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OT. New neighbours again
They came round with a solution.
"We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. |
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OT. New neighbours again
so its been a set up from the beginning, i would take pictures every single
time anything arises, oh do be careful, Lee "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... They came round with a solution. "We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. |
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OT. New neighbours again
"Christina Websell" wrote in
: They came round with a solution. "We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. What a bunch of a@@holes! Screw them and their "solution". Bobble |
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OT. New neighbours again
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote: They came round with a solution. "We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'? I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of removing the existing curb, etc. I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most. If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the local government would probably THANK me. |
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OT. New neighbours again
On 25/12/2011 9:21 AM, trubble wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: They came round with a solution. "We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'? I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of removing the existing curb, etc. I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most. If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the local government would probably THANK me. Dunno about the law there, but a ramp (whether by asphalt, rubber or metal) is in the 'grey' area of whether its technically a driveway or not. And whether its considered under law as a driveway or not is important because, at least here, its illegal to park a car on the street so as it is across or partially across the driveway (in fact, the car has to be 1 metre or more away from either side of the driveway). But its 'debatable' whether blocking access via ramps is legally the same as blocking access via a driveway. Therefore the neighbours may still be able to park in the street across the place she put the ramps, depending on how the law classifies the ramps. With a dropped kerb, the legal status crystal clear: they cannot park across it. Note: Here, if its your driveway into your property, whilst the exact same law applies to your own driveway if you park in the street (ie, you cannot park across or partially across your own driveway) you can still park *in* it (ie, off the road, on your property). As much as it sucks, it seems putting in your own dropped kerb and therefore needing nothing and having nothing to do with the neighbours is the best strategy. Yowie |
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"trubble" wrote in message
... On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: They came round with a solution. "We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'? I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of removing the existing curb, etc. I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most. If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the local government would probably THANK me. The same America where performing any sort of construction on one's property without a permit can get one into trouble with the law? Where the streets are public property, and extending a ramp out into the street is almost certainly illegal? Joy |
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OT. New neighbours again
"Joy" wrote in message
. .. "trubble" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: They came round with a solution. "We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'? I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of removing the existing curb, etc. I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most. If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the local government would probably THANK me. The same America where performing any sort of construction on one's property without a permit can get one into trouble with the law? Where the streets are public property, and extending a ramp out into the street is almost certainly illegal? Joy No, you would not want to build on your own property without a permit. (1) It can cause damages to your property that of your neighbors as well as your person or family if the builder does not have the proper license and insurance. Digging in the wrong area can zap an underground electric grid -- don't we all love blackouts -- or hit a water main which can flood the neighborhood. Your neighbors will be ever so grateful (and YOU have to pay for the repairs). (2) If you build a wall improperly, and later sell the house and the wall collapses on the next tenant and kills his child, you might face civil and/or criminal prosecution; (3) Imagine if I did not ask for a permit but added a shiny new hammered bronze roof to my house, and when the sun hit my roof the entire neighborhood would be blinded by the glare from my new shiny roof. I'm sure you'd then thank those people who require permits and detailed construction plans before allowing you to build on your own properrty. This is also the same America where "easements" exist. We lived in a house where my neighbor was landlocked, and had no driveway out into the street. My deed said that an "easemaent " had been created many years ago, whereby I had to let him use my driveway in order to drive from his driveway onto the street. We always had nice neighbors, and it would not occur to me to block them any more than it would occur to them to build a wall next to my kitchen window. I wonder if the law in your country does not mandate that the neighbors need to allow you to leave your property if their property somehow blocks yours. Certainly in the US if they blocked you, I think you could file charges for illegal detention, interfering with your right to drive to work, etc. Have you consulted a lawyer? Sometimes it's expensive but can solve a lot of problems. Jay |
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OT. New neighbours again
"J J Levin" wrote in message
