AARRGGHHHH!

CatNipped wrote:

&)*()(*)#$%@#$*$ homeowners association!!!!
We received a registered letter today from a lawyer informing us that
we are in violation of deed restrictions by having a (beautiful) 8
foot high wooden fence (that we've had for over a year and have heard
not one peep from the HOA about before the letter from the lawyer).
We're told we have until July 31 to either remove the fence or be
sued (and fined $200 a day for each day of being in violation plus
court costs and lawyers fees).

Are you SURE it's the HOA, not a city ordinance?
I've been told that Fire Depts everywhere have objections to solid fences
more that 6' tall; not sure why. Not even sure that is true.


Moses

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
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Who the *HELL* is it hurting because we have a tall fence???!! Nosy
neighbors who want to see me skinny dipping in the Jacuzzi (I
would think people would pay *NOT* to see that)!!!

It was probably one of your neighbors who turned you in. Kind of
like a neighbor we had behind us who would watch out the window,
hoping I think that the kids' ball or balsa airplane would go over
her fence so she could have something to gripe about.

Probably. I don't understand people like that. DH and I are pretty
much hermits (computer geeks who seldom stick our noses out of the
front door), so it isn't that we've even interacted with neighbors
enough to **** anyone off!

Unless that's what ****ed them off! (Some neighbors aren't
happy unless they know all their neighbors' business.)

This story is just one more reason *purr purr* I am EVER so happy *little
dance* that I no longer *meeerrowwllpurp* have that fooking millstone house
off from around my neck! *puuurrrrrrrrrrr*
*Apartments Forever!*
--
Once a suicide bomber, always a suicide bomber

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CatNipped wrote:


Who the *HELL* is it hurting because we have a tall fence???!! Nosy
neighbors who want to see me skinny dipping in the Jacuzzi (I would think
people would pay *NOT* to see that)!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped

It was probably one of your neighbors who turned you in. Kind of like a
neighbor we had behind us who would watch out the window, hoping I
think that the kids' ball or balsa airplane would go over her fence so
she could have something to gripe about.

Sherry


I heard some busy bodies complained about some neighbours
with messy rooms. So we got a notice that areas that are visible
from the outside have to be kept tidy. I am glad I live in a corner
unit in the upper floor that nobody can see into any of my rooms.
Still I keep the blinds in Rusty's room drawn. You can't tell a
cat to tidy his room.

Winnie

It was probably one of your neighbors who turned you in. Kind of like a
neighbor we had behind us who would watch out the window, hoping I
think that the kids' ball or balsa airplane would go over her fence so
she could have something to gripe about.


here is a winner for you.

I used to fly gliders out of Wingham airport. We used a winch launch
to get them airborne (so we did not have a tow plane flying around.) A
lady next door to the airport used to complain to the town council
about "all the engine noise" from "those yellow airplanes circling over
my house all weekend."

We were gliders.

We didn't HAVE engines.

Nobody on the ground could hear us.

--Fil

CatNipped wrote:
&)*()(*)#$%@#$*$ homeowners association!!!!

From what I've heard from colleagues who have them, I agree!

Who the *HELL* is it hurting because we have a tall fence???!! Nosy
neighbors who want to see me skinny dipping in the Jacuzzi (I would think
people would pay *NOT* to see that)!!!

It's just a busy buddy who has nothing better to do with their time. It
will come back to them, it always does.

Victor, who happily does not have a HOA.

--
Victor M. Martinez
Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)
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"Rrb" wrote in message
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I know it's too late now as the damage is done by now but I would check
with your cities building department to see if any codes govern the
height of fence required around a pool or jacuzzi. Maybe check the state
as well.

Unfortunately, that probably won't carry much weight.

There is a lady in Leawood, KS who built a 6 foot fence around her pool so
the neighbor kids wouldn't be able to climb the fence and get in her pool
and drown. Note: The lady was the original owner of the house and had the
pool built long before the kids moved into the neighborhood. She had gone
to the HOA last Nov and had an agreement that she could build the fence, the
city codes state the fence had to be around the perimeter of the pool and
there was no restriction on the height. Someone at the HOA, got a wild hair
and determined that the fence had to be 4 foot high because that is what the
HOA covenants and agreements spelled out for a hot tub. She was eventually
taken to court and the court determined that the HOA rules superceded the
city ordinances. She asked the HOA to cover the liability on any kids that
drowned in her pool since she had to lower the fence. The HOA refused. I'm
not sure what the lady is going to do about the fence yet, the case was in
the Johnson County Sun.

Good luck Catnipped.

