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Old February 21st 05, 04:44 AM
Krista
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CatNipped wrote:


I am flabergasted! I have to admit, I was taken in hook, line, and

sinker!
If she is doing this, then she deserves all the get well cards that

were
sent because someone who does that just to garner attention is indeed

sick!


Oh my. What a very odd thing to do. Well, purrs to her anyway, that
whatever it is that's wrong in her life can be put right.

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Krista

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Old February 22nd 05, 03:20 AM
Howard Berkowitz
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In article . net,
Tanada wrote:

Howard Berkowitz wrote:


When I first read the description of the condition, my initial reaction
was that it sounded like something with very little chance of survival.
Then, I thought about some specific recent advances in brain cancer
treatment, that have greatly improved the odds. People are now
symptom-free from things that would have been a prompt death sentence
3-5 years ago.



I was surprised that they got the results from the biopsy so quickly,
but assumed that they might have been closer to the pathologist than Rob
was.


Perhaps it would be useful to mention a bit about how pathological exams
are done, since I've had to sit on my hands waiting for cat pathology.
In Clifford (RB)'s case, the specimens had to be sent to Boston for a
subspecialist, but definitive tissue examination just takes time to
prepare the specimen. It's a lot faster today, with various automated
equipment, when I first did a manual preparation 40-some years ago, when
it took a week to get the specimen to the microscope, but even with the
latest methods, it still takes the better part of a day, and often 24-48
hours.

The fundamental problem is that to examine a tissue sample, it has to be
sliced so thinly that it's a layer of only a few cells, through which
light can transmit in a microscope. From the body, tissue is too soft to
be sliced with that precision, so it has to be made rigid in some way.
(You don't have this problem with blood smears, Pap smears, and the
like, since the specimen is essentially liquid and spread onto a slide).

One method that is used to get a preliminary diagnosis, while surgery is
in progress, is to fast-freeze the tissue with liquid nitrogen or dry
ice, and then slice the frozen block. There is likely to be chemical
processing before and after this step -- the "after" is especially
important, because to make sense under the microscope, usually two or
more dyes are applied, which stain different parts of the cell different
colors. The problem with "frozen sections" is that the freezing can
deform the shape of the cells. The good news is that it can get a sample
under the microscope in minutes, and the surgeon can get an answer on
what to do while the patient is still on the table.

The more definitive method, which has gotten faster with automated
equipment, is based on getting wax into and around the cells. Since wax
won't mix with the normal water in cells, you have to replace the water
with alcohol, and then the alcohol with a solvent that dissolves wax
(usually xylene). With the old manual methods, you had to go slowly from
10% to 20% to 30%, etc., dilutions of alcohol, to avoid distorting the
cells. New methods use a specialized microwave oven to help the
replacement.

After you get the xylene or other solvent into the cells, you now put it
into liquid wax. Preservatives have to have been applied so the wax
doesn't cook the tissue. When the wax hardens, the tissue is sliced --
the blades used are often glass or diamond, because steel is hard to
make sharp enough.

Now you have waxy slices that need to be stained. The stains are water
soluble, so you reverse the process -- use a wax solvent to get out the
wax, replace the wax solvent with alcohol, replace the alcohol with
water, stain the tissue, attach it to the slide, and then put it under
the microscope.

So, even with the pathologist right there, it takes a fair bit of time
to get the specimen ready. A good hospital has the schedule worked out
so the samples get to the pathologist just when they are ready to read
them.
 




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