... "Joy" wrote in message . .. "trubble" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: They came round with a solution. "We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'? I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of removing the existing curb, etc. I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most. If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the local government would probably THANK me. The same America where performing any sort of construction on one's property without a permit can get one into trouble with the law? Where the streets are public property, and extending a ramp out into the street is almost certainly illegal? Joy No, you would not want to build on your own property without a permit. (1) It can cause damages to your property that of your neighbors as well as your person or family if the builder does not have the proper license and insurance. Digging in the wrong area can zap an underground electric grid -- don't we all love blackouts -- or hit a water main which can flood the neighborhood. Your neighbors will be ever so grateful (and YOU have to pay for the repairs). (2) If you build a wall improperly, and later sell the house and the wall collapses on the next tenant and kills his child, you might face civil and/or criminal prosecution; (3) Imagine if I did not ask for a permit but added a shiny new hammered bronze roof to my house, and when the sun hit my roof the entire neighborhood would be blinded by the glare from my new shiny roof. I'm sure you'd then thank those people who require permits and detailed construction plans before allowing you to build on your own properrty. This is also the same America where "easements" exist. We lived in a house where my neighbor was landlocked, and had no driveway out into the street. My deed said that an "easemaent " had been created many years ago, whereby I had to let him use my driveway in order to drive from his driveway onto the street. We always had nice neighbors, and it would not occur to me to block them any more than it would occur to them to build a wall next to my kitchen window. I wonder if the law in your country does not mandate that the neighbors need to allow you to leave your property if their property somehow blocks yours. Certainly in the US if they blocked you, I think you could file charges for illegal detention, interfering with your right to drive to work, etc. Have you consulted a lawyer? Sometimes it's expensive but can solve a lot of problems. Jay My country is the US, and I am not the person with the problem. Joy |
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"Joy" wrote in message ... "J J Levin" wrote in message ... "Joy" wrote in message . .. "trubble" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: They came round with a solution. "We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'? I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of removing the existing curb, etc. I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most. If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the local government would probably THANK me. The same America where performing any sort of construction on one's property without a permit can get one into trouble with the law? Where the streets are public property, and extending a ramp out into the street is almost certainly illegal? Joy No, you would not want to build on your own property without a permit. (1) It can cause damages to your property that of your neighbors as well as your person or family if the builder does not have the proper license and insurance. Digging in the wrong area can zap an underground electric grid -- don't we all love blackouts -- or hit a water main which can flood the neighborhood. Your neighbors will be ever so grateful (and YOU have to pay for the repairs). (2) If you build a wall improperly, and later sell the house and the wall collapses on the next tenant and kills his child, you might face civil and/or criminal prosecution; (3) Imagine if I did not ask for a permit but added a shiny new hammered bronze roof to my house, and when the sun hit my roof the entire neighborhood would be blinded by the glare from my new shiny roof. I'm sure you'd then thank those people who require permits and detailed construction plans before allowing you to build on your own properrty. This is also the same America where "easements" exist. We lived in a house where my neighbor was landlocked, and had no driveway out into the street. My deed said that an "easemaent " had been created many years ago, whereby I had to let him use my driveway in order to drive from his driveway onto the street. We always had nice neighbors, and it would not occur to me to block them any more than it would occur to them to build a wall next to my kitchen window. I wonder if the law in your country does not mandate that the neighbors need to allow you to leave your property if their property somehow blocks yours. Certainly in the US if they blocked you, I think you could file charges for illegal detention, interfering with your right to drive to work, etc. Have you consulted a lawyer? Sometimes it's expensive but can solve a lot of problems. Jay My country is the US, and I am not the person with the problem. Joy I am aware. I'm sorry, I should have made it clear that my suggestion regarding a lawyer was intended for the person with the problem, who apparently does not reside in the US. My comments re the need for building permits was really a defense of the need for permits and proper licenses to build. I once paid $300.00 for a town permit to permit me to upgrade the electrical system in my old house. I was not pleased, it's a lot of money, but the electrician who obtained the permit, and gave me a bill saying it was done according to code, did absolutely the correct thing to protect himself and myself. I apologize for the confusion. Jay |
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OT. New neighbours again
On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:08:20 +1100, Yowie
wrote: On 25/12/2011 9:21 AM, trubble wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: They came round with a solution. "We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and they gave me something to sign. I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let a solicitor see this. I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever block me in. Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'? I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of removing the existing curb, etc. I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most. If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the local government would probably THANK me. Dunno about the law there, but a ramp (whether by asphalt, rubber or metal) is in the 'grey' area of whether its technically a driveway or not. And whether its considered under law as a driveway or not is important because, at least here, its illegal to park a car on the street so as it is across or partially across the driveway (in fact, the car has to be 1 metre or more away from either side of the driveway). But its 'debatable' whether blocking access via ramps is legally the same as blocking access via a driveway. Yes, well block *MY* ramp, at *YOUR* peril. End of problem. Therefore the neighbours may still be able to park in the street across the place she put the ramps, depending on how the law classifies the ramps. With a dropped kerb, the legal status crystal clear: they cannot park across it. Note: Here, if its your driveway into your property, whilst the exact same law applies to your own driveway if you park in the street (ie, you cannot park across or partially across your own driveway) you can still park *in* it (ie, off the road, on your property). As much as it sucks, it seems putting in your own dropped kerb and therefore needing nothing and having nothing to do with the neighbours is the best strategy. Yowie I can tell you it would be a cold day in hell, before a nasty neighbor cost me thousands of (dollars OR pounds) without the most severe of repercussions. Often, when dealing with assholes, it is best to settle things outside of the courts, where logic and RIGHT prevails, and not who has the most expensive lawyer...or solicitor, as you call them. Assholes need to be dealt with in a manner that they deserve. |
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