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Poor finger
It must me a few weeks ago now that I told you I asked my friend to help me
clip Kitty FC's claw since she didn't seem to be able to retract them when she perched on me and this was exstremely. ouchie. I also needed her to come to help me trim the spurs of a very old cockerel whose spurs had got so long that they dug in the ground when he walked, A very old boy, at least 10, if not 12. I decided I would catch him and put him in a box half an hour before she came as the garden is muddy so she didn't have to go down there. I caught him in his run by shutting the door into his hut so he couldn't escape. Although I caught him gently he fainted and lost consciousness when I picked him up and put him into the box. He was afraid. He came to and seemed okay in a minute or two. My friend June had come to do the biz with the cock and cat feeties. The cock was done in five minutes and back to his ladies, walking so much better with his smaller spurs. Then it was the turn of KITTY FC to have all her claws clipped. I hoped I wouldn't have to go so far as to put gloves on. I tried without. I picked her up from snoozing in front of the fire and fairly quickly we got about 6 of her back claws done. Then she began to growl. We tried to do the other two claws but she wriggled to get down and threatened to slash. Bear in mind I need someone to help and I'd got her. We did the last two back claws and started on the front, very gently expressing the claws so they could be trimmed. I had only just taken hold of her front paw when she bit me *very* hard on my index finger, very deep and it bled for ages. June told me to wrap her, including her head, in a towel, so I did. It worked like a charm and she got her front claws clipped with no trouble at all, in fact she didn't seem to know it was being done. Kitty had "the hump" for about half an hour, she sulked in the kitchen, but before June went home she was asking her for skritches I am the only one who has an owie from this. Tweed .. , gentlu , |
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Purrs for your finger,
-- Polonca & Soncek "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... It must me a few weeks ago now that I told you I asked my friend to help me clip Kitty FC's claw since she didn't seem to be able to retract them when she perched on me and this was exstremely. ouchie. snip |
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"polonca12000" wrote in message ... Purrs for your finger, -- Polonca & Soncek Thanks, Polonca. My finger now hurts a lot, is very red and seems to have pus in, Thanks, Kitty. It was for her benefit so she could meatloaf on my chest without hurting me! Tweed "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... It must me a few weeks ago now that I told you I asked my friend to help me clip Kitty FC's claw since she didn't seem to be able to retract them when she perched on me and this was exstremely. ouchie. snip |
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Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:06:10 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: "polonca12000" wrote in message ... Purrs for your finger, -- Polonca & Soncek Thanks, Polonca. My finger now hurts a lot, is very red and seems to have pus in, Thanks, Kitty. It was for her benefit so she could meatloaf on my chest without hurting me! Hopefully, you will just have a localized infection that will heal quickly. If you start getting red streaks extending up your arm from your finger, go to a hospital, as this is a sign of blood poisoning (septicemia), and can be life-threatening. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQdI3rjMYPge5L34aEQKJsgCdH/9xPlgMMYW3+YzKbz/VTju44aoAn2qf qt1n1YYYBJMrwGt0mN2B5eun =SyY+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- John F. Eldredge -- PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria |
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Christina Websell wrote:
June told me to wrap her, including her head, in a towel, so I did. It worked like a charm and she got her front claws clipped with no trouble at all, in fact she didn't seem to know it was being done. Kitty had "the hump" for about half an hour, she sulked in the kitchen, but before June went home she was asking her for skritches I am the only one who has an owie from this. Tweed Christine, Is your finger all right? Is your finger still swollen and sore? I realize its been several days since the incident and by now you should know if it is going to be infected. When I was attempting to rescue Lacey she bit me, hard, on the joint of my right hand ring finger. Within 24 hours I was in the hospital on IV antibiotics. The wound bled like crazy and I really thought it would bleed all the bacteria out. I also poured alcohol on it every hour but apparently the bacteria found a nice warm spot in the joint and dug in. My hand swelled up down the back of my hand and around to my palm. The pain was intense! Earlier this year Hobbes bit me, accidentally. I didn't wait 24 hour. I called my doctor and after seeing me I was prescribed amoxycillin. I was thankful I started early because that wound too became swollen but didn't get a chance to spread. Anyhow, purrs for your poor hurting finger and if its still swollen and sore get thyself to the hooman TED right away. Act aggressively when it comes to cat bites. Julie |
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In article , Julie Cook