Diane

"Duke of URL" wrote in message
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CatNipped wrote:

&)*()(*)#$%@#$*$ homeowners association!!!!
We received a registered letter today from a lawyer informing us that
we are in violation of deed restrictions by having a (beautiful) 8
foot high wooden fence (that we've had for over a year and have heard
not one peep from the HOA about before the letter from the lawyer).
We're told we have until July 31 to either remove the fence or be
sued (and fined $200 a day for each day of being in violation plus
court costs and lawyers fees).

Are you SURE it's the HOA, not a city ordinance?
I've been told that Fire Depts everywhere have objections to solid fences
more that 6' tall; not sure why. Not even sure that is true.

Yep - they cited the page and paragraph number from the deed restrictions
document.

Hugs,

CatNipped

Moses

"Victor Martinez" wrote in message
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CatNipped wrote:
&)*()(*)#$%@#$*$ homeowners association!!!!

From what I've heard from colleagues who have them, I agree!

Who the *HELL* is it hurting because we have a tall fence???!! Nosy
neighbors who want to see me skinny dipping in the Jacuzzi (I would
think
people would pay *NOT* to see that)!!!

It's just a busy buddy who has nothing better to do with their time. It
will come back to them, it always does.

Victor, who happily does not have a HOA.

Yeah. The more I think about it the angrier I get - we ruined a perfectly
beautiful, *expensive*, new fence just because somebody got a wild hair up
their arse!

Hugs,

CatNipped

--
Victor M. Martinez
Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
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jmcquown wrote:

Who the *HELL* is it hurting because we have a tall fence???!!
Nosy neighbors who want to see me skinny dipping in the Jacuzzi (I
would think people would pay *NOT* to see that)!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped


This is why I hate homeowners associations. I know the pros and
cons; maybe you don't want a purple house next door to you. But a
couple of extra feet higher on a fence doesn't hurt a soul. Keep
that letter; you might need it in the future.

Jill


I agree. There *are* pros and cons, but some of them just get too
snooty to be real. There is one here that says you can't have a
pickup truck, unless it is in the garage at all times. Imagine! That
means any truck! Some of those trucks cost well over $30,000 and are
pretty dang sharp looking. That's way too snobby for me.
Sherry

What about the ones that won't allow you to hang laundry in
your own back yard? Sure, most homeowners nowadays have
their own washer and dryer, but a lot of people prefer to
hang stuff outside to dry when the weather cooperates (also
it saves a lot of energy).

I agree! If I had room for a clothesline, it smells so much more fresh and
also saves energy. But no, it doesn't "look nice". Grrrrr.

Jill

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CatNipped wrote:

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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On 2005-07-23, CatNipped penned:

&)*()(*)#$%@#$*$ homeowners association!!!!

We received a registered letter today from a lawyer informing us
that we are in violation of deed restrictions by having a
(beautiful) 8 foot high wooden fence (that we've had for over a
year and have heard not one peep from the HOA about before the
letter
from the lawyer). We're told we have until July 31 to either
remove the fence or be sued (and fined $200 a day for each day of
being in violation plus court costs and lawyers fees).

I'm so sorry to hear this. But ... having an HOA, wouldn't you
typically get permission and check the rules before starting on a
project like that?


I wouldn't think you'd have to get permissions for a wooden fence
when 2 out of 3 homes in the subdivision have one (and I've even
see 8 foot ones, but they must be friends of the people on he HOA)!

Only HOA I ever had dealings with was when I owned a
condo/townhouse, briefly. I had no idea they had such
things where you own the actual lot on which your house
stands! In the case of a condo, it made sense, since the
association was responsible for maintaining the common areas
(roof, publc walkways, exterior landscaping, swimming pool,
etc.) for which we paid our monthly dues. However,
membership was part of the terms for purchasing the condo,
and any restrictions on structural changes we might make
were clearly spelled out in the purchase agreement.

The subdivision does also - there's a "community" pool and tennis
court at the front of the subdivision (you need a picture ID to use
them).


There was one case of an elderly woman (like 70 years old or so) here
in Houston whose HOA *SOLD HER HOUSE FOR $100* because she owed $600
in HOA fines. She finally got the house back again, but it took her
10 years of legal battles and the people of Houston chipping in to
buy her house back for her (now you know why we immediately went
outside to cut down our fence!!).

Hugs,

CatNipped

That's illegal unless the hold the note and she was deliquint. They can't
sell her house. You don't sign your house over to a homeowners association.
You pay dues but that's about it. Sorry, but that's just not a credible
story.

Jill