergency care is *usually* done. Some hospitals refer
patients to another hospital, rather than treating them there. A few months
ago, a woman died in a hospital emergency room because she was ignored by
hospital personnel. She began having seizures and vomited blood. A janitor
was sent to mop up the blood, while she lay on the floor, dying.

--
Joy

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. --
Steven Wright


"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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emergcy care is always done, and then you get the bill, EVERY state has
programs for those who can't aford it, and there are private funds like
hill/burton to assist, its notperfect but its not nearly as bad as others
would have you think, also there is the VA which i am quickly becoming an
expert on and medicare for disabled people and most states have an
extremely reasonable priced sceme for children of working people who don't
have healthcare through their employer, my sister for example paid 55.00 a
month for coverage for her children.

Lee

who is sure healthcare could use improvements but its not a broke as some
would have you think
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

"Bastette" wrote in message
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Medicare is the health care plan we have for retired people. You pay
into it throughout your working life, and then you get your healthcare
paid for once you retire. Sound familiar? I still don't think it's as
comprehensive as NHS, but at least people can get reasonable health
care - which, at retirement age, most of us need.


What happens if you get seriously ill before you retire? as I did.
Our system provides healthcare at any age.
Tweed

Joy wrote:

Correction: Emergency care is *usually* done. Some hospitals refer
patients to another hospital, rather than treating them there. A few months
ago, a woman died in a hospital emergency room because she was ignored by
hospital personnel. She began having seizures and vomited blood. A janitor
was sent to mop up the blood, while she lay on the floor, dying.

Good god! Where was this?

--
Joyce

Hi, this is the Sylvia stress reduction hotline. At the sound of
the beep, repeat after me: "This week, let someone else strive for
excellence." -- Nicole Hollander

Christina Websell wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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Be grateful you live in the UK, where at least you are able to GET
treatment when you need it! Here, it all depends upon what your insurance
company is willing to pay for. (Unless you're a member of Congress, in
which case you're set for life, whether or not you get re-elected.)

Yes I am very grateful for the NHS which I have paid for all my life.
America needs to think whether it needs to go that way.
It's so simple.
Pay a proportion of your wages in. Get unlimited heathcare.

Tweed

All they'd have to do is extend Medicare to cover everyone (with a
greater portion of tax on our wages, of course). But the "for profit"
insurance companies and private corporations have everyone so paranoid
about the idea of "socialized medicine" that I don't see it happening in
my lifetime. What's wrong with "socialism", anyway? Seems to me it's
an extension of the democratic ideal.

Bastette wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:


Is this an optional surgery, or is there any danger of it getting worse
and causing more serious problems? Maybe you can choose not to have it, or
not to have it now, anyway.

In point of fact, ANY surgery is "optional" in terms of you can refuse
to have it. However, when it will prolong your life, you probably want
to choose it.

Christina Websell wrote:
"Bastette" wrote in message
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Medicare is the health care plan we have for retired people. You pay
into it throughout your working life, and then you get your healthcare
paid for once you retire. Sound familiar? I still don't think it's as
comprehensive as NHS, but at least people can get reasonable health
care - which, at retirement age, most of us need.


What happens if you get seriously ill before you retire? as I did.
Our system provides healthcare at any age.
Tweed

You rely on whatever medical insurance you may have - if any. A lot of
employers are no longer offering it, or only if the employee pays for
it. Also, there are many things Medicare does not cover, so we must pay
for a "supplemental" policy, as well, if we don't want to be bankrupted
by a catastrophic illness. (My Blue Cross Blue Shield Senior F
"supplement" cost me about $2500 a year - and the premium will most
likely go up again, the end of the year.)

Bastette wrote:
Joy wrote:

Correction: Emergency care is *usually* done. Some hospitals refer
patients to another hospital, rather than treating them there. A few months
ago, a woman died in a hospital emergency room because she was ignored by
hospital personnel. She began having seizures and vomited blood. A janitor
was sent to mop up the blood, while she lay on the floor, dying.

Good god! Where was this?

I heard about that on the news, too. "For profit" hospitals (which many
are, nowadays) are not required to provide emergency care to the
uninsured. (Or even to Medicare patients - the Mayo Clinic no longer
accepts Medicare here in Arizona, dunno about the original one in
Minnesota.)

"Bastette" wrote in message
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Joy wrote:

Correction: Emergency care is *usually* done. Some hospitals refer
patients to another hospital, rather than treating them there. A few
months
ago, a woman died in a hospital emergency room because she was ignored
by
hospital personnel. She began having seizures and vomited blood. A
janitor
was sent to mop up the blood, while she lay on the floor, dying.

Good god! Where was this?

--
Joyce

At a hospital in Los Angeles County. My daughter, who works for the L.A.
County Dept. of Health, said the excuse given was that the woman frequently
came in and faked various symptoms, hoping to get given drugs. I wonder if
they really thought she faked the vomiting blood.

Joy

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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Bastette wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:


Is this an optional surgery, or is there any danger of it getting worse
and causing more serious problems? Maybe you can choose not to have it,
or
not to have it now, anyway.

In point of fact, ANY surgery is "optional" in terms of you can refuse to
have it. However, when it will prolong your life, you probably want to
choose it.

True, but it's a medical term, just like "minor surgery". No surgery is
minor to the patient.

--
Joy

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. --
Steven Wright