wrote: Christina Websell wrote: June told me to wrap her, including her head, in a towel, so I did. It worked like a charm and she got her front claws clipped with no trouble at all, in fact she didn't seem to know it was being done. Kitty had "the hump" for about half an hour, she sulked in the kitchen, but before June went home she was asking her for skritches I am the only one who has an owie from this. Tweed Christine, Is your finger all right? Is your finger still swollen and sore? I realize its been several days since the incident and by now you should know if it is going to be infected. When I was attempting to rescue Lacey she bit me, hard, on the joint of my right hand ring finger. Within 24 hours I was in the hospital on IV antibiotics. The wound bled like crazy and I really thought it would bleed all the bacteria out. I also poured alcohol on it every hour but apparently the bacteria found a nice warm spot in the joint and dug in. Unfortunately, alcohol may have made it worse. Most traditional antiseptics can have a role in preparing unbroken skin for surgery, but, applied to an open wound, may kill healthy cells and produce better ground for bacterial growth. There are certain exceptions with specific drugs, but local treatment is generally not useful for a severe instructions -- it will need antibiotics by injection or by mouth. My hand swelled up down the back of my hand and around to my palm. The pain was intense! Earlier this year Hobbes bit me, accidentally. I didn't wait 24 hour. You did absolutely the right thing. Think of how relatively thin the hand is, and how many nerves and muscles can be damaged quickly. Hand injuries tend to be considered emergencies more often by physicians than by patients. I called my doctor and after seeing me I was prescribed amoxycillin. I was thankful I started early because that wound too became swollen but didn't get a chance to spread. Anyhow, purrs for your poor hurting finger and if its still swollen and sore get thyself to the hooman TED right away. Act aggressively when it comes to cat bites. Incidentally, cat bites tend to be more prone to infection than dog bites, but human bites are the worst. People sometimes forget that hitting someone in the mouth and cutting their hand on a tooth, even in contact sports, is a bite. Human bites really need emergency room evaluation. |
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Howard Berkowitz wrote:
In article , Julie Cook wrote: Christina Websell wrote: June told me to wrap her, including her head, in a towel, so I did. It worked like a charm and she got her front claws clipped with no trouble at all, in fact she didn't seem to know it was being done. Kitty had "the hump" for about half an hour, she sulked in the kitchen, but before June went home she was asking her for skritches I am the only one who has an owie from this. Tweed Christine, Is your finger all right? Is your finger still swollen and sore? I realize its been several days since the incident and by now you should know if it is going to be infected. When I was attempting to rescue Lacey she bit me, hard, on the joint of my right hand ring finger. Within 24 hours I was in the hospital on IV antibiotics. The wound bled like crazy and I really thought it would bleed all the bacteria out. I also poured alcohol on it every hour but apparently the bacteria found a nice warm spot in the joint and dug in. Unfortunately, alcohol may have made it worse. Most traditional antiseptics can have a role in preparing unbroken skin for surgery, but, applied to an open wound, may kill healthy cells and produce better ground for bacterial growth. There are certain exceptions with specific drugs, but local treatment is generally not useful for a severe instructions -- it will need antibiotics by injection or by mouth. My hand swelled up down the back of my hand and around to my palm. The pain was intense! Earlier this year Hobbes bit me, accidentally. I didn't wait 24 hour. You did absolutely the right thing. Think of how relatively thin the hand is, and how many nerves and muscles can be damaged quickly. Hand injuries tend to be considered emergencies more often by physicians than by patients. I called my doctor and after seeing me I was prescribed amoxycillin. I was thankful I started early because that wound too became swollen but didn't get a chance to spread. Anyhow, purrs for your poor hurting finger and if its still swollen and sore get thyself to the hooman TED right away. Act aggressively when it comes to cat bites. Incidentally, cat bites tend to be more prone to infection than dog bites, but human bites are the worst. People sometimes forget that hitting someone in the mouth and cutting their hand on a tooth, even in contact sports, is a bite. Human bites really need emergency room evaluation. The doctor explained to me that dogs bite and tear the skin away, leaving a lot of bleeding and air. Cats bite and release making puncture wounds, leaving the bacteria behind. In Lacey's case, she had been outside. We'd watched her eat birds that were stunned by flying into glass windows and drinking water with wormy things floating in it. Her mouth had to have been nasty. I may be more susceptible to the bacteria of a cats mouth but my motto is to take no chances. $15 copay at the doctor office is much cheaper than $200 copay for a hospital stay. Not to mention the cost of my daily medication that I had brought with me, but ohhh nooo, any meds have to be dispensed by the Pharmacy and cost 10 x more than the ones I had brought with me! |
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"John F. Eldredge" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:06:10 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: "polonca12000" wrote in message ... Purrs for your finger, -- Polonca & Soncek Thanks, Polonca. My finger now hurts a lot, is very red and seems to have pus in, Thanks, Kitty. It was for her benefit so she could meatloaf on my chest without hurting me! Hopefully, you will just have a localized infection that will heal quickly. If you start getting red streaks extending up your arm from your finger, go to a hospital, as this is a sign of blood poisoning (septicemia), and can be life-threatening. Thanks everyone in this thread for your concern. The redness and pus has gone, and I'm now left with a very tiny dried up puncture wound that I don't even know I've got unless I touch it and press on it directly. It was worth it, you know, to get Kitty's claws trimmed. She can meatloaf on my chest all she wants now (she loves to do this) and also knead (she loves to do this too) without it being too painful for me to tolerate so I have to insist she gets down. She is one happy Kitty. It was a bit nippy in this room yesterday, it's the one heated by the woodburner and I can't get more wood until January 4th. I have enough for today. If I am cold, I can go into the kitchen where there is a mains gas fire, the cats spend a lot of time luxuriating in front of it. However all the nice things - for me - are in *this* room, the television, the computer etc. I was in my favourite chair watching the TV with a nice woollen patchwork blanket over me - made by my aunt - when Kitty came in from the warm kitchen and said she wanted to get on me. I put the blanket down to my lap and she got on my chest. She lay down with her head near my chin and began to purr. I drew the blanket up again so her head was just poking out and there we sat very comfortable and warm. I could hardly hear the TV over her very loud purring! I wondered if she might like it even more if I covered her completely with the blanket. My whippets used to love being completely covered like this, I wondered how they could breathe, but somehow they could ;-) So I pulled the blanket right up to my chin and covered her up. She didn't like it and stood up. I took it down again to expose her head, expecting she would settle down again. No, she only allows her meowmie to try and smother her once...and went off into the kitchen. Tweed |
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On 2004-12-29, Howard Berkowitz penned:
Unfortunately, alcohol may have made it worse. Most traditional antiseptics can have a role in preparing unbroken skin for surgery, but, applied to an open wound, may kill healthy cells and produce better ground for bacterial growth. There are certain exceptions with specific drugs, but local treatment is generally not useful for a severe instructions -- it will need antibiotics by injection or by mouth. Could you elaborate? I mountain bike, which is the same as saying that I bleed early and often. I've had some really nasty gashes, cuts, and abrasions, and I have treated them with frequent applications of alcohol or hydrogen peroxide to try to get the bits of dirt out. In the interest of full disclosure, I'll admit that I didn't go to the doctor because my husband told me they would scrub the area with a harsh material to get all of the dirt bits out. As much as the wound hurt, I couldn't deal with the idea of having someone scraping at it, so I chose scarring over scrubbing. The scar is kind of cool looking and has a better story than most of my scars, which are the result of pure foolishness or clumsiness. -- monique, who is sometimes allowed to pet Oscar, a grey^H^H^H^Hblue-cream DLH with an attitude! |
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In article , "Monique Y.
Mudama" wrote: On 2004-12-29, Howard Berkowitz penned: Unfortunately, alcohol may have made it worse. Most traditional antiseptics can have a role in preparing unbroken skin for surgery, but, applied to an open wound, may kill healthy cells and produce better ground for bacterial growth. There are certain exceptions with specific drugs, but local treatment is generally not useful for a severe instructions -- it will need antibiotics by injection or by mouth. Could you elaborate? I mountain bike, which is the same as saying that I bleed early and often. I've had some really nasty gashes, cuts, and abrasions, and I have treated them with frequent applications of alcohol or hydrogen peroxide to try to get the bits of dirt out. Alcohol and alcohol-based solutions are apt to kill more healthy tissue than bacteria, and don't have a role in cleaning or treating wounds. One of the considerations is that alcohol is not a fast-acting disinfectant -- it needs at least 10 minutes contact to sterilize most things. Yes, that means that the alcohol swab before an injection isn't sterilizing anything (although it cleans mechanically, and sometimes helps make a vein stand out). Hydrogen peroxide can be useful in cleaning wounds, but the most common thing used in an emergency room will be a stream of water, from a syringe or perhaps an IV bag. In the interest of full disclosure, I'll admit that I didn't go to the doctor because my husband told me they would scrub the area with a harsh material to get all of the dirt bits out. As much as the wound hurt, I couldn't deal with the idea of having someone scraping at it, so I chose scarring over scrubbing. There are times that is necessary, but trauma and plastic surgeons really try to use the minimum possible force. It's better for healing. If a flowing stream of water doesn't do it, they may use more compressed water, such as a stream through a needle or something like a Water-Pik. Beyond that point, they are going to use pain control measures before doing anything more invasive, which can be anywhere from a local anesthetic, to sedation, to more extensive anesthesia, including what might sound like a contradiction in terms -- self-administered anesthesia, where you take breaths of nitrous oxide as you feel you need it. Before using a scrub brush or gauze, they'd try to pick out any distinct foreign bodies, with tweezers to start. They may make tiny incisions to help that, and the sort of blade used is so sharp you may not feel it. Again, they really, really don't want to be harsh, frankly more for healing than for comfort. If you have a thoroughly dirty wound that doesn't yield to this sort of thing, it may then be quite proper to take you to an operating room where they have adequate lights and more specialized equipment, as well as a wider range of choices for pain control -- up to and including general anesthesia. The scar is kind of cool looking and has a better story than most of my scars, which are the result of pure foolishness or clumsiness. Part of the treatment choices depends where it is. Hand surgery, including wound cleaning, is always done with the operator seated and the arm stretched out. There are specialized regional anesthesia techniques to block the whole arm; I've watched surgery, fully conscious, on a nerve in my wrist. To each their own, of course. |
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